"Sorry First Black President Didn't Do A Better Job"

A Ringing Endorsement

Right after the first debate on the 8th of October Kid Rock introduced Paul Ryan at a rally in Rochester, Michigan. The headline was a quote from Kid and not my words. I had a fair idea of the outcome of Obama's only term when he was first elected. He was the most inexperienced, unqualified person to run for the Presidency and he has been a failure based upon his policies, or lack of them, and we can't "change" that. He promised and promised and over promised and many believed him. Dollars to donuts says Kid Rock did too and probably voted for Obama. Their is nothing wrong with having made that mistake the first time but Rock has enough sense to not make the same mistake twice.

Here's a brief video of segments of what he told the crowd that day. For you that suspect slective editing, the whole introduction can be found on YouTube for your viewing and it is 5 minutes and 34 seconds long so help yourselves.

Many who voted for Obama, from both parties and Independents, wanted to give Obama a chance to succeed. What they didn't want to see was a President who has spent his whole term in office campaigning in front of a teleprompter. It's a crutch and I would like to see a President who can think on his feet and not read off of a screen words that someone else is telling him what he needs to say.

Most of us also didn't want to have a President, especially in the economic condition the nation was trying to recover from, who has spent his entire term blaming George W. Bush. He told us that he was up to the job of fixing our economy and he was not up to the task. In fact, he and the Democratic Party went on a wild spending spree like a drunken sailor on shore leave for the first two years of his term. Then the electorate said, "Hold on son. That isn't the change we wanted." He ignored that advice and continued blaming anyone and everyone he could blame for his shortcomings and lack of leadership.

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Kid Rock may indeed lose some fans, maybe even a few friends. If they were supposedly friends they probably weren't worth having. I enjoy some of the Kid's musical work and leave some of it along like the rap pieces he does. But one thing I know about this man is that he is a patriot. He has spent many long weeks in hostile fire areas entertaining our service members. That sets him apart from many in his industry. He has worked within the city of Detroit trying to turn a little of the tide in that disaster area. He knows the deal and has been on the mean streets.

In his own words he told the crowd that "you have to stand for something even if it may alienate a few fans. I'm like that myself. I stand for this principles of this nation and the US Constitution and if I alienate a few people so be it. Kid Rock doesn't sing songs to please everybody and I don't write write articles to please the masses either. We both write to inform in our own way.

No We Can't Afford 4 More Kid Rock!

The Kid saw what many of us saw the night of the first debate. He saw the real Obama. He saw the Obama who doesn't have the answers, just some lame talking points he has used over and over again during his tenure. When called on his failed policies his reaction was to hang his head. You can't defend the indefensible. That's why I don't know why the progressives even try.

Rock summed it up nicely: “But the facts are the facts, and we just saw them come to light at the last debate. With no outside BS, no biased media involved, no interruptions and negative political ads every five seconds, and most importantly, no damned teleprompter.” Those who weren't sipping furiously on their koolaid that night and playing with their Trickle Me Obama doll saw exactly what many of us saw. A failed President with a failed administration full of Chicago thugs and socialists.

When you throw that keg party Rockster send me an invite. Should be fun!

Born Free! We Need To Stay That Way...

Have a little music while you read the comments and make yours.

QUOTE OF THE DAY FROM THE KID: “I also wanna be real clear that I’m very proud to say that we had elected our first black president. I'm sorry he didn't do a better job. I really wish that he would have."

Yeah me too Kid Rock. But it is what it is and we see what we see. He tried and the great social experiment failed. Lets learn from that experience and move on - without Obama. And don't go screaming racist at the top of your lungs. That has nothing to do with any of it.

"Like" It, "Tweet" It, "Pin " It, "Share It" With Your Followers. Time to let em read it.

As Always,

The Frog Prince

Remember In November!

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peanutroaster 4 years ago from New England

I guess Kid Rock doesn't work for the auto industry or have a clue what Romney's "let them go bankrupt" would have done to Michigan and the nation.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Kid Rock lives in Detroit not in your LalaLand Peanut Man. Bankruptcy is exactly where GM should have ended up. The investors in that company lost small fortunes while the UAW was given the company at the tax payer's expense. One thing becomes clearer as you show up on Hubs. I don't believe you pay any income tax, not one red cent. But I'm sure you like to soak up the freebies. Get a life and a brain that functions on a realistic level.

I've written a few articles about GM if you'd like to check them out. I am also aware, which you probably are not, that GM still owes us about $42 billion. I am also aware that analysts are starting to report that GM has one foot on the banana peel again. Also ask the employees of Delphi how they were treated. They lost out big time and the UAW didn't give a damned about them.

