Tutor Scam on CRAIGSLIST .com-- my tutoring ad attracted scammers of the truth seeking profit, destroying trust

Daughter caught in scam

My bright daughter has uncovered a scam that keeps getting stranger and stranger as I research it online. She plans to attend graduate school for secondary education in the fall and so is looking for part time work. Naturally, she turned to CRAIGSLIST to peruse the ads. Why not?

She found one that excited her- someone from England wanted a tutor for his 14 year old boy who happened to be visiting the area for the month of June. The boy needed tutoring in a variety of subjects including French, which is her major. She responded with her resume (oh dear Lord) and was delighted when she was contacted for more information by the gentleman claiming to be father of this boy.

She wrote asking for the son's email so that she could find out what level French he spoke and get to know the boy before she met him at the Denver library. The man didn't know his son well and couldn't respond. Also, his English responses were scattered with inappropriate words as if selected from a dictionary.

She looked up scams online and sure enough, she was in the throes of being duped. The man stopped contacting her and she moved on, sad about losing $600 but relieved she was no longer communicating with this person.

(Thanks fish for correcting the spelling of CRAIGSLIST for me.)

Check arrives via UPS

This morning after my daughter left to tutor a legitimate person for the more reasonable rate of $25, she received a UPS delivery from a man living in Knoxville, TN. She knows no one with this name who would be sending her money, as far as I am aware.

I got this tense feeling in my heart and as the envelope was not sealed, I opened it. Inside was a check made out to her for $3,350.71 from Regions Bank. What a weird number.

My heart leaped to my throat. Here was the check. The man had not forgotten her. She was still part of this scam.

I called to tell her the bad news. I could see her eyes roll in exasperation. The check was not drawn on the account of the man with whom she corresponded, his name is Jay Lundery. 

But it was the amount. Strange amount.

She said she had received an email from this Lundery person and had forwarded it to me but I had not opened that email account this morning.  I checked it out.

The Email

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Jay Lundery <lundery010@gmail.com>
To: Yes, to my daughter UGH
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:27:30 AM
Subject: Re: Summer Tutor Needed!

Good morning,

How are you doing? I got your email and I am Ok with all. I want you to know that the payment for the tutoring has been mailed out to you and your should be getting it this morning via UPS courier service so please be sure to receive it or ba around to pick it up. here is the tracking number for the package 1Z5E21390199416221.

Please when you get it today, take it your bank and have it cashed and after that deduct your charges for the tutoring and send the balance to the Nanny via western union as earlier discussed so she can get the money immediately and have come down with my son.I wouldn't want this to exceed this week as the tutoring classes should start on monday..I will be looking forward to reading from you.

Regards,

Jay Lundery.

Words of Wisdom from Reader

As Dave the Math Tutor wrote in the comments section, "It's pretty annoying, but the good part about these scams is that they're easy to avoid by following one simple rule: DO NOT AGREE TO ANY ARRANGEMENT THAT REQUIRES YOU TO FORWARD A PAYMENT ON TO A THIRD PARTY."

Regions Bank

I googled Regions Bank for a phone number to alert them that this was going on at their bank. I got a very strange sensation listening to their recording and began to google for information on the bank itself. There are citation after citation regarding fraud and Regions Bank, including a case that went to court.

Check drawn on an innocent man's account

I wondered if this man in Knoxville who'd sent the check was another scam artist.  I googled his name.  Strange, he appeared to be a respectable business man from the area. 

I located an invitation to a party at his home and called the phone number listed.  I got a sweet voice on the answering machine-- his wife. She offered callers her business number so after leaving a somewhat disconcerted message, I called her office line.

I was routed to her cell phone and caught her with clients in the car as rain cascaded onto her roof. The connection was bad.  She groaned when I told her why I was calling. "You are the third person to call," she said.

That made me feel good, actually. Others were also following up on this. It wasn't only me. And she, obviously, was caught in the middle. "You need to call the FBI," she said.  "Don't send any money to the nanny."

"I wasn't planning on it," I said, a bit miffed that she might think I was not on top of this. "I'll send you a copy of my Hub," I said. "You can take it to your bank or wherever.  I will block out your husband's information from the check. He is obviously an innocent party."

