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I will quote from the first part of the video, then you watch it and listen very closely. I will be sending this video to both my Senators today for there viewing pleasure.  Please take the time to go to your Senators website and send them the You Tube link and ask for an explanation. In other words, get involved and stay involved.

Here's the quote:

"The only people who don't want to disclose the truth have something to hide."

Barack Hussein Obama

Trump This But Listen Closely Before You Speak

Interesting FACTS and that is exactly what you just viewed. I find it incredible that John McCain's citizenship was challenged in 2008, though the citizenship of Obama was given a free pass. Even more incredible is the FACT that, then, Senator Obama co-authored Resolution 511. It clearly outlines in the US Constitution the eligibility requirements to become the President of our nation. Senate Resolution 511 added clarity to the requirements.

Senate Resolution 511 uses very specific language regarding the qualifications in order to comply with Section 1, Article 2 of the US Constitution. Obama helped write that very resolution. "Born to American citizens" is right there on the document that bears his signature.

Then FactCheck.org, which liberals love to use as a reference, verified that Barack Hussein Obama was a Kenyan citizen until August 4, 1984. His own website FightTheSmears.com admits that Obama was a Kenyan citizen until he was 23 years old. It's right there. Go read it if you must.

Do you ever wonder why Obama's college records are sealed? Aren't you even curious as to why he bothered to seal those records? Try connecting the dots. A college education costs money. I know because I paid for mine. Where would a college student, in particular a foreign college student, go to get grants and aid to pay the bills? Get the picture? Even slightly? See I don't want to see his long form BC. I want to see his college admission and academic records. They are being hidden, at a great expense I might add. They will tell the tale.

Obama's father, no one knows really who his father is, supposedly was a British subject with Kenyan citizenship. Obama admits on his website that he held Kenyan citizenship. His own words again on his own website..

Did Obama forget what he co-authored and wrote to confirm that John McCain was a natural born citizen? That's doubtful. Enough hair splitting liberals. He wrote what you just witnessed.

Yes Obama, "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide." So, what are you hiding?

Do we have a usurper sitting in the seat that a qualified POTUS should occupy? If so, and this is my theory only, we will have the greatest constitutional crisis this nation has ever seen. And why? Because Obama was given a free pass even when the question of John McCain's citizenship came into question. Is that why all "The Great Thinkers" on Capitol Hill don't want to do what should have also been done to Obama that they subjected McCain to? Is that why the SCOTUS is shying away from his eligibility? They maybe don't want to have to contend with all the issues the court would suddenly be subjected to?

It's time to settle the issues here once and for all. I'm not a birther per se but a concerned, natural born citizen who wants the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I will now always remember Obama's statement at the beginning and end of that factual video.

"THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE THE TRUTH ARE PEOPLE WITH SOMETHING TO HIDE."

So let the disclosure begin. After all Obama, you obviously have nothing to hide? Right?

As Always,

The Frog

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Wayne Brown 5 years ago from Texas

Awesome! I think you nailed it, Frog! Great stuff! WB


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Alastar Packer 5 years ago from North Carolina

Barry must be compromised to say the least. Another bulls-eye Frog. When you try to tell rad. lefters they plug their ears up like those people in the bible that stoned Stephen.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Alastar - The man himself helped choose the specific wording here. It isn't at all about the birth certificate. It is really all about what would be found in his college record files.


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The Frog Princess 5 years ago from Florence area of the Great Pee Dee of South Carolina

Time for the Truth of Obama and his non citizen parent bring him down. Enough is Enough. Americans it is time for "The Change" alright. Obama must go and go now....


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breakfastpop 5 years ago

i agree it's time to get the truth our once and for all. What I find repulsive is how many people will argue that even if he is not a citizen they do not care. Who is this guy? Up and awesome.


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

Awesome - You know the MSM will not touch this. His loyal following will ignore it even if Obumma himself told them it was true.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Poolman - I sent this video to both my Senators this morning since they were party to the unanimous consent to SR 511. I asked for a specific reply. Maybe you should follow suit.

This is a smoke screen to conceal the contents of his academic past. I now believe that to be totally true. He accepted foreign tuition aid as a foreign student. It's called defrauding the United States of America which is a felony.

The Frog


Sunnie Day 5 years ago

Good Morning Frog,

I am just amazed that this can be so conveniently swept under the carpet..I am sure it is as exactly as you said.. they do not want to bring it out now and deal with the consequences of the fallout. It is time to get this out, so the issue can be settled once and for all. Thanks Frog for keeping us up on all the happenings.

Have a great day.

Sunnie


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Hmrjmr1 5 years ago from Georgia, USA

FP - Yep time to start an email campaign on this to all our elected reps. It's time to root out the truth and make it known far and wide.

