The Red October Movement in South Africa

© Martie Coetser (Klerksdorp, South Africa)
© Martie Coetser (Klerksdorp, South Africa)

White South Africans have had enough of the brutal killing of their people

"We have had enough!" says the organizers of Red October.

"People all over the World will gather, bearing Red Balloons and White Crosses in memory of those who have lost their lives and in protest against the inhumane Slaughter and oppression of White South Africans. This needs to stop and can no longer be ignored."

They worded their feelings as follows:

  • We will again stage marches and gatherings across South Africa and the World to let everyone know that we have had ENOUGH!
  • No longer will we be silent about the oppression of our people! No longer will we endure the killing of our people on our farms and in our towns and cities!
  • We can no longer be silent about the brutal torture of the elderly and the defenceless!
  • We are tired of Corrupt Governance, Racist Black Economic Empowerment and Affirmative Action policies. We can no longer tolerate the destruction of our infrastructure, our filthy government hospitals, our pathetic educational system, dirty dams and rivers, uninhabitable parks and public areas, dangerous neighbourhoods and filthy streets! The list is endless and we say it’s ENOUGH!

Not only in South-Africa, but in many countries across the globe, people gather on a certain day in October to protest peacefully against the brutal killing of defenceless white people in South Africa. After a reading from scripture, and prayer, red balloons are released into the sky. The number of attacks and killings, meticulously recorded by the keepers of statistics, are discussed and regretted before the participators go home with the hope that the killings will come to an end.

Although every year has its own alarming statistics, 1 May 2012 to 30 April 2014 was described as a-year-from-hell - 310 attacks, 473 victims, 173 murdered, 22 raped.

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© Martie Coetser

Who are the supporters of Red October?

Red October is mainly supported by members of left-wing' white political parties who believe that the killing of "their people" by black people is rooted in racism and revenge. The government denied that these killing are racist; they categorize it as 'ordinary crime'.

Why is only a handful of whites involved in Red October, was my question to a fierce supporter of the Red October Movement. He assured me that 'since the beginning' there were three groups of white South Africans -

  1. Those who are courageous enough to speak their minds, and since 1994 in particular about black on white attacks and killings.
  2. Those 'hyper-religious Christians' who believe in the power of prayers and God's Word and Will. Reading their Bibles, praying and going to church are all they ever do.
  3. Those 'cowards' who play monkey see nothing, hear nothing, speak nothing, and do nothing until they become victims. Then they move to the first or the second group.

The Liberals

The supporters of the Red October Movement have coined a name for those who don't agree with them: "Liberals" or "Liptards".

Liberals allege that whites are not the only victims of heartless criminals. According to their records people of all cultures are being attacked and killed by brutal criminals who are uncontrollable due to ineffective law enforcement. They blame the government - the corruption, incompetence and mismanagement of funds on all levels of government and management.

While conservatives and liberals argue about the true motivation of relentless criminals, the government is as still as the grave, apparently unaware of the fact that silence gives consent.

Some journalists allege that white South Africans have nothing to cry about. Whites still have all the privileges they have had during Apartheid - houses, jobs, cars, churches, schools, etc., and those who have lost some of it can only blame themselves. While the majority blacks are still where they were during Apartheid - without proper houses, without proper education, without basic comforts like electricity.

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A problem without a solution?

Fact is: Unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being is MURDER and against the law.

Uncontrollable, relentless and heartless criminals is one of the many PROBLEMS in South Africa that has to be solved rather sooner than later. The government has another word for problems, namely challenges. Who is supposed to meet this challenge, and how?

My idea:

  • The government, by creating jobs and an effective juridical system.
  • Parents and teachers, by teaching children proper values and attitudes.
  • All citizens, by loving their fellow-man as they love themselves.