Me call the FBI?  I know what the FBI will say. The same thing student loan officers say when I ask for information about my daughter's loan we are paying off. The same thing doctors say when I ask for information on my daughter's recent well check covered by our insurance. The same thing anyone in an official capacity says now that my daughter has achieved 18.

"Are you (daughter's name)?" No! "Well we need to talk to her."

"Are you (check writer's name)?" No! "Well, we need to talk to him."

"Are you (accused's name)?" No! "Well, we need to talk to him."

I am simply the powerless mother with the wicked keyboard.

What Now?

"Mom, I got a parking ticket!" my daughter informed me, at the end of the conversation. "For the same amount as I made!"

I sighed. "Oh honey, downtown you need to park in a lot."

"They are so expensive," she said. "Five bucks! And we only talked an extra 15 minutes after the session."

"Five bucks... twenty-five bucks," I said. "You decide."

Is this karma or what?

Follow Up

Many of you have wondered what to do if you actually did lose money. I had no response, BUT a reader posted an EXCELLENT comment below that outlines exactly what she did and it seems to be brilliant in my humble opinion. Please scroll down to the 218 comment by Chrystalline and she will fill you in on the process. Better yet, I will copy it here. Please click on her name and thank her for such an amazing response!

I love my readers!!!

From Chrystalline...

scamvictim, your bank should have a scan of the check itself, which they should be able to produce when law enforcement asks for it. Can't do anything about the envelope, I'm afraid.

Report it to the FBI:

http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/e-scams/e-scams

There's an image link on the right to file an electronic report; give them all the information you have. Realistically, I wouldn't expect to get your money back (I've never heard of scam victims getting their money back), but perhaps the FBI will be able to get the scammers (if they're even in US jurisdiction). They should get in touch with you to give you the next steps, if there's anything else for you to do.

About the money you now owe your bank, talk to the bank about the scam. Every bank has a fraud department, and they should be able to talk to you about what options are available to you as a victim. If nothing else, they should be able to work out some form of loan/payment schedule that will allow you to fix your credit with them. There might be some form of protection for you, but I can't know what your bank has.

It wouldn't hurt to contact the credit reporting agencies and ask them to temporarily flag your account. You only have to request it at one, and they will notify the other two: Equifax.com, Experian.com, and Transunion.com This will alert them to contact you if someone tries to open new accounts using your personal information.

A note about credit reports - by law, each agency is required to allow you one free report per year. If you space them out, you never need to pay for a report (ie, get one every four months by using the next company in the list so that by the time you come back around to the first company, it's been a whole year). Sites that hype your free credit reports are trying to hook you into paying them for some kind of monitoring service.

It is highly unlikely that you will be accosted at home; they only want your personal information for financial purposes (sending you the check, and possibly identity theft). They're usually either money laundering or simply stealing. Granted, that's not encouraging, but you shouldn't be afraid they'll show up at your door to take you away.

I fell for this back in 2006 when it was the "Be the check handler in the US for our business" variation. I asked for a copy of their catalog to prove they were the actual business they claimed to be, because it sounded too good to be true, and since they ignored that request, I cut them off before sending them any money. Since I hadn't lost anything, I never heard back from the FBI (other than the automated message from the complaint filing), but it was shortly after that when Craigslist started posting warnings.

How to know your identity has been stolen?

When you have shared information with a scammer

Many who have experienced this scam have shared their experiences in the comment section below, which is so helpful!

Sharing stories helps fellow victims understand they are not alone and they are not stupid!!!

I update the site as new scammers are revealed and expand the site when concerns and ideas offer information helpful to those who have experienced this demeaning scam.

I know these victims are intelligent folk. I appreciate their willingness to share what they often view as a personal failure- as if trust is something shameful.

When a victim shares, it often inspires me to add content to the site. For example, one young person worried about identity theft. This is a very real concern, considering these victims have sent resumes and personal information to people intending to hurt them.

I researched what steps to take if one believes his/her identity has been stolen. The most thorough site I found is referenced to the right of this section. If you fear identity theft, please click on the link and take the steps recommended. It is certainly possible that your identity has been compromised and the smart thing to do is to take action!!!

I know you are beautiful, but do NOT send your photo

olderandwiser received a request for a photo, when answering a recent tutor scam ad and was wisely concerned.

