Repealing Obamacare

Repealing Obama Care seems to be the subject of many a debate both on the streets and on the news. Tackling this issue will certainly be on the agenda in the new Congress. For many, this will be a top priority. Job creation and growing the economy will be the number one task for Congress but repealing the massive health care bill rates near the top of American’s to do list.

The subject of health care and the elections have been at the forefront of many of the protests around the country for over a year now. Although I don’t pretend to have all of the solutions for the complicated issue of health care coverage, there are a few things that come to mind throughout this debate.

First, we all have to admit that the way that this bill was passed was far from ordinary. When the Speaker of the House says that we have to pass a bill to even know what is in it, this should have given all of us pause. We had people in Congress devising ways to pass the bill without having an open vote.

Remember the Slaughter Solution? Deem and Pass? Reconciliation? The Corn Husker Kickback?

The whole process of passing this bill feels dirty and it has certainly left a bad taste in the mouth of most Americans. Back room deals, kickbacks and secret promises were all part of the package. It sort of stinks, like they had to buy votes. This is no way to pass a bill that encompasses so much. There is too much at stake for that.

We all know that the Democrats totally ignored the GOP and their ideas for reform, going so far as to say that the Republicans didn’t even have any ideas and were, in fact, against the very idea of health care reform. We now know that this was not true. I would venture to say that most Americans, no matter which side of the aisle they ascribe to, are for health insurance reform, just not the monstrous bill that the Democrats shoved through Congress without even knowing what the bill was truly about.

Did we hear any debate about the Republicans ideas? Did you hear anything from Congress about how setting national regulations in place and allowing for Insurance companies to operate over state lines? That simple act alone would encourage competition amongst the top national insurance companies and inevitable keep costs lower. Did the Democrats who pushed for reform ever mention tort reform as a way to keep costs down for the medical community? What we didn’t hear was that the lobbyists for all the lawyers are very powerful and paid huge sums of money to not have this solution included in the bill.

And seriously, what happened to being able to keep your own doctor and your own insurance? New plans call for new doctors. Even seniors have had to give up their doctors to be able to enroll in many of the new plans being offered. Doctors, all over the country, are not accepting new patients on Medicare or Medicaid because of the cuts in the bill. Some have even stopped accepting Medicaid and Medicare payments leaving their patients to pay cash for services.

The Democratic leadership and the White House told us this bill would reduce premiums, medical costs and would help lower the deficit. Sounds too good to be true, doesn’t it? That’s because it isn’t true. Most insurance companies have increased the costs of their premiums. AARP, who was all for this bill, finally caved and had to raise the costs of their premiums too, just to stay afloat. Hospital and doctor’s offices have also increased their prices, partially due to the cuts in Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements which are spelled out in the bill. Days after the bill was passed, the Congressional Budget Office had to admit that the figures boasted about by the backers of the bill were incorrect and that the overall costs would be much greater.

On the White House website there is a video highlighting the advantages of the new health care bill. The video is of a woman who is fighting cancer and who was denied health insurance because her cancer was considered a pre-existing condition. Under Obama Care, she now has health insurance.

She is so very happy because now she doesn’t have to spend her own money or dip into her retirement savings to pay for her medical expenses. So I fully understand why she is happy and I am happy for her.

But somebody has to pay those bills and guess who that somebody is.

Although the video doesn’t explain why she wasn’t previously covered through her employment or her husbands, this was the first thing I wanted to know. She is employed, her husband is employed, and they have a 401k, so what was it that caused her to be uninsured?

Was it a personal choice? Were the premiums too high? Did she just neglect to buy it?

This administration repeatedly told us about the millions of Americans who were not insured. Well, not that they have to, but they neglected to tell us why these folks were uninsured.

Did they choose to not have insurance?

Were they recently unemployed and can’t afford to pay the premiums?

Are they folks who were denied Medicaid coverage because they make more money than the going Medicaid rate allows?

Is it the money? The type of coverage? Neglect?

Maybe they don't want or need coverage?

Knowing why these people were uninsured would greatly help in figuring out the proper way to get them insured. But none of this was even considered.

Nope, we weren’t told the reasons, we were just meant to feel guilty about all of the folks uninsured and led to believe that one size fits all solution is the way to go.

