The Party of No

President Obama's First 100 Days Have Been Busy.
President Obama's First 100 Days Have Been Busy.
The President Has Passed Legislation Attacking The Domestic and Foreign Mess Left By The Previous Administration
The President Has Passed Legislation Attacking The Domestic and Foreign Mess Left By The Previous Administration
The Republicans Have Simply Said No To Everything
The Republicans Have Simply Said No To Everything

Obama Says Yes We Can; Republicans Say No

President Obama just passed a major milestone in American Politics: the first 100 days. In just a little more than three months, the President has passed an Economic Recovery Plan and a Homeowner Foreclsoure Plan. The President has signed executive orders closing Guantanamo Bay Detention Center and formally outlawing torture. The President has traveled to Europe with approval and met with America's Western Hemisphere neighbors. Whether you agree with the President or not, there can be no dipsute that the President has accomplished much in his first 100 days.

And all of this despite the stubborness of the opposition party. President Obama has reached his hand across the aisle to only find that nobody on the other side of the aisle willing to shake his hand. After 100 days it has become obvious that the Republican Party has decided to adopt as a political strategy a former first lady's tagline: Just say no.

Some Of The Nays Were Sincere; But Most Were Purely Partisan
Some Of The Nays Were Sincere; But Most Were Purely Partisan

The Party Of No?

No, Its Not All Of Them

To be fair, there are millions of Republicans who are not a part of this Just Say No policy. There are millions of Americans who genuinely and sincerely disagree with the President's Agenda and have every right to vocalize their disagreement. And yes, there are even a few Republican leaders who are currently trying to fight for their party's soul.

But these good Americans are not as vocal as those who simply want the President, and therefore, the country to fail. These "partriots" are the ones that you see spewing lies and disinformation on Fox News. These are the Republicans you see refusing to come to the table and negotiate with the President. These are the Republicans who would rather see the Country fail than see the President proven right.

Limbaugh Unapologetically Says No.
Limbaugh Unapologetically Says No.

So Who Is The Party Of No?

It is obvious that the Republicans have no real leader right now. Instead, they appear to have a collection of substitute teachers. Most of these "leaders" are what makes up the party of no. The most obvious is Rush Limbaugh. No, he is not a political or elected leader, but Rush represents the opinion of millions of Americans. He is also very influential in the Republican Party and most seek his approval. To be fair to Rush, he is not secretive about his hopes for the Obama administration. He has outwardly and proudly boasted that he hopes Obama fails. He hopes that the Obama Economic Recovery Plan does not succeed.

But has Rush provided any answers? Has he got any ideas? The answer is no. He provides nothing to help, he simply sits on the sidelines and tries to throw gas on the fire. He simply says no.


Sean Hannity Defending Bush

Hannity Attacking The President

The Hypocrisy Of Sean Hannity

The other obvious leader of the party of no is Sean Hannity. The Fox News Pundit has never and will never be an Obama supporter. This would be fine except his voices his opinion by spewing lies and disinformation about each Obama policy to the millions of Americans who look to him for information.

For example, during the presidency of George Bush, Hannity was a staunch supporter of President Bush. Fine, Hannity is entitled to his opinion. However, he used to blast guests who questioned Bush's foreign policy on the basis that it undermined our fight against Terrorism. He used to blast guests who offered opinions that differed in any way with the Bush Administration because it was unAmerican.

But during the campaign Sean Hannity did nothing but throw out groundless lies against Candidate Obama. He called him a muslim, a terrorist and a socialist. Now that Obama is President nothing has changed. In fact, Hannity now claims that it is appropriate to question foreign policy even if it undermines our war against Terrorism.

Better yet, Hannity offers no answers. He only offers insults and lies. He is a major leader of the party of no.

Congressional Republicans Have Done Nothing But Sit Around And Say No
Congressional Republicans Have Done Nothing But Sit Around And Say No

Is The Just Say No Strategy Working?

Spector Left Because Right Wing Conservatives Vowed Revenge For Spector Saying Yes Once
Spector Left Because Right Wing Conservatives Vowed Revenge For Spector Saying Yes Once

Congressional Republicans

The Congressional Republicans, at least most of them, are a major part of the Party of No. Not one Republican member of the House of Representatives voted for the Recovery Plan. Only three Republican Senators voted for the Recovery Plan, and the Conservative Right has vowed to take them out for cooperating with Obama.

More importantly, in 100 days not one of these members of Congress have stepped forward with a plan for America. Sure the Republicans put forward a seventeen page budget plan after weeks of prodding about their lack of plan. The plan called for tax cuts for the rich and cutting social spending. They copied it from the boxes destined for the Bush Presidential Library.

Other than their Cliff Notes style budget plan, the Congressional Republicans have offered nothing to help America. They have no Recovery Plan. They have no plans for foreign policy. They simply hold press conferences to say No. They rail against each policy submitted.

How bad is it? Senator Arlen Spector of Pennsylvania, a thirty year veteran of the Senate and a life long Republican recently announced that he was switching parties and becoming a democrat. While not a supporter of many democratic policies, Spector stated that he was leaving the GOP because the party had left him.  He cited that the right wing was willing to lose elections and see the country fail in order to "purify" the Republican Party.

Say No If You Want, But At Least Obama Has A Plan
Say No If You Want, But At Least Obama Has A Plan

Put Up Or Shut Up

 Whether you agree with President Obama or not, he won the election.  A majority of the people voted for Obama's ideas and policies.  Nobody is arguing that the President should get everything he wants without debate and opposition.  That is not America.

But if you are going to oppose the President, bring something to the table.  Bring a plan, an idea, a solution.  There are millions of Republicans out there and many have very good ideas on how to improve the Country.  Right now, their voices in Washington are spending their time saying no and calling everyone else a socialist.  Bring something to the table or go home.  Now is the time for real ideas.  Like it or not, the President's first 100 days showed that he is a man with ideas and a plan.  What do you have?

