How to get out of paying taxes, including Obamacare LEGALLY!

When the House passed the so called “Health Reform Bill”, known as Obamacare and then the Supreme Court upheld the bill, I had a sinking feeling. I hope I'm wrong, I truly do, but I think that this bill has the potential to exponentially thrust us into the New World Order and pronto. However, even if this is true this is just the latest effort to strangle the middle class.


What is happening is that it is becoming more and more difficult to live a middle class life in these United States. The gist of this bill means that your taxes will go up (they will go up, I don't care what our handlers are telling us), you will pay for abortions and you will be required to have a national ID card. This is unacceptable to me and to a lot of people. And here is what I think you can do to avoid and diminish your participation. It's radical, it's difficult but it's a solution.


If you make less than $8,750 a year you don't have to pay federal income tax and you won't be forced into paying for health insurance. State income tax is another matter and varies from state to state of course but Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming do not levy an individual income tax and New Hampshire and Tennessee only tax interest and dividend income.

Now, you are saying how can anyone possibly manage on $8,750 a year, well it's not easy but it can be done. What you have to do is get free housing, or combine households and grow or get your own food. There are towns that are giving away homesteads because they are so desperate for cash in the form of property taxes. Also, there are places that you can buy land that has water on it and then put underground houses or build a cob house on it, mortgage free. In addition, the community can implement a barter system. The links for the land and the homes are below. I know, I know, this is a very radical idea. I'm not saying you have to do this, these are ideas, some may suit you, some may not, and you may have your own ideas. The land idea would be well suited for a community of people. There is also a book called Possum Living that has a lot of ideas about how to live on next to nothing for individuals and single families. The other thing that you could do right now is to get rid of your car, take public transportation or even get one of those new trikes and bike/trike your way to work. I plan on never owning another car again, hate them!

When you own your own land, do not pay a mortgage, grow your own food you don't "need" a lot of cash, it's called self-sufficiency. When you have no debt, $8,000 dollars a year is enough money. In fact, I would go further and say that your standard of living would actually be better...better than paying 40 to 50% of your income in taxes, better than commuting an hour or two a day to a dead-end job that you hate and better than leaving your family to work in a cubicle 10 hours (minimum) per day!


It is the middle class, the people making 40, 50 or 100 thousand a year that are going to be paying for all of this through taxation and inflation. If you insist on maintaining that lifestyle you will be squeezed and hard. By taking steps to avoid paying taxes, this illegitimate health care fraud and/or any other ponzi scheme the government throws at us, the New World Order is de-funded. You are not only escaping slavery but you are also are“de-funding” the New World Order. If enough people do this it may make a difference and at the very least YOU will be able to manage without participating in the system even if it is only for a little while longer...

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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA

If people are "middle class" now, they may not stay there. I think the taxation and medical premium costs will force the middle class business to lay of more workers and go out of business. We're heading toward rich and poor, no in between...just my thoughts. To defund the system is national financial collapse, bringing in the NWO even faster...implantable chip anyone? Absolutely NOT!! Come, Lord Jesus, come!!


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

What will be will be. Thanks for commenting Judah's Daughter.


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Vladimir Uhri 6 years ago from HubPages, FB

From the beginning to impress is going to be looking good. But later ... watch.

They need poor and the followers.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

All that glitters is not gold, eh Vladimir?


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Ralph Deeds 6 years ago

What is the "New World Order." Sounds like crapola from Lyndon LaRoach.


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Internetwriter62 6 years ago from Marco Island, Florida

Very true, I agree this health bill is the beginning of a dictatorship and the end of the will of the people. Yes the middle class has even more going against it, than ever before. We must be brave, for times are dark. Excellent hub, God Bless you Brie.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Ralph Deeds...google it and you will see...open your eyes and take the red pill.

Internetwriter62, thanks again for writing. Let's hope we are both mistaken.


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Disappearinghead 6 years ago from Wales, UK

This is nothing but right wing politics ranting against policies that are stil slightly right of centre. Where is your evidence of any New World Order? What you see here is nothing different to what has been in place in Europe for 50 years.

A health care system free at the point of need for everyone funded by a National Insurance tax. We've had it in the UK since 1948 and it is supprted by both right and left wing polticians. It is our heritage.

ID cards have been in place in Europe for decades, though not in the UK but we don't expect one any time soon.

Higher taxes for the middle classes. Welcome to the real world. We've had them for decades. And yes they will increase in order to repair the holes created by banking greed, corruption and incompetance.

