Sequestration? Not His Idea?

"We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater..." Admiral Obama speaks...

Frog Shakes Head...

I could spend pages fact checking Obama on the foreign policy debate and pointing out his lies, some would prefer that I call them fabrications but they'd still be lies. I will instead zero in on a very serious subject that will affect the military - sequestration. Lost in all the rhetoric is the fact that the US Constitution outlines the primary role of the federal government as the defense of this nation. Liberals can dispute that until the chickens come home but that's what it says.

Yes, as usual, Obama was his usual sarcastic self during the "Empty Binder" debate but that is his schtick. He has nothing else left in his bag of stupid tricks to feed his sheeple. I never expect, nor desire, my President to be a flaming butt hole but I got one this time around. I used the graphic above to illustrate his lack of knowledge of warfare. I posted the graphic around here and there on forums to illustrate Obama boning up on his naval strategy. All hands on deck, we have an idiot at the helm!

How Many Pinocchio's You Want?

Last night Obama asserted that the sequestration cuts, which gouge the military's budget by a half-trillion dollars "will not happen." And he went even further with his fairy tale for the masses. He claimed it was the idea of Congress. Supposing that was so, which it isn't, who signed the bill Hussein? You took the same dictatorial powers that your namesake had, did ya? Lets talk facts now that the lies have been told with the Blaminator-in-Chief spin attached to them.

Obama's assertion took Congress by surprise. They've been working to reverse course since the whole fiasco was set up trying to smoke and mirrors the public with their debt deal shenanigans. So whose idea was it you ask? Obama said it "wasn't something I proposed." That's a play on words folks. Then he went further and said "It is something Congress proposed. It will not happen." So back to who proposed it? It was his current chief of staff Jacob Lew. When did he propose it? when he headed Obama's Office of Management & Budget. WHOOPS! Caught in the trap Barky.

Need Some Proof?

Accountability aside there is the concept of legislative responsibility. It became a law and one that Obama actually signed himself. Now he does have a bad habit of ignoring federal laws which he disagrees with but if he disagreed with this one then why did he sign it? In his post debate interview, John McCain pointed out that Obama isn't a dictator yet. He's like to be but I don't have that happening. A followup with Rep. Buck McKeon (R-Calif.), Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, said: "It's a nice line, but for more than a year, the President hasn't lifted a finger to avert the crisis... Jobs have already been lost. The President and his party in the Senate have failed to offer even a single real solution that could resolve sequestration. If the President is determined that these cuts won't happen, why has he drug it out so long?" Buck it's called Chicago style politics.

So then what happens? Team Obama starts walking Obama back immediately. Take a listen.

Walk The Dog Back...

"Will not" became "should not" by the Obama handlers. Obama knows nothing of the military. His horse and bayonets remark was off the mark. As many pointed out, our armed forces still train with bayonets. When the stuff hits the fan sometimes it can come to that. It's called hand-to-hand combat and it still happens.

The horses have been substituted by iron horses Barky. Bayonets still get attached to bayonet studs at the end of rifle barrels. Maybe it is Obama who needs to understand more about what the military is about. Semper Fi Marines! I've been there and done that and Obama has not a clue about any of it. As far as naval power, it takes a mix of ships to get the job done and protect the sea lanes of the world. Admiral Obama needs to stick to being a community organizer and leave the work of men to men. The armed forces began fighting under the "combined arms concept" decades ago. something Obama has no knowledge of.

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The Frog Prince

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Wayne Brown 4 years ago from Texas

Obama's observation comes from his faith that the liberal left are going to win back all majority positions in the government and install their Marxist Revolution over his next four years in office with Harry Reid leading the legislative charge. Regardless, he will still blame the conservatives for whatever position he appears forced to take. He is looking for any flimsy excuse to circumvent the Constitution and soften up the American public to th idea that the document just needs to go away. After all, Obama is in charge! Good stuff, Frog! ~WB


Pino Krisio 4 years ago

Frog Prince: I was equally shocked by Obama's statement that the sequestration would not happen. This has been his way of blackmailing Congress to get what he wanted; however, I think they are calling his bluff and he is trying to backtrack his words. Funny how he can fumble without a teleprompter. See you at BP's virtual bar.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Pino - That whole exercise was a setup to raise the debt ceiling. Amazing how many smoke and mirrors acts I've witnessed come out of this administration. See ya at the Inn.

TFP


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34th Bomb Group 4 years ago from Western New York State

An entire election can hang on one word - as you've pointed out Your Royal Highness.

In my world the words were "may" and "shall." If you SHALL do something you damn well better do it or you're going back to the pokey.

Bottom line? The man lies through his teeth, Condescending ass.


