On Suicide and Hunter S. Thompson

      I think that if one feels necessary to commit suicide then, in some cases that decision should be accepted and/or allowed. ‘Attempted suicide’ has been removed from the Criminal Code in Canada in 1972 and it is only regarded as a ‘misdemeanor’ in a few of the states in the U.S. I think it would be senseless to try to punish someone who is trying to kill themselves and giving me a ticket when I am dead will also not solve much.

      I think ‘suicide’ could be a decent way to go if you plan it as a one-way-trip to some place you need to go to and you do it in a responsible manner in relation to whom and what you leave behind.

                     “Hunter S. Thompson's body was found in a chair in the kitchen

                     in front of his typewriter with the word "counselor" typed in the

                     center of the page, according to sheriff's reports.” AP March 2nd, 2005

      I was saddened when I learned that he committed suicide because I think he was one of the greatest American writers. His style was truly unique. His courage and persistence were truly admirable. As a journalist he was always chasing a story and even if he was going in the wrong direction, he never stopped until he got a story! It did not matter if the story he found was a different one than the one his publishers wanted. In the end his story got printed. Rolling Stone Magazine had him on the payroll for decades and Random House never failed to publish his books, no matter how weird or strange they were because he was a great writer and a fantastic journalist!

      So what if he decided to call it quits? The man published more books and articles than most people could not even imagine. I always laugh when I remember some of the things he wrote about Richard Nixon. His descriptions are priceless: “He was the real thing--a political monster straight out of Grendel and a very dangerous enemy. He could shake your hand and stab you in the back at the same time.” I can hear his voice …

      I laughed to tears throughout many of his books and throughout many boring high-school courses. He kept me company in class; that way I didn’t skip at least although, spontaneous outbursts of laughter from the back of the class were never appreciated much by most of my dull teachers. I never met the man but I do feel like I know him because I have probably read close to everything that he published and I have read a few biographies written about him as well. His writing is very personal and to see him in recorded interviews is always entertaining! What a monster he was, amazing!

      Thus, if he decided to take his own life, he had all the rights to do it. I am sure he did as much as he wanted to do and more. He lived a fulfilling life and I am surprised he actually made it that far considering his life-style.

      I think suicide in some cases is quite an understandable action. I would not want to rot away in some hospital bed waiting to be freed of this body. If one is not able to do much except count the minutes to the finish line … that is no life to live in my opinion. Or if you are just personally sick of Life (which in my mind is not possible) and want nothing of it then, do as You wish.

      On the other hand, I had a close relative take his life in an ignorant way and that I do not condone. I have had friends take their life because of depression and despair; that I think is tragic! Such people need help and support.

      Therefore, each suicide and/or attempted suicide should be interpreted in a different manner, in respect to each individual circumstance. For some people it just may be the next logical step to take. If you are done here then, you are done here.

                     “If it’s my time to leave,

                     I will leave in victory …” “Tears of blood” Mexicano 777


      “No More Games. No More Bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun – for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age. Relax – This won’t hurt.” – Hunter’s suicide note (published in Rolling Stone magazine).

      Thank you for everything Hunter! Much love.

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Micky Dee 5 years ago

Incredibly beautiful! Thank you for doing this and thanks for loving Hunter Thompson.

I've felt like leaving planet Earth many times. I'd like to see how "this" ends. But I recently had an operation. Afterward, if I had to live in that pain for a year or two - it would be over. No one can judge another's pain. This is a great write Mr. Happy!


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lmmartin 5 years ago from Alberta and Florida

I agree with you; we should all have the right to 'check out' should we choose. It's getting to be the only right we have left.

Strangely enough, in the past, people have been hung for attempting suicide. Now there's justice for you!


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Darlene Sabella 5 years ago from Hello, my name is Toast and Jam, I live in the forest with my dog named Sam ...

I also agree, with my pain, and emotional stress I have always had this in my mind as my back door. I don't care what others think or feel about this as judgement runs rampet when you talk about this. But, only you and god knows your intent, and free will is something God gave to each and everyone one of us. Love & peace darski rate up happy new year....


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Wesman Todd Shaw 5 years ago from Kaufman, Texas

Great Write!


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FCEtier 5 years ago from Cold Mountain

Wasn't he an alcoholic? I seem to recall hearing some rather negative stuff about him. Hemingway was a heavy drinker, too. Is that a qualification of being a good writer?


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Michael Durden 5 years ago

He was a great writer. Sad that he's gone.