Great job lad, voted up and awesome.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Hhr - See my response above to Poolman. I want answers now since all those Senators subjected McCain to SR 511 and didn't touch on The Anointed One.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog,

Hate to burst your bubble, but I've seen this clip before, and it is not dispositive regarding Obama.

The real issue is this: what is Obama's true date of birth? This determines what definition of "natural born" applies to him (since the definition under law has changed over time). Not having a certified birth certificate, there is no way to determine which law to apply.

Some claim that based on Obama's claimed date of birth, the law applying to natural born status in respect of persons with a single American parent was as follows:

(1) The American parent must have resided in the US for at least ten years prior to giving birth (Obama's mother appears to have met this test), and

(2) At least five of the years in (1) must be continuous, begin on or after age 16, and continue uninterrupted until the child is born.

Test (2) is the problem for Obama. Obama's mother was ostensibly 18 when Obama was born. Test (2) clearly requires the American parent to be at least 21 at the birth date of the child in order to confer American citizenship.

The problem we have is that without a certified birth certificate, we don't know Obama's true date of birth, so we don't know what body of law is applicable.

Stu


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tony0724 5 years ago from san diego calif

Very interesting Froggy. I just wish he would put an end to this mess and for that matter get out of the Whitehouse.


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Carpefriggingdiem 5 years ago

Here is a link to the Factcheck article: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_...

Here is the thing that a lot of people are missing---and it is the key:

If we do not adhere to reasonable standards for establishing citizenship on this specific issue, the precedent has been set that we will let anyone run for the office of president. This can come back to bite us later---when yet another (perhaps even MORE dangerous) personality runs for the office.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - I see it differently. I don't care about his damned BC. The proof will be in his college records. He is hiding not only any long form BC, which I doubt exists, and all his academic records. Why?

tony - I think it is high time that we issue an eviction notice myself. I put his quote on tape there for a specific, obvious reason. If he believes that it's time to lay all of it out on the table.

Carpe - I hear you. They had the audacity to question McCain's citizenship and ignored the more obvious of the two. I verified everything this man said before I hit the publish button.

The Frog


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog,

While I think the certified long form BC is critical (as his true birth date, so far indeterminable, determines which body of US law determines "natural born" status for children of a single American parent), the academic records may also have a bearing on the citizenship question.

Obama is reputed to have studied in Pakistan on a scholarship in 1981. At the time, Pakistan was on the State Dept.'s "no entry" list. This may indicate that Obama had non-US citizenship at the time. Absent dual citizenship in the US, this might be a smoking gun. Sadly, without the academic records, there is no way to confirm or deny the facts on this question.

Stu


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50 Caliber 5 years ago from Arizona

Frog,

http://www.movie2k.to/Inside-Job-watch-movie-52556

watch this 108minute video, the answer lies in the way back,

Of presidents who sold us out.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - Since when is it to be considered convenient to be selective about what country you are a citizen of? It's okay when applying for aid to foreign students? It's okay to travel to Pakistan when, at the time, no US citizen could depart this country for that country? He, in fact by his own admission, was in Pakistan at the time in question. How did he get there? Illegally?

You sometimes try to analyze things too much. That isn't a criticism but the way you are. The answers to all of this will be found in his college records. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts. The BC issue is but a smoke screen for what lies beneath it.

Dusty - Got you pal. Will take a look and thanks for the link.

The Frog


partisan patriot 5 years ago

Froggy

Great in depth analysis and extremely well laid out; all in all great hub; rated up and awesome!


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

TFp,

Great read unfortunately-

No one seems to have the balsa to push thisissue to its conclusion- my question is why has he spent 700 million to seal his records-"smell duck-looks duck-quacks-duck its a a duck"

TH


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog,

I don't think we are totally disagreeing with each other. I personally believe, as I suspect you do, that his hidden academic records impinge on the POTUS eligibility issue.

I'm simply saying the the absence of an official long form BC is not "unimportant."

My point is that BOTH are important to getting to the bottom of this. This is obviously why both are being hidden from us. I suspect release of either one would blow him out of the water. But who am I to question HRH; I don't have "standing," even though I have to obey every stupid thing he scribbles on a Post-It note.

Have you heard about the Corsi book that is about to go public? WND says it will be the shocker of the year. Maybe Oblabber will finally get outed with real proof. Blustering Biden is no bargain, but maybe with Oblabber gone, some of the gridlock in Congress would melt.

Stu


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cjv123 5 years ago from Michigan

Let's keep beating this drum. One way or another, let's get this poser out of the office of President of the United states legally and constitutionally. To be CLEAR - I do not mean that ANY harm, physically should ever befall this President (or any other President). We MUST either vote him out or impeach him or have him drop out by default.

