The Conservative Mindset: Mittwit III, Romney pulls the Trump Card

I offer apologies to my friends and followers as I have dropped from the face of the earth recently becoming semi-retired when once fully retired. I have missed reading many of your articles and commenting on their content. To ease the expense burden for my wife of relatively poor health, I have taken a part time gig with rather screwy work hours. I guess that ‘for better or for worse’ or in ‘sickness and in health’ are more than just idle words to me. I am going to creep back into the fray that I have missed so much. Thanks in advance for your forbearance. We are doing fine, and may your way be as pleasant. (June 2, 2012)

Now, back to the war….


I have thought much of this through, but is Donald Trump deliberately sabotaging the Mitt Romney campaign for president? Could it be that Trump is still ‘sore’ about Romney backing out of his sponsored debates last December? Is Mitt Romney, who I affectionately refer to as the Mitt-wit, so naïve as to not see the danger? The association with the ego maniac, racist (and he is a racist despite what he says), ‘shoot from the lip’ tongueslinger is not seen by Romney as a liability to his campaign? What is it that I and other members of minority groups see in this man? Romney is not in a position to write off votes from anyone. I would not look kindly at a Romney affiliation with David Duke or a resurrected George Wallace, for example. It is acceptable that the GOP stay on message within its ideological framework, but to antagonize is only going to drive people away where you otherwise might get through to a few with the GOP message. Not me, of course, but possibly many others. In that vast vacuum between Romney’s ears is there a chance that one brain cell could actually collide with another?

Ego-maniacal

Trump has recently taken credit for all the favorable press that Mitt Romney has received lately. I had no idea that he was so ‘formidable’..

We minorities, particularly blacks, consider Trump’s obsession about President Obama’s birth certificate and educational background as racist code words. That does not reflect well upon Romney for either us or Anglos that want the campaign to be about the issues, not distracted by racist nonsense. How is that a man vetted at the highest levels of Government on so fundamental a constitutional requirement as being eligible for the office fools everyone, while Trump enlightens us all with the answers? When Trump was informed as to how this Birther stance was received by many, he replied, “how could I be racist, Arsenio Hall, a black contestant on my Celebrity Apprentice show, won the competition.” Racism has been a part of his past in regard to resistance to fair housing laws and other examples throughout his background since the 1970’s.Is this all to be ameliorated because of some ridiculous television program?


Does he really think that everyone is so naïve, not to see through his so called subterfuge? He says that he has no problems with ‘the blacks’, well I am not so sure. I was not born yesterday, and I am trained from birth as part of a healthy paranoia blacks have as a defense within a system that has been hostile toward them for so long, to quickly sort the wheat from the chaff at the point of harvest. The fact that Romney is not man enough to call Trump on his antics showing his potential voters that he is his own man, has to be a matter of concern. Even John McCain had the courage and honor to call on erroneous information regarding his then opponent, Barack Obama, by one of his supporters. When it comes to ‘shoes to fill’, Romney could climb into one of McCain’s shoes with room to spare. McCain represents a dying group of politicians that put courage and honor above campaign contributors that contradict those ideals. In a different reality, I could have supported him at one time.

Not only is Mitt Romney unengaging with the masses of people from whom he will need support, but he is letting a clown derail his campaign. Wouldn’t you say that it appears that his eyes are “ wide shut’ in the face of all this? He is giving the President and the Democrats plenty of ammunition and I can’t wait to hear Mitt defend all this in the upcoming debates next fall. The ‘left’ is going to roast him alive! It sounds a great deal like he would be a president in the model of Calvin Coolidge rather than that of Ronald Reagan.

Conservative Mindset:

What is it with conservatives and tokens? Do you really think that you are going to address the concerns of millions of Hispanic American citizens across the country merely by making Representative Rubio of Florida the second half of a Romney ticket? We are all rational human beings, camouflage and subterfuge is not going replace substantive support of positions that the vast majority of affected groups are concerned about.

In response to the GOP fear of the ‘war on women” which they declared by cavalierly dismissing female reproductive and contraceptive options, you offer Sarah Palin as a spokeswoman. Her only affinity to the issue is just the fact that she is female? Here is a statistic or two for you to ponder excerpted from a pertinent article….