Europe has seen socialist governments and right wing governments. They each come and go like the ebb and flow of the tides. From across the pond we don't see anything that could be remotely like a New World Order.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

The NWO is not my term, it is the term that Bush, Clinton and now Obama use, if you don't know what it is maybe you should do your homework before commenting.


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Ralph Deeds 6 years ago

New World Order according to Wikipedia--

In conspiracy theory, the term "New World Order" or "NWO" refers to the emergence of a bureaucratic collectivist one-world government.[6][7][8][9][10]

The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a powerful and secretive elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an autonomous world government, which would replace sovereign nation-states and put an end to international power struggles. Significant occurrences in politics and finance are speculated to be orchestrated by an extremely influential cabal operating through many front organizations. Numerous historical and current events are seen as steps in an on-going plot to achieve world domination through secret political gatherings and decision-making processes.[6][7][8][9][10]

Prior to the early 1990s, New World Order conspiracism was limited to two American countercultures, primarily the militantly anti-government right, and secondarily fundamentalist Christians concerned with end-time emergence of the Antichrist.[11] Skeptics, such as Michael Barkun and Chip Berlet, have expressed concern that right-wing conspiracy theories about a New World Order have now not only been embraced by many left-wing conspiracy theorists but have seeped into popular culture, thereby inaugurating an unrivaled period of people actively preparing for apocalyptic millenarian scenarios in the United States of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Political scientists warn that this mass hysteria may not only fuel lone-wolf terrorism but have devastating effects on American political life, such as the far right wooing the far left into joining an insurrectionary national-anarchist movement capable of subverting the established political powers.[9][12][13]


Harlan Colt 6 years ago

Mr.Deeds...

We the people gave life to this government. We created it to serve us. Now it is demanding we serve it. We the people are the power - not our public servants. Their job is to do our will and serve us, not themselves. They are no longer doing this. They are like a spoiled brat child who has learned how to manipulate the parent into submission. It is our right and our duty to take control of the arrogant, disobedient child and reign them back in line. This sir, does not make me Anti-government. I love government, and I hate lawlessness, especially lawlessness clothed in the form of legal authority. No, I am not anti-government, rather, I am anti-corrupt government. I want the limited government we created and sanctioned, not the corrupt, life-choking, money stealing, spoiled-brat monster it has become.

A spolied brat breaking windows on the porch is not a right or left wing political view, its just a spoiled brat breaking windows. And we sir, have a spoiled brat on the porch who needs a good spanking. If we don't do it, we will be sorry for ourselves and the future we leave our children.

No nation in the history of the world has ever taxed and spent itself into prosperity, but many have done just the opposite.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Go Harlan Go!


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA

Harlan sparked some thoughts in me ~ back when our Country was founded, people had the right to bear arms. Most Americans do not have war-time weaponry and our military is under the control of the president. Who would fight for our freedom once again? The ONLY weapons we have are 1) PRAYER and 2) Get these people OUT of office ASAP and try to UNDO what has been done...if we're not overtaken by the NWO by then!


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HOOWANTSTONO 6 years ago

I think the NWO is over rated, because the Bible namely Revelations says it will be destroyed, so its down fall has already started. Although the Tribulation and 666 are staring us in the face, which is also the sign of its fall coming soon. Come on the day of the Lord.

Peace


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Well, however short something is when it is painful it can seem terribly long, like bamboo under fingernails.


Chaz Cheddar 6 years ago

Hey Brie, thanks to this legislation, YOU who makes a pittance for salary might actually not have to worry abuot obtaining health insurance. Why does your paranoid mistrust of governmet blind you to the benefits of this program?

Take the Blue Pill, Brie. It's good for you. And might save you a trip to the doctor


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Whether that is true or not and it does remain to be seen, it still doesn't make it right.


Cheddar Chaz 6 years ago

Brie, you literally don't have your own pot to piss in. Aren't you at all grateful that when this is enacted, a poor thing like you has a shot at health care? That means if you get sick, your LIFE might be saved? Don't you value your own life? Or does lining up with the mad ravings of Alex Jones,the Teabaggers and the other nuts means more to you? And what about the millions of other lives that will be saved because of this? This is the ultimate pro-life program. But I guess that doesn't matter to you. Because the pro-fife I'm taling about is human beings AFTER they're born. Human beings like you who deserve to live healthy lives.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I do live a healthy life, and I don't need some government run program to stick a virus up my arm. Thanks but no thanks. I have no fear of death, I know where I am going. You just keep paying those taxes my friend, keep working hard, one of these days it will dawn on you what it is you are doing. As far as I'm concerned supporting this government is no better than supporting the Nazi regime.


