The Lee-Cornyn-Hatch Balanced Budget Amendment

No Comprises, Not One

Ever heard of the "Cut, Cap and Balance" pledge? It goes like this. Cut spending substantially, cap the spending and balance the budget. The majority of Americans seem to favor the concept. If you take a close look at it, many of us run our households in that manner and as the economy continues to tank, many more will join us in that boat. To do otherwise will usually result in our ending up where? In bankruptcy court, if you haven't already been there.

Pledges are nice as pledges go. You violate a pledge as a politician and it seems to be no big deal. The same seems to go with making promises that one knows one will never be able to keep. Much of that is no more than political theater and partisan gamesmanship. The balanced budget part of the equation is contained S.J. Resolution 10 and H.J Resolution 56. Those resolutions are centered around the Lee-Coryn-Hatch balanced budget amendment.

The pledge asks us to contact our Senators and Congressman and demand their support of the "cut, cap and balance" proposal before any agreement to raise the debt ceiling is considered. It asks our elected representatives to adhere to such a pledge. I have done that more than once and will continue to do it as often as necessary. But the problem is the "teeth" so to speak. I would rather it be an oath. Oaths seem to be a bit stronger than pledges, a bit more solemn and somber. .

All the deal making needs to stop. That's what got us into this fiscal mess in the first place. All the grandstanding and political posturing needs to come to a screeching halt. One article I read geared these demands to the Republican Party. I'm furthering that demand to the Democratic Party too. I have the leisure of being a registered Independent so I'm getting sick of watching it as our nation moves closer and closer to economic ruin - all in the name of playing political games that have been played for too long with the same result over and over again. It's at our expense - all of us - no matter what you think. If you live in this country you will feel the economic devastation. You better wake up and start understanding that.

Any time a pledge is broken, or a campaign promise is violated, it has become a matter of shaking one's head, clucking of the tongues and the "I'm sorry about that" syndrome setting in. That's what politics in our nation have evolved into. Shrugging their shoulders, moving on and keep doing the same damned things expecting a different result. This country is in a fiscal mess. Who cares who is responsible for it? Start fixing the problems that have created it, before it's too late.

I reckon they could just raise the debt ceiling without doing anything about addressing the causes that have us in the hole $14.3 trillion and counting. That's the way they've always done business in the past - pull out another blank check at the tax payer's expense. Our credit standing with the world is sitting on the cliff looking over. One good push like that, one more time, and we've been forewarned about the result of doing so. Business as usual in our nation's Capitol needs to change to a different business model and quickly.

There does indeed come a time when you have to either put up or shut up. It's now here. I've already told my elected representatives that if they agree to raise the debt ceiling without instituting the measures of the Lee-Coryn-Hatch amendment that we will be quits. I go further though with them. I have told all of them that I will do everything in my power and within my resources to insure that whenever they seek reelection, be it in 2012, 2014 or 2016 I will be on their case like stink is on doo-doo. I don't dance around it or mince words about it and neither should anyone who is paying for this nonsense.

Fiscal conservatives, regardless of party, need to draw the line in the sand on this critical issue. We can't keep spending more money than is available to run an out of control federal bureaucracy. And the answer isn't to just raise taxes because you'll kill economic growth deader than a door nail if you do that. You can't raise taxes on ANYONE high enough to solve the problem. Any economist worth their salt will tell you that is a fact.

If any elected official, regardless of party, votes to raise the debt ceiling without making the necessary spending cuts they need to be trounced on in the upcoming primaries. You need to let your elected officials know in no uncertain terms that you are going to be one of the ones doing the trouncing. You see that is what they are most afraid of - not getting reelected. I find that rather abhorrent but also know that to be a fact. What we have is a pack of career, professionalism pickpockets on Capitol Hill making $174K plus perks for a part time job. Their actions, COLLECTIVELY, have brought us to this point. Notice the highlighted word there?

We've been held hostage long enough. It's time for us to take some hostages. Our hostages have to be those who are living the comfortable life. They now have to be held accountable for this mess, and instead of doing nothing, start doing what is necessary to fix the problems they have themselves created. If they refuse to participate they need to go. It's up to you as a citizen and tax payer to demand and petition them. Use your Constitutional right to demand the redress of your grievances. I've heard people say, "It doesn't do any good." My response is, and always will be, "You are absolutely right. It won't do a bit of good if you don't do it."

"Cut, cap and balance" using the Lee-Coryn-Hatch amendment BEFORE every raising the debt ceiling one skinny penny or they need to be removed from those plush, comfortable chambers they think are theirs. Those chambers, my fellow Americans, belong to the American tax payer. They should be nothing but our janitors and it's time to grab the mop, the right end of the mop and begin the task that needs to be done.

