Religion, Politics & A House Divided

A house divided against itself cannot stand - Abraham Lincoln 1858

Abortion, equality, fairness, discrimination, immigration, reverse discrimination, evolution, taxes, history, God – there's barely anything that can be argued about that hasn't become part of the political dialogue. Even factual information can have a Tea Party, Republican or Democratic interpretation that is dramatically different. And these disagreements are rarely friendly but characterized by much certainty on each side with frequent disdain for those with opposing views. Many have remarked that at no other time have they seen such ugly divisions in the country – it is no wonder that so many recall Lincoln's observation about a house divided.

Religion in US politics comes close to challenging division between church and state. Nine religious symbols of the world's major religions are shown in the image.
Religion in US politics comes close to challenging division between church and state. Nine religious symbols of the world's major religions are shown in the image. | Source

Religion increasingly important in politics

The ossification of public opinion and beliefs in the past decade is a topic that deserves close examination, however it may not be a coincidence that some of those who had previously been described as a silent majority found their voice and became a vocal and important minority often associated with strong religious beliefs.

The Evangelicals and Christian Right played an important role in Bush's elections in 2000 and 2004; and, in all likelihood, Bush owed his 2000 election to this Christian support. Religion or specifically held religious viewpoints have played an increasingly important part in our politics in this century.

The Tea Party

The Tea Party drew and still draws its support from these same core white groups with strong Christian beliefs. The results of a Pew Research Center study of February 2011 supports this widely held view.

Religion and social issues

And, this group, perhaps not surprisingly, has regarded social issues as being particularly important in influencing the way they vote; the same research makes this clear when it cites influences on views of abortion and homosexuality.

Although there were many Tea Party members who were not familiar with the conservative Christian movement, the large majority of them shared the same strong views on social issues.

Democrats just as fervent in their beliefs

On the other hand or on the other side are a core group of Democrats who are just as fervent in their beliefs despite their lack of religious motivation or, often, because they interpret Christianity differently. They view Republicans and Tea Party backers in as aggressive a manner as they are viewed. And the split is emphasized by elements of race and racism; many Democrats viewing a number of Republicans and members of the Tea Party as being motivated by racism and their unhappiness at having a Democratic black president. Also some Democrats seem to share many of the views we associate with liberation theology's beliefs - particularly ideas of social justice.

The Great and Bitter Divide

And each side is as certain in their certainty as the other. If there was a clear geographic divide such as a river or even a clear line of latitude between the two groups, it would not be surprising to hear mumblings of secession.

Whatever our perspective or political allegiance, we would be regarded as naïve if we pretended that strong religious beliefs have not played an important and even crucial role in all of the important elections of the past decade. And perhaps none of the above would be particularly remarkable if it wasn't for the great divide between the two solitudes.

It is a remarkable split because the debates engender so much bitterness. Ironically, the Constitution was meant to anticipate such disagreements with the notion of the division between church and state. Religion and politics are a poor mixture and even once profoundly Catholic countries take pains to separate the two powers, for instance. And the tendency for almost all democracies has been to become increasingly secular. France, historically a Catholic country, in 2004 passed legislation prohibiting all overtly religious dress and signs -- including Muslim head-scarves, Sikh turbans, Jewish skullcaps and large Christian crosses.

What does Jesus Christ say about the poor and poverty?

And Christians who seek advice from Jesus regarding their political involvement are not going to receive many overt suggestions. The least ambiguous is to: “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s.” However, Jesus' sentiments and beliefs are made often made clear; his sympathies clearly lay with the poor and oppressed rather than the rich and powerful. And nowhere is this made clearer than in his Sermon on The Mount.

Perhaps Christ's teachings can be found most intact in liberation theology which seems the closest attempt to make Christian principles a political theology. It is based on interpreting Jesus' teachings as a call to fight for liberation of the poor from unjust social, economic and political conditions. Philip Berryman described the movement as “an interpretation of Christian faith through the poor's suffering, their struggle and hope, and a critique of society and the Catholic faith and Christianity through the eyes of the poor.”

Does God approve of the Law of Attraction and wealth?