Stu 4 years ago

Sequestration was a done deal before it ever went into effect. Obama knew that any serious budget deal from Congress would never be signed, because the House would want relatively more cuts from entitlements, the Senate would want relatively more cuts to the military, and almost nobody in Congress would agree to cuts in the federal civil service. Having no restraints in place would lead to deficits even Obama couldn't tolerate politically, so sequestration was put on the table in the knowledge that the two houses of Congress could not agree on a budget. Sequestration was less a "prod" to get a budget agreement out of Congress than it was a political maneuver to protect the Administration from a voter backlash over deficits that materially exceeded those of the past three years. Although it would take alot of political courage, the better approach would have been to temporarily shut down the federal government (with the exception of the military and first responder services) to force Congress to pass a budget. I know it would cause some domestic panic, and make us look bad internationally, but sensible budget cuts never come from thoughtless "formula based" methods like sequestration. You need to look at what you're spending and where, and make detailed "line item" decisions about what to reduce or eliminate. Federal spending that violates enumerated powers should come first. Federal spending that is harmful rather than helpful should come second. Federal spending whose cost exceeds the benefit should come third. Federal spending that is necessary but excessive or fraud ridden should reduced as a fourth measure. The idea is to get federal spending down to a level such that most of the off balance sheet debt can be abrogated, and the official investor owned debt can be paid off over a few decades with at most temporary modest tax increases (taxes probably being the biggest political hot potato of all). The correct spending cut decisions would be tough medicine for the public to swallow, and members of Congress would at least temporarily be vilified by the voters, but real leadership is not about popularity. Congress does not exist to provide what the people want; it exists to implement what the people should want. Sadly, the President took a course that protected himself and Congress from an immediate voter backlash, at the expense of not solving the budget shortfall, and allowing the debt crisis to continue to get more severe.


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tsadjatko 4 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

LMAO - Admiral Obama! He would have made a wonderful corpse man!


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poetvix 4 years ago from Gone from Texas but still in the south. Surrounded by God's country.

BUSTED! I so love it when you bust him in lies and this was a big one! The man has no military background at all. As I understand it, he's a disbarred lawyer, as is his wife, and community organizer. So, hm, we have someone good at throwing block parties and arguing though not allowed to do so in court anymore leading our military? DUH! Anyone that votes for him is crazy. Keep on telling it, Sir Frog. You are a true patriot.


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drbj 4 years ago from south Florida

"We have these ships that go underwater ... " and pronouncing corpsman as corpseman. Sometimes it's those little things that show the world how ignorant and foolish one may be.


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Pamela99 4 years ago from United States

Obama's sarcasm and remarks made him look stupid! I thought Romney could have come on a little stronger, especially in the first part of the debate, but he did get several points across and I hope people were listening. Sharing hub.


Ghost32 4 years ago

Frog: Did a little fact checking of my own, Jim. Yep...even though I was only in the Army for the 2 years it took to satisfy my draft obligation, I do recall training with bayonets. I'm sure you remember the old saying about there being only 2 kinds of bayonet fighters:

THE QUICK AND THE DEAD.

And yep, my Army lifer nephew, he trained with bayonets.

One more nephew, 6 years in the Marines, 3 tours in Iraq...you KNOW the answer to THAT one.

I'm willing to bet we DON"T have "fewer bayonets" than we did back in the day, should anyone actually to check the military inventory.


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Ken Burgess 4 years ago from Florida

Come on now, admit it, you secretly think Obama is great for our country. Really now... how else will we be able to have a real honest to goodness 'Red Dawn' type of scenario occur if we never let China surpass us on the World Stage, and then weaken our military enough to embolden our enemies into invading?

Isn't that what we really all want, a little bit more adventure in our lives?

Hasn't it become boring knowing we go to sleep every night safe, with any type of grocery or fuel just down the street, easy to acquire?

We've been watching chaos and upheaval hit every part of the world the past 50 years, yet with the exception of 9/11, we have never been able to enjoy a bit of it here... no civil wars, no governmental collapse, no rioting in the streets, America has become so boring... we might as well be Canada!

So if Obama wins another four years, just stock up on some non-perishable foods, some bottled water, if you have rifles (like I do) or handguns grab up some extra ammo, might want to have a couple 10 gallon containers of gas handy too... you have time, things won't get desperate under Obama's continued collapse of America until he is about ready to leave office. Just plan ahead, and get ready for some good ol'fashioned civil unrest and upheaval.


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34th Bomb Group 4 years ago from Western New York State

I'm with Stu - 100%.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Patti - The whole thing was a smoke and mirrors routine in order to raise the debt ceiling. Obama knew that going in and sent Lew to Reid's office to cut the deal. It's called backroom politics and is a famous Chicago style move.