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gg.zaino 5 years ago from L'America

Hey Happy, my friend Patrick interviewed Hunter years ago, he is also a writer and journalist. You are correct it is the choice of the suicide to determine his or her means in leaving the planet.

i worked in mental health for 16 years and had seen so much uneeded pain- just to live the letter of outdated laws. laws closely linked to religious morality and institution.

thanks for the look- good write.

peace~ greg


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tonymac04 5 years ago from South Africa

Wonderful Hub about a great writer and the subject of suicide is important. Have you read Albert Camus' book the "Myth of Sisyphus" in which he discusses suicide? It's a great read too.

Thanks for sharing this. Was Thompson 67? That's how old I am! LOL!

Love and peace

Tony


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stclairjack 5 years ago from middle of freekin nowhere,... the sticks

didn't find the republican hub you mentioned but sure glad i found this one,... its a difficult subject, and you handled it well,... and the unique indiviuality of each case is the most important point you made,.. at least that's how this hillbilly read it,... well done


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Mr. Happy 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada Author

Thanks for all the comments gals and guys!

I will refrain from saying anything else on the issue of suicide. At the right time I might say more. Cheers!


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johnwindbell 5 years ago from - the land of beards and buggies

Talented, unique, successful yes, but I'm not much for Hunter S. Thompson. Not when you have greats out there like Tom Robbins, John Irving and the like.


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Mr. Happy 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada Author

I never heard of Tom Robbins and now that you mentioned him I did a quick Google search. His profile seems interesting. I will check-out some of his writing.

Hunter was a journalist though. He didn't write fiction. He wrote gonzo: basically a true story with some inflated parts so to speak or it was simply journalism with his personal twist (which to me is price-less). It was his free-spirit, courage and devotion for the truth that makes me admire the man so much.

Thank you for your comment and time Mr. John. Cheers!


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johnwindbell 5 years ago from - the land of beards and buggies

Cool. Tom is an acquired taste but after the initial dose you're sure to be hooked. 'Jitterbug Perfume' is probably my favorite considering I crave immortality like any artist. Irving is 'black humor'- both I score when ever they publish a new one. Enjoy and pass it on ~


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

You wrote it well, but I can see no beauty, not like others - because, "suicide/homicide" runs in my family. Not great writers - simply people who came to the point when they can bear no longer. My judgment was different until I experienced it myself.

It is difficult to distinguish between depression and the cause - when it is justified - I think in most cases our thinking is determined by our chemistry, and if certain chemicals get into certain composition - we are thinking in a certain way.

I am not condemning anyone, not the ones, who attempted, not the ones who succeeded, because I agree with you - it is a tragedy. And I think the tragedy is more in those who were around, were they blind? A human being near you "screaming" for help, yet no help is coming...

Sometimes people who get very down are those that come and shoot others in schools, I know those are extreme cases, but usually it turns out to be they were disturbed for a very long time, yet nobody cared.

Now I am asking the question "Do we care enough about others?" And it hurts me the most to admit that I am not ready to help anyone, even myself.

I have never read Thompson, maybe it is something I should do, but as far as suicide goes - to me it is always a tragedy, where with or without justification, but even if there is none (or rather seems to be none), I am not going to pass any judgment.

Happy people don't kill themselves. At any age. And you are right, there is always a story - maybe not the one that you expect.


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Grow 5 years ago from British Columbia - The Amsterdam Of North America

Hey Mr Happy,

I am not sure if you read "GONZO", Hunters biography written by Jan Wenner? It is a simple organization of interviews and statements from people that were close to Hunter, the bigger names include : Nicholson, Jonny Depp, Don Johnson, the list goes on, but it really gives you a lot of insight on how he lived his life, how he interacted with others. I thought it was great. Since I found a copy of Hells Angels in my basement when I was 14, I have been a huge fan of Dr Thompson. Although his later work contained a lot of mindless dribble...


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Mr. Happy 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada Author

Hey Mr. Grow.

Gonzo sounds familiar - is it about that lady that ends-up living with him for a while in order to write the biography? Sorry, my memory is not that great for obvious reasons and plus, I read all his stuff when I was in high-school - quite a long time ago. His books are right behind me though, on the bookshelf. I like politics too so, even the stuff that wasn't as fun as "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" or "Hell's Angels", I still enjoyed.

Thanks for dropping by. Cheers!


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Mr. Happy 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada Author

Kallini, I missed your comment here: I apologize.