The Facebook Identity Theft protection page-http://bestidentityprotection.net/facebook-identity-theft-scams-are-on-the-rise/ reminds us to "Use a photo of yourself taken from a larger photo with a natural landscape. Never use a passport photo on Facebook. Have a big smile on your face, as well. Since passport photos don’t allow smiles, it will keep thieves from using your photo to create a fake ID."

Who receives these fake ids? One use may surprise you:

Here, fake IDs were sent to underage college students! http://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2011/07/22/fake-id-orders-expose-students-to-identity-theft-criminal-penalties/

How easy is it to get a fake ID? Peruse this site on Identity Theft:
http://www.identity-theft-help.us/how.easy.is.it.to.get.fake.id.htm

Get back in the Game!

© 2009 Barbara

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Storytellersrus 7 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

Dear Elena,  did I misunderstand you or are you saying that articles like mine hurt legitimate businesses, as in: "The thing is, if these scams start hitting the wires through articles like yours, the one thing that will be negatively impacted are the genuine businesses and honest people at Craigslist."

I hope you are not saying it is a bad idea to share our experiences when we are scammed.  I believe in warning others when I experience scams and also believe that when people are alert and don't support these scams, legitimate businesses benefit.

These scams are not new to CRAIGSLIST and it has grown despite the negative impact.  The first Tutor Scam in my list of links was from 2005, I think.  To me, it is imperative that people are aware of online scams. Particularly young people- the lovely young woman from St. Olaf College who was murdered a few years back answered a Nanny ad from Craigslist and the so called "employer" raped and murdered her when she went to her interview. http://www.dallasobserver.com/2009-04-30/news/crai...

I think Craigslist would provide a great service to its customers if it were to offer a rating or review site similar to what amazon offers so that people know which businesses are legitimate.  Customer beware is simply not enough.  People have always shared the good and the bad about companies.  It is a well known fact in marketing that the best advertising is word of mouth.  This works both directions.


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Elena. 7 years ago from Madrid

Hello, Story!  You missunderstood me --or better said, I didn't make myself clear at all, evidently!  What I meant is: Craigslist has been a good and genuine source of income to more than a few people, hence it's become well known, at which point it becomes a targer for internet scam.  I'm concerned that the "good" side of Craigslist gets impacted by the obviously very bad side of it.  I hope this clears up what i meant before?


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Storytellersrus 7 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

I am sorry if I wasn't clear, Victim!  Craig of Craigslist is very supportive.  They have a hands off policy but that doesn't mean he doesn't care.  See this site for more information on Craig and his compassion.  I think, as I said earlier, they could help others by hosting a rating site, though. http://www.dallasobserver.com/2009-04-30/news/crai...

If you want to post any additional information this is up to you. Thanks.


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Triplet Mom 7 years ago from West Coast

Storyteller - I am glad that you were able to avoid being scammed. It is awful that they are out there in full force. There are good tutoring jobs out there. If your daughter is still looking she should try online tutoring sites there are many to choose from that are legit. Tutor.com and Brainfuse to name two.


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Storytellersrus 7 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

At this point the best advice is to send me the contact name so I can tag it for others AND STOP ALL COMMUNICATION- especially don't send money!

If anyone has had a good response from local FBI or police, please give azlizzie better advice, please. In my daughter's experience, because she didn't lose money, she was not important.


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Steve R McDowell 7 years ago from Atlanta

It's the typical "I send a bad/stolen check for more than I claim I owe you, then you send me the difference back" scenario. It's obvious what happens if it's a stolen check, but if it's a bad check, people don't always understand what happens. If it's a bad check and it bounces, you are responsible for the money you got from that bad check even if you've already withdrawn it and sent it off somewhere else.

Scams are dangerous. Everybody needs to be careful when dealing with any exchange of money online.

Good hub ^_^


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Patty Inglish, MS 7 years ago from North America

Quarterly, I receive emails with a similar scam - Different persons want me to give private marital arts lessons to youth that will be in my are for 3 or 6 months... What they really want is for me to write a letter to their govts and our embassies in their countries to present a legitimate reason (sponsorship) for them to get an entrance visa to the USA. That's why I don't post my picture or birthday on the Internet - they were used, unsuccessfully, to attempt to forge a sponsorship document once.