Historically many Christians did see the contradiction between the wealth of the Church and individual wealth versus Jesus' teaching but accepted it. After the Bible was translated and more became educated, the contradiction between the holding of great wealth and Christ's teachings became even more apparent – and individuals and the Church have had to continue to develop arguments to defend themselves against the charge of hypocrisy.

One article is actually entitled The Bible Law of Attraction and Wealth. It claims that: “God desires all of us to become abundant in all things. There's no question, God prefers all of us to live an abundant life and also have wealth in all things.” The article is not atypical in its claims, although it will strike many as being very dogmatic and somewhat presumptuous in interpreting God's message in this way. Also, it is in direct contrast to the Church's teaching of a century ago when the poor were being told to put up with their lot since their reward would come later in heaven!

Liberation theology's interpretation of Jesus Christ's teachings is in stark contrast to the political interpretation of his teachings found in the US where the Tea Party seems particularly fixated on taxing corporations and the rich as little as possible. Laws of attraction and other schemes abound and justification for Christians accepting them are typified in such arguments as “All you have to do is ask God for the things you want, which would enable you be where or who you want to be in life. Matthew 7:7 says, “Ask and you will receive…”

Three Choices

There seem to be at least three distinct ways of interpreting Christ's teaching in the area of politics:

  1. The church has no business meddling in politics

  2. Christians should intercede and fight on behalf of the poor and underprivileged

  3. Christians believe in the status quo where wealth and power seem to be distributed in a reasonably fair way

Certainly there are numerous other positions along the spectrum; however there does seem to be some distinct viewpoints. And certainly some extremely wealthy Christians in the first and last groups may not believe in regressive taxation but donate more to charity than they ever would have to in taxes -- so no generalization can apply to all individuals in any of these groups.

Whether it is correct or not, there are generalizations that are made about both the Christian right and the Tea Party. And perhaps one of the most persistent is that there is a strong belief in the status quo of yesteryear more than today as well as a strong belief that taxing the wealthy is wrong for a number of reasons including the notion that it is a form of wealth redistribution.

Race

Whether polls seek the public's views on politics and many other issues, usually the polling agency will establish whether the race of the respondents have a baring on their answers. The Pew research makes it clear that race does play some part in the way we vote, and this is no less true of Christians than any others. Some Democrats have made much of how Republicans have used coded racist messages to attract those who are drawn to such messages. The topic deserves much discussion when raised in a Christian context but only receives a passing mention here rather than to further complicate the debate of religion's place in US politics.

Wealth and Christianity

There are many Biblical quotes that sound alarms and warnings about wealth and positions on social views; however, perhaps one of the most sobering thoughts for anyone who believes that the niceties of human society will be maintained in any after-life should come from some of Christ's last words that were spoken to a lowly thief who seemed to repent his sins and rebuke the other thief who was being crucified: "I tell you the truth today you will be with me in paradise" (Luke 23:43).

We use religion to support rather than challenge our views and behaviors

It seems that many take from the Bible those things that are convenient and support their views rather than those things that make them uncomfortable and challenge their comfortable lives. Stories of Christ usually put him in the position of someone who challenged the status quo and beliefs that were comfortable; perhaps these stories suggest the political positions he would take in today's world.

The Church and its members have always had difficulty justifying the holding of great wealth and it is noteworthy that many proud religious supporters of the right have no trouble dealing with the troublesome question of wealth. There has been a seismic shift in American culture. What has changed that now makes it so much easier for Christians to feel that amassing and holding on to wealth is a political stance or personal decision that does not contradict many of Christ's teachings?

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Tony DeLorger 5 years ago from Adelaide, South Australia

Oh, where to start Sem. Religion has nearly always been a deciding factor in politics; the reason? Because those beliefs were held by the majority and therefore were worth exploiting. I like the story of the man who finds a large sum of money. Not knowing what to do he decides that he should throw the money in the air. What God wants he can take; what falls to the ground remains his. There's not much of a mystery about human beings- we are, if nothing else, predictable. Great hub Sem. I always enjoy them.


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Hi Tony: You are quite correct in describing us as predictable. In a culture that attaches so much importance to individualism, there is a frightening amount of conformity. But more to the point, we are quite predictable in the way we will misbehave when given the opportunity. And often those in the position to exploit religion have found it hard to resist that particular temptation.