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mysticdave 7 years ago

I totally agree, the republicans should just shut up already and get over themselves:)


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James A Watkins 7 years ago from Chicago

I think if you believe someone else's proposals are bad ideas, and you are an elected representative of your constituents, you have a moral obligation to vote no. 

Hypothetically, let's say you propose to give $4,000,000,000 dollars of taxpayer's money to an organization that unrepentently admits committing voter fraud in this last election to get the guy elected who now wants to pay them back by giving them this monstrous amount of money and said organization proudly announces what it intends to do with the four billion dollars: to "indoctrinate" (their own word, not mine) its "volunteers" to "correct thought". 

But wait it gets better!  The guy this "non-partisan" organization worked to get elected through rampant, blatant voter fraud?  He is going to help them out by trying to make this "volunteering" for this "indoctrination" mandatory for all Americans at the age when their minds are most vulnerable (15-20). 

Hypothetically, could one vote against the bill that includes this provision in good conscience? Or would that make one just a person with no ideas of their own who is just against everything.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks for the comments.

Voting against something is fine, if you truly believe it is wrong or immoral as you claim. But to vote against something because the other guy thought of it and provide no answers yourself, then what good are you doing.

By the way, the Acorn accusations you state are only found and spewed by Sean Hannity. Provide some proof and I would be willing to read it.


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James A Watkins 7 years ago from Chicago

I have seen ACORN people from several states on television admitting that their people committed voter fraud. I thought everybody has seen this. They were not the least bit ashamed of it. In fact, one fella said, "If somebody votes ten times that is better than one voter missing out on the chance to vote."

I agree that no one should vote against a good idea just because of who put forth the idea. I am not against all of anybody's ideas. I think nearly everybody has some good ideas.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Well, I have looked for Acorn admissions and haven't found them. If they do admit it, then I agree, don't give them money. What I haven't heard is any of the Republicvans saying that is the reason they didn't vote for anything. If they have, why not add an amendment?

Most people have good ideas. Many politicians don't.

Thanks for your comment.


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THE FAMOUS SHEAMU 7 years ago

I strongly disagree with almost everything in your article......


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Fair enough; Any suggestions on improvement, new ideas, counter ideas?


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THE FAMOUS SHEAMU 7 years ago

The only part I really agree with is on Mr. Hannity.... I dont really like him that much I think all he does is bash the democrats.... My favorite person to listen to is Glen Beck.... He is shows a differnt side to everything and talks about what both parties think and are what they are doing good and bad!


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks for the comment.

I won't bash Glen Beck because he allows debate on his show and doesn't just scream at his liberal guests. He argues, but doesn't scream and I will respect that.


issues veritas 7 years ago

Obama can pass all the bills and bucks but the mortgages are not getting to the street. The word is the mortgage companies are swamped. In the meantime, mortgages are not funding or they are funding very very late. This doesn't help the people that are in need of refinancing the horrible loans that were generated for the last several years.

The bottom line is that people are still losing their jobs and they are unable to refinance their houses. Corporations are going bankrupt and people in the private sector are without jobs and without benefits. Yet, the Federal Government is growing in size. There is a benefit versus burden with the size of the Federal workforce and that has been heavy into the burden for the last several decades.

Neither Democratic or Republican party is doing anything to help the people. If loyal party members would do some independent thinking and vote for the best person for the position the country would be better off than it is today. I don't care which party did a great job and which party did a bad job. All I know is that Congress and the Presidents did a bad job. It didn't matter which party was in control.

Obama was in the Democratic Controlled Senate for two years before he became President. During those two years he pandered for votes. What did Congress do in that time, they also pandered for votes. What have either of them done since the election, pass gas. Nothing is really going to help the people until it gets to their level. Rewarding AIG and the financial industry for causing the economic collapse while at the same time putting the victim auto industry out of business, is not helping.

Increasing the already obese size of the federal workforce, while the private sector corporations are going out of business, or laying off thousands of people is not helping the people. The federal worker is a burden to the people once the benefit versus burden ratio has been exceeded.

The federal workers have job security, health and retirement benefits and a decent pay scale. They can retire in their fifties, so that more federal workers can get jobs and increase the burden

It is sad and pathetic that people think that either party is trying to help them. Both parties have had the opportunities over time and they all failed.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Fair points and I agree both parties deserve blame. I have huge problems with Congressional Democrats as well.

And I agree bailing out AIG was General Motors but not the people themselves was a mistake.

So we agree on most of what the problems were. But what is the answer? What plan should be put forward. You don't like Obama's, I can respect that. It spends trillions of dollars and puts us in debt, I can see why people don't like it.

But where is the other play? The one that is going to work. Even I put my plan out there (another hub of mine). The problem with my plan is I am not a political leader, expert in economics, or the like. Just a common sense plan to me.

Where is the better plan? I would love to hear it.


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James A Watkins 7 years ago from Chicago

I have a plan. The federal bureaucracy touches almost every aspect of our lives from birth to death. Every aspect it touches results in less freedom. My plan is to abolish the IRS, Federal Reserve, the Departments of the Interior, Agriculture, Commerce, Health & Human Services, Housing & Urban Development, Labor, Education, Energy and Transportation (hopefully both NEAs are in there somewhere). No more New Deal; no more Great Society.

Each state can govern these affairs if and as its citizens see fit, otherwise the private sector will be better in nearly every case.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Well, that is a plan. And many people believe that States should govern wall to wall and that is a perfectly legitimate belief.

What about entitlements like Social Security? Just curious if your plan would keep or abolish this. Who would collect taxes?


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James A Watkins 7 years ago from Chicago

One of the problems is Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy. 

Another is that bureaucracy is a cost only. It produces nothing to the GDP. It cost trillions upon trillions.

And the known rule that the farther away from a problem the worse it is resolved. And the farther away money travels before "coming back" the more of it disappears going both ways.

We, of course, need the Armed Forces, CIA, FBI, State Department. And to pay for those, the states can chip in part of their revenues from their state sales taxes—which will have to go up. But that's OK. Then we are taxed on consumption not on earnings (or savings—both of which are vital to be kept at an optimum).

There should be no federal social security.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

OK, just asking. Thanks for the comment.