The Frog


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tsadjatko 4 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Ken...shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuusssshhh. We's all with ya, just don't want 'em knowin' or dem be comin' to get y'all guns ('n stuff, y'all).


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abbykorinnelee 4 years ago from Ripon Wisconsin

Ghost, I like your comment. It always helps to double check facts.


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tsadjatko 4 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Ghost - Obama said, "You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military's changed."

From the department of picayune fact-checking: The U.S. Army has 419,155 bayonets in its inventory. The Marine Corps has about 195,334 bayonets (and has plans to acquire 175,061 more).

That's a total of 614,489 bayonets with 175,061 to be added. Keith Koffler adds everything up:

Given that there were about 200,000 men in the Army and National Guard in 1916, according to National Review, that would mean that there are three times as many bayonets today and probably will be at least four times as many than before World War I.

So President Obama made bayonets sound like buggy whips at Monday’s presidential debate, but the fact is they’re still standard issue for Marines. Just goes to show you that even when preparing zingers for a debate the President and his handlers don't even care if they have their facts straight - they just go with what they (in their bubble) think sounds good even if it defies common sense...but then what would you expect from a President who thinks corpsman is pronounced corpse man...and Trump wonders why he won't release his college records? (they all probably feel war and anything associated with it is obsolete so they just don't care).


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

tsad - There are more than a few of us out here that view Obama's childishness on the campaign trail and during the debates as Un-Presidential to say the least. When the focus becomes Big Bird, binders, bayonets and other nonsense you know the guy has no record to run on he reverts back to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

There is so much video of Obama's statements in the past that I'm not sure why he expects to get aay with a lot of what he says now. You can't vote "Present" when you're the President.

The Frog


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

abby - Here's something to consider as you consider.

http://hubpages.com/politics/The-Fear-Of-Defeat...


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Fred & tsadjatko - I think both of you will appreciate this new graphic.

http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv178/TheFrogPr...

TFP


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tsadjatko 4 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

lol! You hear how Obama advises people to talk to their 6 year old children? Executive editor Eric Bates after an interview with Barrachio told Obama that he had asked his six-year-old if there was anything she wanted him to say to the president. . . . [S]he said, ‘Tell him: You can do it.’ Obama grinned. . . . ‘You know, kids have good instincts,’ Obama offered. ‘They look at the other guy and say, ‘Well, that’s a bullshitter, I can tell.’ ”

Most people have serious difficulties attributing this to a six year-old. Six year-olds don’t look at political candidates and use that word, unless they have been reared badly. But there you have another insight into how the mind of "the Messiah" works.

So in the spirit of unicorns with bayonets, now I guess it is OK to say Obama is just a "Horse S'er" (loonies, please send your email comments to the frog prince, my inbox is full :-)


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abbykorinnelee 4 years ago from Ripon Wisconsin

I have a weird question...so...some of the things being said, makes me wonder if there are some of you that think it is possible that this man could be that whole third Antichrist. Because if you do believe Revelations, there is going to be a man that sounded in physical stature much like Obama..NOW...I am just curious as I am not a decided voter...and I am very interested in that stuff I just mentioned...it just seems that is what a lot of you seem to be saying maybe even without realizing it.


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tsadjatko 4 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Well if you are referring to the Messiah comments they have nothing to do with any religious book - Obama himself in 2008 painted himself to be the Messiah to save America, and the concept was gladly adopted by the left and ridiculed by the right. One looks to the American people to save the country; the other to a messiah named Obama.

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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

abby - What I do know is that the "cult of personality" thing I see surrounding Obama is disturbing. There are people out there that take what Obama has to say as gospel even though his record shows just the opposite. I don't have that much faith in any politician walking the face of the earth. What I also know is that Obama told the nation he had the answers to the problems of the recession. He didn't, doesn't and won't because you don't spend your way out of an economic hole. Never has worked and never will. The government isn't the answer to our problems. It usually is the problem.

Listen to this video closely and the words he said. This sort of thing is how the Messiah thing got started and he started getting ridiculed. Kind of Jim Jones like and he wasn't a good idea either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pZSvq9bto

Obama has no humility and he has failed to do what he said he would do. If they don't do the job then we need to start letting them go as Clint Eastwood so recently said.