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American Romance 6 years ago from America

reading the comments above, I see a host of ideas and some who have simply decided to give up! Here is the first step, VOTE for conservatives! 2nd teach your children how and why these laws are bad for America, 3rd be prepared to hear the call that the British are Coming! The military will not side with Obama, Americans are still center RIGHT, we have been man handled by thugs! Get up Sunday morning and take your family to church, Gods people have no fear of mere govt! and gain strength to tear down the walls of oppression!


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks for commenting American Romance. The future should be very interesting.


loriamoore 6 years ago

The Health Care "Reform" Bill passed is a huge mistake that will force many of us in middle-class to a lower standard of health care just to provide "free" coverage to the minority who don't want to work and live off of the government teat.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I think that is the least of it's faults.


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De Greek 6 years ago from UK

I live in the UK, not the US and of course you know your own country better, but as an outsider, I am curious, not argumentative: How would you feel if a child you actually know becomes sick and the parents do not have the funds to give it proper medical care? What about the poor who need medical assistance but cannot afford it? Perhaps there are answers to these questions that I am not aware of.

Thank you for this. It encourages thought :-)


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Personally, I do think that all children should be covered under universal insurance that could be paid for with the legalization of all drugs. As far as the poor, (which includes me right now :) I think that they will have to take their chances, rely on charity or if they get sick will have to die as we all will die of something sooner or later. I, would personally want that choice before I am forced to buy government insurance that I don't want.

Thanks for writing De Greek, all comments that are sincere are worthwhile.


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Portamenteff 6 years ago from Western Colorado, USA

Yeah. I've had to live on a little over $8750. I traded work for a place to live, gave my neigbor a few bucks a month for the password to his wifi, had a car that got 28 MPG, grew a garden, got a hunting license and hunted a deer. It can be done.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks for writing Portamenteff, I'm sure you have a lot of information about how you did that and it would benefit us all.


foreignpress 6 years ago from Denver

This health care bill is the first step to taking the mark. The bill states that if one does not pay then it's a fine and/or jail; i.e., it's an either/or dictate. So it will be with the mark. Europe, probably Britain, will be the first to use the implanted chip. These are truly exciting times. I can't wait for your next installment.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

LOL, I'm glad you are enjoying them. The next one is a poem and then...well you will have to wait and see.

BTW, I don't think you have to pay if you make less than a certain amount. I'm kind of counting on that :)


"Quill" 6 years ago

Hi Brie glad I dropped by as this hub has stirred a deeper interest in what we are coming too as I watch nation after nation slip deeper into debt.

Middle class is falling by the wayside as more and more homes, jobs are lost and the once middle class are falling well below the poverty level and yet the rich are getting richer.

Banks and Multi National Corps and business are taking control of peoples lives and people need to turn to the one who will save them. People are being blindsided with powerful political entities who are being controlled by the wealthy. It happens all over the world...

Blessings


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks for commenting Quill, I agree and will write more about it in the future.


Rick 6 years ago

Taxes are going up 1 percent to help the death care industry kill off the sick and poor. True health care is in the eye of the beholder. If we don't get sick, quacks don't make money. That's why FDA still allows poison preservatives in food to get us sick and Big Pharma sells toxic drugs to help us die.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I agree which is why I try to buy only real food and stay away from doctors and drugs.


Tchardo 6 years ago

The difference between the USA and Europe is that European countries are not excessively divided from within; they have concrete cultures and traditions which haven't been broken down yet into what we see now in the US: consumerism in place of actual culture, and flawed education. US citizens are cash-cows to-be or members of the financial elite.

I really don't think that they need socialized healthcare to further their ends toward consolidation and growth. It's happening perfectly already.

Besides all this... the world has been headed in this direction since nuclear weapons and the end of world war two. They have control of us in every way, as you can see in every attempt to organize useful numbers toward any purpose they don't approve of, and even if their control was effectively challenged, it could not be so without falling into the background layer of threat here: proliferation of weapons of mass destruction; if the US withdraws (their immoral) foreign influence, or faces enough conflict from within, then there's nothing controlling all the nations out there which could quickly render the rest of the planet uninhabitable by humanity for a very long time. The entire planet is held hostage by the US government's need to keep things together, their citizens are no different.

No, I think rather instead that the US cares much more about its economic situation than it does about its already shrinking middle-class.