I don't agree with your take, but then again, the Federal Government in the last 10 years in hard to defend. So perhaps a drastic approach like yours is needed. Of course, you don't think it is drastic but a return to the intent of the founders, at least Jefferson.

interesting thoughts.


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James A Watkins 7 years ago from Chicago

And you are gracious in your replies. Thank you. I do appreciate your well articulated positions.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

And I appreciate yours. We don't have to agree, but we do both have to bring something to the table. Only if the leaders in Washington, on both sides, would do the same.


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J. Kumm 7 years ago from Washington

Rooting for someone else's failure is just the lowest form of opinion in my view. It's one thing to disagree with a president's policy, and another to say you hope he fails. Why would any American want an American president to fail?

Even in my highest point of anger over President Bush's decisions, I never wanted him to fail. I hoped no matter how crazy I thought his decisions were they would come out on the up or he would surprise me by being right.

I think the Republicans are just a little touchy because they are in a bad spot right now. They probably think digging their heels into the ground is a strategy to get them out of this situation but it is exactly what got them there in the first place. Change or die....


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Fair Point.

And I don't remember Democrats saying they hoped the war in Iraq failed or anything like that. They said (later on) that the war was wrong and Bush's economic policies were wrong, but they never said I hope he fails.

Thanks for the comment.


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eovery 7 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

Interesting hub.

One thing you mentioned is that the Republicans are not going to the table and negotiating with the President. When has he ever given them the chance to negotiate? He doesn't need to with the majority vote of congress. They are totally bypassing the Republicans. So what can the Republicans do? Disassociate them from the everything. And expect the Democrats to over-step, and swing the moment back.

And for to say the Democrat did not want the war in Irag to fail. They wanted to pull out of it before the job was finished. That is the same as failing in my book.

As far as people wanting Obama to fail is a miss quote and taken out of content. If you believe the policies to be detrimental, then you want the ones that are administering the policies to fail, and not place the policies into effect. I.e. they feel Obama's policies are bad for the country, so they want Obama to fail at placing his policies so they will not further hurt the country. I wish the media would get this quote correct, they never will and they may not even understand it. Just saying "they want Obama to fail" is not correct. This miss quote is so far off, that it losses all of its logic. Everyone thinks it is illigical to say this. Well, they are right, this is not what is being said.

Keep on Hubbing!


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks for the comment.

However, Obama gave the Republicans every chance to negotiate. He went to Congress to meet with them. He invited them to the White House. After every meeting the Republican leaders said no. No compromise, no negotiation. Obama still seeks their comments.

Yes, he doesn't have to but he does. You may be referring to Nancy Pelosi, who I agree, is horrible. But Obama has tried and has been rebuffed.

Wanting to end the war is different than wanting us to lose. Reasonable minds can differ on policy, but no Democrat wanted us to lose the war. But how can we win the war if the original objectives can never be met.

I don't think Rush was misquoted. To be fair and allow people to make up their own minds, I included the entirety of the speech. He also said it on his radio show. Hannitty is the same.

Also, no recognition from either than there are signs that things are improving. At least Obama gives Bush recogntion for the few things right he did. (I am referring to creating anti-biotics stockpile, which Bush did do and deserves credit for)

Thanks for the comment


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Blackberry 7 years ago

Have you noticed what's going on with Acorn this morning on the news!!!!!!!

Another news story "Strong arming" that's low.

'"there can be no dipsute that the President has accomplished much in his first 100 days." Oh, yes there can!

"Bring a plan, an idea, a solution." Your asking us to bring a plan or idea we're not running the country. Our own President doesn't even have solutions.

I wish he would get off my tv.


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dusanotes 7 years ago from Windermere, FL

Interesting blog: but you, J. Kumm, and others who say Rush Limbaugh said I hope the president fails, and ended his sentence, are wrong. What he did say was I hope he fails in transforming the U.S. into a socialistic country. I, too, hope he fails at that because that means government ownership of means of production. The Brits were not doing well under socialism and then Margaret Thatcher came along.She started a program of privatizing government owned trains, manufacturing and other businesses. It worked. She turned their economy around so that today it's in better shape than many western countries. But with a socialist back in power, Gordon Brown, it is going down fast. Recently they had to raise taxes on people making 214 pounds per year ($150,000) from 40% to 50%. It will probably have to go higher and those more heavily taxed will be down in the category of ordinary people making an 100,000 pounds a year -- all because of excessive spending in the UK.

Look around, isn't Obama headed in that direction? Already, he and we own most of AIG and GM. Had Chrysler come up with a plan and not declared bankruptcy, the government would have owned them too. We are quickly transforming ourselves into a government-ownership nation. Watch closely in the next few weeks and months to see if Obama divests himself of all of the companies he now controls. By controlling I mean he can name the president, fire the board of directors and put pressure on how the company is managed.

The taking over of companies is supposed to be to prop them up and it must be temporary. But I'm against even propping up a company -- let them fail. Let them declare bankruptcy as Chrysler has. If they can pay their creditors 30 cents on the dollar maybe they can survive...and maybe they can't. That's what has made this country great, the opportunity to fail. Take that away and all you have is a "Nanny State" with companies unable to compete with the world because they don't have to be excellent to survive. There are companies out there still making money in this recession. One is Amazon. When people can't go on expensive trips they visualize the trip in a book they buy from Amazon, Barnes and Nobel and others.

Free enterprise is supposed to be "free to fail." One business goes out and another pops up to replace it, and the new one has a better idea, more ambitious workers, or something else that keeps it afloat. Did we prop up Thomas Edison when he failed 1,000 times trying to invent the incadescent light bulb? Did we prop up Henry Ford when he tried to get a car company started? No, he went out and got private subscriptions of money and struggled.

Struggle is good. In his case, for months he struggled with the question of how he could make his new company financially successful. Then he discovered he could cut costs by having one employee install fenders, another install windshields, another the engine -- in a conveyer belt assembly line routine called mass production. It takes new ideas to succeed.