The only problem is - if we get him out of office because of these things - because of his parentage, he can't be President, and it's before 2012 - Joe will be President. I shudder to think...

If he's not Constitutionally eligible to actually hold office, the Healthcare bill will be POOF! Wouldn't that be AWESOME?!

VOTED UP AND PUNCHED ALL THE GOOD BUTTONS!


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rkhyclak 5 years ago from Ohio

Good job Frog, as always. It's pretty bad when you get a sick feeling in your gut when you think about what your president is hiding. Up & awesome.


Fay Paxton 5 years ago

You people are so sick.


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rkhyclak 5 years ago from Ohio

Why, Fay? Because we want more from our leader and government besides toothy grins, pretty words, un-kept promises and handouts? Because we want to know the TRUTH? Because we're not complacent and blinded enough to just sit back and let Obama and Washington do whatever the heck they please regardless of what written law states? Because we want our Constitution upheld? If that makes me-and the rest of us- sick, I'll be happy to never "get better."


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Homerun, up, useful, and awesome Frog.

I said in my piece "Donald Trumps Obama," the old guard republicans who critisize and belittle Trump for the birther issue are getting ready to uderstand the difference between Tripple A and the Major League. They're used to the forty mile an hour curve balls. Now they're going to have to deal with the ninety five mile an hour fast ball sinker. Trump won't play on Washington's playing field. They'll find themselves playing on his.

Now the question. Is it better to nail Obama, or plague him with doubt? I don't know. On one hand justice should be served, but on the other hand, it gives everyone a black eye, as opposed to a black guy, (I couldn't resist that, I'm sorry.) by nailing him now. Second; Now we find ourselves with a used car salesman suffering from sleep deprivation as our President.. As much fun as it would be to bounce this little two bit con man, we might serve ourselves better by putting our "Big Gun" back in the box, and using it for the knockout blow in the election.

I'm curious as to how you and others feel about this Frog.

jim


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Fay - Does the truth hurt? Did he suck you in like so many others. Every word in that video was true, except for the part at the very beginning when Obama spoke those words and at the end when he uttered them again.

"THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE THE TRUTH ARE PEOPLE WITH SOMETHING TO HIDE."


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

The way I look at it, we need to deal with this right now. To know about it and let it go is being part of the problem. Any action that needs to be taken will not happen overnight, this needs to get started ASAP. Just my opinion.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

jim - There's enough out there to hammer the guy out of office. If a precedent is set with him, then what the heck are we doing in this nation. Even if it would mean having to put up with Biden for a while, it would be worth stopping the destruction we see to our nation.

I'm just waiting for my 2 Senators to answer me. If they take too long I will speak with them personally.

I have yet to hear a liberal explain to me why anyone would spend $2 million of his own money to seal things tighter than a tick on a dog.


MQ2 5 years ago from S. Carolina

I agree with you Frog... I'd rather hit him with our best shot (the truth) now and put up with Biden for a short while than allow this embarrassing poser and his "I've never been proud of my country until ....." wife to remain at the helm..

As far as I'm concerned whether he meets the qualifications for POTUS or not ... he is nothing more than an empty suit who has already dragged our country/economy into the ground so deep it will take years to find our way back..


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Frog,

I think I agree as I think about it. If we could bounce this dude now, it would all but guarantee us a win in November. Also, it wouldn't take much for Biden and other key dempcrats to turn on Obama. Hmmmm .. this might become fun.

jim


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rkhyclak 5 years ago from Ohio

I agree to stick it to him now-the truth needs to be out there! A little positive about a Biden presidency: he'll most likely sleep through the whole thing...


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

rkhyclak - Now I remember why I like you. He slept during the bosses grand budget/campaign speech. He could catch up on his sleep for about 18 months. He couldn't do more harm than Obama has already done. Write your Senators and send them the link to the video asking for a full explanation. The more the merrier.


tugbo200-5 5 years ago

Frog

one hell of a good job here,you be our

torch carrier.

Stu..did you get the e-mail

Peace


MQ2 5 years ago from S. Carolina

rkhyclak... sadly, your comment is not only hilarious, but true... when it comes to listening to Obama's speeches.. I guess ole Joe has heard it all before... may as well take a lil nap... LOL

ManWithNoPants.... oh you can believe it....at this point it wouldn't take much for Biden et al to turn on Obama ... for but the chance to be called POTUS for a day! I'm thinking there is no love lost between these two at all...


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Ms Dee 5 years ago from Texas, USA

Yep, his own past words add up to Obama not being a natural citizen. Your hub made me wonder two things: Maybe he wasn't slated for president at the time he co-authored R511 (seems he would have sought to avoid it), and maybe the ROC does not want to get into a constitutional crisis over this, so that's why they are not bringing this out as an issue? The truth always eventually comes out, so I would think it better now than later. Excellent, as always, FP!


