Obama says no to marijuana tax driven recovery

Obama's decision on Marijuana Tax is a welcome display of common sense.

Obama displayed a lot of common sense in saying no to the marijuana tax proposal.There is a lot more at stake here than the tax itself, America will need to change first.

America's enormous appetite for marijuana and other illicit drugs like cocaine and speed continue unabated.Taxing marijuana would bring in enough dollars to buy a small country or two!

The American Government estimates that 20 billion dollars will be spent on marijuana this year. Australians also spend a lot on illicit drugs according to statistics it is around 6 billion for elicit drugs and a whopping 56 billion a year including tobacco and alcohol. We only have a 23 million population, so that's probably only being spent by 5 or 6 million people at most.

I feel sure that the new incumbents under the guidance of Barry the wonder-boy Obama will have had mixed feelings about losing the 20 billions in tax they could be collecting, but the admin knows it wont fly.


Political smarts.

The truth is that even Obama could not get this one up.

The attitude of middle America is to take a moral stance on illicit drugs. No matter how logical it may seem to tax and control drugs, taxing marijuana never stood a chance with the electorate.

Obama will not to try to get it up. Why lose popularity over an idea that would not be accepted by congress, the senate or the American people.

The above video shows clearly what lengths an American interviewer will go to avoid any self evident truth or statistics even when they come from the police. He is reflecting the attitude of many Americans.

If he had sided with the pro lobbyist he would lose his job.The interesting thing is that he makes one Freudian slip after another and the interview will do more for the lobbyist than a hundred protests rallies! It is also funny as hell at least to me sitting in Australia!

Common sense can prevail.

Obama has admitted that he smoked marijuana (and inhaled for dog's sake!) He has not expressed the outrage that we heard from wowsers like George Bush. Obama has focused more on harm management and other less extreme views.

You could say he has kept under the radar for now.

Addressing the issue of drugs and taxes.

I feel sure that Obama knows that America cannot afford to go on with the war against drugs.He will also know that prohibition creates markets.

The problem with legalising and taxing popular drugs is that you will be taxing a very cheap commodity the moment it is legal and controlled it will of course create another market if it is not kept very cheap. So much for the 20 billion in turnover!

Tax on your marijuana too high? Black market it. Quality not good enough? grow your own, the cops will never smell it amongst the suburban haze!

Once it is legal what next? Coke? crack? Speed? Heroin?

Imagine all the cops, judges, politicians, news anchors, stockbrokers now open users who will all dutifully go outside their homes to smoke their government sanctioned weed or have a quick sniff on the bus.

No this is not the way to solve the drug problem. Decent education and income goes a lot further than taxing drugs to solve drug problems.The middle class user has nothing to fear. They have all the money, contacts and never need to sell drugs, they use them quietly at home.

Those of us who don't have to feed a dozen people with no money are not in a position to cast aspersions on those who are forced to sell drugs to feed their kids and keep a roof over their heads.

It is these underprivileged that are constantly being locked up. They are America's forgotten poor, who's lives are used as entertainment on TV shows like "Bad Boys" which is the most disgusting public display of human rights abuse I have ever seen! How can any humane being watch that shit?.

What will America do about it's drug problems?


The only positive action America can take is to change the public perception of drug use. America must get away from the stereotypical "reefer madness" like view still expressed on today's news. A changed in attitude away from the non worldly views expressed by the very loud and squeaky religious. The religious extremists force "morality" on drug issues and stifle all arguments. No one in America wins an argument started with "I don't believe your opinion just because you think your god believe it is right.

It's like talking to a bloody jingo box! The very religious never hear anything.They ignore your argument. If they hear it at all, it is only because they are listening while scrambling around looking for a quote from the book they think steers their life. The then proceed to abuse you mentally with some stupid religious passage left to them by their invisible friend, who apparently tortures all who do not obey him, or at least their version of him.

Get this crud off centre stage America! America is up against it with getting any progress past these dangerously self assured fanatics, and it will take a deft hand at the helm to steer Americas future.Maybe Obama can do it?

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Shalini Kagal 7 years ago from India

Can he earnesthub? He seems to be veering to the safe and trodden path like most leaders all over the world! Going against backbone beliefs is nigh impossible in most countries wouldn't you say?