The Frog


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abbykorinnelee 4 years ago from Ripon Wisconsin

Yeah I see your point and isn't Romney just as sleazy like that? Only asking because my father supports him and I asked why the hell he would be an idiot and say the stuff he said about abortion and women and that...because also it was religious based reasons and that bothers me. It wasn't about the actual issue for voting I was just asking on a moral level as a human being imagining having to live in a world where I was not allowed to have sex unless I was trying to have a baby, no abortions were performed because of religion laws, and this pre-feminim life...lol..it was just a question about a human being not politics...he said none of it wold happen I said I know but he still said it...well he told me that he needed the fundamentalist vote and so he lied to get it...I was appalled because it was so matter of fact...if he lied to get their vote that openly what else is he lying about? That was sleazy...character wise...Seems when he says he is so honest he isn't...doesn't this kind of fit into that whole third anti-christ coming under the guise of a leader who is a strong christian values....um....scary shit man....doesn't matter what person does that its crazy. This is out of the scope of an election...speaking strictly as people and values and the qualities of the antichrist stance. What did you truly think of that?

I may like some of Obama's things he did...BUT I take no man's word as gospel..only gospel I read is the Bible's and I read it myself no one will interpret it for me. But the bible was still written by man and so some is still only a story not literal....I think for myself...so I won't be one of those people that make the mistake to follow someone that closely....it would be like blindly following Hitler...he mesmerized people as a public speaker...I would have been the note taker in the back and a laptop and ten windows up with google...lol.

I don't have faith in any politician...its politics...


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

abby - Romney is opposed to abortion. Polls say the trend concerning pro-life has tilted to that very position. I stay out of that debate right now because this election is about the economy, not reproductive rights. Roe v. Wade is the law. It is still the law. The other federal law is that no federal funds will be spent on abortion. Obama is finding ways around that law as we speak.

If a woman wants an abortion then she needs to pay for it, not me. I don't want to pay for someone else's irresponsible behavior. I also don't want the First Amendment trampled on in the process of making something like that happen. I suggest that you read credible news sources. If you watch MSNBC stop and switch to the Cartoon Channel. You'll learn more there actually.

The Frog


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abbykorinnelee 4 years ago from Ripon Wisconsin

Okay so why did he say, and I watching him say it, on valid sources, as he said he would ban abortion and make the U.S. a pro-life nation. I wasn't hallucinating.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Those are his personal religious beliefs. I also think you are misinterpreting exactly what he said. Many of the Catholic faith say the same things. The US is moving toward a pro-life stance within our majority. Live with it.

The Frog


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abbykorinnelee 4 years ago from Ripon Wisconsin

I am living with it and I understand that fully, but its not that he belives that...it's the way he portrays himself. And I also know all about the Catholic faith as I was Roman Catholic and decided to walk away from organized religion. He can believe whatever he wants but how you say things and present yourself is important is all. And truth is, according to my political culture and religion class, only 40 percent of this nation cares about religion and less in regards to politics. The survey that he showed us that was just done can prove this and if you want I can get the information for you from him. My professor also said that less than half are white in this entire nation now. When we did the values section of this, it was shown that this nation is sig. more pro-choice. So, as I said that was given to us, from a valid source, from a man with a PhD. I can live with it but I can also question it. If I don't, than I turn into someone that just accepts and never challenges or stands up for something important and sits back expecting change and complaining but never doing shit about it. You are mistaking my inquiries as a persnal feeling of mine and I have left all that out or I would be talking about what an arrogant asshole the guy is. Hell, I know the real issue doesn't mean all of it can't be explored.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

He just happens to running to be the CEO of this nation so I think the people need to know what his beliefs are. I don't agree with some of them but I disagree with a lot more of Obama's socialist leanings so there ya have it.


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abbykorinnelee 4 years ago from Ripon Wisconsin

Okay point taken...so, as long as Planned Parenthood isn't federally funded but still performs abortions it's not the issue? So, turn it into an organization that is funded by donations and charge those that can afford it like they did to me and ask those that can't pay for at least whatever they can afford and make them provide documentation of their income. That would be fine. I think he should try re-phrasing his statements as not "we will get rid of it" and instead say "we will stop the federal funding". Than there is no misunderstanding and he is being more articulate.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Not to me it isn't. Romney has never said he can close PP. It's a private organization. But federal funds to them and many others need to end. We cannot afford to subsidize every swinging cause that comes along. The primary role of the federal government is the defense of this nation. It's right there in the US Constitution. We can't afford to be everything to everybody nor should we be.

If abortion is murder then a woman can discuss that with God at the appropriate time. I feel it is murder myself but it's a woman's choice at the present time. She can pay for one if she wants one.

TFP


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abbykorinnelee 4 years ago from Ripon Wisconsin

I have a problem with it sometimes we have to make choices against our beliefs, for me it was my four kids that I have to think about. I see your point...I may have misinterpreted it but I did because of the statement "we will do away with it" the it I thought it was the PP itself...if it was funding I guess he should have said funding. Yeah, we all answer to God one day. I just don't want to live where religion is the basis for the government's decesions.

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