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Republican Women Are Some Of The Biggest Enemies In The War On Women
May 22, 2012

Three women into my series, Woman Against Women, an exploration of GOP women and their backgrounds and voting records, it became patently obvious that 98% of elected GOP women were anti-choice and voted a straight ALEC platform. Suddenly GOP women are in the news and acting like they care about women and the issues women face. This is no doubt a result of “Women Up!” the women’s initiative founded by the Young Guns to go after the women’s vote.

On 5/15/12, fourteen GOP women wrote, “The GOP is the Real Party of American Women.”

The article denies the war against women and claims, that “Republican women — like us — would never be part of a party that didn’t believe in women’s rights, equal pay for equal work, and strong laws against sexual violence. The Republican Party believes in all of those things.” This of course is total bullsh*t as evidenced by the statistics from today’s Think Progress article concerning the voting records of the newly formed GOP Women’s Policy Committee.

• Violence Against Women: Of the 24 women, 22 voted to rollback the Violence Against Women Act, backing a version of the bill that could violate the confidentiality of victims and that excluded protections for immigrants, LGBT people, and Native Americans.

• Access to contraception: 21 of the 24 co-sponsored the “Respect for Rights of Conscience Act” to take away regulations enacted under Obamacare, requiring most employers to cover birth control in their health insurance plans, without additional cost-sharing.

• Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act: Of the 15 Republican Congresswomen who were in the House at the time, all 15 voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, a law that helps women hold accountable employers who discriminate in the pay practices based on gender.

• Paycheck Fairness Act: 13 of those 15 also voted against the Paycheck Fairness Act, which would update the 1963 Equal Pay Act by closing many of its loopholes and strengthening incentives to prevent pay discrimination.

• Reproductive health: According to Planned Parenthood, 20 of the 24 GOP women earned a zero score, voting against reproductive health at every opportunity. The average score for the women was under 6 percent.

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Sounds a bit like the wolf in sheep’s clothing to me. These issues are important to the vast majority of women, not just the “Feminazis’ as Rush Limbaugh coins it. It is pretty easy for me as well as most women to see the difference between what the GOP professes and what it actually does. And for that, they will be held accountable at the polls.

Let’s not forget the time whenever a civil rights issue was under debate the GOP trotted out J.C. Watts, formerly a member of the House of Representatives - Oklahoma.(1990’s). I suppose as an African-American I was to be impressed that out of 535 legislators and 2 political parties the GOP had only one black representative, that they brought ‘out of the woodpile’ on the appropriate occasion. . This was a most curious situation, indeed. I guess that I was obligated to give the GOP the same credibility that I gave the Democrats that were more ethnically and culturally diverse, which while uncomfortable for the GOP base, I found representative and reassuring..

The Right-winger believes that he is the emperor sporting a new suit of clothes, while in reality he is quite naked. Believe me, that is not a pleasant sight to behold. The Republicans ignore legitimate concerns of fast growing demographic groups, the sheer power of the woman’s vote and the concerns of most minorities to their own peril. So, its not just me…The GOP has got a lot of work to do or risk a fate similar to that of the Whig Party in the US during the middle 19th century.

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Barnsey 4 years ago from Happy Hunting Grounds

Welcome back, I for one have missed your commentary on several forums and the like. My best wishes to you and yours, sorry to hear about your recent trials.

Once again you have dissected the issue and left me smiling. I especially love the point about GOP women being feminist's worst enemy. I think this is another example of the government officials more concerned with lining their pockets than standing up for something worthwhile. As far as that weirdo Trump is concerned he is an elitist from way back, as you mentioned, and I honestly doubt that anyone worth their weight in salt pays him any mind. Unless of course you are a politician who Trump has sent a payment to recently.

Looking at Mitt I have little concern about the republicans making a comeback. My concern is the stone wall they will manifest for another four years of nonsense. Will they grow up and do their job or continue stealing their paychecks?


HSchneider 4 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

Welcome back Cred2. I've been back to work the past 8 months so I have written many fewer articles. We must keep up the criticism of the hypocritical GOP especialy Mr. Flip Flop, Mitt Romney. The super rich are investing in him big time because they know he has no core so he will deliver to them.