Government has no business meddling with car companies. My view is to let GM and Chrysler have the chance to fail. Obama, in a recent speech, mentioned the fact that it is tougher for American automakers to succeed and compete with Japan because of "Legacy costs." He didn't spell it out for fear of offending the unions, but that's what he meant. Including benefits, American union auto workers make as much as $140,000 per year as opposed to Honda and Toyota in America where they make half that. Figuring an average of 2,000 hours of productive work per year, that boils down to a salary of about $70 per hour for assembly line workers. I believe the only reason Obama and the Demos gave GM and Chrysler all that money was to bail out or save the unions and their workers in Detroit and all over. Obama has loosened up the requirements to form unions because those are Democrat voters. Again, it boils down to passing special benefit laws and spending taxpayer money to garner votes. If you study Obama, you see that this is his MO, he's always looking toward the next election. Why does he go to Missouri and speak before a group of Democrats at a cost of $350,000 to operate Airforce One, then return the same night? Why did he spend twice that much of our money on a "date" on Valentines to Chicago, return that night and go back there the same week to be with his wife -- all on the national largass? That Missouri trip, like many he takes, was a 2012 election campaign trip. Though the country is awakening to his excesses during a recession because of Shawn Hanity, Rush Limbaugh, and independent Glen Beck, since arriving at the White House he's been like a drunken sailor on one continual party, more concerned about his own popularity than the country (as proven by his dismal performance at the G20 meetings where he was afraid to offend even a known U.S. enemy Hugo Chavez by using the dictator's proffered book as a photo op. What did that say to our allies in South and Central America, like Columbia? Meanwhile Chavez is entertaining Russia as they do joint Naval maneuvers a hundred miles from Key West). Read my conservative solution to paying back Obama's excessive spending to get America right.

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You said Republicans seem to lack a real leader, but they do appear united to an idea. Read my blog above. Voting no is not a sin. What is a shameful is the trillions of dollars Obama and Congress have authorized to spend on banks, car companies, and insurers. That money will have to be paid back by our kids and theirs. We tried to get Chinese money again, but they're not playing that game. They see how bad our economy really is. So all we've got left is Obama's printing press. But when you flood the market with money, what little we old timers have left in the bank quickly diminishes. Our retirements are going to be worth practically nothing. Is this part of Obama's big plan? Humble us to the point we have to all become socialists and wards of the state to survive?


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks for the comments, althought I don't agree with everything you have said.

Common ground: I agree, AIG and GM and others should have been let fail. See my other blog re my plan to fix the economy.

I don't think Obama wants socialism, but I don't agree with giving trillions to failing companies.

Republicans have no plan, no ideas and no solutions, just no.

Acorn is bad this morning, but Acorn is not Obama. Just more guilty by association. But Obama should insist they get nothing if the allegaitons are true. If he doesn't, then he has a real problem and will deservedly lose support.

Rush said it. I put the entire clip there, but he said it. If it wasn't what he meant, then choose words more closely.


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eovery 7 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

I agree the Republicans are sucking bad right now. The need to pull thier head out of their !@#$!@#$. But I cannot agree to the direction Obama and the gang is taking us.

We need some help.

As for negotiating with the Republicans, Obama invited a select few modarate republicans to try to win them over -- not to negotiate. This is was all a ploy for the media and the American public. "Obama tried, but the Republican resisted." It worked for some people who cannot think for themselves and see past the deception.

Keep on hubbing.


Writer Rider 7 years ago

Ok, I'm a dem and I'm not going to mention my opinion but do you think "Just say no" is the right strategy when people are tired of the word and want to hear "yes."


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Sufidreamer 7 years ago from Sparti, Greece

Dusanotes - the socialism experiment of the seventies failed. No argument - Conservatism was needed to repair some of the damage.

However, please do not hold Thatcher up as a guiding light - she destroyed the country. The rail privatization was a shambles and is still an ongoing mess. The national infrastructure was completely destroyed under Thatcher, and she sold off the industries for much less than they were worth.

Even modern Conservatives distance themselves from Thatcherism - it did not work and went too far. Greed is good failed.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks for the comments. Apparently this fight crosses oceans.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Eovery,

He met with every Republican, he met with the caucus. They came out and said no.

And they have every right to. But what have they offered? The argument that it is a waste of time because it won't get passed is flawed. Introduce bills, make speeches. They sent in Bobby Jingall.

And I agree, Obama went after the moderates. 3 Republican moderates dropped one hundred billion from the Recovery Plan based on those negotations. So it can work. The others hid in the corner and offered up nothing. Now they are going after the ones that tried.

But as always, I appreciate your comments and your thoughts.


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eovery 7 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

The three sold out the Republican party.  The Republicans were totally against the WHOLE big spending bill and most of the items congress is currently doing.  The Republicans were doing the will of the people who voted them in.  A lot of people were against the big spending bill and saying no.  The ones that said no represented them well.  The three that were traitors to the party, sold the part out.  The bill needed 60% passing, and would not have passed if they had not sold the party out. This is part of the checks and balance of our republic.  We are not a democracy, but a republic.

This was their job.  And to hear people crying, "they said no."  This is senseless.  45% of the the U.S.A. should not have a voice and can't say no?

Just because this is different than some people want to hear.  It is still what a lot of people want.  Remember Obama only got 55% percent of the vote.  There is still 45% opposed.  They have a voice.  And they say no to big spending.

I tired of people crying because they are saying no.  And calling the republicans cry babies, when they are crying louder about the Republicans, who doing what they think is right.  This is actual comical now that I think of it.  LOL comical. 

This is the second or third hub on this. And it is getting funny.

Keep on Hubbing.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Well, your recent comment proves my point. I didn't call them crybabies. Obstructionist. Genuine disagreement with a policy a no vote is fair, needed and patriotic. A no vote just because the other side thought of it, obstructionist.

But, if we are going to go down this road, at least you don't hear President Obama calling the Republicans unpatriotic because they don't agree with them. President Bush did not give the same respect.

