Organized Stalking - Quelling Dissent

Imagine going about your life, and one day you notice that you've been starting to get a statistically disproportionate number of wrong number calls on your phone. Nearly all of your neighbors suddenly get louder, even purchasing equipment (leaf-blowers, basketball gear for the driveway, car alarms and whatever else they can think of) that all has one thing in common - it's loud - and they use it all hours of the day... even regularly taking shifts so that there's no peace and quiet from early morning till late at night. Traffic spikes sharply upward right outside your door, and people are always parking right outside, slamming their car doors, and chirping their brand spanking new car alarms that they suddenly all decided to rush out and get. When you go out, there seem to be more people around you on the street than usual. Wherever you go, strangers around you begin coughing more often. Clearing their throat around you more ("heh-HEMM!") unnecessarily loudly... and about once a minute. Statistically improbable numbers of total strangers around you whistling mindlessly - and tunelessly. The volume of strangers talking and laughing around you goes way, way up. In public, people in your peripheral vision seem to make a point of shaking their legs, tapping their feet, and even crossing their legs and jiggling their raised foot frenetically at the ankle... so that whatever you're doing, they break your concentration. People around you gesticulating wildly in conversation and even slapping themselves on the thigh repeatedly, hard enough to produce a really loud slapping noise, and continuing their conversation as if totally unaware of it. Many of the people you encounter and have to deal with in public life get ruder and ruder, and strangers around you start getting into loud arguments with each other wherever you go, while others will start interrupting you for seemingly normal reasons ("Do you know what time it is?" "Do you know how to get to _____ ?") but it will be a sharp increase beyond what is statistically normal... and day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, this bizarre jackassery just keeps happening.

This is organized stalking, and targets of it encounter scenarios like this every day. What would ordinarily be "lifes normal breaks", or simple bad luck, or encountering the occasional rude or thoughtless person instead reach a level that is too high to be explained in terms like that. I know this because I am a target of organized stalking, and have been for years. While it hasn't received a lot of attention yet from mainstream media, it's beginning to surface on the internet and independent news sources are beginning to carry the story. Because it isn't widely reported or acknowledged, and because of its seemingly coincidental effects, targets of organized stalking are often regarded with skepticism when they tell others about the problem, even in many cases enforcement personnel. And althought the problem has been going on in cities and suburbs for at least two decades, and the U.S. justice system has enacted legislation against one-on-one stalking, it has singularly disregarded the problem of organized stalking, in which an organized group of seemingly unrelated strangers are working as one to stalk as a lone stalker would - and go further, to harrass the target and sabotage all areas of their life.

See one target's testimonial

One courageous, intelligent target in New York tells her story while homeless, recording from a public library. Click here to open the video in a new window.

Riches to rags

Peace and quiet becomes impossible to achieve, in the target's own home or anywhere else. Stress levels increase on a daily basis. Sleep is disrupted. Sometimes, break-ins and personal thefts occur. One target of organized stalking went so far as to sell their house and move, only to find that the problems moved with them into their new neighborhood shortly after getting settled in. Small, sparsely-trafficked suburban instreets where the target lives gradually become high-traffic areas... on the corner where I lived, the city eventually installed a Yield sign due to the increase. Employers find reasons to fire targets of organized stalking, presumably due to whatever motivating forces caused their neighbors to take part in the harassment. Steady work becomes impossible for the target, and with it the ability to pay steady expenses like rent. Homelessness is often the result, opening broad new vistas of opportunity for ongoing harassment against the target, as they have nowhere to go to get away from it. Medical and dental expenses become impossible to pay for. The target's experiences of organized stalking are engineered to resemble delusions, paranoia and persecution complexes. We may never know how many targets of organized stalking have resorted to suicide, after being cast aside by the people around them as just another homeless nutcase.

Target catches stalkers with camcorder

These are casualties in a silent war. Organized stalking was once conducted by the KKK against African-Americans in the South. Since then, the CIA has conducted it in their MK Ultra program, and the FBI's own program of covert harassment against progressives, civil rights activists and otherwise outspoken individuals - including Martin Luther King - is called COINTELPRO. Many believe that although COINTELPRO was officially ended in April 1971, it has simply gone underground under that or a different project name. With so many secret government projects we may never know for certain, but this hypothesis is corroborated by my own experience - many of those I've met who have mentioned also being the targets of organized stalking have seemed to hit the profile for "troublemaker" in only one area: their research of the common law American political structure, commonly referred to as "sovereign citizenship". If this is the case, then their harassment by any government or private organization would necessarily be treason. It would also explain the failure of the U.S. justice system to recognize organized stalking and enact legislation against it - as well as provide an ample motive for this behavior. It used to be that anyone who was too politically inconvenient could be thrown into a psychological ward, labelled insane, and let them spend the rest of their life trying to clear themselves of the label and regain their freedom. With the advent of the internet and the potential for a free flow of information to greater numbers of people, it is apparently more cost-effective or less politically risky to decimate their lives - at least until the U.S. brings its troops home and begins using them to forcefully quell dissent by using them to replace local law enforcement officers, the legislation for which Bush has already signed.