Now I suggest that you start maybe reading something besides the Huff & Puff. Don't come on anyone's article without facts son. Your opinion and a buck fifty might get you a cup of coffee at the local diner. Obama is a failure. This is now very obvious.

The Frog


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breakfastpop 4 years ago

Frankly, I still don't understand why anyone was enthralled with Obama. He was completely inexperienced when it came to matters dealing with capitalism and democracy. He leaned in the complete opposite direction which was clearly revealed in his arrogant writing and his own words. He worshipped all the wrong people and brought nothing to the table. Four years later he is even worse than we thought and still there are people who want him back for 4 more years. There is no cure for stupidity. Up and awesome and everything else.


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breakfastpop 4 years ago

GM has screwed the American people out of tons of money, money that will never be repaid. Yes, they should have gone bankrupt.


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peanutroaster 4 years ago from New England

Let's look at our other choice - Privatize social security, vouchers for medicare, create more uninsured Americans, start a few more wars, make it harder for students to go to college, gut regulations that keep Wall St in check, eliminate environmental protections, take away women's healthcare and choice, increase military spending for no reason and pay for it by taxing the middle class to pay for tax cuts for the rich. No thanks.


brs02 4 years ago

PR - You just got schooled and are trying to change the subject. You should also realize that GM did infact go bankrupt and was reorganized under Chapter 11. It was pre-organzied and dubious at best. The law was clearly violated and bond holders were shafted, along with Delphi employees, and others. This was not a corporate bailout, this was the wholesale take over of a company by the DNC and UAW. Match with the transfer of the people's interest in Citi to voting common shares and.....

When the GM execs were neogtiating prior to the take over they should have tossed the keys to the union and walked out before the bankruptcy. At the very least they should have filed in Novemebr of 2008 increasing the odds of a fair and legal bankruptcy. Right now the lunatics are running the asylum.


Stu 4 years ago

Frog - Shortly before the 2008 elections, Michele Bachmann did an interview with MSNBC, and warned viewers about Obama's radical past in Chicago. This interview really needed to go viral, such as via syndication on other broadcast and cable channels. If it had, enough people might have known the truth in advance, and Obama would have lost. Based on this experience, I now look at candidates' Issues pages, check out their voting record if they are an incumbent, and get their history from unbiased web sites. If every voter did this kind of vetting, which really isn't that time consuming, disasters like Obama would have a tough time getting elected.

Mr. Peanut - "Let them go bankrupt" doesn't mean GM or Chrysler would have gone out of business. A bankruptcy court simply would have recapitalized them. Under bankruptcy law, when a company can't pay its liabilities, the common shareholders take a partial or total loss, and a new issue of stock is granted to creditors in exchange for the bonds the company can't pay (i.e., the reason the companies are in bankruptcy court). What Obama did was wipe out the common stockholders, which was correct, but DIDN'T grant ownership of the company to the bondholders, as required by bankruptcy law. He instead committed two major faults: (1) he injected taxpayer money into the companies, even though the taxpayers received no equity in exchange, and (2) allocated all the equity to unionized workers and their pension funds, and as a result cheated the bondholders. Under proper bankruptcy procedures, the bondholders would have ended up owning the company, and workers (unionized and not) would have had to take a hit on their accrued pension buildup (because their claim on the company is less senior than bondholders). But the point is that the workers would still have jobs; they would simply be working for a new set of shareholders (i.e., those who used to be bondholders, rather than the original shareholders). Bondholders accept lower reward (a small interest rate) than stockholders (unlimited potential capital gains) in exchange for an "indenture," meaning they have seniority if the company can't pay off the bonds. Obama used his office to cancel legal contracts (the bond indentures associated with the various debt issues the two companies floated), which he has no Constitutional authority to do.


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dahoglund 4 years ago from Wisconsin Rapids

I think it is wrong to vote for or against a candidate because they are Black, or Catholic or whatever. one should vote for a candidate who has to abilities, vision and philosophy to do what is best for the country. When JFK ran for president I liked that he was a fellow Catholic. I voted for him because I liked him better than Nixon. Now I know if Nixon haad won we probably would not have had the Viet Nam War or Watergate.


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forlanda 4 years ago from US of A

In the private sector, one of the things they teach you when interviewing someone for a job is to see how they delt with things in the past. Past history gives you a pretty good idea of how someone will perform.