Back to the supporters of Red October -

One of the questions I have asked at the Red October event: "What will happen if we demonstrate our feelings about the killing of our people by doing something truly positive, like sponsoring the education of ten or more poor black children. After all, a proper education does suppress, and even kill, a normal person's primitive tendency to hate, steal and kill."

I am still waiting for a response!

Farm murders in South Africa Part 1 of 2

Farm murders in South Africa Part 2 of 2

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gmwilliams 3 years ago from the Greatest City In The World-New York City, New York

Wrong is wrong. Apartheid was wrong but since apartheid has been abolished, there SHOULD NOT be any revenge killings nor any other form of racism towards the Caucasian population of South Africa. Two wrongs DON'T make a right. An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Time to stop the inane madness. Humankind HAVE to move beyond artifical racial/ethnic boundaries if it going to advance as a species!


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billybuc 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

Thank you for speaking out, Martie....well done. Whether it be in South Africa or the United States or any other country, murder is murder no matter what face you put on it. Demonstrations like this one are so important in bringing an end to the barbaric activity.


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

gmwilliams, thank you, I agree wholeheartedly with you. In this day and age no humans should behave like barbarians of previous millenniums. But God knows, the government of SA should make education their first priority. But what do they do? Instead of building houses for the poor, and schools, and instead of establishing a culture of work and appreciation for what is and could be if everyone put their heart into developing the country and its people, they live like gods, building mansions for themselves, while their people are suffering the consequences. God knows, South Africa is in dire need of True, Qualified and Effective leaders. And BTW, the president has told his followers that He and the ANC is God and those who don't vote for them will go to hell. Now I am asking you, how can any country have a future with leaders like this? And I better bite my tongue, because they are trying to make it illegal to criticize the president!!!!


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Aauuww, Billybuc, seeing those balloons disappearing in less than a minute out of sight, was such an eye-opener. I think we should rather build our hope on a brand new continent rising from the ocean, and a brand new opportunity to start all over.... (I will dream on....)


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mckbirdbks 3 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

Hello Martie. "What a powerful voice you have."

"Better to be heard." You say.

I think I hear a voice worth listening to.


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teaches12345 3 years ago

I had no idea this was going on in this country. How horrible. It doesn't matter what color, race, etc. you are, we all deserve respect as fellow humans. I am glad there is a formed voice to bring awareness to this important issue.


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Nellieanna 3 years ago from TEXAS

Oh my. Obviously what needs opposing is murder BY anyone OF anyone, along with governmental tolerance or encouragement of the same. It's simply wrong.

If it happens that the murder victims belong to a certain group and the perpetrators belong to outlaws within a certain group, then, of course the murderers in the groups involved are - INVOLVED - in the crime. It's not a racial issue of its own in any real way.

It still requires opposition to murder and mayhem perpetrated by persons on persons. It's wrong regardless of any color or race involved in it, but if there's a representation of one racial grop over the other, than that's just a fact, like any other in backgrounds of murderers and their victims.


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marcoujor 3 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

Well articulated with logic, sound information and necessary awareness raising, dear Martie.

You and those you love are in my prayers every day for safety and security in a system where things are so out of kilter.

Thank you and love you, Maria


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Nellieanna 3 years ago from TEXAS

grop = group

than = then

Where, oh where DOES the spell-check get their ideas - and why? :-/ They can take a perfectly good word and change it into a non-word or a wrong word.


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Sunshine625 3 years ago from Orlando, FL

This hub is another reason you are the SAA. Have your voice heard, your people need you! Well done Martie!


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Kimmie Thompson 3 years ago

Very insightful Martie and oh so sad to see your beloved country filled with so much hate and anguish. The whole world seems to be going down a jagged path of hate .You have covered this subject so well, allowing us to understand what is going on in South Africa. Murder in any sense is wrong. Thank you for sharing and alerting us to the fragile and grave problems South Africa faces everyday. I pray a solution will be met soon without many more deaths.