You are right in saying that happy people do not kill themselves but I accept things not only as true but also as necessary.

All the very best!


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Mr. Happy, you don't have to apologize at all. We have talked about this subject and there is no disagreement between you and me, just different experiences.

I am going, correction, I had an idea to write "Will you come to my funeral?", but it is not the top priority.

Being suicidal for me is part of my reality - there is not much I can do about it but to endure - the last time when I was conscious about it was May 13 and May 31 this year.

Just one day? Yes, the chemical imbalance goes just like that. I have to be aware and recognize my own state using my mind to control my mind.

But if anyone can make me laugh it is you, you always leave such cheerful and funny comments on my hubs. That is your nature and I am happy having met you.

All the best,


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Mr. Happy 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada Author

Your words are humbling dear Kallini. I sincerely thank you. Keep writing and I can keep commenting : )

Cheers!


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Grow 5 years ago from British Columbia - The Amsterdam Of North America

Mr Happy,

You gotta read GONZO, it is not written by the lady that lived with him (there quite a few of those). Jan Wenner was Thompson's boss at Rolling Stone. In the bio .. it describes how he went about writing, how later in life.. when he was so messed up, that he was barely even writing a lot of the stuff that was published. I recently tried to read "The Great Shark Hunt", but I wasn't too impressed, I didn't finish it. I did really enjoy The Rum Diary, and I am looking forward to seeing the movie coming out any day now .. with Johnny Depp of course.


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Mr. Happy 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada Author

Wow, I didn't know the "Rum Diary" was being made in a movie .. that's awesome! That was the second book I read of his after "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas".

I finished "The Great Shark Hunt", "Fear and Loathing in America", "Hell's Angels", "The Proud Highway", "Generation of Swine", "Better than Sex" and ... ya that's about all of his books that are behind me on the bookshelf and I have read. The best I do think was "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas", much-much better than the movie! I would say the "Rum Diary" is next followed by "Hell's Angels".

Now I will for sure have to pick-up GONZO since it doesn't seem like I have read it. I am quite interested what his boss from Rolling Stone has to say about him although, he was the National Affairs Correspondent I think for years there while his books were from what I know, published by Random House.

Thanks for all the info. Cheers!


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TravelinAsia 5 years ago from Thailand/Southeast Asia

I thought I knew a lot about Dr Thompson because I had read many of his books. It wasn't until I read GONZO that I truly understood what he was all about. He was an interesting character.. a bit of a selfish prick .. a bit of an asshole really ..but a genius for sure!


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Spirit Whisperer 5 years ago from Isle of Man

Reading this hub was a strange experience because I recognised that it was you White Wolf, that started the hub but I did not recognise the person who finished it.

Suicide for me is simply a physical representation of what we all do mentally and spiritually. It is as a result of over identification with the illusions we create and believe in. The mind can think about the body but the body cannot think about the mind. How can killing the body extinguish the mind that created it? But I suppose some people need to prove it to themselves. I am glad I don't hate myself enough to commit suicide. I am also glad that at least in this lifetime I realise I am not my body!

Thank you.


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Mr. Happy 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada Author

Greetings Mr. Spirit Whisperer.

When did you lose track of the White Wolf here?

In respect to committing suicide, I am not sure if it is always done as an intention to "extinguish the mind" ...

"I am also glad that at least in this lifetime I realise I am not my body." - You aren't but you are Mr. Spirit Whisperer.

Thank you for your comment! : )


elway1978 4 years ago

Sorry but this article was pure tripe.


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Mr. Happy 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada Author

Greetings Mr. Elway,

I would say depending on how one sees "tripe" - it can be good and it can be bad. I for one, like tripe soup. It is part of my customs and culinary heritage. So, if You would have given more details, it would have been nice - in order to get a better idea of what You had in mind and/or why.

Nonetheless, thank You for the read and taking the time to comment. Cheers!


Todd Thayne Simonson 2 years ago

Aloha y'all, it's been a while since I've read on Edgar Cayce. If I remember right the "sin" of suicide is the pain you cause your loved ones, the punishment to live your next life without love, which is often the cause of suicide in the first place. I was caretaker for both my parents slow deaths. When the quality of life is gone, it's time to move on. A hermit stumbling thru the matrix.


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Mr. Happy 2 years ago from Toronto, Canada Author

Thank You for taking the time to read and leave a comment, Mr. Simonson.

All the very best! : )

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