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Hi, Barnsey, thanks for your commentary. Romney should see Trump as a bull in the china shop that will turn off more of his potential supporters than he attracts.

There is the danger that the GOP could make a great showing if Obama has continuing problems with the economy, much of the circumstances being out of his immediate control. All the GOP is offering and has offered are the policies that got us all in this mess in the first place, but alas the electorate always seem to have a short memory.


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Greetings HS, what a welcoming committee! There are so many things going on in the political realm that has been upsetting that I could not stay silent for very long.

I really do not think that Romney has the 'fire in the belly' necessary for success. But time will tell, he has quite a thicket to get through between the rabid right on one side and moderates and independents on the other. I gotta buy tickets to see this high wire act!!


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FitnezzJim 4 years ago from Fredericksburg, Virginia

Glad to see you back, and hope all works well for you and the wife.

As for the article, Trump spent too much time wrestling and taking coup for me to take him seriously (I forget whose hair he got to cut). Palin on the other hand, in my opinion, has done good things for our country, if for nothing else, then because she has helped to remind folks that their votes count, no matter what bad-names those voters might be called. As for Romney, well, anybody but Obama, who has proven he isn't up to the job. (And who is by the way, in my opinion, qualified under our Constitution to be President).

Remember in November.


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onuigbos 4 years ago from Southfield, MI

Welcome Pal. My thing with Romney is with leadership capabilities. This individual has not stood up against the lunatic right, but pushes his surrogates to say setting records straight is not important to America and Americans. The presidency of the United States means standing for those who cannot stand for themselves against the tyrants of the world. If Mitt lacks the courage to situate riffraff like Rush and trashy Trump, I am looking at a toothless Romney's America.


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JT Walters 4 years ago from Florida

HI Credence2,

Hope your wife is feeling better and your job is enjoyable. Fundamentally, if I didn't like you so much I would be offended by your partisanship. Remember the progressive Republicans of McKinley and Roosevelt's day. The old guard still exists. And you can't label the old guard at all. GOP is a very diverse party. Far more diverse then the Dems especially when they belonged to the Klu Klux Klan in the 1930(s).

Trump is an unamusing entertainer who clearly works for the Democrats. He is not for real. As for Rubio he has done some good things for his district and deserves to be considered for VP but not because of the color of his skin but because of his performance. I think it will be JEB anyways. I know everyone says no but there has never been an election when the VP candidate hasn't been anounced 6 months before the election. It has to be JEB. And if it is then it is already agreed between Obama and the Bushes. Romeny is only the front man for a man who can't be his own front because his family has too bad of history as POTUS.

And I hate when they talk about black rights and women rights and gay rights before an election...it means no rights after an election from either party.

Being conservative isn't such a bad idea when our markets tanks everytime another country markets take a beating in this wondeful era of world trade. We will move back into isolationism. It is inevitable as it always is. Globalism is always a failure.

And I don't care where Obama was born. I doubt anyone really does. It is just more noise out in mainstream America. I'll tell you it makes Afrika very happy as well as the Middle East who are completely convinced we have the first Muslim America president. I haven't bothered to tell them different.

The White House correspondence dinner was a huge mistake though and POTUS didn't do himself any favors that evening. But then again when does DC ever do anything politically correct? For politicians they do the most vile and depraved acts. They should be called the anti-politicians.

Take care my friend.

JT


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

It is interesting that the conservatives are pushing women's rights backwards, and that women will still vote for them. To me that makes not sense at all. Romney, Trump, or anybody. It just seems, well crazy.


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Hi, FJ, thanks for the well wishing, I hope that all is well with you in the "Old Dominion"

I am not fond of Palin, but I do not resist your opinion in her regard. I have laid out my problem with her in other hubs that I have wirtten. It is interesting to hear that yourself like so many see him, Trump, as just a clown, not to be taken seriously. You're right about that. But there may well be many on the fence independents and moderates that will not find his association with Romney as so entertaining. Seriously, FJ, that birther thing sticks in the craw.

Right now, I will chance Obama on a second term before I entertain any GOP vision of our eoonomic future, that is just my opinion.

It is nice to know that you are not a Birther type.... "Remember in November", YES INDEED.

As always nice to hear from you...