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DDE 3 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

As a South African I have lost interest in my country thus my reasons for living so far away, too much killing of the innocent people and this will go on the crime has risen, people have to watch their backs just going shopping that is not life for any human being, so sad to see such a beautiful country go the DOGS! I didn't know about this day


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prasetio30 3 years ago from malang-indonesia

Beautiful. Just looking at the pictures, especially the reds balloons makes me happy. Thanks for writing and sharing with us. I love the video as well. VOTED UP :-)

Prasetio


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tillsontitan 3 years ago from New York

I hope the red balloons raise the awareness of everyone! I hate to repeat what has already been said but MURDER is MURDER, doesn't matter who the perpetrator is or who the victim is.

The world today is falling deeper and deeper into depravity. The rich are taking over the ruling of all countries with no care or concern for their brothers and sisters. "Let there be peace on earth"...you are certainly doing what you can Martie and for this we admire you and back you!

Voted up, useful, awesome, interesting, pinned and shared.


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Angela Kane 3 years ago from Las Vegas, Nevada

We need to stop ALL the murders in South Africa. My main concern is the native South Africans. I want to stop the murders and rapes among them the most. I don't mean diminish the crimes against whites in South Africa, but most of these current issues would not be happening if there was a greater effort made after apartheid to create a better community for those effected. Everyone in South Africa did a poor job of making the country a better place to live which includes the population to the government.


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bravewarrior 3 years ago from Central Florida

Martie, killing is wrong. Period. The whites in America have also become the minority. Rights are given to what used to encompass the minority, that aren't afforded to the Caucasian population. The illegal immigrants have even more rights than the natural born citizens. But, as far as I know, the killing of races just because of the color of their skin, has diminished from what it once was.

You take care of yourself and watch your back, my friend!


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AliciaC 3 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

You've described a very sad situation, Martie. When apartheid ended I was so hopeful for the future of South Africa. To see the pendulum spring from cruelty to one group of people to cruelty to another group is horrible. I hope the demonstrations have some effect and that the situation improves. As bravewarrior says, take care of yourself.


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someonewhoknows 3 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

There are those who don't want peace because they can't get what they want without war.Physical or psychological.


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sallybea 3 years ago from Norfolk

&MartieCoetser I wish I could close my eyes and not think about this anymore but I cannot as I still have family living in South Africa. I feel afraid for them and sad that I am separated from them at the same time. I feel regret that I was not able to stay and at the same time I am grateful to you for helping to make people aware of what is going on in South Africa.


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Gypsy Rose Lee 3 years ago from Riga, Latvia

Voted up and interesting. Thanks for making people aware of the wrong that is happening. Sure hope this can be resolves and take care of yourself. Hugs and passing this on.


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Mckbirdbks - thank you for your inspiring comment. They say the pen is mightier than the sword, but in this case it is certainly not. Crime is almost non-existing in our neighboring country, Botswana, because death is still the legal lot of a murderer. Or what else could be the reason?


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Teaches, horrible is the word. Crime and corruption are far more common down here than AIDS. Sadly, this 'formed voice' is considered to be an embarrassment down here, like the tantrums of a naughty child. While criminals have more rights and power than law obiding citizens.


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Nellieanna, these criminals believe that the whites have all the money and luxuries in the country, and therefore they are supposed to be properly mined. With no respect for life they simple see theft and murder as the only way to earn their bread. They are not afraid of the law and prison. They actually see jails as five star hotels. On my facebook timeline is a video of an interview with two criminals. Their perspective on crime is quite logical, though inhuman. Shockingly inhuman!