As far as the implants and everything... well... we already have it in a way; we all carry around credit cards, bank cards, identification, and such; there's essentially no difference between those things and implanted chips (chips can just be carried instead pretty easily)

I do agree with the general gist of a lot of thinking about living independently of commercial influences on lifestyle, though; they're shady as hell in that we don't know how we get the food we do, what they add to the food, the effects of their genetic tampering on food both ecologically and from ingestion over time, what they do to everything coming in and out of our bodies. Also, psychologically, they're manipulating us with countless tools... mostly based around pitting us against ourselves to the point where we're too busy competing for things that we don't need to keep what we do, or to advance as a species beyond those petty plights and limitations, especially with free-thinking education or spiritual advancement.

If you're worried about the working class though, you should instead, I think, look at the obvious big picture patterns; perhaps most notably: no wage increases, just increased inflation, and then maybe the weakening of the political voice of labor (but that's really just a shot at republicans/conservatives ;) I couldn't resist - sorry )


Steverino 6 years ago

You negativists are in the doldrums. I too have my moments. Some periods of the doldrums (look it up) have been longer than others... The doldrums are sly and try to get at me now and then but I look inside rather than absorb that waste from outside... I make my own wind.

The most important thing that I've done is give away the TV and the radio. Without them I am forced to rely on my own instincts, my own perceptions, my own real experiences/memories... They are more real for me than anything blathered at me by outside motivations. I have put dwelling aside for today and tomorrow. This moment for me is far more important than any that have already passed.

Anywise, stop watching "the news" and check yourself out and see what you have to work with and build upon. Hobby? Interest? Something that someone you love is into? Grab onto that "something" and get into it and allow it to give you joy. Give yourself joy. Grab that special thing and run with it through the glorious field of love that caries you, lets you go, catches you again and put's that teary eyed painful grin on your face. Fall into it. Laugh. Out loud.

Read the Desiderata. That is all you really need.

This is what I can do.


Charles 6 years ago

the nwo is coming. i don't know if it will happen real soon or not. sometimes it looks like it could happen real soon. but i do know the one that knows all things. i also know that when i have wondered from home and wanted to come back he came running to meet me where i was forgave me and made me feel at home again. time after time my father has met my needs to the point that now i don't worry about what might happen tomorrow or next year. my father will supply all my needs according to his riches in heaven. GOD has never said to hide away but to be a lite shining in the darkness. he also says many times. do not fear.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

All true, thanks for writing Charles, see you on the other side :)


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MAMBORD 6 years ago from spain

The NWO is not really so new. It cames at least from the French Revolution, and the " Iluminatti". It's always been good and evil fighting amongst themselves, on everywhere.

In Spain we've got NHS from many decades ago, and in my opinion is necessary for the poor.

I find the idea you pose in this hub very interesting.


Me 6 years ago

You say to grow your own food, too bad that will be against the law when they pass the new bill that has govt taken full control of all seeds. It will be illegal to grow corn in your backyard.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Grow it anyway...make sure everyone grows it, that way they won't have enough room in the jail for the whole town!


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maplethorpej 6 years ago from Minneapolis, Minn.

If the government didn't micromanage our lives and regulate every aspect about them, I wouldn't mind paying a bit more in taxes to ensure a healthier society. The problem is that everything is so controlled that we don't have options anymore. It's illegal to grow certain planets for God's sake.

If we want to make a positive change, we have to move towards better individual representation. I wrote an article about this in one of my hubs.

The positive thing about this Health Care Bill is that because everyone is required to have insurance, hospitals won't lose out on money when a patient can't pay. Therefore hospitals will have more money and be able to offer a higher level of service.

Anyways, I haven't read the bill, just heard a lot about it... I hope things get better soon.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Me too, but don't hold your breath, read some of my other hubs to find out why.


Citizen 6 years ago

Did you stop to think, this is exactly what they want, the rich and the poor. The poor are powerless. The poor become the true slaves. The middle class has to fight back. Vote the bastards out of office. We need term limits, we need to get rid of the lobbyists, and we need to have true representation for "We The People". I'm NOT living underground!!!


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Harlan Colt 6 years ago from the Rocky Mountains

Brie,

I hate being offshore with this rotten internet. I miss reading your stuff.

I wanted to tell you, I have a National ID card. It is required to work offshore and get on secure sea ports, part of the new Homeland security stuff. The ID card has 666 right on the front. It's not your typical 666 but the one they use in the New Age Bible, "The Keys of Enoch." Its a triqueta. Google Triqueta, research it, also Mobius, many huge companies use it in their logo, Mitsubishi's logo is one. I am going to write a hub on it when I get home, and post a pic of it on my National ID card too. Don't worry, I didn't have to take any kind of satanic pledge or anything to get it, infact I didn't even notice it was on there until after I had it for awhile. It's one of those lazer-reflective anti-counterfiet designs, its kind of hard to see, but I kept angling it just right and taking pictures of it till I got it right. I'll post it soon.