Republicans who say no for good reasons I have respect for. Republican leader who mandate that their members say no not out of principal but because Obama introduced it I have none. Republicans who just howl at the moon and offer nothing to solve the problems of the day except for insults and propaganda are the ones I am talking about.


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dusanotes 7 years ago from Windermere, FL

Sufidreamer, you're right about one thing. The socialist experiment of the seventies failed, and it will fail every time. Why don't people learn? America's founding fathers and both Democrats and Republicans today don't want to water down the American economy with socialism. You have your problems in the UK and will suffer even more with Gordon Brown at the helm. But we here in America do not need to suffer over socialism, I think we've watched your experiment and shuddered; we know personally Canadians who come to America for health care because their socialistic medical care isn't performing -- they have long lines up there for care and our hospitals and doctors are better than theirs. It's a fact, socialism doesn't work. I had my appendix out in a socialist country in 1958 in Finland. The doctors were adequate and I survived. But there was a lot to be desired in the way of facilities and nursing care that we have here in America. While I love Finland and their wonderful people, I wouldn't want to go back there for another operation. That was when I was very young and the circumstances were such that I couldn't return to the states for the operation -- it was get operated on or die -- so I had no choice.

We all know it, so why take us down that road again? My progenitors came from Britain -- people from Scotland, Wales, Ireland and England. Why did they come? Many came because in America they saw a better life. America in the seventeenth and eighteenth century held out an offer of land and freedom impossible at that time in Europe and England. Freedom . . .free agency . . . God didn't put us on earth to be slaves to any man . . . that is a God-given gift. We call it an "inalienable right" here in America to be free. In England was born our desire to be free and the document signed at Runnymede, the Magna Carta. We in America feed off that document just as you do there in England. It was inspired of God, just as our Constitution and Bill of Rights was inspired. We conservatives believe for man to be truly free he must be free to start up a business without threat of government taking it over or taxing it to death, which the Obama boys want to do.

We sincerely hope and pray that the takeovers of industry by the Obama administration will be temporary. That the U.S. will get out of industry and get back to doing what good governments do, making laws that pave the way for the common citizenry to go out and make a living without threat of reprisals which we are seeing right now as Obama, Patrick Gaithner, and Rattner bully the big auto makers, insurers, and banks around. It's downright disgraceful. I can't wait for the day when Obama starts keeping his promise to relent, to get out of the way and let business leaders run their own companies. But my fear is that meanwhile he will wreck what it took us almost 300 years to build up here in America. To all of this skulldrudgery and outright socialism, I join with Rush Limbaugh and the Republicans in saying NO.

Don White


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dusanotes 7 years ago from Windermere, FL

This Democrat who wrote the "NO" article above is talented, but not right, I'll give him that. He started a controversy that won't end. bgpappa is his name. He excoriated Republicans on Hub pages about the fact there seems to be a solid NO front to Obama's outlandish spending. And rightly so. Obama's out of control and must be stood up to with a solid no, if it isn't too late; Obama's already bankrupted our country and somehow his actions need to be reversed. Fat chance. Elsewise how will our kids pay back those huge sums of money. And if all he does is dilute the money supply, printing new money to pay for his excesses, then all of us suffer, especially those of us on fixed incomes. If for example, you have ten thousand dollars in the bank and hyperinflation follows when the recession is over, which it will, your money may buy only a third of the groceries as before. So that's like saying Obama has in 100 days robbed you of $6,666. And that's how he will pay for it. All that hard-earned savings almost wiped out in three months, and the "best" and most expensive from Obama is still to come, health care! Then we'll get free doggie wipes, autographed basketballs for every family signed by BHO, excerpts from a new book he'll write, "My Popularity Never Wanes," or is it "How I Skinned America The Chicago Way."

Mark my words, if Obama has his way there will be ordinary Democrats and Republicans in food lines over his deficit spending. I feel that's exactly what he wants -- Americans begging for food, so we can know what it feels like to be hungry again. I was born in the depression so I know what that is like and it isn't pretty.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks for the comments.

I have to disagree with the comment about Canadian healthcare. Canada offers every citizen basic healthcare needs. The ones that come to America are the rich, because they can. American doctors are the best. So is the technology. But the system is broken. I have insurance and I get adequate healthcare without paying thousands out of pocket and I don't even have cancer. (see other hub)

Do you really think Obama wants people standing in breadlines? And these companies that he is dragging down, weren't they on the brink of failing? AIG, GM, BofA were all going to fail and came to the government for help. Are the Republicans upset that they got help or that conditions were set? I agree with the Republicans that say let them fail. I can't agree with the ones that say unconditionally help them.


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eovery 7 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

Societies and groups that have depended on democrat philosophies are the ones today getting all kind of welfare. The Democrats have not lifted thier welfare recieptants our of poverty, and never will. So looking at today systems the Democrats have put forth, they want people dependant on them. And they will heavily tax those who are not. It is all unfolding in front of our eyes. They say wealth redistribution. That's just another word for stealing from the rich by taxation and taking over the corporations, and give it to the poor in forms of welfare. Food lines were a narrative here, but if it continues, it may be a reality because the money will dry up when the corporations fail.

I do agree that the health system needs look at, but I think the costs have skyrocket because every time someone gets a sniffle or scratch, they have to head to the Doctor or ER. I would like to see clinics opened up for some of the minor stuff. Also, the schools need to open up the medical schools to more students. They are on purpose holding down the number of doctors so they can have shortage and keep the costs up. Medical system have almost a Monopoly, or at least a cartail, if that is the right word. The needs to be opened up to the free market more.

Keep on hubbing!


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Well some common ground at least on Healthcare.

None on the Democrats intent. Under the Clinton years, welfare rolls dropped and the economy improved. Oh, and the rich got richer as well. The old adage, if you want to live like a Republican, vote for a democrat.

Nobody likes spending the way were are right now. I don't. But the market system broke. It broke under Bush, started by Clinton. I don't blame either. They system broke and the pendulum must swing left a bit to fix it. When it goes to far it will swing back. Nobody wants socialism.


