Sex, Lies and Videotape

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Harlotte Spins a Web

Good Morning, Breakfastpoppers. Today is Sunday, October 9, 2016. Our artisan friend, Spider Harlotte, is with us for a very late breakfast today. She has asked me to invite all the Poppers to an impromptu meal to discuss the latest insanity associated with the presidential campaign. Please join Harlotte and me for French toast and Champagne. We hope to see you soon.

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It's Finger Pointing Time

Thank you so much for joining me on such late notice. By now I am sure you are all aware of the latest mess Donald Trump has found himself in. The Washington Post dug up an old video of him discussing women in a particularly vulgar way. It hit the airwaves, as planned, and all the sanctimonious hypocrites joined in a collective verbal beating of Trump. Everyone was outraged and disgusted, and to a certain extent I get it. Having said that, I want to know where the outrage is when it comes to Bill and Hillary Clinton's actual real time behavior? I am not talking about words, I am talking about actions. Does the fact that Clinton, as president, climbed under his desk with a young intern and performed disgusting sexual acts, that I prefer not to mention, enter into the picture at all? So far, I have seen precious little attention paid to all the affairs he has had and all the accusations of sexual assault from women who have crossed his path. Remember Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, Eileen Wellstone, Carolyn Moffet, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Becky Brown, Helen Dowdy and Cristy Percher? Bill Clinton has been accused of rape and sexual assault. All the while his wife, who wants to be president, stood by him and reportedly treated these women worse than he did. Where is the outrage? Why aren't Democrats jumping ship? The argument that he is not running for president doesn't hold water. Hillary has stated that she will put Bill in charge of the economy, which is a mess. In effect, he is running, and they are both less fit to serve than Trump. Women who have had contact with Trump have nothing bad to say about him. I am not defending his disgusting vulgarity, but it pales by comparison to the harm that both Bill and Hillary have caused for decades.

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Hypocrisy

Although politicians and private citizens like to pretend that they live by a high moral code, the truth is a far different matter. We have a long history in our nation of electing presidents who make a habit of cheating on their wives, believing that their behavior will never be discovered, or if discovered, reported. For a long time that was true, but now we have a press that picks and chooses who they will expose. Thomas Jefferson, Warren Harding, Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and Bill Clinton carried on with other women while sitting in the Oval Office. I remind myself that this list is probably missing quite a few other names, but for the moment my point is that low morals and power definitely have more than a passing connection. Donald Trump made his comments years ago, and all the while he was a private citizen not responsible for protecting our nation from harm. The sight and sound of all these Republicans wringing there hands in shame over this old tape, makes me want to gag almost as much as what Trump said. Their behavior is reprehensible. I suppose they are hoping that by condemning Trump they will elevate themselves. That is never going to happen. Making sure that crooked Hillary takes control is akin to treason in my book. If America wants to hit a reset button for this election, kick both the candidates to the curb, but don't stand behind a woman who has a long history of lying about matters of national security. and just about everything else. The American people deserve better than Hillary and Bill Clinton.

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Before the Debate

I am talking about this prior to the presidential debate, because I doubt that anything of value or substance will emerge from the town hall forum. Trump's words from 2005 will stupidly permeate the room and most probably force out any chance for a substantive discussion about real issues, like the economy, our borders and national security. I hope I am wrong. In fact, I pray that I am wrong.

Harlotte's Song

Oh, what a tangled web we weave

When first we practice to deceive

Sir Walter Scott

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WillStarr 2 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

How can anyone watch this video and still vote for Hillary Clinton?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoRcPXURwg


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WillStarr 2 months ago from Phoenix, Arizona

Great post, Pop, but it will fall on mostly deaf ears. I have come to understand that morality no longer matters in American politics. All that matters is 'what's in it for me?"


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear Will,

Thanks for posting this video. I wish it would see the light of day, but our press is owned and operated by the Dems, so it will remain in darkness. Morality only is applicable to the "other"guy. I keep thinking of something my Grandmother used to say. "Lie down with dogs and wake up with fleas." Fleas abound in Washington. See you at the Inn.


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savvydating 2 months ago

In some ways I was glad this revelation came out. This should be a wake-up call for Donald Trump. He needs to understand that he has to be more respectful of women--- for his sake, his family's sake, for Barron's sake and for the sake of the Presidency and for Americans whose country will be lost if Hillary wins.

Trump also has to realize that running an election is not a reality show. He really needs to "get that" and apologize sincerely. (It would help if he laid off the tweeting)

Anyway, my point is that God can use this situation and turn it around for good---by making Trump understand that respectfulness matters, that he needs to stay out of the dog fight and concentrate on issues that really matter. Can Trump overcome his pride? So far, it doesn't look good, but if he could, he still has a chance to win.