P.S. You say you hate cars, but I think you would love a 57 Chevy... I mean who doesn't? Right? (Don't you dare pop my balloon, I need to believe... - LOL).

- Best Wishes always,

- Harlan


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Wow Harlan!

I miss you too, and am looking forward to your safe return and more hubs. The mark of the best goes on your hand or forehead anyway so I wouldn't worry too much although I do find it very weird that it has 666 on it.


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ru blog 6 years ago from Anchorage, Alaska

Interesting thoughts upon dealing with the impending possibilities of our new legislation. I think the last year and a half or so has been the biggest power grab since the New Deal. I also think it scary. However, moving underground as a means to cope with unwanted, unhealthy, and unfair government intrusion seems the opposite way we should go as citizens. Democracy is not a political system, rather a struggle. It is now the middle class' turn to embrace said struggle. This slew of legislation since the new presidency has woken the silent majority in this country. Only time will tell if it is enough to reverse course. Let us hope. Remember, dissent is the highest form of patriotism.


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vaguesan 6 years ago from Osaka, Japan

wow the things being said on the comments are getting wackier and wackier.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Any in particular?


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JON EWALL 6 years ago from usa

hubbers

Do you remember the discussions regarding the union health plans? At the time President Barak Obama said that unions will not be exempt from the new law. I guess Pelosi was right when she said ''we need to pass the bill to find out what's in it '', how true now after the fact.

The press exposed the president's false statement. In the bill Unions healthcare plans will be grandfathered, the bill excludes union plans and the higher tax rates. Businesses are crying foul.

June 1st a change in doctor reimbursement under Medicare kicked in. Medicare will cut payments to doctors 21% from what was cut before. The doctors are complaining that reduced payment don't cover the cost of business services.

The CBO was not given the above information when they scored the healthcare bill.

When Obama signed the bill, companies were forced to charge billions of dollars against earnings creating a big problem for many companies.

There are more surprises coming simply because the Obama administration did not honestly give the CBO proper information to show the true cost of the bill if passed. The deficit in the bill will be at least $1 trillion or more when other items will surface in the future.


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msorensson 6 years ago

Great hub and superb analysis.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks msorensson


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belliott 6 years ago

Certainly provoked a lot of comments here. I viewed the Possum Living videos. All three. Very interesting.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I have the book...I tell you one thing ..that girl will never starve!


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my javafit coffee 6 years ago from Pleasanton, Ca

I agree that the middle class is being squeezed hard and I also think the health care reform package as is will be a disaster.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I think so too.


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someonewhoknows 6 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

Vaguesan An appropriate hubname for someone who was born in America and ends up moving to Japan and somehow seems to think the comments being made on this hub are wacky?

Maybe he is just looking for attention to his hubs?

Then countries that still have monarchies ,or recently had them like Japan seem to at least tolerate them ,or unknowingly think that they are free from them.Yet the public still supports them wheather they know it or not.

Pride goeth before a fall was never truer than it is now.

Even Africa one of the most downtroden continents in the history of the world still has monarchies.

Monarchies seem to me to represent the pride of a people.I think this is where the saying ;"Pride goeth before a fall " comes from. It seems like everyone who supports a monarchy identify with their leadrs insofar as they born under it.However life is not static and there is another saying ;

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.


Texasbeta 6 years ago

So, you drive the roads, live in the country with a standing military to protect you from external threats, enjoy the ability to get any job you want if you can pull it off, go to the store and buy whatever you want, but you don't want to pay your fair share huh? Classic. Yeah, keep telling yourself that you are a good American, while looking in the mirror, as that reflection is the only one who will agree with you.

Taxes haven't statistically increased in 18 years. Right now, taxes are at their lowest point since the 50s. With regards to being required to have health insurance, and how "you don't want to pay for other people's health care", you are doing that right at this very second. Your taxes go to people who go to the emergency room for treatment, which is a vast number and growing. The income gap currently is at its highest level since the 20s, and that DIDN'T start during Obama. I find it hilarious that the very thing you are fighting against, a global world order, is the very thing your conservatives promote. However, the difference is they promote it through economic interests, via large mega corporations. There is no voting, no dissent. They buy everything. It was the Republicans who put into place the tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas. They spin you around with stories of a national id card (odd you are against that but I am almost positive you are for Arizona requiring people to provide their "papers" upon request), while they allow Enron to write oil legislation and buy up half of South America. What a marvelous sham they have in place, and as long as they keep you pointing your finger at each other and buying their corporate backed rhetoric, the easier it is for them. You are wonderful pawns in a game that is against you.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

YOUR TAXES go to torture and kill innocent people as well as finance illegal wars and billionaire bail-outs. I refuse to pay for that...As far as I'm concerned this county is no better than Germany under Hitler...if you would open your eyes you could see that as well...