If you apply this to Obama, you will realize that he was never really vetted for the job. And for those who tried to sound the alarm, others didn't listen. Instead, many were enamored with the idea of electing the first black president.

Four years later, Obama performed as he has in the past--leading from the back, and pushing for more government. Forget that the most obvious challenge was the economy when he came in; instead, he starts of with Obama care. He did nothing to improve the economy, but instead doled out tax dollars to his friends and union buddies.

The result of his presidency should not be a surprise.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Peanut Man - We are looking at the choices - socialism isn't one of them son. GM should have been thrown into a full bankruptcy proceeding. What would have happened? First, the UAW contracts which are excessive would have become null and void. They were a major contributor to GM's problems and still are. The company would have had to reorganize much deeper than it was required to do with the bailout. That was obviously needed too.

Now as to brs02's comment. Your obvious diversion of changing the subject is your usual left wing self. One of my rules is that you stay on topic on my Hubs. If you ignore that rule it is at your peril, not mine. I have had to warn you before. Go to your left wings buddy's Hubs and spread the word. Most of them know what that cardinal rule of mine is. The other is to use FACTS which you rarely do. You are dealing with people who are a lot smarter than your are Peanut Man. Many of us actually read a lot more widely than your limited vision allows you to do.

Stu explained a lot of the details to you so I suggest you study up a bit more than you have rather than use stale talking points.

The Frog


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Old Poolman 4 years ago from Rural Arizona

Like so many, Peanutroaster lives in his own world of make believe. He is no doubt very comfortable in this little world where everything is just the way he wants it to be. Out here in the real world, he is totally lost because it requires gathering facts to support what you are saying. He is one who never lets facts confuse his thinking, thus his make believe world is always neat and tidy. This doesn't make him a bad guy, just very uninformed and completely wrong on most issues.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mike - What it makes him is someone who has no business casting a ballot. These uninformed people got us into this mess with Obama by not bothering to find out before hand what the man is all about. He needs to go see the documentary 2016 Obama's America. The truth told using many of Obama's own words and writings. But ignorance is sometimes bliss I reckon in that make believe world.

The Frog


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drbj 4 years ago from south Florida

You are so right, Jim, ignorance IS bliss for many folks. Unfortunately, most of the folks who follow that precept are voters.


Stu 4 years ago

Mr. Peanut,

"Privatize social security" - What else can we do but privatize it or devolve it to the states? The federal government lacks any Constitutionally enumerated power to operate transfer programs, making SS/Medicare/Medicaid unlawful at the federal level. Also, due to the federal government's ability to print money and borrow endlessly, they offer far too generous benefits in these programs, more than we can ever pay (the total liabilities for these systems are now over $60 trillion, far more than we can ever actually pay off without ruinous monetization and destruction of the dollar). SS/Medicare/Medicaid MUST be phased out, so most of their liabilites can be abrogated. Any other decision will mean national financial collapse.

"vouchers for medicare" - We don't need vouchers for Medicare. As stated, we need the federal government totally out of all transfer programs, period.

"create more uninsured Americans" - In a sense, that's just what ObieCare is going to do. The poor will be covered because they will get a big discount. But business and middle class individuals in many cases won't be able to afford the "premium load" to subsidize the poor. So many will opt out and just pay the penalty tax. OblabberCare just trades one set of insureds for another; it doesn't "add" to the rolls of the insured.

"start a few more wars" - Point well taken. While Obama has done some very stupid "nation building" that has created Iranian allies, I admit that very often the GOP is too hawkish, focusing on policing the world instead of national defense.

"make it harder for students to go to college" - Actually, this makes alot of sense. We are producing far too many graduates for the jobs avilable, which means the taxpayers will suffer big defaults on student loans (this business was recently taken over by Comrade Barack Obama). Further, the insanely low interest rates historically charged on student loans is probably the single greatest reason why college costs are escalating so fast; the schools say "look at how little these students have to pay on their loans, we can steal the subsidy by charging higher tuition" - this racket has been going on for decades because lower interest costs free up money students and their parents can pay to the schools.

"gut regulations that keep Wall St in check" - We can never gut banking regulation, as the taxpayer is on the hook for FICA and ad hoc bailouts. But it's crucial not to overdo regulation. The issue is this: banks must make a decent ROI, or they become takeover bait as their shares tank. If you regulate to the point that banks can't make decent money, banks will move their riskier operations into "special purpose entitities," which are not regulated, and will actually increase the risk level because no regulation will apply. Illustrative here is the abject stupidity of Dodd-Frank, which severely limits what banks can charge as service fees. The only way to make up the difference is to take more balance sheet risk - make lower quality loans putting the taxpayer at default risk (FICA), or further mismatch asset/liability durations to make more spread income putting the taxpayer at risk if the yield curve shifts up (ad hoc bailouts). Dodd-Frank actually plants the seeds of another potential banking collapse.