These spell-checkers remind me of backstabbers :)


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Marcoujor, 'out of kilter' is a most applicable description. Praying is apparently all we have left to do, although it seems to be in vain, like releasing balloons into the air :(


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Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

Hi Martie, I am so sorry this is happening over there. As everyone else has said, killing is killing, simple as that. I am sick of the two faced people around the world who claim that racism is only one way, when we get rid of political correctness then and only then will we start to see the real picture, well done Martie, nell


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Alastar Packer 3 years ago from North Carolina

Dear Martie,

My fervent hope is this insane and wicked situation your country finds itself in will recede and end very soon. Take good care of yourself and loved ones. What are SA's laws concerning self-defense against marauding murderers of the innocent? As to Mr Lloyd's thoughts on what would happen in the US if farmers or anyone else were being cut down so barbarically as in SA, well, the evil murders would stop rather quickly.


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

@ Sunshine625 – Thanks for the vote.... Lol! But to be honest, Linda, I am a born stage manager – and/or – a Master of Ceremonies. (But seldom if ever only a member of the audience.)

@ Kimmie Thompson – I think humans have overdone Gen 1:28. Instead of being fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it and have dominion over..... (and so forth), humans have become parasites eating each other and everything on this planet. In the past, wars, epidemics and natural disasters were able to control human population. Now we have to make ‘crime’ a subordinate of them all, as it is war between good and evil, an epidemic as well as a natural disaster. You are in my thoughts, Kimmie!

@ DDE – indeed, the wild dogs are wreaking havoc. They don’t even mind killing each other. I hope that my grandchildren will get the opportunity to establish their future in another country where peace and harmony are the order of the day :)

@ prasetio30 – Good to see you. Sadly, these red balloons were not supposed to make anybody happy, and the video’s were supposed to make one realizes how difficult it is for white people to be happy in South Africa.

@ tillsontitan – Via laws the Government is trying to stop the rich from exploiting the poor – or let me rephrase: The Government is trying their best to stop foreign capitalists from exploiting the poor – but only to make sure that they - the members of the national and provincial governments – have all the wealth for themselves. All their efforts to keep the poor alive (not even talking about improving their circumstances) are pathetic... er.... excellent demonstrations of idiotism.

@ Angela Kane – Organizations advocating ‘Human Rights’ should be tasked to come forward with a feasible plan. Mmm, such as the building of paradises in space where criminals can live happily forever after. Personally I suggest a thorough wipe-off of all murderers and robbers. To the gas chambers with them all. Of cause, if I could make myself invisible and able to commit murder, I would personally go from gutter to gutter killing them all.

Seriously, the Government should make greater efforts to improve the quality of life and especially in the areas where criminals tend to develop spontaneously.

@ bravewarrior – So ridiculous to regard the rights of immigrants as more important than the rights of legal citizens – taking the bread out of one’s own children’s hands and giving it to strangers. Charity should begin at home.

Targeting the whites is actually a logical approach. If these criminals – who are actually well-known in their communities – target their own people, they will be bullied and killed by bribed mops (Mafia) who regard themselves as the ‘protectors’ of the community. Bless the souls of interfering police officers!

This is truly a very complicated issue!

@ AliciaC – Very SAD indeed! In 1994 all of us, except the skeptics, were filled with good hopes and willing to co-operate, but now, after 20 years, we are facing the tragic results of affirmative actions and the pathetic, ineffective management of unqualified and even uneducated leaders. If some of them are formally educated, their qualifications are sub-standard as local universities and all educational institutions were obliged to lower their standards in order to accommodate the disadvantaged. Here and there is a leader with qualifications obtained (or bought?) at a foreign university with high standards.

Today the inability of leaders to carry out magnificent plans takes the cake – which was NOT the case before – as you will notice when you study SA’s history. Under British rule and in between and thereafter under all white governments until 1994, all plans were carried out with diligence. Today BRIBERY and no effective communication between involved sectors turn all plans and projects into vast failures at the expense of law-abiding tax-payers.

@ someonewhoknows – I believe crime, like war, is the easiest solution to a problem and therefore always chosen by the less-intellectual aka idiots.