Yes, I understand all too well that Hillary is the biggest hypocrite in this country and that her moralizing is beyond nauseating, but right now, Trump has to show American's that he is the better choice. It's an uphill battle for him as long as he keeps shooting himself in the foot and going on the defensive.

Frankly, now is the time for us to get down on our knees and pray.

On a happier note. Champagne and French toast! Yum!!!


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Tom Whitworth 2 months ago from Moundsville, WV

Pop and Harlotte,

The release of this video on the same day that Wikileaks released Podesta's email is no coincidence. The Clinton campaign had it and kept it for a counter to any bad news about the FELON.


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Jackie Lynnley 2 months ago from The Beautiful South

Oh, please. How many of us would like what we say behind closed doors to come out or those we know! It should stay behind closed doors and everyone deserves that privacy. Even Bill Clinton's mess behind closed doors is none of our business unless it is breaking the law or happening in the Oval Office! He made it our business as does Hillary with her mouth full of lies and double crossing ways! How she fools so many is beyond me. They must be real idiots. I know Trump is far from perfect but unless God comes down from Heaven, Trump is our only hope!


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Der savvydating,

I agree, Trump has a lot of work to do, but so do the American people. We have to decide among admittedly less than perfect choices which way to go. Beyond doubt, given what we have, Hillary is the wrong choice. See you at the Inn. We can watch the debate together.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear Tom,

None of this is coincidence. It is a planned farce played upon the American people. It is not enjoyable to say the least. See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear Jackie,

It feels so good to hear the voice of reason. Thank you! If only enough voters feel the same way. If not, I can't imagine our future. See you at the Inn.


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Old Poolman 2 months ago from Rural Arizona

In politics like most things, timing is everything. The fact that this tape existed didn't just happen on the spur of the moment. It was held back to use as first-aid to counter what they knew was coming out regarding Hillary.

They also knew, or arranged for, the Media to be all over the Trump story and completely ignore the Hillary leaked emails story. They couldn't ignore the Hillary story unless they had something they deemed more important to splatter out on every available TV and print source.

Thanks to the biased Media, Trump will have a heck of a time overcoming this well planned attack.

Tonight's debate should be very interesting.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear Mike,

The manipulation and deceit associated with this campaign and election is devastating. The losers are the electorate. They won't know anything the MSM doesn't want them to know. The bottom line is that to the establishment, Trump is an intruder who cannot be tolerated. They must be working overtime to uncover crap about his past. See you at the Inn. I will save you a seat.


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Dont Taze Me Bro 2 months ago from Tazeland Islands

Well said BP, but you totally ignored the real issue. If Trump is elected one must believe his lewd comments from years ago could mean he will be, I think the word Comey used was, "sloppy" with our national security (others might make the case of being criminally negligent), or those lewd comments might indicate he could lie and blame a video for an attack on one of our embassies, or it could mean that he would aid and abet and enable someone in his family to serially abuse women. I mean there is no telling what a few lewd statements over ten years ago could mean to our national security or perhaps give an look at the possibility he will be running a pay to play scheme amounting to billions of dollars giving foreign countries access to having some say in our future. There is just no telling what those lewd comments could mean.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear Don't Taze Me,

OMG, is Trump Clinton from another mother? I can't believe we have fallen so far from grace. See you at the Inn.


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savvydating 2 months ago

I will be watching the debate with you, Pop. I think Jackie should join us. As savvydating, someone who insists on respecting women, I am not so naive as to think that plenty of men don't think the same way. Is that okay? No. But can this be a learning experience for Trump? Yes.

You know, the truth is, he could use this opportunity to rise above the machinations of the Clinton team and to understand that he has a responsibility to the American public to prove that he can make America Great Again.

Will he take that challenge? I hope so, because you and I know that Hillary has already sold her soul to the highest Saudi bidder. You know, those guys with the documented, horrific human rights abuses...


Jennifer 2 months ago

It is a witch hunt. Nothing more, nothing less. Maybe I'm crazy but I am hopeful. If not for hope, What do we have left?

As for Bill, it seems like yesterday he gave his famous speech how he did NOT have sexual relations with that woman. But Trump is the bad guy demoralizing women.

The Clintons have gotten a free pass on so much, I can't wait to see the debate tonight. I hope she has to answer some serious questions. Gotta get my wine and popcorn ready! I'll bring it to the Inn


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fpherj48 2 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Talk is cheap. "Words" are not actions. Some things simply should not be spoken, whether you're running for a political office or you deliver the mail or sell shoes. There's such a thing as social acceptability & using common sense, male or female, during conversations in public.

Having said this, DT needs to brace himself for the backlash he'll surely experience for some time. He has apologized publicly for his disrespectful verbiage in 2005 while using (in his words) "locker room talk." Will this be enough to satisfy the voters? For most of his supporters, it probably is. For Clinton supporters, he just gave them another reason to slam him. DT has only himself to blame.