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Thanks for your reply

You said: My thing with Romney is with leadership capabilities. This individual has not stood up against the lunatic right, but pushes his surrogates to say setting records straight is not important to America and Americans.

Yes, I think Romney is just a corporate pawn, plaint to monied interests whose direction for the country he would not oppose. The conservatives always says "socialism", well I say feudalism, which I consider much more dangerous. Mitt is a dishrag that cannot confront opposing forces within his own party, where is he going to get the conjones to really advocate for the underdog in America domestically or internationally, when tough choices need to be made?

He is truly Thurston Howell, the character, made flesh.


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

You said:

Fundamentally, if I didn't like you so much I would be offended by your partisanship.

Greetings, JT, thanks for weighing in… Everybody knows that I am a left leaning progressive, politically. It is not 6 of one and half dozen of the other, One side (political party) represents my views more consistently than the other. I am open to those that tell me why I should not hold this opinion. But it had better be good.

You said:

Remember the progressive Republicans of McKinley and Roosevelt's day. The old guard still exists.

What ‘old guard’, JT? I would have better luck finding a tyrannosaurus rex, or running into TR on a typical rough ride. These people are gone, just like the Rockefeller Republicans of more recent times. It is insane to think that todays GOP has any resemblance to the party as it was over 100 years ago.

You said:

And you can't label the old guard at all. GOP is a very diverse party.

GOP, more diverse, do I have to gather information as to their demographic supporters to show that relative to the Democrats that the GOP is far more homogeneous?

You said:

Far more diverse then the Dems especially when they belonged to the Klu Klux Klan in the 1930(s).

I have written an article explaining why Blacks vote Democratic, the transition of the Democrats to the party that was more attractive, at least on a national level occurred over 60 years ago, state and local governments, particularly in the south, got on board not much later than the 1970’s. The 1930’s is another story and is not relevant to my point.

You said:

Trump is an unamusing entertainer who clearly works for the Democrats.

What is the evidence he is working for the Democrats, who is he raising funds for, standing arm and arm with? Certainly not Barack Obama.

You said:

As for Rubio he has done some good things for his district and deserves to be considered for VP but not because of the color of his skin but because of his performance.

Ok, much like McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin, quite a ‘game changer’? I am not attacking Rubio, he may well be a fine representative. But with the GOP love of tokenism and appearance of over substance and the commentary of many of the pundits point to the fact that his being Hispanic will have something to do with his selection.

And I hate when they talk about black rights and women rights and gay rights before an election...it means no rights after an election from either party.

What is your point here? I am not making these things up. The examples of pandering to the female vote are clearly evident. Do these rights mean anything to you or are you seriously going along with the GOP gift for ‘lip service’? As long as I have supported Democrats(long time) these issues were not treated on just a seasonal basis.

You said:

Being conservative isn't such a bad idea when our markets tanks everytime another country markets take a beating in this wondeful era of world trade. We will move back into isolationism. It is inevitable as it always is. Globalism is always a failure.

How is being conservative change the reality that you mention here? Isolation is impossible in a global market, that is like taken the broken egg and shell and undoing it all, Pandora is now out of the box, JT, the days of Ralph Kramden and the lunch bucket economy is gone forever. To stay viable we have to compete in this market.

You said:

And I don't care where Obama was born. I doubt anyone really does. It is just more noise out in mainstream America. I'll tell you it makes Afrika very happy as well as the Middle East who are completely convinced we have the first Muslim America president. I haven't bothered to tell them different.

Well I think that all of us on either side of the political spectrum have an obligation to speak the truth. The Constitution requires that the President be an American citizen, to that extent, I am concerned as to where he was born. Mr Obama is an American of Christian faith, the fact that he professes as much is good enough for me.

As always, it is nice to hear from you and I will see you around the hubs


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

It is interesting that the conservatives are pushing women's rights backwards, and that women will still vote for them. To me that makes not sense at all. Romney, Trump, or anybody. It just seems, well crazy.

Hello, Michele, thanks for sharing your thoughts. All you say is so true, but what really irks me is the time, energy and money they expend to get everyone to believe they are doing anything but being a obstacle to women's rights


Justsilvie 4 years ago

Nice to see your type again Cred

Sorry to hear about your wife's health. I wish her a complete and speedy recovery.