From there, it's just a hop, skip and a jump to martial law, and relocating dissenters to detention and death camps which Homeland Security has already built.

Knowledge of organized stalking is just beginning to appear in our media.

For-hire stalking

But while it's easy to blame government, private for-hire organized stalking groups will evidently perform this disservice for anyone. It's been said that in America, the rest of your life is pretty much like high school. When anyone sufficiently rich has the ability to hire these groups to decimate the lives of anyone who has crossed them, this becomes even more the case. People used to complain about having one law for the rich and another for the poor, today it would seem that there is no law for the rich, while all are directed against the poor - and given the propensity for anyone to be middle-classed one day and be homeless with their life decimated the next, the definition of rich and poor is redefined as who can most effectively serve the political and economic forces in charge the best, while selling their soul the fastest. This is the way we rather casually devolve from a society of laws, to life as a combination whorehouse and game preserve. And all it takes is your collective indifference. Targets of organized stalking are, therefore, the scapegoats of the collective apathy and disinterest of everyone around them, and while pundits and politicians filibuster, lambast and make facile photo ops and talking points on the news about who is more patriotic than whom, people are going down. I've said before on HubPages that it's as if we're living in a blender, and some maniac (or about six billion of them) is progressively pressing the next-highest setting. This is part of what I'd meant - and I'd like to take the opportunity to withdraw the idea that the imagery is just an abstract metaphor.

Organized stalking is by no means limited to the U.S.. It's going on in the UK, and doubtless in other purportedly civilized countries as well. The idea that at least two first-world countries seem to have gone to the same seminar is a little disappointing. Different organized stalking groups apparently use different signals to their targets, as well. The point of organized stalking is to let the target know they are being intentionally stalked and harassed, so after moving in on the target they will establish repeated signals which the target will come through experience to associate with the stalkers. They can be entirely arbitrary - for example, laptops. People with laptops will suddenly start showing up everywhere around the target everywhere they go, with a high enough incidence that for it to be a normal, everyday occurance would be essentially impossible - particularly with all the harassment going on around the target at the same time. After a few months, the stalkers may gradually stop placing people with laptops around the target, but the psychological association will remain - whenever the target sees someone on a laptop, it will act as a psychological trigger, and the target will very likely infer that that person is part of the stalking group. These psychological triggers will accumulate for the target as more and more are added, and function pretty much like triggers left from ordinary domestic abuse - because organized stalking is a form of persecution and abuse.

DARPA: RADAR "Flashlight" Detects Heatbeats Up To Fifty Feet Behind Walls
DARPA: RADAR "Flashlight" Detects Heatbeats Up To Fifty Feet Behind Walls
DARPA: Recently Deployed Hand Held RADAR Scope
DARPA: Recently Deployed Hand Held RADAR Scope
DARPA: Vehicles With "XRay Vision" RADAR Scan Inside Urban Dwellings
DARPA: Vehicles With "XRay Vision" RADAR Scan Inside Urban Dwellings

High tech reindeer games

With technology available today, these reindeer games get even easier to play. Listening in on the target's activities at home is simple; they sell somewhat expensive devices to the public that will bounce a laser off of someone's window, and sounds inside will vibrate against the glass, which the the laser will pick up and translate back into sound. (These can be defeated not with tinfoil, but by going down to the pet shop and picking up a few air bubblers made for aquariums. You remove the tube, tape it to the windowpane, and plug it in. The vibrations set up on the glass by the bubbler are more than enough to drown out the smaller vibrations created by talking.) There are also a number of technologies out there that will let someone see through walls, usually involving bouncing a signal through the wall and getting image data back, similar to radar. Firemen have been using a device like this for years, designed to scan the contents of a house through the walls so that the firemen would know exactly what's where inside before they rush in through all the smoke and falling building. I've had stalkers consistently react not only to what was said inside the house, but also what was physically, silently done - even with the windows blocked.