"eliminate environmental protections" - Not eliminate, rationalize. Environmental protections must be subject to cost/benefit tests. Nobody benefits from lunacy like Obama's all-encompassing drilling moratorium on federal land, or the utility MACT bill which may kill coal energy for the sole reason that coal fired energy plants release airborne mercury (airborne mercury is harmless, unlike mercury in water which is a major health hazard).

"take away women's healthcare and choice" - Murdering babies is not "healthcare;" it's a convenient and horrific escape from mommy's mistake. I know we need hardship exceptions for cases like rape and severe medical danger to the mother, but in other cases, the solution is to be more careful (cold showers work well).

"increase military spending for no reason" - Our military was over-gutted during the Clinton Administration, and Obama is compounding the damage. We MUST increase military spending, both to have an adequate size military personnel force, and replace aging equipment that in many cases is decades old and unreliable. We are losing the ability to protect our nation.

"[tax] the middle class to pay for tax cuts for the rich" - Both the middle class and wealthy are over-taxed as it is. And business taxes are so high that US corporations offshore investment and refuse to repatriate the earnings to avoid US taxation. The wealthy only appear to be under-taxed because the tax rate on capital gains and dividends is so low. What you need to factor in is that the companies they invest in pay 35% (on average) in taxes on profit, holding down capital gains for the wealthy shareholders. Add in personal taxes for capital gains and dividends (15% rate), and the effective tax rate paid by the wealthy is about 50%. Another issue that progressive tax rates are unconstitutional; the Constitution says that all taxes must be uniform (e.g., a flat percentage of income or consumption, or a flat dollar federal poll tax). The best scheme would be to replace the FIT entirely with a flat percentage national sales tax on end use consumption of goods and services (it would comport with the Constitution, and would greatly increase job creating domestic investment by business because business profits wouldn't be taxed at all).

Stu, RWNJ and TPM Patriot


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Angela Blair 4 years ago from Central Texas

Good one, Jim -- although I'm not a Kid Rock fan I think he's honest in his opinions and makes every attempt to get the uninformed to listen and make better decisions -- and God knows we need more honest people! Best/Sis


Stu 4 years ago

brso2,

You say "When the GM execs were neogtiating prior to the take over they should have tossed the keys to the union and walked out before the bankruptcy." Doesn't this conflict with your prior (correct) statement that the bondholders got shafted? Since the bondholders have claims on the companies which are legally senior to labor, shouldn't the bondholders have ended up with the stock?

Stu


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peanutroaster 4 years ago from New England

Have fun with your cold shower. I've also heard that holding an aspirin between your knees works. (The Taliban is another example of governing by ancient religious text).

If you are going spend money on the military how about spending it on the veterans of these wars. How about helping them find jobs when they return? Its disgusting how someone like Romney or Cheney are so gleeful about going to war when they find ways not to serve themselves.

Mormons are particularly undeserving of being commander in chief with their institution of religious deferment.

A patriot doesn't exploit every loophole, every offshore tax haven, every secret banking trick in the Cayman Islands and Swiss Bank accounts.


Stu 4 years ago

Mr. Peanut,

I don't think there is anything "paleocon" about protecting the life of the unborn. In the US we murder over 1.5 million unborn babies each year. That's over 50 million since the Roe v. Wade decision. And almost all of these killings are of the convenience nature, not hardships like rape, danger to the mother, or babies with severe illnesses whose life would be racked with unbearable pain. We desparately need a Constitutional Amendment defining life as beginning at conception, effectively overturning Roe v. Wade.

I totally agree veterans have not gotten a fair shake. While pay, fringes, and GI Bill benefits may possibly be adequate (or possibly not; I'm not an expert on this), they are always tenuous because Congress is constantly looking to decrease this compensation, making veterans and their families nervous. Further, military run hospitals have a terrible long term record for care of injured soldiers. Also, the hugely popular Tricare system (the military health program for soldiers and veterans) has just been moved to a new insurer after decades of great service from the original insurer. It's the first step in gutting Tricare benefits and federal subsidies. While it's true that Tricare is more generous, more subsidized, and requires lower out-of-pockets than the typical private sector medical plan, those outside the military don't risk their lives on the battlefield to earn their pay.