Seems that total retirement is a thing of the past for us Baby Boomers. My husband has 68 as his retirement target year, but who knows what the future will bring. He keeps kidding about becoming a Walmart Greeter, but after working for the government that may be much more enjoyable.

I really wish the money all politicians spend to trash each other would go on the national debt. We might be able to pay it off!!! I dread the next few months and may have to have a TV and Computer Blackout.

Trump is a creep! Any man with that much money who appears in public with a badly done comb over has issues... LOL. It really kills me that anyone would even listen to the nasty clown.

Anyways, I am glad to see you again and look forward to your hubs.

Take care.


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Hi, Justsilvie, Are you all settled in your new home? Sounds like it, thats great.

I could have had that retirement (total) if either my wife's health was not as precarious, or we lived in a mainland location which would probably have a lower cost of living. But anyway que cera, cera, right?

What ever you do, don't go to Walmart, its a sweatshop!

I do have a problem with people like Trump. He is in total all the negative association I make with extremely wealthy people. Someone that I would not want to imitate or emulate, personal wealth not withstanding. As long as we are all mortal, how foolish is it to be so arrogant? Even he cannot take it all with him. Yeah, you would think with all his money, he could have had a professional job done for what currently passes for an ill conceived toupee.

I hope to continue following your work and thank you once again for dropping by

All the best......

I


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JT Walters 4 years ago from Florida

Wow Cred2,

Well here we go.

You think the old guard is extinct. I am not dead yet so don't throw dirt on me..okay?

As for Statistics I believe Euclid said it best that they are the prostitute of truth so I doubt any stat you could quote me on demographics on the Democratic Party would be anything but a prostitute to the truth.

You make no qualification for people who will never belong to a party and who will never vote a straight ticket. And you do not account for the anti-incumbent (sp?) sentiment that has saturated the country.

Why don't you ask Bill Nelson of Florida, a Democrat, what he does for women's rights or Bob Graham for that matter. You assume that Democrats are better to women then men. No way, both parties are awful to women and children and absolutely horrific to the disabled.

Good to know that Democrats and Republicans are both prostitutes to world trade. Why not lunch box economy? Especially when retirements disappear over night in global markets and the USA is looking like a third world country? Everytime we enter into world trade Oil prices explode, there is financial instability world wide and always there is isolationism which leads to war. We had globalization in 1900 and then WWI & WWII.

We are not a secular county so the religion of the POTUS is not relavant to me. We have America citizens born over seas everyday. I was giving POTUS the benefit of the doubt.

You legal briefed me Cred2. We are friends but I don't drink the cool aide of any party as I believe both parties activities are anti-social at heart. I am a uniter not a divider. But Republicans hate me for giving POTUS a break and Dems hate me for being an old guard republican.

I guess I have no friends in this political climate.

Regards,

JT


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

JT, our friendship is not predicated on the idea that we have to agree on everything. As I say, some of my best friends are conservatives, It is important to let you know where I am coming from and why.

Our relative reality and views of the world are different based on from where we came.

You said, You think the old guard is extinct. I am not dead yet so don't throw dirt on me..okay?

But JT, you are an individual where are the numbers having your point of view? Can you name one c urrentf representative of the GOP "old guard" that you speak of?

You said,

You make no qualification for people who will never belong to a party and who will never vote a straight ticket. And you do not account for the anti-incumbent (sp?) sentiment that has saturated the country.

This is true, but most American appear to have party affiliation of one degree or another.Just removing the incumbent and replacing him with another could be more of the same and, with the GOP, probably worse.

You said,

Why don't you ask Bill Nelson of Florida, a Democrat, what he does for women's rights or Bob Graham for that matter. You assume that Democrats are better to women then men. No way, both parties are awful to women and children and absolutely horrific to the disabled.

JT, you selcted a blue dog democrat (Nelson)who is well to right of the base of the party , these callous attitudes are front and center mainstream of the GOP party, In my humble opinion that is a big difference.

You said:

Good to know that Democrats and Republicans are both prostitutes to world trade. Why not lunch box economy? Especially when retirements disappear over night in global markets and the USA is looking like a third world country? Everytime we enter into world trade Oil prices explode, there is financial instability world wide and always there is isolationism which leads to war. We had globalization in 1900 and then WWI & WWII.