@ sallybea – I can imagine your mixed feelings. My advice: Consider yourself lucky and focus on YOUR present and future. Worrying about your family down here will not solve any problems, but only bereave you from the opportunity to make the best of YOUR life. After all, we are all individuals responsible for our own peace and happiness. I am keeping my doors locked, I try to avoid danger and I keep my mind over matters. Whatever matters coming my way are for me to handle to the best of my ability. And, of course, I appreciate the love, empathy, encouragement and support of my friends and fellow-man.

Be happy, Sally! Stop regretting your decision to make the best of your life. Just do it: Make the best of your life!

@ Gypsy Rose Lee – Hope for the best!

@ Nell Rose – I have forgotten to add the Red October Press Release. Just added and here it is as well - http://www.redoctober.co.za/media/

“A stick is quickly found to beat a dog with’ – I honestly see words like ‘racism’ and ‘racists’ as sticks to beat a dog. Not that I see the victims as ‘dogs’, but certainly those WHO are using the ‘sticks’ do.

“Like attracts like.” There was a time when race/color, religion and politics were weaved into this saying. Nowadays brains attract brains and/or hearts attract hearts.

@ Alastar Packer – Our government don’t see the murder of defenseless whites as abnormal; they regard it as just important... err..... UNIMPORTANT than any other murder. It is against the law and that’s that. Procedures... procedures... procedures.... to be followed.

When.... err.... IF caught, the guilty will have a fair trial and sentenced to prison IF sufficient evidence of their guilt were submitted. The problem lies in ‘catching them’, and the providing of authentic evidence – and here the Police is apparently bribed, victimized or totally incapable. Once in prison there are many legal ways of reducing the sentence. And so the criminals find themselves very soon free again to rob and kill until they get caught and sentenced again.

Although brutal criminals are the minority, they are causing the worse emotional pain and anger. Human rights or no human rights, if I were the judge I would have sentenced them all to death. Or to a place where they will never be able to inflict pain/suffering on any other living beings. It has been proven over and over again that corrective procedures and actions are wasted on them. They are beyond redemption.

Here is an interview with two criminals. See for yourself what I mean with beyond redemption –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjSUnv1SHmo


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Alastar Packer 3 years ago from North Carolina

Dear Martie,

Since I've seen you use the band REM's videos I'll use two of their song titles as analogies. Your Perfect Circle hopefulness has turned into an Orange Crush hell. It has been scientifically proven, and I stress scientifically, that by their thoughts alone a small group of people in unity were able to significantly reduce terrorism around the world for a certain period of time.

But when a people of any race, creed, religion etc are targeted for malicious, illegal, morally repungent evil and killing, and all efforts for peace, harmony, and effective justice have been exhausted and proved useless and hopeless through whom or whatever, then those people are most regretfully left only two choices if they must remain in such a place..


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Alastar, please give me those two choices in words. Let me try to explain why even the last choice - but praying - is by now only a blade of grass to hold onto until God knows when. These criminals are like viruses... (Contemplating a deadly influenza virus.).You will catch it, or maybe you will not. Prevention is better than cure, but no prevention is 100% secure :(

Please check the image of an email I just posted at the bottom of the hub - a reaction on the Red October Press Release.


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Alastar Packer 3 years ago from North Carolina

Precious lady, I have not the wisdom nor the words to bring you answers or succor in you and your countries time of need, so must go now and let another from our history - the venerable and wisdom-filled Cherokee chieftain, Attakullakulla - make this plea from me to ALL your Nation's people:

“I am come to see what can be done for my people, who are in great distress. As to what has taken place, I believe it has been ordered by the great Master above. He is the father of the whites and Indians: as we all live in one land, let us all live as one people.”


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Thanks, Alastar. We can but only hope that Good will eventually prevail....


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Genna East 3 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

What a horrible situation…truly horrific. This recalls the brutal barbarism of apartheid all over again –and my heart cries for the victims. Martie, more powerful pens like yours, demonstrations, and public outcries are needed to bring the attention of these atrocious crimes to the world. This must be heard. Voted up and shared.