Other targets assert that they've been made to experience pain, even leaving physical burn marks on the skin. Some have reported having their limbs moved against their will, even in their sleep, and others have reported hearing voices inside their heads, complete with the fidelity and kind of background noises you'd get with an ordinary microphone. While none of these have happened to me, there are plenty of pain generators available to the public, and there's no telling what other well-funded technologies exist within this dysfunctional Orwellian nightmare.

You can defeat laser-to-window audio bugs with a small air pump.
You can defeat laser-to-window audio bugs with a small air pump.

Resources for targets

If you find yourself the target of organized stalking there are some things you can do about it. Most of the research I've done suggests that going to the authorities doesn't work, and for whatever reason that seems to be the case I don't have any information one way or the other on that, since I haven't tried it. I have read of one target of organized stalking who found that after he went out and bought a gun, they left him alone. I've been out of the system by choice for over a decade, so the ability for me to acquire a permit is negligible. Other targets have caught their stalkers on camera - checking eBay for a used camcorder might not be the worst idea in the world, particularly if you're still at the point where your income stream hasn't been sabotaged. If you're metaphysically inclined, you also have other resources. The Lesser Key of Solomon, also known as the Theurgia Goetia, is like a little phone directory of demons - some of whom slay men, and you don't even need to know their address or social security numbers. Additionally, you can learn to run a high amount of Reiki energy - a form of divine healing energy - that has the additional and very practical effect of activating the body's own glands that produce natural opiates. With practice you can learn to do this in an eyes-open state throughout your daily life, and find yourself only minimally-affected by the harassment - being affected is necessarily a subjective thing, after all. And there are, of course, all kinds of metaphysical means by which you can route the karma of those involved right back to them. After a careful examination of the world, though, you may in fact come to the conclusion that this is reduntant. What we really need, of course, is a solution to the broken system we're all living in, but people have been making quite a collective and concerted effort towards apathy on that count. And ultimately, that's why neither being the target of organized stalking nor anything else in the world can significantly affect me internally - when you're living in a blender, beyond a certain point it doesn't really matter what setting it's on, or what your quality of life is like... it's all so far below par that it's unacceptable. That being said, I can pass on a bit of advice for those newly suffering from this recent instance of societal breakage - foam earplugs don't work well enough for something like this. You can get yourself a relatively cheap pair of around-the-ear headphones at Radio Shack and turn them up quite high, at which point you'll only have to worry about the peripheral visual distractions and tactile stuff like people drumming on your table and bumping into you and so on. You can also go to an art store and buy kneadable artist's eraser very cheaply - it will actually mold itself to conform to the insides of your ear, and block the noises out that much better. Be careful not to re-use it a lot, as it can gum up your ears for months if it starts to mix with a lot of earwax. But other than that, it can allow you to block out the daily distractions and nightly sleep-depriving noises.

And then you patiently wait for society to finish decimating itself, and contemplate the immortality of the soul. You have a look at where society is headed, and blink at its tendency to suppress the symptoms of the problem rather than solve the problem - even when the symptoms are just living, breathing people who are researching how to make the system work rather than implode. Now would be a good time to take up philosophy, religion, spirituality, metaphysics. You'll have plenty of time on your hands, when you're out on the street with your life decimated. Where to spend that time in a way that's worthwhile, while stuck in a society that's literally eating itself up from the inside, becomes the question... but then it always was, wasn't it? How much more worthwhile was it to sit in a living room watching mind-melting reality shows before all this came into your life? The cost of living has gone way, way up, and the quality of life has gone way, way down. It's now a tedious, penny-ante poker game, and all society is doing at the moment is upping the stakes to human lives. In a dead-end world, there really isn't anything more that can be taken away from you - particularly without increasing the karmic debt of those who build successful lives in shallow, meaningless terms by encroaching against you - and destroying society with a secret war against private citizens. When a society throws away the lives of its more capable, intelligent, civic-minded citizens, the resulting soul- and brain-drain means that there really isn't anything a target needs to do individually to put a stop to it; society will come to a screeching halt all on its own.

Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny

A brilliant and slyly entertaining novel that shows what happens when Powers That Be oppress a world - and what happens when someone sets up a countercurrent. See my write-up on it for more information.

The Game (1997) Michael Douglas, Sean Penn

In a somewhat thinly-veiled Hollywood allegory, Michael Douglas plays a rich executive who finds himself the target of organized stalking - complete with a lot of the head-games involved. Violence and action aside, it actually depicts a fairly accurate portrayal of the organized stalking experience. Good renting for anyone who'd like to find out what organized stalking is like.

