USA bent on fighting from both sides in af-pak sector war

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Feb 11 2010

Reasons for Current Spread of Terrorism

USA is bent on fighting from both sides in af-pak sector war

I wrote the following comment in a discussion on hub pages. The initiator, a hubber from Pakistan had wondered why terrorism today is spread from poor and Muslim countries. He was then concluding that terrorism will go away once poverty is removed. I wrote the following comment. Let me put it in the hub also. Looking forward to your views on it. I am modifying my comments slightly to make it more suitable for a hub.

My comment

Poor People are not real cause of terrorism
Your final words are good. Indeed, if some basic needs of life are satisfied then average persons may not take trouble to do useless things which do not affect their lives, certainly not violent acts. This is the model followed in western Europe and USA. They have managed to keep satisfaction of this type for an average person.

But your initial assessment about reasons for spread of terrorism are in reverse direction. When you imply terrorism is only because of poor people, you are looking only at foot soldiers who just now have no option but to follow their masters.

Real cause of current spread of terrorism
Spread of terrorism today has very little to do with Muslim religion or poor people. Main cause of spread of terrorism today is that many Muslim countries are ruled by Army or feudal lords. For example Pakistan has now democracy but real rulers are mainly army top guys and a few feudal lords. Saudi Arabia is another example. These rulers have decided that they can never have technological economic capacity to fight conventional wars or to stop spread of development in their country, which may result in erosion in their hold over masses in their country. It seems that then they decided that only way they can have their power in their own country as well as in other countries is by having proxy wars using terrorism and instigating religious sentiments among masses to have support for such wars. For this to happen they do not mind even people in their own country getting killed.


Extremism in Pakistani society started from upper middle class
Many articles in Pakistani press point out that real extremism in their society also started from upper middle class and mainly army officers. (see links below for three articles from well known Pakistani writers giving an exceptionally good analysis of current situation in Pakistan on evolution of extremism in their society and also an interesting hub on the same topic by Perrya)

It is these rulers who are also bent on keeping main population there uneducated and poor and using them as a tool. Creating Muslim religious sentiments to find foot soldiers all over world is also being used by them as a tool to create an international proxy war set up. One can also see that the difference in the manner in which they fight terrorists and western people do, reflects this phenomena. While western countries do take a lot of care to decrease civilian deaths using technological tools, Pakistani army does not mind even carpet bombing areas in their own country, resulting in mass casualties and displacements. Many writers from Pakistan have recorded miseries this has caused.

Incapacity of India or China and quagmires of USA and West European countries
It is unfortunate that large countries of the region like India, China are now not properly organized or managed. Thus they do not have time being capacity or strategy to fight these rulers and help economically the actual population in these countries. The western countries have got involved, specially after 9/11, in fighting only foot soldiers and are in the name of helping population in these countries helping and paying bribes to only these top rulers. Even earlier than 9/11 they were playing the same game.

USA is now bent on fighting in af-pak sector of war from both sides
The strategies of USA and Western European countries now seem to be lost in corruption in their own set up and a quagmire. They are fighting the foot soldiers and at the same time helping these top rulers who are organizing these foot soldiers against them. Thus they seem to be bent on fighting in af-pak sector war from both sides! Until they resolve to put their act in a proper perspective, chances are very less that the problem will get solved.


Links to three  articles with exceptionally good analysis on rise of extremism and current situation by Pakistani writers

The scholar, the sufi, and the fanatic

A tale of two classes in Pakistan

Where’s that counter-terror strategy? Asks a Pakistani writer

Hub by Perrya - Disaster in Afghanistan Caused By Bad US Policy

Is USA now going to support terrorist networks against India and Afghanistan

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glassvisage 6 years ago from Northern California

I like that you took a comment that you made and elaborated on it. Sometimes I feel like people just write short, shallow comments that don't contribute much to HubPages (I admit I do it too!). This is a great opportunity to add some great input to the community. Thanks!


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Myriad 6 years ago from the bottom of your heart .. ie chennai!

Exceptionally well written article ! :)


soumyasrajan 6 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA Author

Thanks a lot glassvisage and Myriad. Policies from all these countries indeed do not have simple explanations. Perhaps some expert who is really into it can explain more why we should be lost in such quagmires and unnecessary destruction.