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Patty Inglish, MS 7 years ago from North America

Stoytellarsareus - From my experience, scammers like to steal headshots that in which the features are clear and attempt to do everything online so the authorities never see their own face.


Liga718 6 years ago

PS: Not sure if anyone already said this, but the Internet Crime Complaint Center (http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx) is recommended on Craigslist as a place to report scams - might be a good place to start. Having the check they sent you and all related emails should get you somewhere.


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Jacqui_S 6 years ago from Sulphur Springs, TX

I wish I had found this 2 weeks ago. I got scammed over high end antique furniture, not only on Craigslist but also on Kijiji. I, unfortunately didn't have enough sense to figure it out until it was too late. My question is this...when you present these fraudulant checks to your bank and request that they call the issuing bank to verify funds and validity and they do. Then the checks are returned as fraudulant. You then call the issuing bank and the people that the accounts belong to and they are fully aware that there are MULTIPLE checks in amounts totalling TENS of THOUSANDS of dollars in fraud circulating on their accounts. Why didn't they mention this information during the first phone call from my bank? Why are the accounts still open? Why won't the FBI assist? WHY DO I HAVE TO TAKE A LOAN, although offered by my bank at zero interest, to make these checks good? Are the large banks, such as JP Morgan Chase in NY in on these frauds??? Where is my justice to be found? I can guarantee this won't happen to me again, but I am paying dearly for my ignorance and stupidity.


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ndahse 6 years ago from USA

Craig's List is not the only place one might pick up a scam of this nature. I was looking for a JV opportunity for a work from home opportunity and posted my information on a site that promised to connect me to angel investors and joint venture opportunities.

Its a a good opportunity and I guess scammers are willing to take on anybody. I got a $68,000 cashier's check in the mail. There was nothing to explain what they wanted for the money, just a note that gave contact information and advised me not to try to cash the check until it was 'activated'. i called right away. (I shudder to think that somewhere these jerks have my information).

I was to wait until they 'activated' the check, deposit it or cash it and send the bulk of the money to an address they would provide when I had the cash in hand.

I took it to the bank where cooler heads prevailed and was told that they hold the proceeds from all suspicious checks until the funds are received from the bank the check is drawn on. It took two weeks and cost me $85 dollars to find that the check had been stolen from a reputable company and the funds were not only not coming to me but the case was referred to the FBI. I got a form to fill out and many thanks for being honest but, nobody actually did anything.

If you get an email from Nigeria, just toss it. Your relatives did not leave you millions of dollars to 'keep out of the hands of the current regime'. It is a scam.

Thank you for telling someone about the Craig's List scams ... they recommend that you work for people you know and try to stay local to avoid scams.

As to Chauffeur Service I think they might be asking if its a good idea to use the same set of numbers for a webboard and a bank account. If I'm right, the answer is no it is not safe.


Tutor-Guy 6 years ago

Yes, Nigerian Scams at Craigslist are annoying and dangerous. Working for www.tutorz.com I've met many people who fall pray to these scams on Craigslist. On our site we screen all tutoring requests and forward only those which are safe and genuine.


Teresa C 6 years ago

In October 2009 I purchased a legitimate tutoring franchise named Tutor Doctor. What is sad, is last week I received the same exact email initiated from the UK.

Your blog assisted me in not pursuing this client further so I want to 'Thank You'.

Also, I also want to ensure the readers of this blog that Tutor Doctor is a legitimate tutoring firm in the USA, Canada and England. We just do not hyphenate our name. You are more than welcome to visit my NJ website at www.newjerseytutordoctor.com or the corporate website at www.tutordoctor.com


not sure? 6 years ago

I am just wondering, I've been contacted many times like this before, for many kinds of jobs--babysitting, cleaning, tutoring, etc. They would be asking for my contact information, addresses and what not, so they can send me checks in advance to see how serious they are, etc.

But what I've read on craigslist is that these are fake checks and they make you cash them and give them the money but when it fails to clear, you are held responsible for it. Some even end up in jail!

Maybe I shouldn't have posted an ad on craigslist looking for some extra jobs (need money for college). 'Cause now many people are contacting me and I'm not sure which ones are real and which ones aren't.. Can you help me with it? How can I tell if the offers are real?