I like things that make sense and I know it isn’t just me that thinks this massive bill doesn’t make any sense. Even the Congressmen voting on the bill admitted that they voted for it without reading it or understanding it. One rep stated that the bill was too hard to read and he couldn’t make sense of it but yet, he voted for it anyway. To me, this is not just nonsense, this is downright stupidity. How dare they pass bills, actual laws of this land, without knowing exactly what they are voting on? How can they consider the long term ramifications of this bill if they don’t even know what changes are planned? Who do they think they are anyway? Do they think this is just sort of joke? The laws they pass affect people. They need to give the notion of passing bills, especially ones that cost this much money and will touch all of our lives, some sort of due consideration. Instead, passing this bill was turned into some sort of popularity contest and guess what? We, the people, lost.

I remember thinking as I saw the result of the vote on Health Care pass, is this the best you can do?  This complicated, convoluted, controlled takeover of our health care is the very best that this Congress has to offer? 

In my opinion, this bill was just the first step toward the goal of a single payer option that would eventually do away with insurance companies and leave the government as the only game in town for insurance, true and total socialized medicine. 

The rhetoric has already started against the Republicans. This past Election Day was quite a wake-up call for Washington and the Democrats.

Although they didn’t run on the merits of the health care bill, I do believe that there will be opposition to many of the changes the GOP has in mind. Many of the same arguments the far left used before are now coming back. In fact, I saw this posted recently by a young woman who claims she is ‘uber’ smart, a law student and an avowed socialist.

“If you voted Republican but are on socialized programs such as WIC, Medicaid, Medicare, EBT/Food Stamps, SOCIAL security...you are mentally challenged and have been watching FOX NEWS way too much...you should look into collecting disability for that...oh wait...”

How ridiculous is thinking like that? How does this help the debate? Does she really think that Republicans do not support any social programs at all? I know the left tried to use this argument last year as well. But it does show us the base mentality of the far left. Statements like this are usually not worth commenting on, but I did simply to highlight the scope of the debate that is coming.

As a law student, I’m thinking this girl should know that the Constitution does not allow the government to force the American people to buy anything. In fact, it expressly forbids it. So, for the Congress and this administration to enforce this bill, they are breaking Constitutional law. That is essentially what will be argued about as this bill makes its way to the Supreme Court.

Almost half of the states have already filed a lawsuit against the federal mandate included in this bill. This could be the best option for overturning the whole bill. The suit can go forward without the threat of a presidential veto that Congress is sure to face. This lawsuit is complicated and I don’t pretend to understand it all, but I do know that the federal government is limited in what they can mandate our sovereign states to pay for, and the healthcare bill certainly steps over that line.

It has never been done before. In fact, a mandate like this has been expressly forbidden in the Constitution. The government has never been given the authority to order the citizens of America to buy anything before. You may think that this isn’t a big deal; but you would be wrong. Here is where things get complicated. We all may need insurance, but the government does not have the authority to make you buy it. Nor do they have the right, by law, to fine you, investigate or imprison you if you fail to do so. Yet, they put these provisions in the bill.

Some of you may believe that having insurance is a necessary thing, and that the government needs to have the right to enforce this policy, as they do with Social Security and Medicare / Medicaid. This health care bill wasn’t set up as a government entitlement program like the sponsored programs of Social Security or Medicare / Medicaid so the comparison isn’t valid. Still some may argue that the government should be able to allow this mandate, just this once, because it is so important. The counter argument to that is myriad.

Have you ever known the government to stop at just one bite? Just like a child, you give them an inch and they will take a mile. Allowing this mandate sets a precedent. In the halls of our court system, once a precedent is made, it becomes the way it is.

So, by this action of ordering all Americans to buy health insurance, they set a precedent. Which means, the next time that the government wants to you to buy something; they can and will just say so. They can simply order all citizens to buy electric cars, energy efficient windows, or Star-Kist Tuna without a care for the will of the people.

One doesn’t have to look far to see that this is true; the best example is the income tax law. The proof is all around us.

As the law stands now, every citizen must buy health insurance. For those who can’t afford it, help is available. This is no guarantee that people will actually do so. It is my opinion that an awful lot of people will just opt out. Sure, the IRS may find them out, but the fine that they will be issued is far less than the yearly insurance premium that they are ordered to purchase. They will only buy the insurance when they find themselves in a position to really need it, when they get sick or when they have an accident. They can’t be turned down so the need for planning for emergencies is gone.