The Net (1995) Sandra Bullock, Jeremy Northam, Dennis Miller

Hollywood again finds its thriller movies an excellent vehicle for nudging Americans into paranoia when Sandra Bullock finds herself caught in The Net, showing how "life's normal breaks" can be engineered to destroy a life - and even take over someone's identity. The technology of the modern world is twisted for evil ends, all because Sandra Bullock's character has information - in this case, computer data - that They don't want her to have. The Net demonstrates how much of our modern security in society - our public identity, our finances, our medical treatment, and our criminal records - can be altered with just a few keystrokes by the wrong people.

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Jayson Pheelips 4 years ago

Gangstalking is real the Gov knows about and does nothing.They use auto suggestion hypnosis and injected chemical restraints and injected aversives.The injections have pocket sized bioaerosol fumes that activate the drugs,aversives.Welcome to the New America.

Mr. Magoo 5 years ago

frequently sites such as this can be set up so harassers can snag an IP address and harass someone even more. The latter usually harass people when you have real eyewitness proof of their criminal activities. Such as witnessing the government running false news stories. Secret organization members selling illegal goods. etc.. I have phone and video evidence of harassment. However. It was brought to my attention by an individual who works for the fed's (who is a monster himself). If someone launches a false complaint about someone. Then the government has to investigate. Often it can be a government employee who makes the false complaint. If the person being investigated then files a compliant of harassment there is a good chance their complaints will thus be ignored. In other words. Such people are liable to say anything about anyone first to cover their ass. Because that's really what it boils down to. It's usually the criminals who portray themselves as good guys. Government and law enforcement included. If you become a BoundMason or a chimp or any other society member. You're really just embarrassing yourselves. I put them first. Everyone knows they are lying garbage.

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Satori 5 years ago from California Author


Congrats on the new book! It's good to have organized stalking information getting out there.

The personnel with whom you're working should probably be made aware, if they're not already, that the U.S. has a covert equivalent of the Civil War brewing within its various federal Agencies. The CIA for example is and always was comprised of two polar opposite factions forced together under one office: the true-blue Patriots who actively seek to keep the Union together and functioning in a proper and healthy way, and the remnants of the Gestapo who amass tons of money through drug trade and promoting a mindset and network of human slavery throughout the Union, increasingly. Within the context of covert geopolitics at least, this is what's going on through the majority of the federal Agencies. The situation at the moment is rather complex, but cash flow shortfalls and increasingly effective international resistance have been making the scenario a lot more streamlined, to the distinct and clear advantage of the Union's Patriots. See for more information.

This is the scenario as it's most likely affecting your particular situation, and the personnel with whom you're working should probably be advised of it to have the information they need in order to be most effective. However, while it's accurate within its own context there are other, larger contexts that make this one look like unnecessarily convoluted, detail-oriented paper-shuffling. Larger agendas out there typically use the covert governmental and geopolitical contexts as busywork for the underlings, while they churn out daily crimes that make mass drug importation and sedition look like parking violations by comparison. And that's being written by someone who loves the Union dearly.

Be well,

- Satori

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davidvoicetoskull 5 years ago


I have authored a new book about how voice to skull, synthetic telepathy, remote surveillance and control influenced me. This type of influence commits the crime of sedition on me. It does so in such a way that I have successfully sought out the help of the US Secret Service. I have been in contact with them because of the message I received instructed me to kill President Barrack Obama. The book is titled "Targeting our Own Country" The book discusses my story relating my experience to the U.S.S.S and Army counterintelligence. My book contrasts my experience along with Jared Lee Loughner's (Tucson Tragedy) story. Jared is the targeted individual gunman responsible for the Arizona Shooting. I dive into the real technology and provide support through hot links in the ebook. Please see my site I will be publishing soon on kindle fire, nook, ipad and pdf.

My experience of being targeted and being and having sedition worked has led me to the U.S.S.S. and they off agree that I am targeted and want to make sure the tech cannot influence me. My book is 470 pages and has take 3 years to complete.

Email me for details

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Satori 5 years ago from California Author


In the olden days, the community would collectively put a bounty out on outlaws. Now the outlaws collect drug and tax money, and pay the community to do organized stalking on people.

I really want the public to become aware of organized stalking, because it will show people that if they're not part of the solution, they're funding the problem. Then we can go back to the way they used to do it.

Be well,

- Satori

greg 5 years ago

hey you want to do me a favour start telling people topeka kansas is stalking the life out of a man named greg

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Satori 5 years ago from California Author


Thanks for that info. Always good to have specifics.