Thanks! Have a wonderful day!


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Storytellersrus 6 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

I think it is important to use common sense. Always meet these people in a public place. If you are tutoring, set up your meetings in a library or a coffee shop where you can have privacy but also can call for help, should the person prove deceitful.

Ask for references, but don't rely on them either. Who knows who the person is offering the recommendation?

If it sounds too good, it probably is.

Don't take checks, ask to be paid in cash. Don't pick up a stranger or meet a potential client at a job location until you have completely checked out the situation and know beyond a doubt that it is safe. Don't enter a building including a home with anyone.

Remember the Berenstein Bear Stranger Danger warnings!!!

Sometimes in the pursuit of money, we unconsciously set ourselves up and become very vulnerable. Keep your head!


pg 6 years ago

I am a piano teacher. At least 3 times a year I get a similar e-mail stating a parent want to send a child for 3 months lessons, and pay in advance. Without knowledge of this person and without a referral, it is obvious a scam. Also, as stated before, illiterate writing is a red flag. Our Music Teachers' Association has also put out a warning about this type of Scam. After someone cashes a check, and then refunds part of the money, the bank finds out the check is not good and the teacher is responsible for the money. I don't think Craigslist is any more a vulnerable source for scam artists than anywhere one can locate you on the internet. Just be careful out there!


Christina T. 6 years ago

I've been receiving emails from the same email that Natalie mentioned: mickysilver01@aol.com Only this time he/she was offering me "their house" to stay in free of rent while I handle some of their client's accounts. He/she also kept requesting my contact info. So far they only have my name and phone number. I refused to enclose my residential address because I wanted to do much more "research" on this person and their "too good to be true offer." I am relieved now that I typed in their email address and came across Natalie's story relating to the same scam artist I was just dealing with. So sad and it makes me angry, but it was a lesson learned!


scamvictim:( 6 years ago

Hi storytellers....I was desperate for a tutoring job and unfortunately got scammed... I now owe $1250 to my bank.

How did you resolve the scam issue regarding your daughter? Could you kindly give me some advice? I'm just a grad student (like your daughter) and I do not have the funds to cover this! I still have all the correspondence between myself and the scammer.

I unfortunately don't have a copy of the check they mailed to me nor the envelope they mailed to me (I stupidly threw it out).

I also almost got caught up in another tutoring scam, but they have a picture of me (not a very good one since it isn't too representative of me...) and my current address and my full name. How could this harm me? I haven't given them any other pertinent information.

Any advice you can give would be terrific. Please! :) I'm really scared about even going outside for fear of getting kidnapped or something (too many movies).


Chrystalline 5 years ago

scamvictim, your bank should have a scan of the check itself, which they should be able to produce when law enforcement asks for it. Can't do anything about the envelope, I'm afraid.

Report it to the FBI:

http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/e-scams/e-scams

There's an image link on the right to file an electronic report; give them all the information you have. Realistically, I wouldn't expect to get your money back (I've never heard of scam victims getting their money back), but perhaps the FBI will be able to get the scammers (if they're even in US jurisdiction). They should get in touch with you to give you the next steps, if there's anything else for you to do.

About the money you now owe your bank, talk to the bank about the scam. Every bank has a fraud department, and they should be able to talk to you about what options are available to you as a victim. If nothing else, they should be able to work out some form of loan/payment schedule that will allow you to fix your credit with them. There might be some form of protection for you, but I can't know what your bank has.

It wouldn't hurt to contact the credit reporting agencies and ask them to temporarily flag your account. You only have to request it at one, and they will notify the other two: Equifax.com, Experian.com, and Transunion.com This will alert them to contact you if someone tries to open new accounts using your personal information.

A note about credit reports - by law, each agency is required to allow you one free report per year. If you space them out, you never need to pay for a report (ie, get one every four months by using the next company in the list so that by the time you come back around to the first company, it's been a whole year). Sites that hype your free credit reports are trying to hook you into paying them for some kind of monitoring service.

It is highly unlikely that you will be accosted at home; they only want your personal information for financial purposes (sending you the check, and possibly identity theft). They're usually either money laundering or simply stealing. Granted, that's not encouraging, but you shouldn't be afraid they'll show up at your door to take you away.