Wittsend 5 years ago

We need to get him out NOW before he can do any more damage...Him and all his CZARS. The longer he stays the more damage to our country he CAN and WILL do! I don't know if I can send the video to my senators, but I can tell you who they are, if someone can send to them.....

Lindsey Graham and Jim DeMint of South Carolina.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Wittsend - They already got one from me.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Fay, do you care to elaborate? In what way are we "sick?"


Stu From VT 5 years ago

rkhyclak, great retort to nanny-Fay. Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

tugbo200-5,

No email yet. Can you send directly to stuengelman@comcast.net?

Stu


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

Fay - If you are perfectly OK with our President not being legally eligible to hold the office he holds, that makes us SICK? Are you certain you don't have this backwards?


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Frog,

I bet Lindsey is working feverishly on his ten page customized point-by-point response. :)

Stoo


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Old Poolman - maybe I should be proud to be sick. In fact, maybe we could start a BE SICK bumper sticker campaign. :)


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50 Caliber 5 years ago from Arizona

Frog did you burn 108 minutes on the vid featuring Soros and his underlings from the Clinton admin up until now? If so what you think if not you really should hit the first 20 min and the last 30 it has much to say, 50


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Yea Fay,

This arrogant two bit conman DOES make a true American sick. When he ran for office, he duely noted that this country was headed towards q cliff. He said he would unite this country and get us back on the road and away from the cliff. He's succeeded in tearing this country in half, and instead of getting us away from the cliff, he floored it. That's not the worst part of it. What's sickening, is how weak this turd really is. I'm the conservative who said afer he won, "Come on, he won the election, now let's give him a chance." Fay, you really struck a nerve here girl..

jim


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Dusty - Go up and hit the link you provided. First it tells me oops and lets me go somewhere else. When there I have scads to choose from. Can we possibly narrow this down a bit.


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

Stu - LOL - I love your bumper sticker idea.


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Far left isn't a political position, it's a religion. Blinders are standard issue for these folks. Obama could go on national Tv, and say, "I'm not an American, and I hate America," and the far left would still kiss his ass. All this coming from a guy (me) who, while haveing conservative values, thinks both sides have failed us.

jim


Stu From VT 5 years ago

TheManWithNoPants,

While it's true that "both sides have failed us," never forget that almost all GOP's are centrists, not conservatives. So don't give up hope. We just have to kick the RINO's out, and replace them with TPM patriots.

Stu


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Stu,

I didn't mean to sound like I've lost hope. I probably shouldn't assume that everyone reads my hubs. (laughing) No, my friend I started a little pollitical non profit that's pretty unique. It's called The Housefire Project. It's just a baby, but we're drawing a strong, excited membership base, and growning fast. I'm sick of most of the people on Capitol Hill, and completely sick of the way they do business. The BIG thing, is I have tremendous confidence in Americans. Politicans can't fix this mess, but Americans can. Check out our web site Stu. If it's a fit, sign up. We're not even taking donations yet. When our 501 C is in place I'll be hitting everybody up, but for right now, we're organizing and gathering strength. Here's the link .. http://housefireproject.com/

jim


proudlib 5 years ago

More lies, distortions, and paranoia.


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Another one throwing rocks from the bushes. Come on out from behind the bush. Tell us what everyone's missing on this. If you can debate this with intelligence, good manners, and civility, do so. I would expect anyone in this comments section to treat you with the same manners.

jim


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rkhyclak 5 years ago from Ohio

Shew, Jim, you beat me to it! I just had one, who is at least a registered member of HP, inform me that my hub about Obama forgetting Easter was inaccurate...something about NJ weather? Oh the babble...


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

(laughing) Really avid debaters huh!


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Judah's Daughter 5 years ago from Roseville, CA

You know, I have to agree with TheManWithNoPants, when he stated, "Obama could go on national Tv, and say, "I'm not an American, and I hate America," and the far left would still kiss his a**." If the information contained in the video is factual, what really will be done about it? Do we still have American heros? Has the Constitution gone from being written in ink to pencil? Imagine ~ if Obama is found to be an illegitmate President, everything he's signed into law is null and VOID. Rather than erase the Constitution, let's ERASE the threat to it!


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago

Very interesting article. I do have my doubts, though I have not officially joined the "Birther" camp. You've got me thinking . . .


Ghost32 5 years ago

I've never figured OzBama was born in the U.S., but neither did I figured anyone on our side had what it took to beat the coverup machine--until Trump stepped in. You go, Donald.

No true political animal from either side of the aisle wants Obama outed at this point...because that would make them look ever so foolish for not standing up to the coverup in the first place. Even worse, it might cost a few of them a reelection seat.