I'm known to use graphics to lighten the mood but honestly I am not in a light mood concerning something as critical as what this nation now faces. Pick up a pen, hit their e-mail and fax machines, use the phone or the Pony Express but get it through their thick heads, all of them, that enough is enough. I don't want a pledge from anyone. I want an "oath" because breaking an oath is a serious matter, to me anyway.

As Always,

The Frog Prince

This is from a speech Obama made in 2006

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.

Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is “trillion” with a “T.” That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.

Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.

Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities.

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006

Nuff Said?

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Annette 5 years ago

I have blogged that same quote of 0vomit's on the very same subject. Talk about being two-faced, but then we must remember that this usurper's intention for America is NOT to make her stronger. As I see it, this is a deliberate attempt to assist in the destruction and takeover of America, and I don't care if it be the Bilderbergs, the Muslims, the Russians, or whomever else might want to join that bandwagon - I am against it. The cut, cap and balance method is the only logical and sane avenue to pursue. Great blog.


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Mary Contrary 5 years ago from Columbus, OH

You're right on Frog, and no, there's no way to lighten the moment. My only wish is that the media bias would go away and the so called journalists would bring the message to the millions who only listen to what's on the six o'clock news.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mary - The networks evening news has the same value as toilet paper and is used for the same purpose. To wipe butts that aren't paying attention.


jamie 5 years ago

There appears to be some sort of strange phenomena {sneezepridesneeze} that happens when ones gets elected to office in Washington DC. When this occurs, the electee seems to forget EVERYTHING they campaigned on to begin with, they get up there with starts in their eyes, the driver opens the limo door, they step onto the capitol steps and they go stupid. Fire them, everyone! Plain and simple. Let's start over!


rip van winkle  5 years ago

they get to dc and think they are royalty, barbara boxer has proven that over and over with her arrogant remarks about how hard she has worked to get the title of congressperson, while disrespecting a highly decorated military man. i think she is lower than whale poop!


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breakfastpop 5 years ago

For so many in WAshington, getting there is their only goal and focus. Once they have accomplished securing office, all bets are off. Think you elected a representative, think again. Up and awesome.


Lynn S. Murphy 5 years ago

You say it so elequently and succinctly, putting into words what I'm thinking. Why does the electorate believe that once they're elected that the media and other outlets are suddenly going to "like" them. Or that they need to be liked. They were hired to do a job and they need to do the job. I'm just baffled by their lack of urgency.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

BPOP - I sent you an off line - Open Letter To Congress - which I sent to all three of mine again this morning which this article was the basis for. If anyone wants a copy of it to send to their Senators and Rep then contact me if you didn't receive it. They now need to be put on notice.

Lynn - It's really no mystery to me. What is going on right now up there is ALL about maintaining their power, authority and control. It isn't about "We, the People..." It is about "They, Themselves..." It's time for some change. It's time to change a lot of the same old tired faces, playing the same stupid games at the tax payer's expense.


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains

Obama's speech, compared to his nearly doubling the debt of the 8.5 Trillion he mentions - in just two short years, is crystal clear evidence that this man has no intention toward America's best interest. Let's add to that his faithful 20+ year attendance at Rev. Wright's "God-Dxxx" America - hate-whitey-church of the brethren.

Frog, let me ask you: What are guys like you and I supposed to do? Let me explain the brain-exploding dilemma. You see, like you, I too gave an oath to protect the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic upon entering the AF many years ago. Despite the age of my oath, the oath itself has no sunset clause - save for the oath takers death, until then its in effect.

We took the oath. Now, we stand and look at not only a president, but many judges, lawyers, elected officials and public servants who (in many cases, thanks to our glowing educational system) have no clue what the Constitution says or means, let alone any intention of following it.

So here people like us, are bound by an oath we take seriously, watching others defy the same. Is not one who defies that oath and the Constitution itself, a domestic enemy? And if they are not, then exactly what is?

What are we to do to fulfill our oath? I suppose one could say we are to vote them out of office, however, if one could summon the voices of the dead who gave their lives, liberty and property that we might have freedom, I can't in my mind imagine those voices saying, "Yes Harlan, I gave my life so you could "maybe" vote the domestic enemies out of office.

In 1803 Congress passed a law, that anyone violating the Constitution from the position of elected or civil office, was guilty of treason - regardless of time of war. The penalty was death by hanging.