Comparing Trumps language to Bill Clinton's actions is not advisable nor wise or even helpful. Bill Clinton is not the Democratic candidate. Hillary is.

This campaign has been, IS and will go down in history as the most bizarre and controversial of all time. With 29 days left, election day simply can't arrive soon enough!


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Good Morning savvy dating,

As usual the moderators went after Trump. They interrupted him at least 13 times. They interrupted Queen Hillary twice. Although it was supposed to be a town hall, hardly anyone from the audience asked questions. Hillary saying that when she spoke about acid washing tapes she was referring to Abraham Lincoln knocked me off my chair. I heard that video has emerged of Bill actually groping women! The Clintons win for being the most disgusting corrupt people on the planet. See you at the Inn and we'll talk some more.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Good Morning Jennifer,

In my view Trump took total control last night with the deck stacked against him. I find it incredible that in all of this nation we cannot find moderators who aren't obviously biased. In any case, let's hope Trump wins and Hillary goes to jail. Someone sent me a picture of Chelsea reading a book to her daughter entitled, "Nana Goes to Jail." Have a great day and I'll see you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Good Morning fp,

I think Trump had to fight back last night. In any case, these debates rarely change minds. This election is painful to say the least. If Hillary wins, painful will have a new meaning. See you at the inn.


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billybuc 2 months ago from Olympia, WA

Well, your prediction about the debate was smack on. And you are right about the hypocrisy. Hillary would have been better served if she just refused to comment.


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Dont Taze Me Bro 2 months ago from Tazeland Islands

Comparing Trumps language to Bill Clinton's actions is advisable and even helpful and I'll tell you why. It is because Bill Clinton was the Democratic candidate at one time and the media and the Democrat Party had America believing HE was fit to govern despite what he DID, not said, in private.

And what did that comparison tell us? It told us, the Democrat leadership at the time (and actually the electorate by electing Bill twice) told us his private life, no matter how he treated women (not with words but actions) was his private life and none of our business, and it shouldn't mean he is unfit to govern. He was elected twice despite a history of womanizing and with a cadre of women accusing him of sexual assault and even rape in his wake.

So what that comparison tells us is the Democrats and much of the electorate decided during Bill's terms that a man's treatment of women, verbally and even physical does not mean he is unfit to govern (unless he is a Republican?).

It also tells us the inevitable fact that Hillary enabled her husband's worst behavior not just words (and by her own bullying of women), that she knew her husband had engaged in his whole adult life and if DT is unfit to govern because of a few words, what is she? Fit to govern? Fit to get the respect of women after enabling what her husband did, both of which, her husband's history and her enabling are far worse than some "locker room banter"?

Well when it comes to being called unfit to govern where do you draw the line, IS it at talk or Is it actions? And I'll tell you now it has nothing to do with what the meaning of IS is.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Good Morning billy,

Hillary would be better served in prison! See you at the Inn and we'll talk about something other than the election.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear Taze,

Well said! This is what voters should be thinking, but alas "thinking" doesn't always enter into the discussion. Voters today "feel" and they don't want to be confused with facts. I read that there is video showing Bill actually groping a woman! This election has given new meaning to the term "gutter politics." See you at the Inn.


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greenmind 2 months ago

Bill isn't running for President. The man who IS running has described his own actions very clearly, and they're sexual assault. Why do you think he's losing and his allies are deserting him?


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Dont Taze Me Bro 2 months ago from Tazeland Islands

Greenmind, do you know how silly you sound. So now in your mind sexual assault doesn't require physical proof or at least an accusation by a victim but just a lewd comment in private, it's thoughts or words said, not the actual act? btw, even in his words or aside from them no one said that his remarks that he kissed or groped a woman was unwanted, now did they? To the contrary according to what he said if you insist on believing it, it was wanted. You are just zombified by Hillary's attempt to keep to keep the focus on demeaning her opposition rather than on her failed and/or proposed policies.


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fpherj48 2 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Pop.....DT definitely did a fine job last night. Let's hope this is the general consensus. I found the very best part was the audience loud cheer when he replied to Hillary's attempted insult by saying, "You'd be in jail." Could not agree more that the moderators thus far, have ALL treated DT rudely while using kid gloves on Queen Thug.......


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Old Poolman 2 months ago from Rural Arizona

I am truly amazed that we now have so many delicate little flowers living in our midst. This goes for both men and women. They are so shocked by something that was said in private over ten years ago they are ready to hand over our country to the queen of Socialism.

We have members of Congress who are denouncing Trump over this issue as if they have never heard anything like this in their backroom meetings with their booze and cigars. We have people denouncing Trump who have themselves said the same or worse about women in their locker rooms, frat houses, poker games, or similar places.

If those Congressional members are that delicate perhaps they are in completely the wrong job?