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eovery 7 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

Clinton had a Republican congress.  Bush had a democratic congress his second term when things went to down the tubes.  His first term he had a republican congress, but they failed in ways to take care of business.  The congress over the last four years had a lower rating than Pres. Bush.  Bush did not get anything done except what the Democratic congress wanted, and spending went out of the roof.  I blame Bush for not cracking down on this, and spending like a democrat

Bush inherited a bad economy from Clinton.  Europe really suffered but through we rode it out pretty good by the low interest loans and the loans on the housing.  Who would know that these loaning practices which were passed in the Clinton era, that help us out of the bad economy of the 2000 through 2002 would come back and bite us now in banks going belly up.  Also, Bush dealt with the Twin towers bombing and the bad economy and stock market crash that followed at that time, but we rode that out well, too.  So be a little careful on claiming who did what.  Link the congress to the times and see what it means.  The president only signs the bills.  He cannot write them and send them through congress. 

Oh Healthcare, I do not think the government can fix this.  We have the smartest people running the health care business and they just continue to roll in the dough.  We have a local hospital here which is a none profit hospital.  They have to keep expanding to get rid of all the money they are making.  Why don't they just lower their rates?

Keep on hubbing. 

 


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Bush did not inherit a bad economy. That lie has really caught on. You ask me, the economy slowed when it became clear he was going to win.

The democrats only controlled Congress for the last two years. I don't blame everything on Bush, 911 had a huge impact. For he shouldn't blame everything on it like he and Cheney has. Truth is Bush didn't do much at all, good or bad. He just was and usually on vacation.


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Paper Moon 7 years ago from In the clouds

Republicans tend to have one thing that they have specialized in for several decades. Rhetoric. They complained and wined when anyone would question GW. And say, he is the leader, give his post the respect that it deserves, then turn around and disrespect as soon as they loose.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

I agree paper moon. The two Sean Hannity videos I have on here show that pretty

But you really have to respect the Republican PR machine. They play that game much better than the Democrats. They have been able to label the term liberal, dishonorable discharge John Kerry. Now they are trying to say GW inherited a bad economy and they are working on Obama.

Thanks for the comment Paper Moon


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA

The people of the United States have spoken. They voted for positive change. Obviously Obama won votes from some Republicans, otherwise he would not have won as decisively as he did.

One thing that has always struck me is the difference between right wing pundits and left wing pundits. The Limbaughs and Hannitys of the world rely on rhetoric and venom. You're right. The Republican PR machine is bigger and stronger than the Dems'.

Left wing pundits use facts. They do their research. They are not hate-mongerers. Al Franken, John Stewart, Randi Rhoades -- all very smart people. I also like Stephen Colbert, who is just flat-out funny. He may ostensibly be a Republican, but he's an equal opportunity comic!

Would love to see the Republicans come up with a plan -- pick a plan, any plan. Just say no was a stupidly simplistic slogan when Nancy Reagan spouted it. It's even more ridiculous now. If you don't have something to put on the table, shut the f$@%* up!!


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Well put MM, however, I want the Republicans to speak. I want ideas. I want debate.

In the old days, the floor of the House and Senate meant something. Crowds would gather for the big debates. Sumner, Calhoun, Seward, they would speak for hours.

Now, the Senators speak to an empty chamber. There is no exchange of ideas, just soundbites.

Thanks for the comment MM


Disalusionedrepub 7 years ago

A republican poster suggested that their party is the one of fiscal restraint.

Are you kidding me?

W. spent 8 long yrs. spending like a drunken sailor - and lying thru his teeth.

NEVER will I vote repub again.

I always knew Dems spend.

Now I know the repubs will do the same.

My hope is you repubs NEVER see power again.

Good luck with that 20% approval rating.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks for the comment.


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virginialoanpro 7 years ago from Virginia

bgpappa says:2 months ago

Fair Point.

And I don't remember Democrats saying they hoped the war in Iraq failed or anything like that. They said (later on) that the war was wrong and Bush's economic policies were wrong, but they never said I hope he fails.

sorry, late to this party, but you have got to be kidding me. Kerry, Murtha, Durbin all said MUCH worse things about our soldiers than " I wish they would fail". You don't see republican alternatives because you won't see them on CNN or NBC.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks for the comment and your never late.

Can you cite something they said that was worse? And I watch Fox News just as much as CNN as Republicans still are offering nothing. Fox News did a story on that today.

What the Republicans are doing is what you did here. They make some broad statement blasting Democrats, refuse to offer any facts, and say its all the media's fault. No plan, no solution, nothing to offer.


A Texan 7 years ago

You wanted proof of ACORN fraud All you have to do is google. I admit I didn't read your Hub I just skipped to the comments, I watch Hannity every night and the one thing he never does is yell at his liberal guests or any guest for that matter.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/20935...

http://socialize.morningstar.com/NewSocialize/foru...

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/acorn-director-admi...

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=6074157&page...

Murtha I don't believe has come out and said that he wants the US to fail but if you read the last two paragraphs of the attached I think you will see his ultimate goal was to hurt Bush politically to stop the war before it could be won!

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzVlZmY4ODk1Z...


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

A Texan,

The comments went astray of the hub, but there are some good points raised in them, even from the right. Murtha disagreed with the policy, but Bush claimed that any objection to the war was an afront to the nation and disrespectful of the soldiers. But politics is politics and really what else could Bush say.

Thanks for the comment.


A Texan 7 years ago

Ok, I read the Hub nothing but falsehoods, Rush has never said he hopes the stimulus plan won't work! He did say as I do that he wants Obamas socialist policies to fail! Hannity never said Obama was a muslim, or a terrorist, he did say he hung around an "Unrepentant terrorist" which he did! Do you ever actually watch fox news? The opinion shows like Orielly and Hannity are exactly what they claim to be, Opinions!

The hard news is always fair and balanced giving time to both sides, but if you watch how MSNBC spins fox news you would come away with a different opinion. I have tried my hardest to watch MSNBC and I'll be honest I can't do it. I can't do it because they're way of thinking is so different than mine. So I kinda doubt you would spend much time watching or listening to limbaugh or Hannity!