Every mainstream religion has its faults. Mormons are no different. Judge the candidate, not his church.

There is nothing unpatriotic about exploiting legal tax loopholes. In fact, if you are a corporate employee with responsibility for tax issues, you are legally obligated to do this as you have a fiduciary obligation to maximize free cash flow for the shareholders. What's unpatriotic is creating the tax loopholes in the first place; the fault lies with Congress, not corporate America.

Stu


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Peanut Man - You're reading a Hub that a veteran of 23 years wrote son. Don't try to preach to the choir through a haze of ignorance. I happened to have served beside Mormons and that is more make believe in your left wing mind. Good grief. Now tell me how many days Obama served in the US military? Or was it the Kenyan military maybe?

Sheltering your money from Uncle Sugar is an admirable thing. If the government didn't waste it and give it to every freeloader in this country many people wouldn't mind. But we do. I can pick my own charities Peanut Man. Romney does too - 30% of his income worth. Now grow up son and see reality.

The Frog


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Old Poolman 4 years ago from Rural Arizona

No amount of logic and facts are going to make peanutroaster look outside his perfect little world. These facts everyone keeps presenting mean nothing. He will change them to fit his need, put them on the proper shelf in exactly the right place, and call it a job well done. I often wish I had the talent to create my own perfect world, but reality keeps getting in my way.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mike - At times reality slaps us all around a bit. How we deal with it is critical. To deny it seems futile.


Stu 4 years ago

Jim - denying reality isn't futile at all. In fact, it's the easiest way to get a $250,000 job, lots of power, and a $3,000,000 redwood paneled office in Fairyland-On-Potomac.


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34th Bomb Group 4 years ago from Western New York State

As Mike indicated - nothing we say is going to release Obama's thrall on Mr. Peanut.

I live in a "Company Town," that company being Delphi. It's absolutely disgusting that Obama played nice guy with his Union supporters and let the white collar guys twist in the wind.

We have RETIRED line workers hauling in $100,000 + full medical, dental, etc. while the white collar guys who gave their LIVES to GM are hanging on to their houses with their fingernails. These are the guys who invested in advanced degrees and travelled the world for the company. Their families never saw them as they were always at work while the Union idiots clocked out at 3 minutes to quitting time.

This is Obama and his Chicago style cronyism at its worst and my friends, and my town, are suffering heavily 'cause Bammy wanted to keep his Union handlers happy.

Give me a f'n BREAK and go away before you're turned into peanut BUTTER!!


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

34th - You want crunchy or smooth?

TFP


34th 4 years ago

Definitely smooth FP!


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Old Poolman 4 years ago from Rural Arizona

At risk of sounding like a broken record, none of this factual information will penetrate the walls of peanut man and his friends. Facts are their enemy and upset the fantasy world they live in. They have a perfect little world bubble where they are happy and nothing will ever change their minds. Until the bubble bursts and reality sets in, they are immune to any outside information.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mike - You mean like when the federal government goes bankrupt and starts taking away their goodie basket? All one needs to do is look to Europe at the present time.

The Frog


Stu 4 years ago

34,

This is the whole problem with monopoly unionization. It's true that some people in the skilled trades who might be competitive at $50-$60K, but are getting paid like junior managers, are getting an incredible break. But what these people don't think about is that alot of additional skilled trade jobs wouldn't be offshored if the unions weren't demanding almost double what they're worth. Companies don't need to go to China or India to be competitive, as wages in these countries have been rising due to intense labor competition. While the wages there are still of course lower than here, so is the output per hour due to higher productivity in the US (more output per labor hour). But if you make the US blue collar pay too high, American companies must either offshore or close down the business entirely.

Stu


Stu 4 years ago

Jim - I like crunchy. Can you get both? :)


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Old Poolman 4 years ago from Rural Arizona

Yes FP, when the bubble does burst they will be the first to cry "Nobody told us this could happen."


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Minnetonka Twin 4 years ago from Minnesota

what a great song from Kid Rock and fits perfectly on your hub. I'm with Kid~I voted for Obama and felt really good about it for many reasons but the words and promises didn't match up. I want someone who talks the talks and walks the walk. Great hub my Frog Friend.


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DJProfessorK 4 years ago from York, PA

A few questions...

1a. Is any politician truthful? Promises are the first thing to be spoken during campaigning but are the first things broken in office.

1b. Since misinformation/disinformation is what comprises much dialogue here, in Congress, and in the news, does it really matter if they are being truthful since what they believe to be true is likely wrong anyway?