If you evaluate the symbolism used by the Hell's Angels, you will find it associated with the Vatican's symbolism. They appear to be, among other things, street-level enforcement. They do not appear to be exclusive to the Vatican, but rather also work for the Rockefeller faction more prevalent within the U.S..

Be well,

- Satori

dave 5 years ago

i have heard that alaskan towns like homer alaska,and eagle river alaska and kotzebue alaska are hot spots for gang stalking and murder.The old motorcycle gangsters pushed this stuff in alaska and now we have a rash of these biker thugs bringing in these kid gangs into alaska and the cops being rotten or the good cops being outnumbered by corrupt cops it is a sad sad situation in alaska .This used to be a good place to live now its almost as bad as hells kitchen.

Song 5 years ago

Hello, Greg, well, to some extent, gangstalking is an urban, modern sport, like Parkour, for example. What is in common between Parkour and gang-stalking? Both sports use modern environment and all sorts of attributes of modern environment. In case of Parkour it's mostly buildings, cars and street stuff, and in case of gang-stalking it's all sorts of electronic gadgets and, of course, people. And when I say people, I don't mean only targets. Targets in this sport are more like baits and not the most important part of the game. Of course, from the targets' point of view - they are very important, but if we look at the bigger picture, targets are not important at all, they are just baits. Can we say that the bait is the most important part of the fishing sport? Of course not! Important parts of the fishing sport are (in the descending order): 1) environment, lakes, rivers, seas and so on, 2) fishermen, 3) fish, 4) fishing equipment, 5) baits. It's not even that important what you use as bait, you can use worms, pieces of bread, meat and so on. Therefore, it's really not about the targets. It's more about the process. The goal is not to kill the targets or drive them to suicide. Just like the goal of fishing is not to kill the bait (some fishermen say the goal is even not to catch fish, but to enjoy the process). If that was the goal, gangstalkers could just kill the targets and make it look like an accident or suicide, that would be cheaper and faster. Just like in any other sport the goal is - the process. In the process, the higher-ranked gangstalkers control the lower-ranked gangstalkers. So, this process creates a system of ranks and subordination - that's what's important to masterminds of gangstalking.

greg 5 years ago

I only want to say i live in topeka kansas and they stalk people here like its a sport

Song 5 years ago

Dear Satori, I did check the web-site

I have to say it is quite amasing. And also I thought about the amount of work that you obviously put into it. It's like a Master's thesis or Doctorate research paper. It also helped me to learn a lot about American history. Interesting thing, it occured to me, that what gangstalkers are doing to us is - they are trying to bring us down "democratically". It's different from bringing someone down "undemocratically" - killing or kidnapping someone and so on. They don't want to get their hands dirty. So what they do is they start a "re-election campaign", where they try to vote us out of office (our normal life). The voters are the people around us. It's a dirty campaign. They try to get their votes by all kind of means, defamation, bribery, even threats. Then they persuade people to vote against us - not by raising hand or submitting a ballot, but by whistling, singing, staring, refusing us a job, harassing us and so on - everything to let us know that they "vote" against us. Electorate behaves like a normal electorate - some people "vote" against us, some people refuse to vote and some people vote for us - by expressing their good will - treating us for dinner and so on. So, no wonder pretty soon we get tired of this constant re-election campaign and realize that we are sovereign subjects with rights given to us by God, not by people - like you wrote in your paper.

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Satori 5 years ago from California Author

Mr. Song,

An interesting story. Thanks for sharing it.

I think the distinction is that the philosophy of abandonment shows us how to distinguish between desires motivated by ego attachment, and the desire to affirm and live in alignment with Divine Will. While that's a healthy thing to know how to distinguish, I often find it misapplied in situations like this.

As he put it, "Whistling, singing, laughing, white cars, people with kids, loud speaking and other things are OK - it is not crossing the line. Punching you to the face, robbing you and things like that - are not OK." I believe our society ought to draw the line when it comes to whistling, singing, laughing and so forth when they're deliberate weapons; when they're used to harass and to violate rights. In fact in the U.S., it has drawn the line there - I have my right to do what I like, provided it doesn't impair your access to your rights. When it does, I have to modify what I do so as not to encroach against you.

This is the system of government we established in this country: a constitutional republic. Not a democracy. In a republic, our rights are considered sacred and inviolate. The trouble is, groups have been causing the people to misremember what their form of government is, and warps their choices. Each inroad they make into how our society functions enables them to make even more inroads: it's a hacking effort. What a great reason to promote an education among the people of what their rights and laws truly are, not that this could ever justify all the hacking.