If the Democratic talking points are to be believed, the GOP is against any insurance reform and they just want to kill the bill. Most of know that that just isn’t true. Everyone understands the need for true health care reform but Obama Care isn’t it. Perhaps the answer lies in taking small steps, examining what works and what doesn’t, opening the markets across state lines and certainly addressing the issue of tort reform. Wanting all Americans to benefit from health insurance is what we all strive for. But let’s make it work for everyone. Let’s do it right.

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eovery 6 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

Wow, what a great hub. I enjoyed it

Keep on hubbing!


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DiamondRN 6 years ago from Charlotte, NC USA

Nothing will change until we have legal tort reform; then allow insurance companies to do business across state lines and have people invested in saving money for their own care with percentage co-pays, etc.


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tmbridgeland 6 years ago from Small Town, Illinois

You said it all. I'll be keeping an ye out for future Hubs.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

Welcome eovery, you are quick today. Thanks for being my first visitor and comment. I'm glad you liked it. I feel it is so very important that this gets repealed and a good plan put in action.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

Hello, DiamondRN. Glad you stopped by. Your comments back up my hub and are necessary components to real reform. Thank you so much for your remarks.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

tmbridgeland, Thank you for stopping by. As for saying it all? I don't know about that.....lol. I could have gone on even longer in discussing my opposition to the health care bill. Let's hope the Repealing ObamaCare get some traction in this Congress.


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dahoglund 6 years ago from Wisconsin Rapids

We always had a saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it" I think the first of order of business should be to find what aprts of the health car "system" are broke and then fix those parts. this is largely what, I think the Republicans wanted to do.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

Hi dahoglund. I think the parts of the plan that are good and that will work, will stay in any plan the GOP puts forth. I don't think the GOP is looking at the bill just for the sake of repealing ObamaCare, but rather to offer real solutions that the free market can work with. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.


HSchneider 6 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

The HealthCare Reform Bill is far from perfect but I feel it is a decent start. I do not understand why the system we had is good when it is based on having a job. You lose your job meaning you lose your insurance. One serious illness or accident, you are bankrupt. Don't get me wrong, I do not advocate for free health care. But we must have some kind of a pool that is in this bill. Those would be the state health care exchanges. I am currently unemployed but luckily have money saved. I pay for my health care but it is terribly onerous. I also believe it to be unfair. The insurance companies run the system to be rigged in their favor. Some real competition to them is needed. I do agree with being able to purchase plans across states and legal tort reform is also greatly needed. To be fair to the Democrats, which I feel you are not doing, the Republicans made it an election imperative to be against anything they tried. This left the Democrats being forced to go it alone. I wish it had more Republican ideas with the state exchanges but the Republicans knew they had the best political tactic. We'll see how the lawsuits go. If some states wish to defund it, fine. Let's see how that plays in the long run. I don't understand where this view that if we have our health insurance, no matter how imperfect, then who cares about those that don't. Eventually the U.S. Supreme Court will probably have to get involved. We'll see how it goes. I wrote a Hub on this detailing most of my ideas on this. Take care and let's all keep our jobs so we can have affordable health care and stay solvent.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

HSchneider, Thanks for another look at this. Perhaps the article isn't fair to the Democrats but it is the truth. Honestly, they weren't fair to us, the American people any more than they were to the GOP when they expressed their ideas for reform. This bill is the Democrats baby. Some of it is good, I grant that, but they lied and abused their authority to get it.

You highlight a problem with the way health care is furnished to the American people, through employment. Changing jobs or periods of unemployment can play havoc with insurance coverage. And why do some people only have to pay a fraction of what others pay for the same insurance coverage? These are some of the problems that need real solutions. Not ObamaCare.


rommergrot 6 years ago

I do not believe Obamacare was ever about health care. It is about control. I know several people that are losing their health care because of it. I know at least one Dr. that is leaving the profession if it is fully implemented. Costs are not going down, they are going through the roof. It has already had a negative impact on me personally.

Good post, I hope we can get it fixed, but I believe it should be repealed and we start over with at least a little transparency.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

You got that right rommergrot. It has already affected many of us. I am accused of not being fair to the Democrats who passed this monstrous bill but I really agree with you. It was more about them taking control than fixing the real problems that face us regarding the health insurance industry. I sure appreciate your comments and I am glad you stopped by.


daPuma5 6 years ago

I heard about a company this week that has eliminated healthcare benefits for their employees. The employees didn't hear it from the company; they got standard letters from BCBS citing that their policies had been terminated. I'm sure this has happened more than I've heard. Do you think that the damage Obamacare has already done can be fixed?