Ask the GOP constituency why we have global trade and markets?Technology and the communications revolution that was just a dream in 1900 makes it possible to acquire labor at the fraction of the

domestic cost. This is a foundation of capitalism and free markets.Ask your neighbor why he or she still shops at Walmart?It is impossible to insulate ourselves at this point. Tarriffs might help but not much.

Did you hear Jeb Bush just the other day, he said that even Ronald Reagan would not be comfortable in today's GOP, having no desire to compromise to get things done, that was not REagan. T. Roosevelt was a progressiv e and a great man that would not have a place in todays obstructionist GOP.

Again thanks for weighing in


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JT Walters 4 years ago from Florida

This is true our friendship would never be predicated on agreement. And some of my best friends are Democrat but not blue dog democrats.

GOP and DNC are into high oil prices and a flat prgressive tax on every American which doesn't exist in other parts of the world.

Never think cheap labor isn't costing America. For every sweat shop we have in another country we have an unemployed American here. And those countries with sweat shops are exceptionally angry at their low living standards snd are potential threats to the USA.

I quit listening to JEB when he evacuated the state of Florida when no one could get gas out of the ground. And again I am not a party person. Old guard doesn't have to be a party person. The old guard still exists they just aren' t as forth comning as I am.

You do realize T. Roosevelt did leave the republican party after Taft's big spending spree and started the Bull Moose party and was never allowed to serve in public office again.

And Reagan was a die hard liberal who spent the wealth of this country for his own immediate gradification and re-election which we are all paying for now.

Technology has been around for a very long time which did not require world trade. I know one of my fiance' required me to carry the brick cell telephone.

It is inevitable that we will move into isolationism. Look at Canada they haven't even been effected by world markets.

Just my two cents.

JT


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

JT, your point is well taken, it is all bad...

It has to be said that the power of the petroleum industry exceeds that of either political party, but which party does the industry snuggle up to more often as shown by its contributions?

You are right about the problem of cheap labor, but which side has in its policy a requirement that USA firms that want to enjoy tax breaks cannot be engaged in outsourcing? Which group is trying to destroy unions, as the only hope for some parity for the working man in the face of his or her employer?

I wish that your 'old guard' would express itself politically, if they did perhaps we would have fewer problems

Your point about TR is noted, Taft lost to Wilson in 1912 because of TR's Bull Moose party.

If you mention Ronald Reagan in GOP circles in any other way outside of being exemplary, you would be in a great deal of trouble.

so the old guard does not see Reagan as a hero? Well, from the left we certainly do not consider him as progressive in any way..

Capitalism, by its better nature demands better, faster and cheaperWe all want cheaper products at the stores, the store owners want larger profits for those sales and that means hiring people to work in Bangledesh or Honduras if need be. I can't see economic isolationism working in this day and age. But that is just my opinion, as always thanks for your comment.


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JT Walters 4 years ago from Florida

I am the old guard expressing myself.

Do we all get cheaper products by employing people on Bangledesh? Let's take Polo for instance. Have Polo rugby shirts dropped in price at all since moving to Bangledesh? No. And once you take on the oil tax of shipping the polo around the world the polo shirt is back to the exact same price as it would be if it were made in the USA. Only the profit margins have increased which is criminal in this economy.

I don't believe we all want cheaper products at the cost of our fellow Americans and besides we aren't getting cheaper products just as I have illustrated.

Reagan is a legend in some Republicans minds because he tricked Carter and that is why he is so revered over the Iran Hostage deal. As a president I don't think Reagan was wonderful. He spent like a drunk sailor on shore leave.

Actually TR's Bull Moose party did not get Wilson elected instead of Taft. Taft was elected despite the Bull Moose Party but the Bull moose Party weakened the Republican Party entirely.

Both Parties are in bed with Oil and anything said to the contrary is simply a lie. We could run this country on natural gas and never have to drill or take another drop of oil. Now the question is why hasn't either party decided to do that?

Thanks for letting me comment friend.