I did a bit of pondering this evening and came to the conclusion that the next ten years are every bit as important to the future of the United States of America as were the 1770's. Truly (as the ancient Chinese curse goes) we live in interesting times.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

jim and rkhyclak - Actually proudlib is a member. He has made a comment about us being a racist on another Hub of mine and also on Stu's Hub.

You can find the member here: http://hubpages.com/profile/proudlib. Joined aout a day ago. The troll first appearance popped up here toward the bottom: http://hubpages.com/politics/You-Gotta-Love-This-G

Judah's Daughter - Every word in the video has been verified. You can read the actual SR 511 by Googling it and he gave the other references including Obama's own website. It's all right there for anyone to see.

James - I'm not what I consider to be a birther but I want to know what the man is hiding. I think it runs very, very deep.

Ghost - I strongly agree with your last paragraph about the next 10 years.

The Frog


tugbo200-5 5 years ago

The association with Rev Wright

should of been an eye opener right

from the git-go


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

tugbo - He threw Wright under the bus right away. Last night I got to thinking about THE BOOGIE MAN. I couldn't help myself so I wrote today's HUB. Check it out when you get a minute or two.

http://hubpages.com/politics/There-Is-No-Boogie-Ma

The Frog


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Jim,

You say on your web site you want to "to build an organization of six million plus members with a billion dollar bank account." Americans for Prosperity, the largest conservative group in the country, only has about a quarter of that membership, and their foundation pulls in about $10 million per year in revenue.

Do you think you're shooting too high?

Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

proudlib,

"More lies, distortions, and paranoia."

Would you please supply DETAILS? The burden of proof bears on the accuser (remember that tidbit?).

Stu


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Pollyannalana 5 years ago from US

Thank you for pointing me in this direction, this is very good and I will do what I can with it or send to whoever will accept it but I am tired of fighting with anti-Christs and don't plan to anymore. They can see the mess America is in but won't admit it, illegal is OK and I personally don't want any blessing from satan's workers. It is my hope that He will take His out of the way before sending His wrath on satan and his followers. They think Gay is OK, sin is OK, all religions are right and we all get a new bicycle.


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Pollyannalana 5 years ago from US

I am not speaking about you personally Frog not really knowing you, many of my comments get cut short and I wanted to say that and did but it got cut off.


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proudlib 5 years ago

Lie #1: "Obama has not produced a birth cetificate." Truth: The Certificate of Live Birth is proof of birth. See the bottom of the document: "This copy is prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

Lie #2: "Obama has spent $2 million to hide the truth of his birth." Truth: Lawyers for the President have had to respond "frivolous" (says one Judge.) lawsuits by the likes of Orly Taitz.

Lie #3: "Obama's grandmother says he was born in Kenya." Truth: In a right-winger's "interview" on the phone with an interpreter, there was momentary confusion by his step-grandmother that was immediately corrected. She said,"He was born in Hawaii."

Lie #4: "John McCain's citizenship was challenged in 2008, though the citizenship of Obama was given a free pass." Truth: Obama sponsered S.R. 511 to clarify the fact that John McCain was a citizen and eligible to run for POTUS.

Distortion #1: "Obama had his college records sealed." Truth: All of my college records are available only to those I give them to. My college will not release my records to anyone but me. besides, don't tell me that there are no Obama enemies who can hack into college records. If there was anything there, we would know about it. also, some of his classmates have told about his attendance there and he has admitted that he did drugs at that time but changed his ways. His attendance at Columbia and cum laude graduation from Harvard Law are not in dispute. Neither is the fact that he was the first African American editor of the Law Review.

Paranoia/fear-mongering: Do we have a usurper sitting in the seat that a qualified POTUS should occupy? If so, and this is my theory only, we will have the greatest constitutional crisis this nation has ever seen.

Did someone say I was hiding in the bushes? What does that mean? What did I say that was uncivil?


Stu From VT 5 years ago

proudlib,

Obama has NEVER released a certified long form BC from any US hospital. Without one, we can't know Obama's precise date of birth, and hence what body of law was applicable at the time to "natural born" status for children of a single American parent.

You may be right that much of the money spent on sealing his academic and birth records were to blunt lawsuits, but so what? The point is that he spent the money to hide his bona fides. Why? What is he hiding?

If Obama was in fact born in Hawaii, and he is just a few years older than he claims, then he is ineligible to be POTUS (Hawaii was a territory, not a state, just a few years before Obama's claimed date of birth).

You are right that proving Obama ineligible WOULD be a constitutional crisis, but continuing to perpetrate the alleged lie is a bigger one. Every day in office just means more laws and EO's that may have to be vacated later.

BTW, what would your opinion be if Jim DeMint were president, and he sealed all his academic and birth records? Would your view be any different?