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samsons1 6 years ago from Tennessee

I didn't see where anyone even made mention of the 30 million 'new' recipients that the Democrats want added that are receiving FREE healthcare over the rest of us now. That's part of the secrecy and under-handed ways the socialist Democrats thrive on - stick it to the ignorant people...


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

daPuma5, I have heard of that too, and that some Michigan companies were debating whether to even offer health insurance. When the bill is repealed, my hope is that they replace it something worth the paper it is written on. We all know that reform is needed and that Obama still has to sign it, so they will write a bill that hopefully is fair and real reform. Thanks for stopping by and giving us even more insight into the consequences of this bill.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

samsons1, and you won't either until true immigration reform is debated. The Democrats swore that those 30 million weren't covered but now we know better. The lies told to the American people about this bill are staggering. Thanks for adding your comments here.


Texasbeta 6 years ago

Come on, tort reform? Healthcare over state lines? Talk about spouting bumper stickers. What a joke. Tort reform is a lie with regards to health care costs. Study after study over the last 2 decades have proven that states with this proposed tort reform have no dip in costs, or the costs go up. Medical malpractice contribute less than 1/10 of 1% to the health care costs. You are about to have the largest segment of our population on the Medicare and SS rolls, and have no money to cover this. The crisis is a few years away, not decades, and all you conservatives ever come up with is talking points of tort reform (to help your doctor friends) and allowing healthcare to trade over state lines (to help your insurance friends). Neither one will contribute but a fraction to the costs. It is like you just don't care, or don't understand. The same goes with the energy crisis...the conservative answer : offshore drilling. We have enough oil to last 2 months at the most modest of speculation or 2 years at the most with generous speculation. The only benefit would be the oil companies getting more access to more oil to make more of a profit for themselves, but will help us just about as much as your tort reform would cut health care costs. This is ridiculous. Do you people just not care? OR do you just not do your research?


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

Texasbeta , Perhaps it all depends on who’s talking points you are listening to as to how you understand the problems and the solutions.

The Congressional Budget Office, states that if tort reform was enacted, the total national healthcare spending could drop by $11 Billion a year. Granted, it isn’t a total solution and may be a drop in the bucket, but it is a start. Why should it have been ignored? And competition across state lines would drive costs lower not raise rates. So, these so-called friends you say I have would not make huge profits off these simple two additions to the bill.

For you to say that Republicans don’t care is really disingenuous. How high handed and ignorant of you to just fluff away the concerns of more than half of the citizens of this country. No one in their right mind can say that this monster bill is the best possible solution for the health care problems that we face. Why they didn’t make it the best bill it could be is beyond me. I can only surmise that they meant it when they said, just pass the something.

You may want the government in control of the health care of its citizens but that doesn’t make it right or legal. I agree that government must regulate but they should never take over an industry.

You other arguments are also quite one-sided. There is so much oil in America. If Congress really wanted us to not be dependent on foreign oil, we wouldn’t be. Plain and simple. And Congress needs to stop skimming off Social Security before screaming about being broke.

I may disagree with you but I thank you for stopping by and adding an opposing view.


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Wayne Brown 6 years ago from Texas

Absolutely one of your best articles yet, Joni. I applaud you for it. I have something somewhat similar coming next week. I really feel, like you, this initial step is transitional. Eventually, all the insurance companies will be are front office administrators like we see under Medicare Part B provisions. Ultimately they will function at process the paper for payment by the government which is only an extension of the pockets of the taxpayer. This is the structure of how the system operates in the private sector...the corporation are self-insured and the insurance companies provide the administration. In the final analysis, the insurance company does not decide what is covered and what is not, the government will. We have only to look at anything else the government runs to know that we do not want our medical care in the hands of the government. Tort reform is getting a pass here and will probably find it even easier to gain settlements with the government in charge. Again...straight out of taxpayer coffers. For that sector that thinks this is another "freebie" that is too good to be true, I suggest that you wake up and find out who pays for things in America...it is us not the fairy god mother. Ultimately, it does not matter what is in this current package because it contains one glaring flaw...it is run by the government. That fact is enough to warrant repeal of the legislation. Thanks for a very good write! WB


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

Thank you Wayne, I am so glad you stopped by. Your comments are well appreciated. Perhaps like the girl who thought Obama was going to pay her rent, the left thinks that the government actually makes money. They just do not understand that there are better solutions available than those proposed by Pelosi and this past Congress.