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Genna, still blaming apartheid after its demolition 20 years ago for all current wrongs, is just as ridiculous as Zimbabwe's habit of blaming British Imperialism for all the current wrongs and poverty in their country after being independent since 1980. Yes, we can easily say that whites are now reaping the bad fruit of the seed they have sown during Apartheid, but then, I ask you, why did the British not reap similar bad fruit after their horrific deeds during British Imperialism (in SA), and why haven't the Jews turned into brutal criminals after the pain that was inflicted on them by the Germans? And will America perhaps admit that 9/11 was a well-deserved punishment?

Blaming the past for the problems (challenges) of the present is a negative way of approaching a problem. Apartheid was but only 'legal' in SA, while it was - and still is - a common social issue in all countries.

You know the practice of Apartheid was one of those horrible acts in the name of Christianity, based on how many 'laws' in the Old Testament. Fortunately I was raised by parents who were able to see the wrongs in Apartheid - not in separate and independent development as such, but in bereaving others from enjoying all available facilities and opportunities, and in exploiting human resources.

Talking about the latter - is exploiting human resources not exactly what is currently happening when our children are recruited by foreign countries to be servants doing all the dirty work? Our children have no rights in those countries, only a permit to work for a period of time. They are living 'apart' from the legal citizens in the sense that they have no right to utilize all available opportunities - unless they obtain a specific permit.

But this is beside the point.

Let's face it, Genna, whatever the reason may be, brutal murderers are wreaking havoc in South Africa. They are targeting in particularly white farmers, the mothers (feeders) of our country. At the end of the day the poorest of the poor, including the criminals who are obliged to steal and kill in order to survive, will be the first to become beggars relying on charity provided by sympathetic foreigners, as they will not be able to afford imported food. So the killing of farmers in SA should be seen as an International problem to be solved as soon as possible.

Thank you so much for your profound comment, which has given me the opportunity to share more of my thoughts about this issue. I appreciate your encouragement with all my heart :)


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Genna East 3 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

Martie; I hope you don't think I was blaming Apartheid for this; I was comparing the brutality. In any cutlure, all over the world, this is possible, and that is what is so heartbreaking.


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Genna, thanks for the clarification. I was not sure about that specific sentence, but the truth is that many people tend to blame Apartheid for everything that is currently wrong, so you've given me the opportunity to express my perspective on this blaming business and using the wrongs of the past to justify the wrongs of the present. I have seen your comment as positive and encouraging, thanks again :)


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drbj 3 years ago from south Florida

My heart aches for you, dear Martie, that you are living in your beloved country during such disastrous and unspeakably dangerous conditions. In the U.S. we complain about greedy politicians and do-nothing law makers but our law enforcement system still functions ... most of the time.

Please take very good care of yourself and your family and stay healthy and safe. My prayers and thoughts are with you.


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

My dearest drbj, thank you so much for keeping us in your prayers and thoughts.

This was my comment on an article that was published today - I am copying it here, as I don't know if it was approved or not -

I agree with you - ALL South Africans are victims of brutal criminals, and true, more black women and children than whites are being killed at an alarming rate. However, the Red Balloon Movement was more than only the mourning of white 'genocide' - and this controversial term can easily be justified when you compare the white population, the number of killings and the death rate of previous wars with each other.) Red Balloon was also about many other wrongs that are being committed against the whites, and thoroughly justified according to our constitution. (As you may understand when you read the Red Balloon's press release.) Personally I will support all groups who have the guts to launch a peaceful protest against crime in SA. Bribery and the victimization of black police officers by mops of criminals are perhaps the main reason why criminals have become more powerful in destroying this country than inefficient and ineffective political leaders. If Red October has managed to raise awareness of all crime and horrible killings in SA, then they were more successful than they have hoped to be.