In our modern warm-fuzzy society of "all is well" we can't even put the family-killing, baby rapers to death anymore. And, I believe that the 1803 law has since been either nullified or retired and no replacement law of any kind has been presented. Thus there is no punishment or consequence for violating your oath of office.

The reality is, society-at-large does not want to literally hang anyone for treason, and those in government have as much trouble defining treason as they do understanding the Constitution.

All considered, I believe we need some level of oath accountability act for politicians, judges, and the like. There needs to a "jury" of Constitutional apologist to take such matters into consideration and upon finding those guilty of violating their oath, having the power to disbar them from ever serving in public office again. I don't advocate putting anyone to death as Congress did in 1803, however, I think a complete disbarment and a one-way ticket home is suitable recourse.

As it is today, what are we who are bound by oath to do when we see our janitor's overthrowing the company, violating their oath and doing whatever they please?

Why are they taking an oath if they have no clue what's in it? How can they keep the oath if they know not what the Constitution even says? And if they do - that's even far more concerning and evil.

Why are we electing people to office who do not even know what it says? I think this is a very important issue, and once some checks and balances are in place, we can truly restore America, but until then, most of what we do is subject to failure from the weakest link. From what I can see, we have a lot of weak links not just in Washington, but in nearly every state, every county, city and position where such an oath is required.

Until this is fixed, any political direction we take in a positive direction is subject to the Constitutional fortitude and loyalty of the next idiot in line to raise his right hand say, "I do so solemnly swear to uphold the highest law of the land of which I have no idea what it says or means."

The oath of office is otherwise just a warm-fuzzy good-for-nothing formality that is killing our nation, it needs some teeth for America to survive. The lack of adherence to this oath is the direct cause for taking American's hostage and writing the blank checks that form the fiscal black hole we are all being sucked into.

- Harlan


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dahoglund 5 years ago from Wisconsin Rapids

It seems that most of the money spent is wasted, payoffs or just plain graft.That was the case with the "stimulus" spending that didn't even give a pretense at stimulating anything. Even if one believes in the prime the pump theory it was obvious that no priming was going on.

It is past time to live within our means because it is the ordinary folks that get hurt by this rreckless political spending.


partisan patriot 5 years ago

Froggy

Two points; Republicans are held accountable for their campaign promises; remember George H.W. Bush read my lips, no new taxes, well we know what happened there.

And sorry to disagree but there are no fiscal conservative Democrats; say what they will to get elected but remember Pelosi’s Light Brigade charge last year that gave us Health Care? To a man and woman when the chips were down and their vote was needed out the window went their fiscal conservative allegiance and they fell in lock step with Queen Nancy. Judas Iscariot Stupak is still collecting his 30 pieces of silver from the house floor for his vote!

There are no good Democrats, the phrase itself is an Oxymoron!


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b. Malin 5 years ago

Do as I say...Not as I do...We follow a Budget, Washington should follow a budget, short and simple. A very good Hub on the Long of it Froggy.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Frog, a great Hub, but I'd take it even further. No raise in the debt limit period. We need a combination of spending cuts and tax base enhancements that start running a surplus NOW. Trading an increase in the debt limit for a promise of future fiscal reform makes no sense; Congress won't keep the promise. If the promise is enshrined in law, they'll just violate or repeal it. The only thing that makes sense is to pass a law that gets us an operating surplus on the day of passage. That way there are no "future promises" to break. If this is too much of a jolt, we could pass the Ryan or RSC plan, and then follow up with phase II maybe a year or two later (this is the approach Cain has proposed). But the point is we shouln't be tying what we want to the opposite of what we want. We should just implement what needs to be done, period.

Stu


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34th Bomb Group 5 years ago from Western New York State

ALL these people have a sense of entitlement. They DESERVE this. B.S.

The worst of these are the Blacks who manage to win a spot in D.C. Now - I'm NOT being a racist here - although no doubt I'll be called one - somehow the meaning of that word has been flipped upside down since it used to mean a member of the Ku Klux Klan to anyone who doesn't fawn at the feet of ANY Black person - whether they're a politician or the 16 year olds pushing their baby carriages in front of my car despite what the signal says.

It's absolutely incomprehensible to me that Obama gets away with sh11 which would have brought down any other President. This guy humiliates our nation and the people of our nation at will while his wife goes on vacation after vacation on our dime.

I'm sick of it.