I think the greatest challenge is not to fall victim to total cynicism in light of our poor record.

Certainly exchanging notes after reading and writing hubs seems to help keep the black dog in check. Thank you for your kind and friendly comments.

As ever, Sem


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Mr. Happy 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

You make a good carpenter Mr. Sembj. You nailed this one in masterfully. That second last paragraph is critical. I am thinking of printing it and sending copy to every church in the world.

Wise words with a clear view of our surroundings. All the very best!


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Thanks Mr. Happy for the words of encouragement. And it is a shame that people don`t recognize that Jesus is portrayed as something of an iconoclast.

All the best to you too, kind sir!


THAT Mary Ann 5 years ago

Thanks for clarifying that we have our own religious extremists right here at home. Too often that terminology is used by Americans to describe people of faiths or beliefs outside of the so- called Judeo-Christian ethic. Too many people have been killed in the name of some form of "god" so we need to keep faith and politics pure and separate. Thanks for driving this point home so well.


Fay Paxton 5 years ago

Another excellent hub Sembj. When I consider the hub I just wrote and a few I read before I came to yours, I'm beginning to think the American psyche is examining the many conflicts of our nation.

I certainly believe one should be guided by their religious beliefs in their personal life, but when it comes to government and politics...we are a multicultural mix of believers and non-believers and the government should reflect as much. A hard row to hoe for sure. I suppose in the final analysis, principles and politics just don't mix very well.

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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast)

Hello, Sem Thanks for this stimulating article. TRUE Christianity is radical, we have made it painless and comfortable like ones bedroom slippers. If we use the scriptures as a guide, 95% of practitioners are CINOs. This comes from both the left and right of the ideological chasm. I have been cured of my writers block for the moment. I have wanted address some of these things that you speak of here.

Ultimately, the conflict is between the haves and have nots and has been such since the time of the Pharoahs. We all spend a great deal of energy concocting organization and political stands so that the crassness of the ultimate goal appears less so.

It was said that Jesus whipped the money changers from the temple, as they were defiling the meaning of true worship. Today's money changers are corporate america. How is it that evangelical christians find an alliance with such an amoral entity justifiable, without embracing a certain hypocrisy? This is what is seen in the Tea Party


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Hi Credence2: Thank you for all of the interesting and useful comments you make.

I could not agree more with all of your points and would even suggest that the money changers were a lot more open and transparent compared to corporate America who often hide their lies and deceptions through elaborate ruses as well as the use of small print.

And those who have held power and wealth have always had to give reasons to those who were poor and supported them - religion in many cultures worked well since it helped justify the status quo while threatening the wrath of the gods or a God to any who challenged the system.

I look forward to what you have to say on the topic. It is a very large one that always deserves attention. It has received a fair amount over the centuries but despite all of the arguments neither the churches nor many wealthy supporters see any contradiction between their wealth and Christ's teaching.

What is encouraging is that some with wealth acknowledge the contradiction and view their wealth in a refreshing way. Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream seem to have found many useful and creative ways of sharing rather than keeping their wealth, for instance. I am not sure whether the motivation for using wealth for good was because of humanitarian or religious convictions but I am sure there are many other similar examples where those with wealth have used part of it for good because of religious convictions. Certainly there are Christians who would not deserve the charge of hypocrisy when it comes to wealth.

Perhaps the topic does not get discussed enough or honestly enough because it remains so uncomfortable. It is difficult to believe that all Christians do not understand at some level the contradiction between wealth and Christ's teaching.

Live long and well!


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Hi Fay:

Thank you for your thoughts. And I realize that one of the many articles that stimulated mine was your excellent hub "Tea Party Ordure...Mean, Myopic and Misguided"!

I don't think you mentioned religion a great deal in your article on the Tea Party but it seems that it is an important part of their ideology and it is debate that should be happening and getting attention.

What seems rather bizarre is that so many poor people have been persuaded by rich people that they should vote for even less taxes for the rich and it will benefit them in some way.

Perhaps one of your most telling observations is that principles and politics don't mix very well. I suspect that principles don't mix well with either power or money as well as politics. And that is the sad evidence of history - we are a corrupt lot despite what we may think we devoutly belief! And I realize that this sentiment is an echo of the first comment made by Tony.