I'm not a pawn, I don't play their game...you do.


Texasbeta 6 years ago

With rights come responsibilities, not just saying I am taking my ball and going home.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Oh? And what have the banks done with all their responsibilities...what a shill you are for the bankers. Tell me are you a Mason too?


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bayoulady 6 years ago from Northern Louisiana,USA

great hub! I don't want to go to the extremes, but i just retired, so I definitely need to cut back expenses every way I can!


Texasbeta 6 years ago

Brie, I am very confused by your positioning. As a liberal, the banks and wall street are viewed as the scam artist scum bags from my/our perspective. From our perspective, it was the Republicans who blocked Wall Street reform, being that...well, it was the Republicans who were blocking reform. There is never and issue with regards to enacting or enforcing regulation and oversight on big business from the liberal perspective, as we feel it ALWAYS needs to be watched. It is our perspective that the government is owned by big business, oil companies, defense contractors, prison lobbyists, pharmaceutical companies, etc. So, it is obviously strange that you would ask if I back the banks. However, I am not sure where you are coming from...maybe I am just dim. With regards to being a Mason, again, liberal..."of the people" mentality, so no. However, I was in a college fraternity back in the day, but I can tell you that wasn't for political reasons.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Ok Tex, maybe I was too hard on you. It's difficult for me when I meet up with someone like you (who knows only half the story). The whole Reps vs. Dems is a sham. You only see what they want you to see, it's much deeper than that. It's hard for me to explain this all to you but you are being played (as is most of the country). The powers that be want to keep us fighting amongst ourselves via liberal vs. conservative etc in order to keep pulling the strings. It works and that is why they do it. The WHOLE system is corrupt down to it's very core. The only thing I can suggest to you is to start looking, read books, read "The Creature from Jekyl Island" for starters, then read some books about the Bilderburgers and then maybe you can graduate to the Illuminati and the Masons. Then maybe you will understand that to focus on Dems vs. Reps is useless. We are living in the Matrix baby...time to start waking up.


Texasbeta 6 years ago

Nope, I have spent quite a bit of time on the global conspiracy theories; they are just not cup of tea. Too flimsy.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

There are none so blind as those who will not see.


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caretakerray 6 years ago from Michigan U.S.A.

Brie Hoffman:

Very good Hub! Of course not many people are going to "drop out" of society just to stop the 'handlers'. Our best hope is to use the best tool we have...VOTE. Let's tell them we demand our freedom!

thanx caretakerray :)


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

No, but they might not have a choice before long. The problem with voting is that both sides represent the same thieves...not only that but the voting process is full of fraud.

thanks for the comments.


amorea13 6 years ago

Brie - wonderful hub - I just found it! Fabulous that you know all this and have the courage and determination to 'stick' it to whoever chooses to listen!

I'm in England and I just can't believe (well, actually now I can!) how so many people follow the political pantomime they deal us with such slavish confidence.

They are ALL the same as you so rightly put it and there are SO many things that they have (ingeniously) set up for us to trip over for the last 300 years!

As you know it all began with the bankers who are currently publicly 'disgraced' as we know (temporarily) but we STILL don't wake-up!

Your ideas are sound and being now in a similar financial position as you after years of taxable wealth I feel the same 'vibes' coming at me!

To those who believe they know where our taxes go - stop right now - they don't go for ANY public service and haven't for decades! They mostly go to re-pay the truly vast amounts of interest accrued by their diabolic (fair word in view of what we know!) scam.

Time to do something alternative - and that aint voting!

Wonderful hub Brie - thanks and I'm hunting your work from now on!


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks amorea13, I need all the friends I can get, we all do..we have to stick together.


huh? 6 years ago

what makes you think that barter transactions are not taxed the exact same way cash transactions are?


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Um because no one knows that you are trading something... And, how would they be taxed?


Russ Frazier 6 years ago

A Johnson & Johnson heir wrote a book about the 1%.About how the wealthy never talk about finances.He investigated how past civilizations crumbled-When there is nothing but ultra rich and dirt poor,there is no middle to hold anything together.

NWO is here,like it or not-There is no left/right,Dems/Rep.Only those who are truly in power telling the "leaders" that you can SEE what to do.Bilderberg types.