The article - (critic on Red Balloon) - http://voices.news24.com/kameel-premhid/2013/10/re...


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Genna East 3 years ago from Massachusetts, USA

Thank you for that comment, Martie. I also agree with drbj; our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family, and that you all remain safe.


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Mr. Happy 3 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Thank You for raising awareness on this issue. Not an easy topic to discuss ...

As everyone else here would agree, killing each other is never going to solve anything. It just breeds more resentment and hatred.

I think what is sometimes missed is the context of all this anger, which displays itself in senseless killings. For the most part, whites have gone and made colonies all over this planet and committed many atrocities from the Belgians in Africa to the Spaniards in the Americas.

These things did not happen a thousand years ago, they are still quite fresh in the memory of many people. And I can think of the South African miners shot by police last year was it? Such incidents only strengthen the resentment towards foreign corporations, whites and so on - it creates generalizations: "whites are bad", type of thing.

Oppression fuels anger and violence and in turn, the oppressed turn into an oppressor. The story in Africa as I see it ...

I wish people will be able to live with the past and not live in the past.

Will share.

All the best!


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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

Martie, God sees who is doing what to who, and He is angry and sooner or later He will settle the injustice, hatred and murders of those who do not follow His comandments... and end the life of those who believe they are mighter than He.

You have a lot of courage to write this.

Stay safe!


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Shyron E Shenko 3 years ago

Martie, God sees who is doing what to who, and He is angry and sooner or later He will settle the injustice, hatred and murders of those who do not follow His comandments... and end the life of those who believe they are mighter than He.

You have a lot of courage to write this.

Stay safe!


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Eiddwen 3 years ago from Wales

Thumbs up for you Martie 'a very powerful hub and I always have the utmost respect for someone who isn't scared of speaking her mind. I learnt so much from reading this hub and it is important to learn about the ways of others who live in various countries. You era wonderful teacher Martie. Voted up and shared onto A Brand New Dawn.

Eddy.


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

@ Genna East – Thank you so much. It feels good to know that others are concerned about us and praying and hoping with us that all South Africans will soon be delivered from the evil criminals among us.

@ Mr. Happy – Thank you for your encouraging comment. Regarding the miners that were shot: Two policemen and security guards were killed by those striking miners a day or two before the shooting, and now nobody seems to remember that. Not that this tragedy justifies an organized attack by the police, but in self-defense it is a different story.

Sadly, the strikers, the hooligans among them, and even uninvolved mops that goes from strike to strike to wreak havoc – are extremely violent, destroying for the sake of destroying. The organizers of these strikes seem to know nothing about economy. The higher the salaries the less can be employed – unemployment is a major problem down here, instigating crime and more crime. I must also add that I have my doubts about the skills and qualifications of top managements in this country. The salaries of top management are totally ridiculous, even in insolvent sectors of the government. Such a mess! May they all be blessed with wisdom and tons of knowledge :(

Here is a video of the shooting at the Marikana mine -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...

@ Shyron E Shenko – the irony in God sees WHO is doing what to WHOM and He will punish the wrong-doers can very easily mean that God has seen the wrongs we whites had done during the Apartheids regime, when we had hold on to some of his commandments while not understanding the rest, and now we are receiving the punishment we deserve. I really hesitate to think about God and his justice when I try to come to terms with any kind of disaster.

But yes, when we study the history of mankind we can clearly see a pattern – What is, was and will be and somehow we all manage to find the strength to live until we die.

Thank you so much for your supporting comment :)

@ Eiddwen – When we know what goes on in other countries, we can evaluate and appreciate our own country and circumstances better. I, for instance, consider the cold in Canada just as dangerous and unpleasant as the criminals we have down here. Therefore I appreciate our lovely whether with all my heart.