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H P Roychoudhury 6 years ago from Guwahati, India

I liked the article very much. I have already expressed my personal view in this regard in my published article " World War II-Prisoner & Terrorist Chronicle". I shall request you to have a look to it at your leisure time. Thanks.


soumyasrajan 6 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA Author

Thanks a lot Roychoudhuriji. I will surely go through your article.


china man 6 years ago

Although I can agree with this in some ways I cannot agree with the reasons for terrorism - I believe this comes from a mixture of social imbalances and oppression, ignited by western policies and direct interference, mainly for nothing more than trade advantage, money is power.


soumyasrajan 6 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA Author

Hi! china man

Thanks for your visit. I liked your article on absence concept in Taoism very much. I think reason you are talking has some relevance but it is secondary. The main reason is the feudal rulers and their insecurities (in case of Pakistan feudal rulers are army bosses and feudal lords). The actions by West have messed up things further but they have been made possible because of these feudal rules.

I feel even China is messing further just with similar ideas as west has been doing for last 2-3 decades. (being in China you will have much more expertise in China-thinking, I wonder what you feel).

But these are results of the main reason I describe. It will be interesting to discuss this further with you.

I do not know whether you have seen some of the articles written by some Pakistani writers about spread of extremism in their country. I have given links in my recent article http://hubpages.com/politics/NewsViews-April-2010-...

and earlier ones on this topic. In particular you may perhaps like the following very informative article

http://blog.dawn.com/2009/12/31/the-scholar-the-su...

It will be intersting to see your comments about it.


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H P Roychoudhury 6 years ago from Guwahati, India

Yes, terrorism is not due to ‘poverty ‘or of ‘Muslim Religion’. It is due to the policy of army Rule, and partly due to enmity of Pakistan to India, and partly due to the miss-guided teachings of Sari at Law under the guidance of US to fight against Soviet occupation in Afghanistan.


soumyasrajan 6 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA Author

Hi! Roychoudhuriji

Welcome! Quite right. But I do not think enmity is felt much in India. I think most people in India will be happy to help people of Pakistan to come out of this nightmare they are facing. Only people who feel or at least project enmity are Pakistani rulers with motive to protect their rule.


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peterxdunn 6 years ago from manchester uk

The military industrial complex needs enemies to justify the colossal expenditure of tax dollars/pounds(sterling)/euros.

Where necessary it will create them.


soumyasrajan 6 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA Author

Hi! peter

Thanks a lot for the visit. Yes I agree. There is no other clear explanation to behavior of USA, Europe etc. administration of getting into such a quagmire and fighting and financing both sides in a war except possibly corruption at various level.


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OpinionDuck 6 years ago

The USA has been losing battles since WWI not because of the military but because of the politicians, especially the liberals. It also extends to the liberal voters and their lack of commitment to a war once it has been started.

The Korean War and the Vietnam War were early examples of the liberal contribution to losing them.

WWII was a loss when the liberal politicians took defeat out of the jaws of victory and caving in to Russia and enabling the cold war.

The list goes on till today.

As I have written about in my other hubs, the cause of the problems in this country are mainly found in Congress. Congress has not been able to work effectively for the people, and they should be renamed to Digress.

It doesn't matter which political party is in control of Congress, the result is still chaos.

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soumyasrajan 6 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA Author

Hi! OpinionDuck

I quite agree with you. I would perhaps add to the list of politicians also people who control the IV estate.

Today even information flow from leading news papers and news channels is very biased- it has become what some body called tabloidization of news. Fortunately technology change -and spread of blogs, hubs etc. has changed the whole space. My hope is that this new space created will bring some strength to fight this onslaught from first rulers (Politicians)and News makers. It is affecting the whole democratic set up not just in USA but in all democratic countries.

In countries like India the effect is much worse than USA. Now most parties in India are ruled in feudal manner by a a person or a family for much longer periods than desirable. Same is true of news organizations.


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OpinionDuck 6 years ago

Hi Soumyasrajin

Today the news is produced for entertainment and not informaiton. It is as you say very biased and therefore not newsworthy.

It is unfortunate that so many people are easily addicted to the news, which has become a vehicle for mind control.

Thanks

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soumyasrajan 6 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA Author

Yes I quite agree OpinionDuck!

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