ColdWarBaby 7 years ago

The Gordian knot.

The insanity of making an innocuous intoxicant like Cannabis illegal is bound up in so many different conflicting interests that it would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic.

To mention a drug like heroin on the same page with pot is ludicrous. The parallels between heroin and alcohol are much closer and booze is easily as dangerous as smack.

Pot is not a gateway drug. It does not lead inevitably to addictions and a life of crime.

You may rest assured that money is at the root of the prohibition of marijuana.

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

I fear you are right, I only said maybe! I certainly hope that he can, as CWB will attest we are probably screwed. I just hope, and mainly I hope that I am wrong about the treasury.

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goldentoad 7 years ago from Free and running....

drug companies are against legalization of pot and they get away with murder, literally, and they have major pull in washington. they can try to stop me, but I will keep on smokin.

jjrubio 7 years ago

good for you Toad.....reefer is from the earth...God put this here for one reason or another! =) Its all ONE LOVE...the Drug Companies as well as the Tobacco industry are big timers when it comes to pull in the Govt.....its a twisted game!

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goldentoad 7 years ago from Free and running....

I've considered moving up to NoCal to start my own farm, start off with a plant or two, maybe three, and then kick it, I can survive and dedicate more time to writing.

jjrubio 7 years ago

trust me the cops can see that stuff growing from the darn helicopters.. I watched a show about it and it focused on Calaveras County in Nor Cal....they can see it even in the dark. The marijuana plant has a distinctive color....you know that! =)

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goldentoad 7 years ago from Free and running....

its legal in mendocino county up to like 25 plants

jjrubio 7 years ago

don't you need a medicinal license or something???

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goldentoad 7 years ago from Free and running....

I'm not sure on the specifics, but I had a guy who worked with me and left up there about a month ago, said it was all good.

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

CWB I do not recall comparing drugs, but as you mention it I will give you my view.

Marijuana is probably not as bad for you as milk.Alcohol is worse by far than heroin especially for the unfortunate ones born with the alcoholic button turned ON. Crack cocaine could have a place in the dying process performing better than smack, but to use it otherwise is far too dangerous in light of it's nasty chemical feedback. Cigarettes are more addictive than any of the other drugs as it quickly forms physical habits and attaches itself to taking a break or a meal or coffee, and the popes a weid little man from another time.I have never subscribed to marijuana being a gateway drug. The only gateways to hard drugs is the human condition, and I will now quote myself "The human condition is no condition to be in"

Humans use prescription and/or so called elicit or recreational drugs because they feel hollow in their daily lives. Whenever they accidentally behold the lack of humanity in the world they lose a little bit more of their spirit.This is bound to deplete vital brain chemical function.People take drugs to dull the pain of living in a world full of elected lunatics who make life on earth a living hell for those who would try to live a real life that has meaning and doesn't just over feed some already overfed bastard. BTW You may enjoy some of this site (It is huge) the address is http://biopsychiatry.com/ it is connected to a couple of major sites in Brighton UK and is a part of BLTC website. You may be fascinated by some really good well researched data on drugs. David Pearce runs this site and I have known him for ten years, he is very bright not unlike yourself in outlook and easy to talk to.

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Amanda Severn 7 years ago from UK

This is one game that Obama can surely never win, and he is wise not to pursue it. I find it extraordinary that the antipathy towards Cannabis in the USA even extends to banning all forms of hemp farming, including hemp for rope, and hemp for garment fabric. Pam Grundy wrote a really good hub about the hemp ban a while ago:


In the last few years I have seen three people that I know well suffer from the effects of long term alcohol misuse. One of them was to die aged only 32, and the other two had long spells of hospitalisation, and now have to live lives restricted by the damage that alcohol has wreaked on their bodies. Alcohol is far worse than cannabis IMO, but it will never be banned because of the revenue it generates, and because it is so well tolerated and widely used in society. Personally I'd like to see Cannabis legalised in the States. The revenue generated would pay for at least one of these banking bailouts!

ColdWarBaby 7 years ago

Sorry. I just tend to get incensed when I see pot on the same page with that other stuff. It's a common ploy with the haters. I really didn't assume you were comparing them and apologize if that seemed implied.