Flouride,chemtrails,faux viruses/vaccines...

I'm not smart enough to know what to do,however there IS power in numbers.Before Internet 2 arrives,perhaps we can all get over our petty grievances("race",class,caste)that is just what THEY want us to do,squabble over nonsensical stuff not realizing that we are the unwashed masses while the power elite rob us blind,making us "grateful"for the crumbs that we get.

We worry about People on welfare,when Corporate welfare has been going on forever-Now they call it bailouts.

Some Theologians have stated that 666 may NOT be the mark of the beast,but 616.Interesting.Love this blog.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks for your comments Russ.


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nicomp 6 years ago from Ohio, USA

"t is the middle class, the people making 40, 50 or 100 thousand a year that are going to be paying for all of this through taxation."

Umm... no.

The highest 20% of income earners pay 80% of income tax.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2009/05/T...


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

nicomp: You are right, maybe I should have said that the middle class pay a greater percentage of their income for taxes than the rich.


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nicomp 6 years ago from Ohio, USA

"nicomp: You are right, maybe I should have said that the middle class pay a greater percentage of their income for taxes than the rich."

Good. The middle class realize more benefits than the rich. The rich have to pay for their own housing, health insurance, transportation, health care, and when they die the government confiscates most of their stuff in taxes. The middle class and lower(?) class both ride on the back of the upper (!) class.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Well, I'll trade places with you any day if you are upper class! And I am damn sure you wouldn't trade places with someone if they were lower class so your argument is moot.


brooke 6 years ago

I see both sides of this argument. Let me begin by saying my mom has a master's degree in behaviorial science and has worked for both cps and the department of health and human services . She is now a fincinial advisor that's right people she has a master's degree in behavioral science with an emphasis in social work and she now tells you how to invest your money wisely. That's because when she worked for the state she got a first hand look at welfare in this country and it sucks. We don't help the people we should or that need help the most instead we help those trying to live off of our tax dollars. Welfare should be a hand up not a hand out. Now back to healthcare let me begin by saying that I was diagnosed with a chronic illness at the age of 11. It took me almost dying while under my pedtriacians care the whole time for them to figure out what was wrong with me. Thank god I was raised an hour away from the houston medical center because the doctors at texas childrens saved my life. The dr's and my mom because they taught me to educate myself about my illness and to never have blind faith in anyone. After being diagnosed it took about two years for them to find the right combination of medication and then my illness was fairly controlled. Luckily I had access to good insurance through my mom and stepdad till in college when I aged out. Then I began dealing with pre existing condtion clauses and insurance companies not paying. In 2007 after 18 years of being on predinisone a medical steroid my body began rejecting it. I was 27 years old my blood sugar shot up over 1200 I lived in the hospital for two years straight almost with no insurance too sick to work racking up over a million dollars in hospital bills. 4 doctors all independantly from one another all told social security I would be dead by age 35 if I did not get off the steroids and on remicade which cost 3000 a treatment every 8 weeks. So then finally after 18 years in Nov. of last year I got my disability. Finally I thought I will have insurance and my nightmares will be over I thought wrong. Let me first begin by saying I in no way enjoy living off the government. I used to make in a week what I make in amonth. If they would just provide me health insurance that's affordable that covers preexisting conditions they could keep their check. Under those terms I would gladly return to work I have always worked twice as hard as everyone else generally and I love to work. Second that the government system is the worst ran form of healthcare. I still fight for my life everyday . Every month I fight with accountants behind a desk with no medical training to get my medicines covered. You see in texas a vendor prescription company has final say over whether you get your medication or not. I have no problem saving money I'm all for it granted it doesn't cost me my life. Here's what I mean I also take an imunnosuppressant anti-rejection drug called imuran I've taken it for 18 years now. Once on it you can not just switch medication at the drop of a hat because it will send your system into shock or will cause your organs to stop functioning resulting in death. If it doesn't kill you the hospital bill would be at least a half a million dollars. Yes people the idiot accountants at this company with no medical training can override my whole team of doctors and potentially risk that kind of hospital bill in an effort to save a couple hundred dollars. It infuriates me that my life means so little to these people and that I could still die any day. And the americans with disabilties act is a joke I have been ridculed constantly since becoming disabled. After all I live off the government I must be a moron right. I could read at college level in elementary school, graduted magna cum laude in hs and have deans highest honors in college, I also have been liscenced, bonded, have fbi clearance and pass fbi background checks every semster yet because I'm sick I must be uneducated and dumb right? Get real people just give me insurance coverage that pays for my medication and treatments and you can keep ur disabled bull**** and ill go back to work.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Brooke, while I sympathize with your predicament I think that your situation is not what is addressed in this article. Whether pre-existing conditions should or should not be covered by insurance is a completely different topic than the one I addressed.