But thats ok, notice how I don't say what I heard on MSNBC? Its because I don't watch it enough to know what they are saying, I have seen the stories lambasting fox news as a Conservative station, Pot/kettle! Anyway as we discussed on a different subject don't say things if they are not true, no lies are being spewed on fox unless its from a guest!

One last thing about fox, they lead in the ratings, the opposition isn't watching them, a lot of people are tuning in for some reason! Could it be so they can get the truth?


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Texan, I watch fox news all the time. I put Rush's statement on this hub, so you can hear what he said. I don't watch MSNBC. I watch CNN. They put respected Republicans on every segment and get their opinion. Hard to say they don't give both sides.

But Fox lies al the time. Hannity specifically. Bill O'Reilly gives opinions too, but doesn't try to pass them off as fact. Hannity does. Hannity is still pushing the Obama is not really an American thing. Even Bill O'Reilly says that is garbage.

So before you come on here and say I am telling falsehoods, notice and acknowledge that I gave Rush and Sean fair play. I linked to the sites and videos of what they said.

And as to the topic of the hub, where is the great Republican alternative? The last eight years under Bush tried every conservative policy it could. And they all hurt the country. From economics, foreign policy, to bringing the Country together, the Bush Administration and its "conservative policies" almost brought the nation to total collapse. Of course, I don't believe Bush was a true conservative. I don't believe that Goldwater/Reagan conservatives have much say anymore. Its too bad, true conservative values have a place in the national discussion.


A Texan 7 years ago

You are right about Bush not being a conservative, he Governed in Texas as one but thats because he would have been run out of Texas if he didn't. No hannity does not say that Obama is not a citizen, he doesn't even discuss it at any length. I have seen the interview with Rush and whole heartdley agree with him! You do not provide links to the interview you provide a link to a liberal backed commercial!

Why should the Republicans back any proposal that they disagree with? Does it even matter if they voted at all? They control nothing, If the Democrats want health care passed they do not need a single Republican vote! If they offer proposals they wont even be debated and you know it, Democrats can't get what they want passed because of DEMOCRATS!

Yes bgpappa falsehoods you have a responsibility to write the truth if not you are merely a propagandist, you're better than that!


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

What Liberal Commercials, it is what he said? His words. Both for Hannity and Rush.

But I do agree with you on one point, the Congressional Democrats are horrible. Polosi has got to go. And I have been saying that since the start. She is not somebody is going to rally behind or be afraid of. She gives Liberals a bad name.


A Texan 7 years ago

The commercial that you have a link to, "the party of no" commercial, are you not aware of what you put up? Then you have something about "Hannity attacking the President" in 3:44 Hannity does not say a word! Where is the attack? If you want people to read your Hubs and actually take you serious you have to print the truth! I know what Rush said because I saw the entire interview, your snippet of it does not bolster your claims they prove the deception you are engaged in, are you a shill for the Democrats, go read my new Hub today and see how intellectual honesty should be!


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

A Texan,

Either your an idiot (which I don't believe) or you are simply not watching the clips attacked, which is a lot like on reading a hub before commenting on it (which you did) which is a lot like not reading a bill then going out and telling lies about it. Rush didn't make the comment in an interview, he made it in a speech to Republicans. The speech is the link located under the Picture of Rush that is enttiled "Read for yourself." I always put the context of these type of comments so readers can read for themselves what was said. That is fair. I couldn't find a video of the speech that wasn't part of either a Fox News op ed or MSNBC op ed.

As for Sean Hannity there are two videos attached. The first where Hannity states over and over again it is unpatriotic to disagree with the President when it is Bush. The second comes directly from Hannity's show, thus the Hannity symbol in the corner and it is a blatant and partisan attack on the President. By the way, also attached is a link to Hannity's website so readers can read his opinions for themselves. It too is under the heading: "Find Out For Yourself."

Honestly, if your hub is as blatanty incorrect as your latest rant, I have no interest in wasting my time. I enjoy good debate with those who genuinely believe in what they are saying and have ideas. But with you sir, it is a waste of time and effort.


A Texan 7 years ago

Jesus Christ son, Hannity didn't attack anyone nothing in that link was said by Sean Hannity! It aired on his show and was the beginning of a segment talking about Obama;s first 100 days, to liberals opinion is now an attack! The Interview I am talking about is in the clip you provide where Limbaugh says I hope Obama fails or words to that effect, incidentally it was an interview conducted by Sean Hannity!

I am sure that Limbaugh has said he hopes Obama fails many times in speeches, but he first said it in that interview, how many times do you link to the same comment by limbaugh?

I really don't care what A hack considers a "waste" of time, you rank right up there with the woman who claims California voted for a Democrat candidate for the first time in 2008. You post links then are confused with what you put up as evidence! Nothing I have written is incorrect look at your own links!


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Mighty Mom 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA

So, how's the effort, bgpappa? Doesn't look to me like you're getting much reasoned debate from the other side here. Probably better off going over to the Religion forum and arguing what monkeys evolve from. LOL.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Its amazing MM.

Apparently I need neon signs. I post complete links to things to allow people to read things and decide for themselves. Of course the right hates it when people decide for themselves when there isn't a tax cut involved.

Just likes to argue I guess.


A Texan 7 years ago

You posted an entire Hub based on the premise that the republicans say no, deciding for themselves to say no! Then complain because you think they should act differently. And then blame the right for what you are doing, Were you deprived of oxygen as a child?

Gotta love the irony


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

You explained the hypocracy perfectly, you just pointed the finger in the wrong direction.

Thanks for the comment.


A Texan 7 years ago

I guess. I will leave it alone, have a good night!


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

You as well. And despite this obstreperous argument (got that from Bill O'Reilly's word of the day) you are always welcomed. And I take my share as well.