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btrbell 3 years ago from Mesa, AZ

Having spent 12 years in the controversial state of Israel can almost relate. At least to the hatred and blatant murder. I must say though, that government support was different and the citizens were most definitely physically involved. What a very sad world we live in where hatred but only exists but seems to be encouraged. Thank you for sharing this. Up++ and sharing


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Thanks, btrbell, for your supportive comment. I've read Leon Urus' captivating books, 'Exodus' and can't remember the title of the other one.... I could see the similarities... We can but only know that peace and harmony are not meant to be... Humans' greed and obsessive urge to possess land and wealth will always lead to disastrous clashes :(


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Pamela99 3 years ago from United States

Marty, I am so glad that you wrote about this situation. Murder is murder and there is no other explanation that is acceptable. I didn't realize South Africa still had such serious problems and I think you did a marvelous job of carefully explaining the situation. It is a shame that people cannot move forward beyond the injustice of the past. Thank you for writing this article to increase awareness. Up and sharing.


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RTalloni 3 years ago from the short journey

The horrible violence in that beautiful place is heartbreaking. Starting conversations about it is important--thank you.


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Thank you, Pamela. I must add that many of the Red Balloon supporters are racists, forcing the rest of us to step back and wash our hands. These racist are most probably the reason why the government simply wash their hands..... Why would the government care about low-class whites (racists) who demand to be treated with respect when they're not willing to treat any others, except their own kind, with respect? And more ridiculous: these racists call themselves Christians!

Thank you for your encouraging comment, Pamela :)


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

RTallonni, starting conversations is always the beginning of a successful mission. Thanks for reminding me of this.


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Faith Reaper 3 years ago from southern USA

Oh ...Dear Martie,

I remember you once mentioning such horrors to me and I love you for being so courageous to write about such to bring about conversations as to the hatred, evil and greed in the hearts of men, and then to have a government who does not protect its own citizenry ... and for the citizenry to not stand up and speak out and fight back about such atrocities ... I have no words! My hope is that this article goes around the world many times to bring awareness. I am sharing everywhere I know to share.

I am also keeping you, dear brave one, in my thoughts and prayers, and your family, for protection against such evil that is running rampant in this world.

Much love to you and yours,

Faith Reaper


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Faith Reaper, I have posted two more articles about this issue. I don't really see any light in this tunnel; I feel kind of lost in a labyrinth. Here is a link to an article about the results of this Red October "March". Thank you so much for your support :) http://martiecoetser.weebly.com/1/post/2013/10/why...


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Faith Reaper 3 years ago from southern USA

I will go to your site precious heart.

Hugs, Faith Reaper


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Faith, I've seen your comment. Will reply in a couple of hours. After sleep. (2:00am down here.) I was away on holiday and now (sadly) back to fall into the rut again :)


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nighthag 3 years ago from Australia

Wow

This was a potent and educational read, I knew that some deaths had occurred but I hadn't realised the true depth of this problem

Thanks for sharing it, I will post this one on


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa Author

Nighthag, I must emphasize the fact that these criminals are not necessarily racists, but downright murderers with no respect for any living beings and their property. They are inhuman, blaming the Apartheid Regime for their inhumane deeds.... And then I cannot help but look at the Jews and even to white South Africans who haven't turned into heartless murderers and thieves after severe suppression - not counting sociopaths. So let's realize that these criminals are sociopaths in dire need of psychiatric treatment.


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PegCole17 2 years ago from Dallas, Texas

This is an incredibly sad and horrendous situation with leaders who think only of themselves and let murderous actions go unpunished against any color or race. We're seeing a lot of things here in the US that reflect the changes in the demographics of our population.

I can relate to your statement, "So ridiculous to regard the rights of immigrants as more important than the rights of legal citizens – taking the bread out of one’s own children’s hands and giving it to strangers", with so many coming across the borders who seem to have more rights than tax paying citizens.

My heart goes out to you in your situation and I pray for your safety and well being.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Thank you, Peg. We can but only hope for the best, even while we don't see a light at the end of the tunnel :(

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