You may be interested to have sovereignty information. Several of my other Hubs are on the subject, and there's some great introductory information here:

Be well,

- Satori

Mr. Song 5 years ago

By the way, about finding better ways to cope with gang-stalking. I want to tell you a story. Recently I traveled to China, where I had a chance to talk to a Dao master, an old man with a beard in a long gown, just like in movies. The fact that he gave advice to people for money didn't bother me - everybody has to survive in our capitalist world one way or another. I felt skeptical about talking to Dao master, and only did it because my Chinese friend thought it would be cool for me as a foreigner to have this experience. I waited in a line of tourists for my turn to speak to him and then I entered the gazebo and saw this man sitting on a chair, surrounded by other men, probably his students. My Chinese friend and I paid our fee (which was very modest by the way), sat on something comfortable, like a couch and converstaion (through a translator) started. The old master said something first. My friend translated: "There are no problems in this universe, there are only situations, they are not good or bad, they just are, only our thinking, our attitude towards the situation makes it bad." I thought - wait until you hear about my situation, then you will understand that it is bad. Dao master said: "tell me what bothers you, son". I said (the following is our conversation):

- What bothers me is there is a group of people that harrasses me, but they do it in such a subtle way, that I can't really report it to authorities.

- What do they do, son, and who are they?

- They slander me, they ruined my reputation, as a result they limited my job opportunities, I feel like they hurting my career and my financial situation and also irritate me daily by their stupid street theater, sensitizing me to whistling, singing, laughing, people with kids, white cars, crossing paths, loud speaking and other noise and other things.

- Are you telling me, son, that you have some enemies, who want to destroy you?

- Well, yes, basically, that's what I am saying.

- There is an old Dao saying "Whatever you fight, you strengthen, whatever you resist - persists." You have to surrender to the Universe, and then THE MEANING of all things will be opened to you.

- So, what are you saying, do not fight them, do not resist, accept the situation? But I feel that I am being discriminated, and discriminated people have to fight for their rights. For example, if black people in America in 50s and 60s didn't fight for their rights, they would still be sitting in the back of buses.

- I am not saying to do nothing, although in some situations that's the best thing to do - nothing. All what I am saying is do not judge the situation, first accept the situation as a part of universe. After COMPLETE ACCEPTANCE of the situation, you will let go of your little mind, your little ego, and get connected with UNIVERSAL INTELLIGENCE, that will guide you through the situation. But to completely surrender and completly accept you have to accept your mortality, accept the fact that your body will get old, die and decompose, accept the fact that your body is not invincible, that nothing is forever, everything is subject for change, even stars die. Now, I will help you a little to do it. Sit back and relax, but do not fall asleep. Close your eyes, now - stop thinking. Blank your mind. Awareness without thinking is the key to getting connected to UNIVERSAL INTELLIGENCE.

30 seconds or so passed, as I sat there trying not to think. Then he continued:

- Now, tell me about your problem again.

- Well, my problem is that there are people harrassing me, but they do it in such a subtle way, that I can't report it to authorities.

- Well, you just answered yourself.

- What did I answer?

- You said the harrassment is so subtle, that you can not report it to authorities. That means if harrassment intensifies, if they cross the line, you can report it to authorities. So, all what you have to do now is to decide what is the line. Whistling, singing, laughing, white cars, people with kids, loud speaking and other things are OK - it is not crossing the line. Punching you to the face, robbing you and things like that - are not OK. So, every time you encounter your harrassment, you just have to say - crossed the line, not crossed the line. If they don't cross the line - don't pay attention, and don't even think about it, if they do cross the line - report it to authorities. Period. Just draw the line. Where is the problem? No problem. Only the situation to be dealt with or accepted.

- But what about the other part?

- What other part?

- Part where they slander me, ruin my reputation, my career opportunities, my relantionships with people.

- Oh, that... My opinion is all that happens in our life, we have to learn from it, and it's not necessarily good or bad, it just is and it can be the greatest teacher for you. For example you said, they ruined your repuation. Well, look at the bright side, you don't have to care anymore about what people think about you. You can be free of good opinion of other people! What a liberation! Do you know how much time and energy other people waste caring about other people's opinion? You have a great opportunity here - you can be free of good opinion of other people - enjoy it! Maybe being liberated like that, you can finally do something really meaningful. I mean look, all the greatest people in the world, all the great philosophers of East and West didn't really care about what people or society or religious leaders and so on thought about them - that's why they were able to achive what they did. Life is giving you a chance to become one of them.