Texasbeta 6 years ago

Joni, 2.3 trillion dollars were spent in health care costs in 2008, and your stance is to chop off $11 billion huh? Is this the same math that states we should cut the deficit yet keep the Bush deficit funded tax cuts? In 2008, it accounted for 17% of our GDP, and grows faster than inflation and the national income. Most economists, and I don't mean Uncle Earl at Glenn Beck U, believe that they key tenet in our nations economic future is reforming the health care system to account for the massive growth. If you want to nitpick it down by $11 billion here and there, then 7% of healthcare costs are administrative costs (billing, marketing) whereas in Medicare/Medicaid the costs are much less (>2%). 7% of 2.3 trillion is quite a bit more than $11 billion right? Your idea that purchasing insurance across state lines would drive down costs is not accurate. There are places where health care is cheaper than others, sure. When you allow everyone to purchase from anywhere, it raises the rates in general. It is called risk selection. It's a fact. It is true, the market dictates. In Detroit, nobody has anything and a house is 30 bucks. Obviously, if you provided health care there, it has to be cheap. If you open up that market, their services are no longer directed towards that little community, and with that community in mind...it is now marketing towards a nationwide populace, with more money. Missouri has less people and less money than Texas. Allow my fellow Texans to buy insurance from Missouri, and all of the sudden really good health plans for the citizens in MO are now crap plans because we Texans drove their prices up. The idea is nice, competition and all, but it doesn't work in practice.

With regards to your statement that the US could be self reliant energy wise is ridiculous. We use almost 8 billion barrels of oil per year. The National Association of Regulatory Utility Commissioners' recent study, speculated that there may be 229 billion barrels of recoverable oil in the United States, 37 billion more than previous estimates. Those 229 billion barrels includes 15 billion in Alaska, 6 of which are under the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It also includes 30 billion off the west coast. That would include every bit of it, ANWR, California, Oregon, Gulf Coast, everything...if we just said "drill it all!". Would that actually happen? No. There isn't a slight chance in the world that a full onslaught would be approved, but still...if it did, that would only account for consumption staying the same level for a little under 30 years, and then it is gone...all of it. As it stands, we get 1.5 million barrels per day, and use 21 or 22 million per day. Simply expanding offshore drilling won't fix anything other than the lack of depth in the oil company's wallets. The fact is, we cannot be energy independent if we are to live in a fossil fuel based energy environment.


Texasbeta 6 years ago

The reason we didn't have the perfect bill is because Republicans were either telling the country lies (like death panels), misrepresenting (like stating we have the best health care in the world, when no study on the planet claims anywhere similar), and refusing to work with or participate in the process. The Dems had to cave on several issues in order to pass anything. What specifically do you not like about it, really? Other than requiring people to get health care, which it really doesn't as it provides subsidies and is a staggered system in itself, bothers you? Oh yeah, the legality is based upon the commerce clause.

Wayne - Your position seems to be that business is good and government is bad. Insurance companies are motivated by profit, thus participate in cutting people who have paid premiums their entire life when they get sick, an absolute laundry list of horrible things, yet you think the government, the very people who made doing things like this illegal, are the bad people who you can't trust? One is legally motivated to maximize their profits, while the other can operate at a negative margin technically and is based upon the idea of being a benefit to society? Dude, there were no liberals running the show in Orwel's 1984. Read it again. Wait...you are a Republican, I forgot. Watch the movie again, I meant. I understand that a great amount of the government are scumbags, lining their pockets, and raping the system. I get that. You can change those things with active participation though. You can't change the board of Aetna, no matter how much you want to. Both have done bad things, but only one can you change. The healthcare industry is based upon screwing you over by its very precepts.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

texasbeta, I said it was a start. It should be included as one of the items to help lower costs.. And Wayne is correct, almost everything the gets involved in, goes sour. The Dems didn't have to cave on anything sir. They could have passed anything they wanted during the last 2 years. But I see you have their blame the Republicans line down, hook line and sinker.

If you have such strong feelings about it, write your own hub about it. You aren't about to convince me with all your left wing talking points.