2. Will apathy strike many voters this year? We have an incumbent who hasn't lived up to expectations and a challenger who could possibly be worse than what we have already.

3. Since religion is inevitably going to be part of the political discussion, how will his affect the our country's stance as being religiously indifferent?


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taburkett 4 years ago

It is very obvious that some people have had too much of the Obama koolaid being distributed to them.

Social Security is currently on the path to destruction based on the current rules. http://socialsecurity.procon.org/

Vouchers for medicare - The longer the federal government controls the healthcare debacle, the worse it will get because working individuals of the nation cannot pay enough income tax to pay for the healthcare for those who do not work. Placing the requirement for healthcare into the hands of the individual will ensure that the individual is controlling their healthcare.

Create more uninsured Americans - this is a false accusation. when more people are working, there will be less people not insured. Free insurance does not create jobs, but jobs create people who are insured.

start a few more wars - terrorists have started all the current conflicts we are presently engaged in.

make it harder for students to go to college - more than 50% of the current college graduates cannot find a job. so why should they go to college?

Wall St is not the problem - political corruption is the problem. Wall Street will be placed in check if we do not permit the politicians to have insider trading.

environmental protections are currently a hazard to the nation. there are more hazards and risks created by the current laws and policies than prevention.

women's healthcare and choice is not being threatened, on the fact that government will not pay for some of the services.

there is no plan to increase military spending only to make sure that it does not decrease to the point that we have a military smaller than the one we had before WWII.

the wealthy did not get rich because they were not taxed and the middle class does not pay more than the wealthy tax payer. No change to any tax plan will require the middle class to pay more. In fact the current plans from all parties actually reduces the middle class taxes. The Democrats want to keep the Bush era tax rates and the Republicans want to move back to the Reagan tax rates that were even lower.

People really need to get to the real facts and quit listening to the main street media who theatrically spin deceit.


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34th Bomb Group 4 years ago from Western New York State

Hi Stu!

You're so correct! I remember 20 YEARS AGO my friend's husband, who worked in Skilled Trades and took as much O/T as he could get, was earning $90,000/year in preparation for retirement. No doubt he's still making more than 90% of the people in this town.

Patti


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TexasLadyJuanita 4 years ago from Kemah, TX

Frog Prince - thumb up and interesting to be sure. Well done as usual.

Peanut - 7 of 8 GM vehicles are now made in China. New plants to be made in China this year on top of that. I cannot speak for the rest of the country, but in the Houston area the GM dealers that kept their dealerships were those that contributed to Obama's campaign - and they were the dealerships that were in the red. The ones that were closed were the successful dealerships, and they did not contribute to Obama's campaign. This is a huge injustice. Our government does not have the right to take over any industry, does not have the right to fire the top people and put in a "government" man (picked by the government), and does not have the right to pick which dealerships would be closed.

3/4 of Americans are white people who voted for a black president. These goofy white people were so interested in proving they were not racist, that they voted in a man with no experience . . . and NO history anyone has been able to uncover for the most part.

Even someone as closed minded as you will surely see that justice has not been served. Based on high prices of gas, groceries, and many other items, high unemployment, stimulus money given to rich cronies and green projects instead of the middle class big time, the huge increase of the cost of Obamacare on the middle class (the government issued that last week, go read it), and more if you will just open your eyes - well, based on all of that, even you cannot deny that the last 4 years has been awful. To deny it makes you a person that cannot see the forest for the trees, or the trees for the forest.


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taburkett 4 years ago

Right on TexasLady -

My neighbor was a GM manufacturing engineer. He lost his job when the bailout occurred because his function was moved to China. He lost his healthcare and retirement. He now drives a truck part-time because he refuses to work for any company that is owned or supports the Chinese.

My brother was also placed on unemployment because he worked at one of the local dealerships that was closed. He and his coworkers opened their own repair shop and refuse to work on any vehicle made in China. They now have their own manufacturing company to make after-market parts so they do not need to get any parts from foreign manufacturers.

My family and friends have decided we will not purchase any foreign made goods. We are saving all of our funds in hope that we will be able to get through the looming depression. We all need to take a stand and refuse to buy anything made by foreign companies.

Unions used to support this type of effort, but they now support Obama and continue to support sending our manufacturing jobs overseas.

Every citizen in the USA must support made in USA now or the country will perish.


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34th Bomb Group 4 years ago from Western New York State

South of Buffalo we have a "Made in the U.S.A." store which, literally, only sells stuff made in our country. They're doing a land office business and people drive from out-of-state to shop there.