Mr. Song 5 years ago

Dear Jim Jones, I tried to access your web-site, but internet connection failed. I will try it more later.

In some ways cults are more powerful than government. Why? Because they are above government. Cult members infiltrate government and law-enforcement structures and control them from inside. While government officials are public figures and are accountable for their actions, cult high-ranking officials are not accountable for their actions - they literally can do whatever they want. Soka Gakkai International has its own political party in Japanese parliament - New Komeito, which is a third largest political party in Japan after leading Democratic party of Japan and Liberal-Democratic party of Japan. Which organization do you think is more powerful, government organization New Komeito or cult organization Soka Gakkai? Soka Gakkai has millions of people, New Komeito has thousands of people, Soka Gakkai has billions of dollars in funding, New Komeito has millions of dollars in funding and so on. I think, it's the other way around. It's government and law enforcement structures that are the link between real controllers - gray cardinals, powerful cult organizations -and the rest of people. But in a big scale of things it's really not that important, which organization exactly is pulling the strings. Everybody's situation is different.

You can be bullied by one person and still suffer as much. I mean we are here online to share our experiences and emotionally support each other, right? Maybe find better ways to cope with this whole thing.

Mr. Song 5 years ago

I think the same factors that motivate people to join cults motivate people to join gangstalking groups. Sense of power, of belonging to something big, something important, sense of comradery. It's collective ego. People think that they serve something bigger, than themselves, they think that they let go of ego. But in reality, a personal ego just has been replaced by a collective ego.

Jim Jones 5 years ago

Mr. Song: Cults are only a go between you and some government agency, which in the U.S. is the local police department. I'm not familiar with the Japanese system. Check out my website:

Mr. Song 5 years ago

Satori, by the way, you also might find helpful Rick Ross cult awareness site . It has some really good information about cults and discussions about cults. And since cults or cult-like groups or cultish behavior play very important role in gang-stalking, you might also go there and check it out and even post some stuff. I read an interesting article about freemasons

I also read some other stuff and I found striking similarities between freemasons and SGI. You see, both organizations have long history, both organizations claim that they are not religions (yet they enjoy the ability to do business tax-free as religious organizations), both organizations have huge numbers of people (SGI has 12 million, freemasons have 5 million around the world), both organizations are very rich, and what is most interesting for us as gang-stalking victims, both organizations have to keep their followers in line: occupied and busy and unified, and one of the ways to do it - keep them unified against common enemies. In case of SGI it's Nichiren Shoshu (rival organization) members and former members - traitors, and just random "practice targets". In case of freemasons, I am sure it's something similar, like "sinners", maybe "liberals" and so on.

I also found a forum on Rick Ross, discussing mind-control. But people there talk about MKULTRA, and some other government projects, and right away, they make it sound like conspiracy theories and paranoia. Maybe you can post there you gang-stalking experiences and point that you think that freemasons are sposoring your perps.,43718,page=1

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Satori 5 years ago from California Author

Mr. Song,

I've had to delete one of your posts, as we typically don't re-post full articles here in the Comments section. However, I'm familiar with the video you linked to and have used it as part of my workshops. It's been added to this Hub, and I'm adding the remainder of your deleted comment here to uphold your right to free speech:


"Society little by little begins to acknowledge 'gangstalking'. I think it's the term, that scares people away. I mean people are new to the concept of stalking and here they have to believe in stalking by a group. Too much! Forget about stalking for a moment. Think about bullying. There is nothing transcendental or super-unusual about bullying, right? During the 10 000 years of human history, strong were BULLYING the weak. And so it continues into the 21st century. Big brothers and big sisters bullying little brothers and little sisters, because they are bigger, there is school bullying, work-place mobbing, bosses bullying employees, bullying in the army, when older soldiers bullying new-comers (specially visible in countries with draft laws - conscripts, who were drafted earlier and are adjusted better bully new conscripts), bullying in prisons, bullying in financial world and business world, when monopolies bullying smaller private companies or how about a phrase by big boss `You career is over, I will make sure you will never work in this industry again'. Strong still bully the weak.

That's why governments break up monopolies, because they are rightfully afraid, that monopolies will abuse their power."


I hadn't been aware of SGI before. Most of my familiarity with Buddhism has been very healthy, but from what members had been describing in the forum link you'd shared it does indeed look as though the SGI group categorizes as a cult. I know enough about the Vatican to appreciate personally how anyone can screw up what could otherwise be valid religious concepts.

I'd like to bring to your attention the current effort to censor the internet. Without information available to people on suppressed topics like this, society can't function effectively.