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Hi THAT Mary Ann: I have just finished reading one of your articles, and feel delighted to receive such a compliment from an eloquent writer who is equally as eloquent in her thoughts. Thank you.


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Mandrake_1975 5 years ago from Pennsylvania

I think the current political atmosphere in the United States today is due to a Christian understanding of the Cultural Mandate that forms the very basis of the Christian worldview.

I would tend to have to agree with others who have written about the Cultural Mandate that we are witnessing a conflict because of pluralism.

If you study the more extreme views of the Christian Reconstructionists and read some of the works of Gary North (one of the chief authors of works on why Christianity promotes and supports capitalism) I think it becomes quite evident as to what the root cause of this conflict is. Though most Christians do not hold this extreme view, the conflicts and issues raised in the works of some of those more extreme individuals are, in my opinion, at the heart of the matter.

In other words, we are witnessing Christianity being forced by humanism-which in the eyes of the Christians in question refused to hold a happy pluralistic stalemate-to decide exactly what a Cultural Mandate entails - the era of political and religious pluralism is ending.

I know that many humanists do not view what we had for the past 300 years as a happy stalemate of political and religious pluralism, but it is not the hearts and minds of humanists that are the focus of the examination of this article.

In my opninion, and from what I can gather, the progress of the goals of humanism necessarily conflict with many of the views of a vast majority of American Christians by way of certain theological views on the Cultural Mandate.

I base my opinion on my own Christian upbringing and my early support of the Tea Party (pre-Republican Party hijacking), as well as my current research into the core elements of cultures and civilization.


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Hi Mandrake_1975 - Thank you for your analysis. Many countries seem to have made the transition from religious states to secular ones without too much trauma. And some suggest that different education standards as well as curricula may lie behind the sluggish pace of change in the US. What is certain is that the US has remained a nation where more of us declare ourselves to be Christian than almost any other. Further, I suspect that many declare themselves to be Christian without thinking too much why they embrace the faith and what that may mean. I suggest that that speaks volumes about an education system. Perhaps that is an unfair characterization.


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bmalt 5 years ago

Christian involvement in politics is essential: civil authorities, we are told in Scripture itself, are “ministers of God.” Their role, therefore, is every bit as sacred as the role your pastor occupies in the life of your church.

And just as every congregation must choose carefully those “ministers of God” who exercise God-given spiritual authority in church life, so every Christian citizen must choose carefully the “ministers of God” who exercise God-given civil authority in public life.

If the Scripture tells us that politicians are just as much “ministers of God” as our own pastors are, then it follows that we should care as much about those who hold civic authority as we do about those who hold spiritual authority, both are exercising sacred authority given to them by God. Christians should be just as concerned with the one as with the other.


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Thanks for your comment bmalt. As I understand it you are pointing out that Christians have specific responsibilities that they should be mindful of when casting their votes making sure they vote for someone who holds proper Christian views.

I am probably paraphrasing what you are saying badly but I wanted to make certain I understood you properly.

If I have what you are saying then it seems that that is your right to vote accordingly. And I am certain that atheists frequently vote for Christians who hold similar viewpoints on a host of issues.

Many hold similar views for many different reasons and because they may be motivated by many different things.


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Jillian Barclay 5 years ago from California, USA

Dear Semj,

Your last two paragraphs are insightful and well, brilliantly written! And the question you ask at the end is so though-provoking!

I don't have any answers, even though I have thought long and hard about these things. The only thing that I know for sure is that religion has divided us for as many years as the concept of religion has been around. It is Not a good thing!


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Thank you Jillian Barclay for your contribution to the exchange of ideas. I too am unsure of whether I have all of the answers to the question posed at the end of the piece but I hope to write on what I suspect might be some of the answers soon. (Right now I am trying to learn how to put up my own website - it is slow going for me, I am afraid, and I don't get enough time to write!)


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Anne Pettit 5 years ago from North Carolina

A hub that made me think.


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Jillian Barclay 5 years ago from California, USA

Dear Sembj,

I apologize. I have been misspelling your name. Old eyes!


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

No problem Jillian.

Sem


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Old blue eyes?