When I bought my last car, it might be from GM but it was built in Germany. I was darned if I was going to buy anything made in China. Now I'm looking to get rid of it simply because it has a Buick logo and too many of my friends have been screwed like your brother and neighbor. More and more people I know are doing their best to NOT buy Chinese. I always try to go to local businesses but sometimes the only game in town is that biggest of the big box stores. I hate it.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

34th - Both GM and Chrysler have lost any future business from me. GM just paid across the board bonuses to all their people while still owing the bailout $42 billion. That's horse s**t.

No more bailouts period. No one is too big to fail including our government if they don't start working on the deficit.

The Frog


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34th Bomb Group 4 years ago from Western New York State

Agreed FP!!


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TexasLadyJuanita 4 years ago from Kemah, TX

Awesome TABurkett, 34th Bomb Group, and of course FP.


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34th Bomb Group 4 years ago from Western New York State

Thanks Juanita! Much appreciated.


tom hellert 4 years ago

Froggie , the peanut brain has drank th e Kool aid and just like his hero xaptain golf pro- he wasnt winning the arguement so he tried to do the old deny and switch the topic toanything else like his hero who cant trumpet his record he has to change n bait n switch SO as for killing industries lets look at lil Barry O.

1.he has allowed unions to live therefoore killing GM,

2.he has killed the oil business in the gulf killing countless other businesses relying on oil workers money.

3. Obama care will kill small businesses either by taxes increasing tha'ts why no ones hiring....

4. he has devalued our dollar by printing so much to keep up with HIS TRILLIONS of DOLLARS DEFICIT

5. He has weakened our Military cutting spending

6. Destroyed our competitive edge disbanding NASA oh wait changing them to Muslim out reach.. yea thats what aeronautical engineers should be doing

7. How about letting our embassys get overrun and trying to hide the fact that spontaneous protestors DONT carry rocket launchers

8. How about letting guns just cross Mexican Border but having NO way to track them... oh but GM is alive and everyone else is bankrupt...

Osama is dead yes but because of all the work done by GW Bush.

TH


Ghost32 4 years ago

WHOA! Here I was, just meandering down through all the comments, when PR slammed the Mormons for their supposed "institution of religious deferment" when it comes to the military.

A few rejoinders to that:

1. If we're talking about disqualifying people from consideration for the Presidency for avoiding military service, let's start with "I never inhaled" Clinton and follow up with "turn his back on the flag" Obama.

2. When I read that (PR) comment, my first thought was, "Okay, do I known any Mormon military vets?" And the immediate reply was, "YEP!" Just so happens that two of my aunts married Mormon brothers. One of my cousins didn't try for any deferment but instead joined the Air Force, rose to the rank of Colonel and was--the last time I checked, which was some years back--the Commander of an air base. (He may be retired by now--would be in his mid-sixties.)

3. According to an article by Trent Toone in the Deseret News,

"• Approximately 15,000 LDS Church members served in Vietnam during the span of the war. (Includes military uniform, civilians at the embassy and consulate staffs, civilian aid workers and civil engineers, repairman from many logistical air bases in the U.S., as well as Australians, New Zealanders and Koreans who were members.) "


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Ghost - The Peanut Man is a spreader of misinformation commonly referred to also as horse manure. The last word being the polite term.

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The Frog


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taburkett 4 years ago

Ghost - I proudly served in Vietnam with several Mormons in the Air Force. They are great patriots and outstanding citizens. My grandson currently serves in the Air Force with one of the grandsons of my close Mormon friends. They are becoming close friends in their current jobs.


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Old Poolman 4 years ago from Rural Arizona

Careful now, these facts regarding Mormon's actually serving in the military will just not fit in peanuts perfect world. He believes what he is told by his handlers, and will refuse to believe anything else even when presented with a truck load of facts.


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RyanMeyers 4 years ago from Dunmore PA

I’m pretty sure you had the white trailer trash vote in the bag before the Kid Rock endorsement, for obvious reasons. I think you need to give your followers and yourself a kiss cause your all sleeping when it comes to understanding economics. I was asked to stop leaving comments on one of your followers’ hubs because he said it was for opinions not debate. I thought that was funny because I DID post my opinion which was debated by him and his followers. Anyway, if you ever need a little schooling on the economy, I already feel obliged to help since your hubs are pretty polished. Don’t want them to be wasted on misinformation. I DO have a life so forgive me if I don’t get back right away. It IS fun teaching people though… Look forward to your comments


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Old Poolman 4 years ago from Rural Arizona

Gee Ryan, I wonder why the author asked you to leave his hub. White trailer trash indeed. Are you sure your not mixed up and referring to those cashing their food stamps while chatting on their Obama phone?