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Abecedarian 6 years ago from These United States, Texas

This was very interesting as I agree with some and disagree with some of what you wrote. The Republicans grandstanded with all the documents that "were not" read. But in reality, ask any politician Dem, Rep, or Ind. how much of any bill that they vote on, did they actually read? In the "real" world, these people have aids that are paid to read/skim through these things and point out the important issues to fight against or for.

As for Republicans and Social Programs, we NOW have the opportunity to see if they will accomplish anything at all or if it was all political rhetoric. Rand Paul himself was back peddling on the issue the day after the election, John Boehner said they'd have to "look at it".


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LRCBlogger 6 years ago

Joni, I agree with some of your points but there is a lot of opinion that skews from the facts. Republicans have said their ideas were "shut out" but they have also claimed credit for many parts of the HCR bill that are popular with the public. How could their ideas have been shut out but they then claim credit for different parts of the bill (If you would like, I can post at least 7-10 examples)

It is currently not possible to repeal HCR, efforts to do so would purely be a waste of time (at least over the next 2 years). Why not work at ammending portions of the bill that people do not like? I think you would agree with a lot of the bill, however, there are some items that deeply offend Republicans (individual mandate for example).

I don't understand the concept of repeal, it seems like a huge step in the wrong direction. I did a hub on the "patients bill of rights" I doubt any American would want to repeal this part of HCR.

Let's look at some other facts:

- Fact, Heath care costs have been rapidly rising forever.

- Fact, in the last few years, health care costs have gone up dramatically while insurance companies have taken in record profits.

- Fact, The HCR bill does little to curb actual costs. Let's get GOP and Dems working together on actual cost reduction. The "replace and repeal" effort by the GOP is simply a "repeal and forget it" effort.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

Abecedarian, thank you for stopping by and for your comments. While we may disagree on some things, we do however, agree that it is time for the GOP to put up or shut up. Even if a repeal is vetoed, it will be an opportunity for us to see what the other side has in mind.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

LRCBlogger, thank you for reading and leaving your thoughts on the subject here. You are assuming much by your statement that the GOP effort to 'repeal and replace' really means 'repeal and forget.' Yet, you state this is fact. But I do agree that both sides have to work together to amend, fix or replace this bill.


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CMerritt 6 years ago from Pendleton, Indiana

I think this is an excellent article with fantastic points to be made. The GOP has got to restore some common sense to this country. Obama care does not reflect common sense. Like you stated "we have to pass the bill to see what is in it"....says alot about those in Washington, especially for those who support such a bill.

I think the GOP has some common sense approach to fixing this problem, or at least address's this problems in a more reasonable fashion.

such as such as allowing individual tax relief for anyone who purchases their own private health insurance.

Opening up the free market across state lines...for starters.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

CMerritt, Yes, it does state a lot about our current law makers and not such nice things either. Although it has been missing for a few years, my hope is that common sense is practiced daily in our new Congress. Thank you for adding your comments here.


Texasbeta 6 years ago

Joni, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but the Dems could not pass everything they wanted. You seriously need to learn how this process works. When it gets to the Senate, a single Senator can stop the entire discussion from even hitting the floor for debate, and this last session, one did. He said nothing would come to the floor unless his office approved it. He wasn't a committee chair; he was just a guy. The threat of a filibuster is enough to stop most bills, and the Republicans used it more in the first 4 months than in any other 4 year term in the history of the country. Basic civics folks. Did everyone skip class or something?


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CMerritt 6 years ago from Pendleton, Indiana

Texas, the rules has always been the same, WHY do you think that it was being used this last four year? I will tell you, because to the democrats inabiltiy to reach out and be bi-partisan. They locked the repubs out of hearings and had closed door meetings. Obama did nothing but ridicule them and demean them. He could have taken a page out of the Reagan play book, and pick up a phone and call these guys, and learn how to wheel and deal, to get a bill passed. I think you will see a different set of rules this time, and more reasonable approach to passing a particular bill.


Rachael Dalrymple 6 years ago

Oh man- what crazy girl said that?

Anyway, well written!


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Cedar Cove Farm 6 years ago from Southern Missouri

I have to agree with diamondrn and take it a step further in allowing the freemarket system fix the problems, something Ron Paul believed. You're right, the whole thing just felt dirty. Good hub.


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Joni Douglas 6 years ago Author

Thank you Cedar Cove Farm. Those steps are needed for real reform. I appreciate your comments very much.

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