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thank you Amanda, revenue from drugs must be enormous. The linking of hemp with marijuana must be the dumbest thinking I have seen on drugs.

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

That's ok CWB, I think in retro I could have worded it better.

ColdWarBaby 7 years ago

It's all good, as they say.

Interesting bit of contemporary vernacular that. A companion piece of "everything is everything" I suppose.

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Dolores Monet 7 years ago from East Coast, United States

The only reasn that pot is a gateway drug is that you consort with criminals to obtain it. Why not let folks grow it themselves. You can grow deadly poison in your yard and no one cares.

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thanks CWB.

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Dolores you are right about that. Your friendly dealer has to run the gamut without getting caught, which will mean that he is on the wrong side of the law as it stands in most places.

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MeeK 7 years ago from Norman, OK

I think you've got some great points, but there is a huge underlying conspirator, as always, our frightening media machine here in the states. I was sickened at how they told us what our issues were going to be during our last few Presidential elections. And at this point I don't think we can really be blamed for what's going on out at center stage. We've now got generations behind and ahead of us that are so media savvy now, it's all a big distraction. Anyone can be a pundit, and everything's a commercial. I have to say I'm just thankful for hubpages. Thanks for the food for thought. Personally, I'm hoping the President pursues decriminalization of hemp at VERY least. It's rediculously renewable.

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

I am with you on that. I hope Obama can shake off the advice coming out of treasury and handle the crap from the press.

Nate 7 years ago

I hate it when people try to argue about a topic they know absolutely nothing about. Obviously the person who wrote this article has never smoked weed in his life and hasn't been educated on the actual effects and health issues from a reliable source. Both cigarettes and alcohol are worse for you but yet the government taxes them and sells them to consumers so they can slowly kill themselves.

If people have the right to use a substance that is harmful and kills millions of people, they should also have the right to use one that's not. If you're going to blabber on about something make sure next time you actually know what you're talking about next time.

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Nate, you obviously did not even read the article properly!

As to my knowledge and understanding of marijuana, you obviously have not understood the problem is not with Marijuana, it is with politics.

THC Delta 9, the active constituant of marijuana is fairly harmless, has many medical benefits and certainly does not caused millions of deaths, as tobacco does.

Have never used it? I doubt you could match my useage!

I have smoked marijuana for 35 years due to cns pain from a spinal injury. If I had taken prescription pain killers I would have been dead 20 years ago. That is my doctors opinion!

I gather you are pro legalization, as I am, but this is not the time to do so without first reforming the entire outlook of America to drugs, and repealing other current drug laws.

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Randy Godwin 7 years ago from Southern Georgia

Great hub earnest, as a glaucoma patient I can attest to the useful benefits of the plant. The chemical medicines prescribed for me are very expensive, even with insurance. Glaucoma blinded several of my uncles and is hereditary on my fathers side. They lived many years without sight which could have been prevented if pot had been legal.

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Hi Randy!

It is illegal here too, but I ignore it, as I have no other options. Marijuana is great for preventing Glaucoma too isn't it? Needless to say I do not have Glaucoma no doubt due to my Marijuana use as Glaucoma runs in my family too!

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SweetiePie 7 years ago from Southern California, USA

Have you been following the story of the Ganja Queen as of late? I do feel sorry for that Australian girl who was wrongly accused of smuggling pot into Indonesia, and it would make me hesitant to visit that country considering how they have treated her. Twenty plus years of her life wasted just because some one set her up. I feel bad for her, I do.

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

I do too! There is a split in opinion here still as to her guilt, but it was all so unlikely, I thought it highly unlickely. I do hope she is returned to Australia soon for psychiatric care. There may be a chance of that happening I believe! :)

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brandonfan 7 years ago from Mid West

Oh yeah Earnest, Our government makes WAY too much off of marijuana being illegal. Not only in our court systems, but by holding off the manufacturing of hemp as well. I have to admit though, that I would think that if anyone was going to be more lenient as far as these laws were concerned, it would be Obama. Thanks for the info!

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earnestshub 7 years ago from Melbourne Australia Author

Thanks for the nice positive comment Brandonfan, America will be more moderate soon I hope, and abolish the criminalization aspect at least. I agree, America has a lot better chance with Obama.

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