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loua 5 years ago from Elsewhere, visiting Earth ~ the segregated community planet

Sembj

Here is the germ of the essay that will yield the solutions; when humanity evolves away from this behavior you stated so aptly_ Perhaps one of your most telling observations is that principles and politics don't mix very well. I suspect that principles don't mix well with either power or money as well as politics. And that is the sad evidence of history - we are a corrupt lot despite what we may think we devoutly belief!

Well I believe we are on the same sheet of music; and have the opinion that something must be done if humanity is ever going to get off the dime, and make a clear-break away from its historic propensity for making mistake after mistake based on the false assumptions of deception, deceit and duplicity...

The problem with the logic of group mentality is a presupposed plan, to use the other-guy as a tool for some gain... This logic, or more an illogic justification for self-benefit, puts their subjective equation into default by the shear fact they limit the amount of data elements to disguise their hidden selfish agenda and leave out the actual root cause (selfishness) of their actual desired false solution result...

The result of this sort of subjective analysis logic, which is used by those who wish to control and satisfy some selfish agenda is, you only see what you want to see and miss the problem answer by the degree you limit the data input that reflects the root cause of the problem... This is not rocket science its statistical law of negative attraction - If you take away the balance from an equation you loose the effect of its capacity to yield correct positive solutions... This is a problem in all sciences all the way to the thermodynamic close systems, like nuclear reactors, they behave badly when they involve the open system of the environment they where not designed to contend with... This is pretty much the problem with the human thinking or thoughtless process, they visualize they are operating in a closed loop system when in fact it is and open system that all the variables must be considered as input, if the desire is to solve the problem for a positive inclusive, selfless and civil solution... It is quite, obvious when problem solving is based on exclusive, selfish and evil decisions; it has negative effects and never does get around to solve the problems it points at in all the rhetorical commentary used to describe the problem...


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Thanks loua for all of your perceptive comments. As you rightly guessed, I think we sing not just from the same piece of sheet music but from the same book.

Sometimes I think that I should be writing a hub when I get halfway through writing a comment and you must have felt that at some stage in your musings. Perhaps you can change it into a hub quite easily?

In any event, I think that democracy stopped evolving as we, as a people, became a great deal more materialistic and have actually become less democratic as a result. The next step is to recognize that democracy as it stands serves large corporations because we have handed them the keys.

Let me know when you figure out how we can build a democracy that serves generations that are yet to come rather than the selfish interests of large corporations. I think we have all been outsmarted since there are those who know how easy it is to manipulate us all.

It is sad that we have not done better for those who are yet to come.


Sunnie Day 5 years ago

Dear Semi,

All I can say is WOW!! I will be following more of your hubs for sure.."It seems that many take from the Bible those things that are convenient and support their views rather than those things that make them uncomfortable and challenge their comfortable lives. Stories of Christ usually put him in the position of someone who challenged the status quo and beliefs that were comfortable; perhaps these stories suggest the political positions he would take in today's world."

I love your way of thinking. Thank you and God Bless,

Sunnie


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Hi Sunnie: First, thank you so much for all of your kind words - it makes a great deal of difference hearing from some of those who read what I write. As much as I enjoy the hard work of writing it pales when I compare it with the enjoyment that I derive from hearing the thoughts and response from some of those who read it.

And I agree with the notion that Christ is certainly presented as someone who challenged the status quo - in fact he was such a challenge that he met the fate of most revolutionaries.

Thank you again for your thoughts and kind comments.

Sem


soumyasrajan 5 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA

Hi! Sembj

Enjoyed very much your hub. In the last two paragraphs you say a lot. Essence of teachings of Christ and his compassion are there, quite visible.

Politicians and religious figures are supposed to have that in all their actions. But we see today opposite trends among them -it does not matter which religion or country one thinks about.

At the same time I see among average person in India, USA, Europe many who preserve this right attitude quite a bit (I live in Mumbai but often travel to these countries). That keeps me still quite optimistic.

I think no body is against wealth creation but what one needs is an attitude of detachment. Sort of you observe your own actions also just as a game. That should automatically lead one, even while enjoying comforts or any thing, to have compassion for all.