Stu


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50 Caliber 5 years ago from Arizona

Frog, just pick one from the left column I used the top one and it played fine. Definitely a worth watching. You are like me, been paying attention, this vid. starts in the Clinton years and ends in the obama administration. watch the first 20 min. then the last 20 minutes and you'll get the Soros involvement in this clinton, bush, obama ponzi scheme and folks who should be in prison are and have been advisers, cabinet members now czars LOL.

http://www.movie2k.to/Inside-Job-watch-movie-52556

50


tugbo200-5 5 years ago

50

Tried again,still nothing,clicked on top left

it said I won an I-pod Lol

All movies listed are less then 15 minutes


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50 Caliber 5 years ago from Arizona

tugbo, I hit it and it's messed up, go to:

http://www.movie2k.to/ and type "job" in the search.

a list will come up hit "inside job" not the french but the one above and it will show a list of people sharing it and just choose the first one.

that should get you there, it's worth watching how we got our asses sold out and no one even realized it was going on,

50


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GusTheRedneck 5 years ago from USA

Howdy Gang - My own opinion is that Mr. Trump is perhaps Obama's biggest fan. It is doubtful that Trump will gain the Republican nomination for president. When he does not, if he runs as an independent candidate, he will strip many conservative and independent voter votes away from the Republicans to insure that Obama wins another 4 years. Think about it.

Gus :-)))


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proudlib 5 years ago

Again:

Truth: The Certificate of Live Birth is proof of birth. See the bottom of the document: "This copy is prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

Stu

"If Obama was in fact born in Hawaii, and he is just a few years older than he claims, then he is ineligible to be POTUS (Hawaii was a territory, not a state, just a few years before Obama's claimed date of birth)."

What??!! So even if you admit he was born in Hawaii, it is possible that "they" changed his date of birth by at least three years because he was born before Hawaii was a state?

BTW, I never said "that proving Obama ineligible WOULD be a constitutional crisis." That is just part of the whole birther nonsense.

As for Jim DeMint, I couldn't care less, because he never will be president and foolish hypotheticals add nothing to any debate.

First you say he doesn't have a birth certificate. He shows you one and you say it must be the "long form." Now some of you are saying the law should make him show a baptismal or circumcision certificate. Nothing would make you accept him as the freely and legally elected leader of our country. And there is nothing that he has done that is unconstitutional, illegal, anti-American, Marxist, fascist, dictatorial. He has actually continued most of the Bush policies when it comes to homeland security, increased our involvement in Afghanistan, allowed more oil drilling leases, met Republicans more than half way on many issues, and decreased taxes on every American. The stock market is at the level it was before the crash, corporations are making record profits and giving record bonuses, the car companies are thriving, and most of the bail-out money has been repaid. It is exasperating that you continue your "demonizing" of the president and remain unwilling to acknowledge the truth about so many things. Your anger and fanaticism is disturbing.


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b. Malin 5 years ago

Getts Everyone into Thinking Froggy... and that's what it's really all about!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Gus - I sure hope Trump isn't stupid enough to do that. It could kill us in 2012. Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

proudlib - Listen carefully. Donald Trump put out something similar to what Obama put on Fightthesmears.com. It's a photo shopped copy that anyone can make. It's still there today as testament to his being born, and only that. I can produce the same document in about less than 30 minutes. It's so easy even a 5th grader can do it. Maybe you haven't mastered that skill level yet.

If you continue to go off topic proudlib, then I will cause anything you write not to be read. The video was very specific. Refute the video if you can. The fact is you can't. It's been fact checked thoroughly. So have another sip of koolaid and let adults discuss the issues here.

I only issue one warning to stay on topic. After that, I consider you an internet troll and deal with you accordingly. Understand?


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Polly - I wasn't worried about you thinking about me. I value your comments and insight. Thanks. Satan might not hold a candle to Obama.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

proudlib,

Your comments are completely deflective. The Hawaii issue is important, as having no official BC means that the date of birth could automatically disqualify him. The Birther issue isn't the crisis; the crisis is in not resolving it, or proving Obama hoodwinked us. The former is a bigger crisis than the latter, because it means the alleged crime is continuing. The Jim DeMint question, while hypothetical, is cogent; what I'm trying to get at is whether or not you are judging this issue fairly.

Obama has NEVER produced any REAL BC. At best, he's produced a short form you can buy in Hawaii by simply providing the details yourself and then the hospital types it up. There is no attestation by any doctor.

Virtually EVERYTHING Obama has done is "unconstitutional, illegal, anti-American, Marxist, fascist, and dictatorial." I would prove it to you in detail, but I think you'd brush it off.