In truth we have members of Congress who pretended to support Trump because it was the PC thing to do at the time. All they needed was one excuse to back out of their commitment and they found it. Shame on them is all I can say.

The truth is that many members of Congress are scared to death of Trump because he knows way too much about them. He knows which one's are open to bribes and which one's are not. He knows way to much about some of the private parties they have attended and how they behaved at those parties. Heck, he might have overheard them talking about some female using terms that are not socially acceptable.

But they are willing to hand the election to Clinton rather than support the candidate the citizens of this country wanted to represent their party. Every one of these cowards needs to find a new job in my opinion. Perhaps when they come up for reelection we can do something about that.


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jackclee lm 2 months ago from Yorktown NY

Another keen observation. The wizard of Oz is alive and well in 2016. We are being played and this election is not a real event. It was staged from the beginning to end. That is why I stopped paying attention after the primary.


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Old Poolman 2 months ago from Rural Arizona

Jack I often wonder if the election winner isn't decided long before the primaries even take place? Perhaps this year of TV agony we endure is just a show to make us believe we have a voice in the process.


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Mel Carriere 2 months ago from San Diego California

What Trump was saying to his homies in the video sounds a lot like the bombastic banter I hear in the swing room at work sometimes, when there are no females present. I hate to say boys will be boys, but boys will be boys. He actually sounded surprisingly non-arrogant to me on the tape, like he was just one of the guys. Private conversations are private conversations. I think most men have said similar things, then of course didn't act on them because our sweet grandmothers would be rolling over in their sanctified tombs.

There are plenty of other issues one could find fault with Trump, besides focusing on normal male Neanderthal behavior. And of course, as you said, Bill Clinton won't be getting the boy scout merit badge for treating women with respect.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear green mind,

Bill may not be on the ballot but he is running. As I said above Hillary has already said he will be in charge of our failing economy. Bill was president and he was a sexual predator. Nobody gave a damn. Trump has loose lips, but how that compares to rape and sexual assault is beyond me. Hillary is a seasoned liar and we simply can't afford to have her in the WH. i wish we had better candidates, but our system is flawed and that is putting it mildly.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear fp,

Honestly, I think we should dispense wit the debates. We can't find moderators who know how to run a debate? That makes me sick. Hillary is despicable and that's that! See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear Mike,

All I can say is Bravo!!!!! Nobody could have said it better than you. The idiotic and painful hypocrisy out there makes me want to gag. I would love to inject all members of Congress and all Hillary supporters with truth serum. Then I would ask them about therir private and public behavior. They wouldn't be able to lie and the results would be amazing. See you at the Inn, Mike.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear jackleg,

You are right on target. This whole election is a charade. Everything has been orchestrated from the beginning. The media is a part of the play as are members of both parties who are deathly afraid of a Washington outsider getting into the WH. I have no doubt that corruption and fraud will rule the day. If Trump wins I will be shocked. See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 2 months ago Author

Dear Mel,

All I can say is "exactly". We have serious issues facing us in our nation. When Bill was exposed for the predator he is people said it had nothing to do with how he could function as president. What's different now? Nothing, except that the Washington elite don't want an outsider in the WH. See you at the Inn Mel, and thank you for coming to the table.


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kenneth avery 8 weeks ago from Hamilton, Alabama

Hi, breakfastpop,

Terrific hub. Excellent graphics and you drove home your point in flying colors. I am NOT going to vote for Hillary just because of the points you made in THIS hub. Thanks so much.

And if there are any American voters who are "on the bubble" they should wise-up and wake up and see Hillary for what she is: Liar among liars.

And I found out that she supports Globalism that is dangerous to us as a free nation and our rights that WERE Guaranteed to us and future generations in the Constitution.

But if she is elected, we are putting these rights today and of future generations in severe jeopardy.

Please keep on writing these great hubs.

FYI: your "send breakfastpop an email" app on your profile page DOES NOT WORK.

I have been talking to Christy at HP for two days now telling her about this problem. Hopefully it is being fixed.

And, this is all I say before I go: I shared your hub with the rest of my valued followers. You are one of My Valued Followers. I am sorry for not thanking you enough.

Peace to you and yours.

Come by and visit me sometime.

Kenneth


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breakfastpop 8 weeks ago Author

Dear Kenneth,

Thanks so much for your support.You are absolutely right about Hillary's lust for globalism and open borders. She and Obama dream of a one world government where, of course, they are at the top. She is a dangerous woman, with a mouth that makes Trump look like a choir boy. See you at the Inn.


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kenneth avery 8 weeks ago from Hamilton, Alabama

breakfastpop,

You got it.

Stay sharp, cool, and above all, stay yourself.

Love,

Your Friend for Life,

Kenneth


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breakfastpop 8 weeks ago Author

Good Morning Kenneth,

Love you back....

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