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Thank you for your comments sourmyasrajan, and I think that we have to look to the average people to find ones of principle since, as you say, they are often not held by those figures who should hold them sacred.

I think that one could oppose wealth creation in certain situations such as those where there is obvious exploitation going on, for instance. Child labor is not something that should be utilized in the creation of wealth, many feel. Also, the financial industry created a lot of `wealth` prior to the economic meltdown and much of that activity was certainly unethical. If persons with ethics wrote laws, there would be many in prison because of all the improper behavior.

In principle, though, wealth creation is a good thing I think we have to understand it to mean something different in the future since the question of sustainability is rarely asked.

I enjoyed your thoughts, thanks.


soumyasrajan 5 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA

I quite agree with you Sembj. One aspect I admired very much in whole management of economy and politics in USA and UK, West Europe is that there was a feeling and an idea of continuously to be on a path, in which family of each working person has a life style with certain minimal standards.

I feel indeed sad that in India we got lost in our path- to be followed after independence in this regard. Honestly trying to implement these ideas were replaced by just false slogans of removing poverty etc. Fortunately at least time being it seems some of those things are back on track and we are just starting this now, which we should have done 50-60 years back.

I always give example of garbage collecting trucks used in USA and other places. While technology development there is admirable, I admire much more a desire in such creation that the driver of that truck is also a human being and in the harsh winter idea was also to provide him tools not to come out of truck.

I also think of Ford, who reduced working hours from 10-12 to 8 and set up finance organizations to give loans for housing or cars to its own employees. He created a lot of wealth but at the same time set up new standards of minimal life styles for workers.

But these ideals today seem to be quite away from minds of western politicians, corporate managers, or even religion leaders. They prefer to create wealth by playing financial games instead of manufacturing. Their tools for wealth creation seems to be using out-sourcing, currency manipulations done by feudal governments in China or oil prices manipulations and terror support being done by feudal rulers or army in countries like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. In one of the articles I wrote on hub pages I wondered whether is it sign of a new dark ages? There are indeed a lot of similarities with dark age of past in Europe.

While you are only talking about only poor I worry more closure home. In the changed circumstances where both partners in a family are now working, there is no time left for children. As a result families a breaking apart. Children do not learn a lot what they ought to. We do not see a Ford today. There is a indeed a need to create NGO's, a movement to reduce working hours in family back to 8-10 (or working hour for each person should be at most 5-6). First need is indeed to bring back the family life. I wish I can do some thing in this respect but I do not have financial means to get into such activities. I hope some people

with means think about it.


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Sourmyasrajan, again you make excellent points and I agree with them all. The idea that companies owe something to their workers who help create the wealth was recognized by Ford and some others who saw the advantage in rewarding their workers - as you note Ford wisely saw that his market was greatly expanded when the working man made a decent working wage that gave him enough to buy a Ford! Too few companies retain that principle and now only wish to reward CEOs and shareholders even at the expense of their own workers.

Also, I think that you raise a very good point when you point to the modern family where, as you say, there is little or no time for the children. There is a sense that the old notions of family are fast disappearing. Regardless, it is difficult to see how notions such as dignity and quality of life can be meaningful when people have to work extraordinary long hours or, sometimes, two jobs to earn sufficient for their families.

Thank you again for your interesting thoughts on this topic.


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Wil C 5 years ago from United States of America

If religion wants to play a part in politics, then they should lose their tax exemption. Why should they wield so much power with influence among their followers along with financial advantage? Separation of church and state is there for a reason. It is to make sure we do not revert back to a theocracy with a monarch telling us what is right and wrong. It goes against everything we stand for. The pilgrims ran from religious persecution and settled here. Why would anyone agree with religion having such an influence in our government? I remember going to a baptism of one of my nephews and the minister was telling people who to vote for. Needless to say, I will never go there again and was disgusted at the use of church goers time to further this ministers agenda. As far as the common man standing up against corporate tyranny, I do not believe we need religion to unite or justify our position. Thanks for the article. Awareness is a gift that should not be ignored.


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Thank you Wil C for all of your observations and comments. I agree with all of your positions.

Best,

Sem


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GNelson 5 years ago from Florida

Liked the hub. I be back.


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Sembj 5 years ago Author

Thanks GNelson

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