A Texan 7 years ago

Good word, I prefer Pettifoggery I got it from O'Reilly as well.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Good one.


pgrundy 7 years ago

Wow, this was on the landing page so I thought it was new but I see it's been up about three months. Sorry I missed it when you first published it. I am more on your page than the other one--I voted for Obama and I want to a single payer health care plan not this mess that they're fighting over, and it's frustrating to see what's happening. It's even more frustrating how much hate and personal animosity is floating around the U.S. these days. I have to take a break from writing political hubs every so often because I just get sick of the hate mail. It's like World Federation Wrestling match. It's juvenile and hateful and boring. When I was a kid people could disagree and live side by side and treat each other with respect. Sadly those days seem to be gone.


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elb22 7 years ago from California

WOW! What a load of self pity BS. Poor liberals...no one wants to shake hands over the aisle with bad policy that will destroy our childrens futures :( Do you think that we should say yes just because your president's "party of change" ideas are "different" There is nothing different happening and we are not going to let the country be destroyed for the sake of some hippie socialist experiment. I guess the problem is that you think we are the party of panderers and we are not. What will happen is the same thing that happens every time there is a liberal power house in washington. Your administration will pass tax and spend legislation and alleged reform policy based on our great great grandchildrens income tax potential and then the will leave the office to 8 or 12 years of conservative power during which we will try to fix and undo all the damage you have done. It happened with Carter and again after Clinton and it will most assuredly happen with Obama. You are not the party of NO you are the party of Yes to anything that opposes the right. I am trying to leave the partisan politics behind me because I feel that they are at the root of some of our biggest political problems but it will never happen when the entire news media insists on pointing fingers and labeling party politics...and yes I am including Limbaugh and Hannity and Oriely Et Al..!!


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Pgrundy,

Thanks for the commnent, your input is always welcomed, even when you disagree. I agree, it is sad that debate no longer exists, rather now its just yelling and screaming from both sides. But in terms of political attack, I think the Republicans are better at it. But my question still remains, if the Republicans disagree so much with what is going on, much of which they would have voted for had McCain won (the bailouts), where is their plan. Where are their ideas?


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Elb,

Thanks for the comment. I don't think this is self pity, I think it is the truth. The Republicans only say no. I would love some grand conservative plan to fix the economy, healthcare, education, to be introduced. It shouldn't matter that they don't have the votes. The Republicans are wasting a great opportunity to show they can be a party of ideas right now.

As for the tax and spend; Bush did the spending, but didn't do the taxes. Thus, a huge deficit.

But I agree, the partisanship needs to stop, here, on Fox, and on MSNBC. I don't believe CNN has totally drank the coolaid as they put effective Republicans on every segment to speak for their side. Most are former Reagan advisors (Ed Rollings) and some worked for Romney and Huckabee.

We need actual statesman in Washington on both sides. I think Obama could be one, but he is stuck in the mud right now. The old days of debate and compromise produced good results.

So what is the idea from the right? I really want to know.


pgrundy 7 years ago

elb22--I don't feel sorry for myself, I just remember a time when people had manners and knew enough not to open their mouths unless they had something constructive and decent to say. Your personal attack on me (which by the way is completely devoid of any actual solutions to replace the ones proposed by this President) proves my point and the point of bgpappa's hub.

The Republican Party has cast its lot with its reactionary right wing base and at present has nothing to offer but hysterical, non-constructive criticism and vitriol. Some of us are still trying to be adults here.

The health care system in the U.S. is about to go into meltdown mode, and 77% of the country supports a single payer option, yet there isn't one on the table because Republican scare tactics are helping to protect the interests of the drug and insurance companies. You don't want socialized medicine? Come up with a working solution then. I don't hear that from anyone on the right, just a lot of immature bitching and moaning and quite a lot of hysterical accusations that make no sense whatsoever.

What people on the right SHOULD be worrying about (instead of the possibility that the US might turn into a repressive socialist regime...like Sweden) is the imminent meltdown of our health care system, which cannot sustain the burden of double digit premium increases year after year for more than another year, maybe two. We're at critical mass right now with that, and as for socialism--we have three socialist programs in place right now: social security, the VA, and medicare. Should we dump all three? Great idea. Let's dump all of those for the sake of some insane right wing ideology. Better we should be ideologically pure and consistent than socialist. Veterans, old people, poor people, screw those people, huh? So long as you've got yours, it's all good.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

pgrundy,

As usual you made my point better than I ever could. I would only add that the VA and Medicare have the highest level of patient satisfaction in the country. Higher than any private or other public plan on the market.

Thanks for the comment.


Underwater man 7 years ago

I just read your Hub and I don't agree with one thing you said but I do have a question for you. Where were you while Bush was in did you say the same thing about the mainstream media when they said thing about Bush when the democrates said no. Did you say they were tellin lies? Or when they voted to fund the war but then said they didn't think it was a just war. This is the problem I have with the liberal base of the Democratic party you think that every thing this Guy says is right you don't look to see where it put's this country. If you all had your way we would taxes the rich 100% of their income because they are to rich. Tell me when was the last time that homeless person you pass by on the way to get your Starbucks coffee gave you a Job? You are a fool and that is sad.


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bgpappa 7 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Wow, you managed to write an entire paragraph without really saying anything.

Democrats put forward plans during the Bush years. Oh, and they worked with him on many things. To say Democrats funded the war and then called it an unjust war is simply a lie. They funded the troops who were fighting, but then argued agaisnt the very war they were fighting. Would you rather the Democrats not give the troops what they needed in the field. We all support the troops and have every right to argue against the policy.

By the way, read more of my stuff, I don't agree with everything Obama says. In fact, I have railed against him, PETA and other liberals who I think are wrong.

The Republicans have done nothing. Their party was in power when the economic crisis started. They started two wars. It took eight years to get where we are. Now they do nothing. They offer no plans (Except for John McCain who to be fair has been out promoting ideas, and a few are pretty good). They only offer fear.

Yes, the rich should have to pay 1 percent more in taxes. They got a giant tax cut under Bush, which many Democrats supported. It hurt the economy. Nobody is asking them to pay it back, only to pay a small what they were paying before Bush. But as Republicans never look beyond their own self interest, they will say no to that too.

Thanks for reading and thanks for the comment.

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