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Amy Becherer 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

I AM living within my means, which is squat since I got laid off. I've written letters to the Post Dispatch and wrote my rep when I lived in Hillsboro. I actually got real help from the rep, because she is actually a decent person. I spent all my time in an upheaval and uproar over, what I've found, I cannot change. I've become disillusioned regarding voting, too, because I've found campaigning is a different entity than what happens after election. My trust is at nil and my patience less. I'm tired of battling what feels like lost causes. Those that can make a difference don't listen, because they don't care. The letters I've sent to the White House have gotten me nothing but a poorly written response, probably from an illegal alien. I don't think my outrage has made one diddly damn bit of difference. I'm considering putting my energy into learning to rob banks without getting caught. I've decided if you can't beat, join 'em.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Amy - Rob banks. Easy woman!!!


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Amy Becherer 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

I'm smart. I might be good at it.


TimBryce 5 years ago

I know they are discussing the Balanced Budget act in Congress, but like so many of us, I no longer have faith the Congress will get it done. I am now of the belief it should be put forth to the American people as a national referendum. That will ultimately tell us how serious we are about solving this problem.

All the Best,

Tim


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Tim - I think part of the deal that will be made is for an amendment be put forth to the American people for ratification. At least that is what I have been reading so far.

The Frog


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American Romance 5 years ago from America

Excellent hub! This might be your best write so far! voted up!


34th Bomb Group 5 years ago

I'm with Amy...

I've written so many letters my fingers hurt. If I'm LUCKY I get the canned: "Thank you for your interest..."

I earn JUST too much - by $40/year - over the income levels for HEAP and Food Stamps. It's embarrassing, to ME anyway, to even ASK!!

These people have no shame. How could they? I think we're into the 4th or 5th generation of people on the dole. They don't have an ounce of self respect-hence their failure to better themselves and teach their children how one SHOULD support oneself and their family.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

34th BG - ah yes, the great progressive LBJ's creation of "The Great Society." It's breaking the back of our nation and creating whole classes of sponges who think it is their right to have the freebies now. It is sickening.

What it has done, it was intended to do, enslave generations who they can control.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog,

There is no provision in the Constitution for a national plebiscite. The only way to force the feds to balance the budget is via a Constitutional Convention (i.e., a 3/4 supermajority of the states have to vote for it).

Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - It can be done by a Constitutional amendment with the approval of the majority of the states. Prohibition wasn't addressed in the Constitution. The people spoke then they spoke again.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog, that's exactly what I said. 3/4 of the state legislatures can force it. But no "popular vote" can bring it about. Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - The states don't need to force it. Congress can pass the proposal and have it submitted to the states. Watch what is about to happen with any compromise.


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angie ashbourne 5 years ago

Hi! Frog Prince

Good Hub! I like the picture - Nuff Said? Angie


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marcoujor 5 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

Oh Mr Frog,

You continue to be my sweet onion as I learn so much from you... I LOVE that you are an independent-- I believe parties are for celebrating and it doesn't very much feel like a party on the low end of your excellent graphic!

Voted UP and AWESOME from mar!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog,

Technically you are correct, but I think it is unlikely that Congress will initiate it. Congress is still in the mode of increasing debt.

Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - Keep your eye on what Jim DeMint is doing.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Frog - give me a link. Thanks, Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - Go to his web site and take it from there.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Jim, not sure what you are referring to. DeMint's web site has a link to another web site promoting the Ryan Bill. Please provide a precise internal URL at DeMint's site. Thanks, Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - Here's his official site link. He has quite a bit there in his blog, issues and legislation, etc. He also has a news letter and is teamed up with the TPM side of the Senate membership. I get things quite often and his stance is that if there is going to be a compromise a balanced budget amendment will be included. Other sources I have read refer to the subject also. He, in letters to my inquiries, stands strong on that issue. He and Rand Paul seem to be behind the push.

http://demint.senate.gov/public/


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog,

Checked his Issues page. Not much on specifics. Will be tough to get a balanced budget amendment passed. The RNC plan only defrayed about 60% of the official deficit, and it couldn't even get by the House.

Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - I read things coming directly from DeMint since he is one of my Senators. Our RINO will hit the skids in 2014 when he comes up for reelection. Graham has been stepping on it right and left lately.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

I wonder why DeMint isn't running for president. I think he has as good a shot as any of the other TPM candidates.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - It seems to be all about timing.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Oh, so you think he'll announce?


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

Froggy, Love the cartoon, could it be based on reality? Our people must be getting dumber not to understand this. Only the (so to say) older people understand this, because those under our generation have been taught incorrectly. We will be left with only Israel to help us, they aren't big enough. H


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - He already stated he isn't going to run.

Harvey - Israel can pack one helluva a big stunning swing. But with Obama willing to throw them under the bus we better be able to count on them.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Yeah, I know DeMint said he wasn't going to run. So I guess you mean he might shoot for 2016?


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

Froggy, I can't say he would help. H

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