Be well,

- Satori

Mr. Song 5 years ago

Hello, Satori, my case is similar to yours. You are being stalked by free masons, a cult. I am also being stalked by a cult - Soka Gakkai International. Although, perps are not nessesarily members of the cult, they are being sponsored by the cult. It's intereting that your nick is Satori, which is a term from Zen, because Soka Gakkai International is a lay buddhist organization, that used to be affiliated with Nichiren Shoshu - Nichiren Buddhist sect until 1990s. In the beginning of 1990s Nichiren Shoshu high priest excommunicated Soka Gakkai and ordered them to disband. Instead of disbanding, SGI declared a war against its former parent organization Nishiren Shoshu, defaming, demonizing and harrassing Nishiren Shoshu high members, using techniques of gang-stalking. There is a forum of former SGI members discussing this in detail,87661

I also used to post on this forum, until the moderator became impatient with the very term "gang-stalking" and started rejecting my posts. (He was fine, when I called it harrassment, bullying or defamation, because those things are acknowledged on a judicial level.)

Here is our conversation:

-Sorry, I didn't see your Private Message, and that's why I posted my message again. But, gang-stalking is very much related to SGI. I feel that before proving involement of SGI with gangstalking, I have to prove to the general public that gangstalking exists.

-Yes. There is no proof. Most people that claim this appear to delusional. It really has no place on the board. Rick Ross

-With all do respect, sir, but the very reason I posted this message is because Santa Cruz Police Leiutenant Larry Richard acknowledges gang-stalking and calls it bullying on steroids. Are you saying that leiutenant on duty of Santa Cruz police department is delusional?

-I have received many such calls. None were objectively proven. And the people involved frankly came across as both paranoid and delusional. If the police officer wishes to believe such claims that's his choice. But I don't and won't allow it on the message board. This is a serious board about real groups and situations, not delusional paranoid rants and conspiracy theories. Rick Ross

-First of all, sir, let me express gratitude for what you are doing for former cult members, including me. As about people who discuss "gang-stalking" online appearing paranoid - I totally agree. But that is the very purpose of gangstalking - to evoke and develop paranoia in someone. Paranoia can be triggered and amplified by certain circumstances. So, gangstalkers, who educated themselves in psychiatry create those circumstances on purpose. Can you take a normal person and make a paranoiac out of him/her? The answer is - Yes. Just like you can take a normal person and make a cult devotee out of him/her. I mean those crazy cult devotees, including me in the past, used to be normal people, but by some set of psychological tricks they were turned into some crazy fanatics. The same way you can take a normal person, who just goes about his/her life, start following him/her, start interfering with his/her life, and this person turns into some paranoiac.

Tell me one more thing, why is everybody on Soka Gakkai discussion board so afraid to reveal their identity? What EXACTLY are they afraid of? Can you formulate it? Can you put your finger on it? If you try to formulate, it will sound like this: "people are afraid to reveal their identity, because they are afraid that if SGI knows their names, and knows that they are former members and criticize SGI, SGI will consider them traitors and will try to somehow get back at them, somehow make their life more difficult, somehow damage their lives". If you look carefully at this statement, it's very paranoid. Paranoid people think like that. "Oh, my God, I can't reveal my name, because this organization, this group of people will somehow get back at me". Pure paranoia. And yet, you actually encourage people on this board to keep their identities private.

If you don't like the term "gang stalking" (I don't like it either), I am not going to use it in my future posts. I totally understand your concern, that if you allow gang stalking discussions on your forums, it will quickly turn into one of those paranoid-sounding threads. I wouldn't want that to happen either. But I want to continue a discussion about SGI interfering with people's lives, hurting people. I want to research more about The Victims Of Soka Gakkai Association and their complains (I am sure not all of them are crazy), and I want to know why so many Japanese people complain that SGI has more and more influence in Japan and using this influence to hurt people's lives. But I promise that in the future I will be careful about my posts.

-The previous messages covered this. I am not interested in going back and forth with you. Rick Ross

But, I can understand his position. You see, he runs forums about cults. And, he doesn't hide his identity. Everybody knows who he is. So, if he admits that gang-stalking exists, and cults are involved in it, that will make him feel very afraid and uncomfortable, because cults also might target him. So, he simply denies it, it helps him to sleep at night.

Jim Jones 5 years ago

I too have been driven out of a job, in fact on very day the U.S. public debt hit 100% of the GDP. Gang stalking isn't perversion of the system. It's the system, the system behind the TV set: There was a Presidential hearing on gang stalking on May 18, 2011 in Washington, DC:

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