JT


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

I was very interested in what you had to say about GOP women. Too often they remind of the women of England when they first got the vote. If you look deeply into that period, Parliment didn't give them the vote to promote women's rights. They did it to offset the Labor Party whose members were returning from the folly of WWI hellbent on throwing out the SOBs who sent them off to die for no good reason. Parliment only gave the vote to married women who were homeowners, assuming these were upper class women who would vote the way their husbands told them to.

Sorry to was on - you struck a nerve. Up and interesting.


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

JT, Thanks for bearing with me until I get a chance to respond to all my friends….Yeah, the money changers are found in both parties. Just a side note, it is interesting that now that gas prices have gone down, I don’t hear anything from the GOP who blamed Obama for the increase. I am beginning to believe that market forces explain the rise and decrease in the price of gas and that we are being manipulated in a political way to believe otherwise. Yes, indeed, cheap labor (outsourcing) is costing American jobs and American labor. Your point about outsourced nations is well taken. I have heard that China among others are not content to work for pennies on the dollar. As the standard of living increases, people are going to demand more. That is just natural, those that continue to comb the globe for those that are willing to work for less will just move on to Sri Lanka or Bangladesh… It is the unions not the corporations that care if it is ‘made in America’ or not. You have no affiliation with either party as I seem to understand. Funny when TR broke with Taft in 1912 from the GOP and formed the Bull Moose Party, the last decent vestige of the GOP as a crusader went with him. Wilson won because of the split in the GOP. At least you give the ‘great Ronald Reagan’ his due, that is a lot more than I can say for ‘the new guard’ GOP!

We have to agree to disagree about the direction of trade; isolationism verses free markets. Rest assured, I give your insight a bit more appreciation than just 2 cents


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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

Hi, Kathleen, thanks for your comment. I don’t like to think that what I am seeing represents all GOP women; it was just a handful that is being manipulated to promote the GOP agenda. It is just the underhanded nature of their campaign that gets under my skin that includes their audacity to think that anyone is buying it. Yes, you are right about the franchise is Britain, it was expected that in the U.S. as well, women given the ballot would vote as their husbands directed them to. I believe statistics will show that women mirrored men in their selection of candidates until relatively recently. Rather then women having the franchise be advantageous to them it was granted to increase the vote count of one party over another. Nothing ever really changes, does it? Woman suffrage has quite a history , but as you say, behind it was sinister purpose. It would be interesting to write an article about women’s suffrage around the globe, which nation’s women received it first and under what stipulations.


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JT Walters 4 years ago from Florida

Hi Credence2,

I am still here and I am registered a Republican so the old guard is still alive. Sadly, I don't recognize the current Republican Party. I think George Bush destroyed it with the Neo-cons which is a new word for old liberals.

Gas prices are down? Not where I live.

There is way more about Reagan as I was appauld about how he handled the AIDS crisis in America during his presidency. I lost a relative to AIDS during that time and I remember what an outcast he was and how I went to see him despite what the media claimed about the transmission of AIDs before he died.

But it is no different then how Obama is handling Autism in America. I want a president that can actually meet the big challenges of this country instead of band aiding the little ones.

I speak to Dems as well as Republicans. No one wants to elect Romney as he is not exciting and now one wants another four years like the last. And everyone hates Congress. The Supreme Court just stepped in a big pile of crap on this healthcare bill as well. I can't begin to tell you how unhappy people are with their government. I hear alot about guns and bibles. I only own the bible and it will not protect me from much. Serious change has to occur in this country and quickly as DC is looking like criminals. Moral in thsi country could not be lower as we are all prisoners to recycled bad ideas by an Absolutism government.

Thanks for letting me add my three cents.

JT


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RJ Schwartz 9 months ago from Idaho Falls, Idaho

It's like a window to the past and an interesting look at Trump's value. Obviously his words do carry some weight based on the current situation. Romney is now trying as hard as he can to hurt Trump's chances.


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Credence2 9 months ago from Florida (Space Coast) Author

RJ, most kind of you to read and comment on this article which I certainly never thought would see the light of day.

Ironically, and in a skewed sort of way, the mainstream support as something that could have provided by Romney would not exactly have hurt the Trump campaign. Things have changed unrecognizably in the last 3 to 4 years. I think that Trump used Romney as 'play thing' during that 2012 campaign and there is still bad blood between the men.

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