I sympathize in the same way as I sympathize with illegal aliens coming to the U.S. for a better life. Would I do it if it were me? Probably. Do I support it? No. If I were fighting for my life I would do whatever I had to but do I support policy that forces everyone else to pay for it..I have to say probably not.

Thanks for commenting.


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Larry Fields 4 years ago from Northern California

My main beef with Obamacare is that it will do precious little to bring down health care costs. I do not have a philosophical objection to government-run health care. There are some things that government CAN do more efficiently than giant corporations, and health care is one of them.

At the moment, the USA has the most expensive health care in the world. And it's truly tenth-rate in terms of its overall outcomes, like infant mortality.

Several years ago, there was an article about health care in Consumer Reports. Canadians spend 9% of every health care dollar on paper-pushing. Guess what we spend. Would you believe 24%? That ain't gonna change anytime soon.

Barry made it very clear that he was not going to 'lean on' insurance companies, HMOs, or Big Pharma. That was one reason why Obamacare was able to wend its way through the hallowed halls of Congress.

However government pressure on Big Pharma partly explains why other developed countries can offer superior national health care at lower cost.

I fear that we Americans do not have the collective brains to put together a national health care system that really delivers the goods. And Obamacare is a partial confirmation of that fear.

Voted up.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks Larry for your comments.


foreignpress 4 years ago from Denver

Nice hub. But mostly I'm using this forum to ask a question: When are you going to write your hub on the 5-4 Supreme Court decision and John Roberts' traitorous aligning with the libs? I'm totally convinced that Roberts was swayed at the last minute by Satan, but others have other opinions. And besides which, the NWO could not happen without Obamacare and the open-ended tax provision Roberts gave Congress. Regardless, your hub is eagerly awaited.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks foreignpress. Regarding Roberts, I am not surprised at all. Our country is already gone. There is not Left/Right or Conservative/Liberal..that is all a game.

While I hope against hope I know the reality. We are heading into judgment and everything is in God's hands.


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Larry Fields 4 years ago from Northern California

Hi foreignpress. The Supremes' recent ruling on Obamacare is not quite the rubber stamp that our infotainment is claiming. Robert's majority opinion, which involves some technicalities, leaves the door open for overturning Obamacare a few years down the road. Hub author Chuck has written an outstanding piece about this.


foreignpress 4 years ago from Denver

Brie's hub is probably not the forum to discuss this. I do agree with Brie, however, that the American "sheeple" have thrown in the towel. Roberts could have quashed Obamacare in an instant. Instead, he decided to let the system -- and the American people -- take the reins which will only throw this country into further disarray. Romney vows to repeal Obamacare while Pelosi vows to reinstate it -- and so it goes ad infinitum. In the meantime, for lack of direction down goes America. Tell me, please, there isn't a supernatural tinge to this nonsense. BTW, is this the same Chuck who's also an ultraliberal? I can't wait to read what he has to say.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

You've hit the nail on the head "foreignpress", the Supernatural connection is key.


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Larry Fields 4 years ago from Northern California

Foreignpress wrote:

"BTW, is this the same Chuck who's also an ultraliberal?"

Ultraliberal? Yeah, right. That's why Chuck wrote:

"I still think that this law is one of the worst pieces of socialist legislation in American history and want to see it repealed as soon as possible."


foreignpress 4 years ago from Denver

Thank you. Sorry that I used your excellent hub for an off-topic soapbox. But, as conservative commentator Hugh Hewitt said today, "This country is in deep trouble." So what to do? Pull up a chair, sit back, and watch the fireworks, or keep up the good fight? More painful, is that I'm starting to see little difference between Romney and Obama.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

No apology necessary, we are all struggling with this horrible tyranny.


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Doodlehead 3 years ago from Northern California

Obamacare is a blank check. People do not understand how tyranny historically comes about due to debt. People think ---yeah----we can just print the money....no problema.....


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Brie Hoffman 3 years ago from Manhattan Author

I know "Doodlehead" it is a constant source of frustration for me.


Kubo 3 years ago

To uneducated! One cannot have distribution of wealth (transfer money to gov.) without opposition. The result will be “dictature”.


james 3 years ago

I just won't pay evade the police and evade the taxes, hell i will just start out working for cash only and cheat this system bent on destroying white people in their own nation!


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Brie Hoffman 3 years ago from Manhattan Author

I think it's bent on destroying all people not just white people..geez!

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