Stu


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gitrdun4444 5 years ago from North Carolina

"AWESOME FROG!" Love it


Stu From VT 5 years ago

proudlib,

My details re "unconstitutional, illegal, anti-American, Marxist, fascist, and dictatorial":

(1) Governor's Conference EO - violates posse comitatus.

(2) Federal HC Act - violates the 10th Amendment and Senate cloture rules.

(3) AG Firearm Restriction Proposal - violates 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments.

(4) Disclose Bill - Violates First Amendment.

(5) Interpol FOIA Exemption - Violates 6th Amendment.

(6) NATO World Police Force Plan - violates posse comitatus.

(7) Disclosure of Political Spending By Government Contractors EO - Violates 1st Amendment.

(8) BATFE Shotgun Restriction Proposal - Violates 2nd Amendment.

(9) Homosexual Classrooms Bill - Violates 10th Amendment.

(10) Cap and Trade - Violates 10th Amendment.

Shall I go on?

Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

proudlib,

Adding troops to Afghanistan was dumb. We should just get out. The town-by-town fighting strategy will have us there forever. The area the Taliban is hiding in is vast and mountainous; it's too big to carpet bomb, and they are too dug in for smart bombs. The only way to kill them is with tactical nukes, and we can't do that due to collatoral damage.

Don't get all slobbery about Somolian pirates. Obama authorized the use of force, but has implemented almost nothing.

The "first responder" thing is window dressing. It just protects them against civil lawsuits if they make a mistake in good faith and someone is harmed. In actual practice, people sue the employer (police force, fire department, etc.), not the employee.

Lowering taxes on the middle class my derriere. Wait till you see ObieCare premiums/taxes kick in, IRA/401(K) plans lose part of their current tax shelter protection, and oil prices more than double if Cap and Trade is passed. The cost of living for the middle class is going to go UP.

Increasing the number of oil leases granted? Are you kidding? He may have slightly increased them from his low point, but the reality is that the US is awash in oil and gas reserves, both onshore and offshore, and we are still getting 70% of our energy resources from overseas because almost no permits are being issued. This is intentional. Obama WANTS oil prices to spike so green alternatives become competitive in relative terms, even though they will cost alot more than fossil fuels even at today's high costs for the latter. Obama cares more about his "green cred" with his tree hugging voting base than he does about the economy.

The tax breaks for small businesses are a mirage. Thanks to tax breaks that have been in effect since the 2008 stimulus package, small businesses can write off up to $250,000 in capital investments in a single year, through the end of 2010. If the Small Business Jobs Act manages to pass, that benefit would be extended through 2011 and the maximum would double to $500,000. Given that, Obama's newest proposals would really only change the game for big spenders.

The increased benefits for veterans may be the real deal, assuming all goes according to Hoyle (i.e., the new money is well spent). Obama may have done right here.

The "Helping Heroes Keep Their Homes Act" has a good intent, but it may violate common law applicable to contracts. This may have to tested in court.

Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - Evidently proudlib didn't want to heed the warning of the author of the article. Seems I read something about "threats." I don't threaten anyone in my capacity of being the moderator of my own articles. But, as many people know, I do issue warnings.

So you can kiss proudlib bye-bye like another member who wanted to persist.


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mslizzee 5 years ago from Buncombe County, NC

This is amazing. I can't believe I've not seen it before. The only problem is, even if Obama is not a citizen and is not qualified to be president, we don't have anyone in Congress that has the . . . .to do anything about it. The man should be impeached if he deliberately took office knowing he was not qualified, but it won't happen, in fact he will probably spend a billion dollars and get re elected.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

mslizzee - This was just recently released. But maybe it is fitting to share this outrage with people you know. I am!


tugbo200-5 5 years ago

As of this morning,CNN has announced the original

Obama birth certificate has been released (long Form)

Imagine that, but Trump is still pressuring the school

records


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Pollyannalana 5 years ago from US

Why not? I want to know if any friends or teachers remember him, surely someone remembers him??? Why has not one come forward?


Stu From VT 5 years ago

FP - I had a feeling that action was coming. Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

tugbo200-5,

Just heard about that. My standards are going to be sky-high: carbon dating, footprint matching, certified affadavit of authenticity from hospital, etc. Even with all the preceding, the document can be faked. Carbon dating the ink may be the best test (anyone can get old paper).

Stu


tugbo200-5 5 years ago

Stu

I agree

The White House expects there will be non-believers who will still

call The BC fake,my guess this will go on for some time.

Wheres Frog ,I haven't heard his take on this.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

tugbo,

I found the BC on the net.

I'm not a forensics expert, but I think this is a fake. I downloaded the long form and viewed at high zoom in Photoshop.

Most of the print has a white haze around it, mainly at a down-left direction, and almost always about 2 pixels wide. If ink bleed effects would cause the background to fade, why wouldn't it go in all directions equally?