I truly doubt you have any economic information for schooling the readers of this hub. Or were you advising this administration on how to spend, steal, and waste money? That I would love to hear about.

Just a hint here Ryan, you picked the absolute worst place you could find to start preaching about facts that you can provide.


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RyanMeyers 4 years ago from Dunmore PA

Yea… the intelligence is just oozing from your peanut gallery! I just gotta laugh cause you guys are exactly like the leftist liberals you hate. No blame on your guy, all the blame on the other guy.

That’s why I’m independent. Mitt can do no wrong even though you hated him a few months ago. Obama didn’t make any mistakes and Bush’s policies are still the problem.

If either of you just stopped to be completely truthful we would be much better off.

This frog prince guy is out of his tree though. Maybe you should rename him the Tree Frog Prince!!! I think he’d make a nice pet for Rush Limbaugh!

I have to admit, I’m a sucker for an argument cause when I see a guy like this bombing other people with righteousness it bothers the shit out of me.

You guys have some things right but not nearly everything.

In case you didn’t realize, I’m the guy waiting to be convinced. I understand wooing me to vote Republican is not your responsibility but every time I start thinking I should vote Republican you guys remind me why it’s so hard to make that decision definitive.

I could only imagine the posts if Kid Rock endorsed Obama. I’m sure it would have been funny.

Oh and OldPoolman; that’s the funny thing about the trailer park. They milk the benefits but vote Republican… Gotta love it!!!


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Ryan - I suggest you move on because you obviously have nothing constructive to contribute but bullshit son. Kid Rock has grown up. Maybe you oughta try it too son. The only thing you could possibly teach anyone here is how to run your chops ceaselessly without ever really saying a damned thing.

The Frog


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Old Poolman 4 years ago from Rural Arizona

Right Ryan, I see you missed yet another point. Like Frog says, you need to go finish growing up, then come back for another visit.


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TyeshaMatthews 4 years ago from MOSS POINT, MS

EVERYBODY WANT TO SAY THAT OBAMA DID NOT DO ANYTHING. THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? POLITICS IS NOT MAGIC AND IF YOU PEOPLE WOULD GO TO THE TOWN MEETINGS AND TELL THEM WHATS GOING ON AND HELP THEM FIX IT. WE THE PEOPLE RULE THE COUNTRY. EVERYTHING WILL NOT BE HANDED TO YOU. YOU ALL KNOW THAT SOME WHITES REFUSE TO FOLLOW THE BLACK MAN. THEY FEAR HIM BECAUSE HE IS EDUCATED. EVERYBODY SO QUICK TO JUDGE HIM, HOW MANY OF YOU VOTED OR WILL BE VOTING BECAUSE ROMNEY CAN'T HELP EITHER. ALL US BLACK FOLK WILL BE BACK TO PICKIN COTTON IF ITS UP TO HIM. OBAMA SAVED MY EDUCATION FUNDING SO I COULD HAVE A DEGREE, HE WANTS THE PEOPLE TO WORK AND NOT DEPEND ON THE SYSTEM. I AM GOING TO ENJOY MY MIDDLE CLASS INCOME AND TELL THOSE LAZY MEN AND WOMEN WHO SELLING DRUGS OUT THEY APARTMENT AND COLLECTING WELFARE TO GET A REAL JOB AND LEAVE THE WELFARE TO THOSE WHO REALLY NEEDED IT. IF YOU CAN SELL DRUGS, YOU CAN GET A REAL JOB BECAUSE THAT SO MUCH HARD WORK! OBAMA 2012


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Here's the deal Tyesha. That's great that "Obama" did all that for you. Now did he write you a personal check to help you out or did he use tax payer's money, one of which I am? If he used my money I can tell you I don't owe you a damned thing, never have and never will. Let me also make a suggestion to you about writing comments on my Hubs. Don't do it all in capital letters because no one likes it when someone is yelling. You're a bit like Ryan above. You need to do some serious growing up. Obama pandered to you Tyesha. Your English usage is atrocious BTW so stay in school and maybe go to some classes along the way.

The Frog


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Good bye Ryan. You've worn your welcome out here too. CYA!

We're having an adult conversation here and children should be seen and not heard at this point in time.

The Frog

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