Further, the registrar's stamp and date/time shows the white haze, even though the attestation is dated 4/25/11. The haze width is about one pixel, after two days, even though 50 years of the original printing in general only shows a two pixel haze. I would suspect the haze width difference to be much greater. Oddly, the haze inside two of the numerals in the year of attestation fills the entire space, meaning that the haze is progressing at extremely different rates at different portions of the date, even though the date was printed only two days ago.

In addition, many of the haze areas have a perfectly rectangular shape, especially at the corners. Why not rounded or randomly shaped as around the edges of some of the type?

The only way to resolve this is to get the original (the form released is a certified copy). The ink (typing and handwriting) used in the portion other than the registrar's attestation would need to be carbon dated to 1961 (Obama's birth year).

Stu


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GusTheRedneck 5 years ago from USA

Howdy Froggie and Hubber Friends - I had fun today reading all of the "analyses" of the newly released image of Obama's birth certificate long form thingie. The document was unremarkable of itself, but the copious commentary was spectacular. Everyone has a different version of their own expertise in analyzing the thing. It was just grand to read all of the stuff that the folks had to offer about their study of the "document" and of their own ability to tell if it were real or fake.

Lots of them commented that the paper did not look like it had undergone 50 years of aging. Some pointed out that there was haze around letters, or that this letter did not match that letter, or that the signatures looked to be of the same pen, and so on. There was one comment that hit the mark very squarely. Someone pointed out that the word "THE" in the final rubber stamp was misspelled. And so it was. It was spelled "TXE." So what? It was stamped that way just the other day - not 50 years ago. How big of a "so what" is required?

Anyway, gang, we are going to be swatting this authenticity deal back and forth through the next ten succeeding generations.

It is more important to get on this administration's back about what they are actually doing and not doing, both of which are bad for you, for me, and for the country and the world. Plan on 2012 and get it done.

Gus :-)))


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

People think I'm a birther which is ridiculous. I don't care if Obama was born in Timbuktu. What Obama is hiding can be found in his academic records. The BC issue is a smoke screen. Those academic records, if my thinking is correct which is usually the case, they will reveal that Obama claimed to be a foreign citizen in order to defraud the United States of America. The proof is in the pudding and the BC isn't the pudding.


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GusTheRedneck 5 years ago from USA

Froggie - I would say, "Exactly," but, like Mr. Popeil used to tell us as he was peddling something to us on TV, "Wait, there is more."

Gus :-)))


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Frog,

Are you saying you think Obama is really a natural born US citizen, but falsely claimed otherwise to get student aid from US sources not available to Americans? I'm a little confused as to what you are saying.

Thanks, Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Gus,

I think when everything is checked out, we're going to find that Obama got the BC from Popeil.

Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - If he is, in fact, a natural born citizen, that is exactly what I am saying and have said many time since this all started.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog,

I'm still betting he's not a natural born citizen. You may have seen my comments above about my review of the document in Photoshop. I think it's a fake.

At present, all we have is a certified copy of the BC, not the original, unless he released that too. The key thing is carbon dating the ink on the paper. The hospital might have been easily able to grab one of the old forms, but the critical thing is to prove that the ink on the form is about 50 years old.

But then, another question comes up. Let's say the ink really is 50 years old. There are a number of stories on the internet about single American parent "natural born status" law at the time of Obama's stated date of birth. I don't know if these stories are accurate, but they say one of the necessary tests is that the American parent must have resided continuously in the US for a period of at least five years starting on or following age 16 up to the child's birth date. The BC indicates the mother was 18 when Obama was born. She would have to be at least 21 when Obama was born to confer natural born status under this test.

Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - Here's what an imaging expert has produced regarding the document. This is my newest Hub.

http://hubpages.com/politics/Let-The-Experts-Decid


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog,

Will go to Hub and comment there.

Stu


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GusTheRedneck 5 years ago from USA

Hi Froggie (once again...) I find it interesting, too, that so many who doubt the authenticity of Obama's various images of documents and the like, keep on with the strange idea that these are images of "old" documents. They are none of them "old" documents. In fact, the one shwon with your article here was produced on April 25, 2011. It is a new image, not an old one. Somebody might tell that to "Stu." (That does not mean tht the image is of something authentic. It may be or it may not be.)

Gus :-)))


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Gus - The recently released long form has a distinctly different background pattern in the interior vs. the boundary. I downloaded it from the WH web site, loaded it into Photoshop, and looked at it at high zoom. You can't tell the difference with the naked eye, but at high magnification you can easily see that the interior portion with the data was Photoshopped into what was probably an official 1960's era background. In another post Frog put up, a forensic expert noted the same point in a YouTube video Frog embedded on the Hub. The long form BC is a fake.

Stu

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