I fell for this back in 2006 when it was the "Be the check handler in the US for our business" variation. I asked for a copy of their catalog to prove they were the actual business they claimed to be, because it sounded too good to be true, and since they ignored that request, I cut them off before sending them any money. Since I hadn't lost anything, I never heard back from the FBI (other than the automated message from the complaint filing), but it was shortly after that when Craigslist started posting warnings about never responding to "jobs" that involve Western Union. Like everyone else, I felt pretty stupid to have sent as much information as I did, but I felt the need to offer what advice I can, based on what I've learned.


AlisonBrooklyn 5 years ago

My martial arts and fitness school received an email from the same address monicacynthia_lagaaaaaa@yahoo.com looking for classes for a boy (or maybe a girl) and offering to pay whatever we wanted to charge. I responded politely, but it "smelled bad" so I googled the email address and found your post. Thanks for verifying what I suspected. So these folks have now branched out into trying to scam fitness schools. Alison


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seanorjohn 5 years ago

It is amazing how many scammers are around.I am a home tutor and placed an ad in the local paper. next thing i am telephoned by a new local free magazine to be delivered to all the local supermarkets. This was exactly the type of advertising I needed. Foolishly I believed them because it was exactly what I wanted.They sent me a copy of the mag.No mags ever went to the supermarkets. Sure enough I lost over £100.


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Kosmo 5 years ago from California

I enjoy reading hubs about scams. In a way, scams are fascinating, what people will do to make money, etc. Your daughter got caught in the old "checking cashing" scam. About a year ago, I got involved with this guy on the Internet. He was supposed to send me a check that I could cash and keep ten per cent, and then send him the balance. I encouraged him to send me the check so I could photocopy it and include it in the hub I was planning to write. But, darn it, he never followed up. However, I have written a hub about my experience with the "reshipping scam." Check it out, if you like. Thanks for the story. Later!


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RandomThoughts... 5 years ago from Washington

I am so relieved on some level I am not the only one bamboozled by a deal to good to be true. I was looking for a house to rent on craigslist and found one in the neighborhood at a great deal. It was probably half or so what the rent would typically be. I responded to the ad, explaining my situation and that I was very interested in the house. The person was over seas, had to rent and it was up for sale, blah, blah, blah. I don't even remember but I gave them some info and then they wanted money wired to an account. I even went to see the house. I knew once they wanted money without any middle man, mail me the keys scenario, that something was terribly wrong. I looked up the house at the realtor's website and found it for sale with another name. I ended contact with them and called the reality agent that had the house. I left a message about the add. Anything over seas is an absolute warning sign.

Thanks for the hub. I appreciate all the info on the subject...Up/Useful


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Storytellersrus 5 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

Omgosh, RandomThoughts, good you checked this all out! Thank you for your story. I am amazed that these scams continue- they must work on some level or they wouldn't be so prolific! Thank you again! And good luck finding a house to rent.


olderandwiser38 5 years ago

I got a new one for you... joessf48@yahoo.com.

Full name is Joe Youssef. He is using craigslist to find a tutor for his fifth grade son.

This is the ad on craigslist:

Tutor Needed Asap (maine)

Date: 2011-07-21, 10:15PM EDT

Reply to: job-tnzqx-2506777901@craigslist.org

We need reliable, energetic, motivated, entusiastic person to

become Tutor to assist in Creating

euthusiasm in english for my son,Please send your resume if you have interest in teaching my son. Applicat show be 18 years above.

• Location: maine

• Compensation: $60/hr

• This is a part-time job.

PostingID: 2506777901

This is the email he sent me: (I enclosed it in quotes)

"Thanks for replying back to my online job posting, requiring the

tutorial service for my Son, I would like to make a tutoring

arrangement between you and my son starting 5th August 2011 and I

would like you to tutor him within a period of 7 weeks, on a schedule

basis of 4hr Daily, 4 times weekly.I am paying you the first week

teaching payment before she will be coming so that you can ensure you

are hired for this job and i am paying the weekly wages in advace with

$510. I would like to use these medium to inform you that my Son don't

live in the US if you could remember i mention that in my posting, he

would be flying from Japan to the US because i need to get him back

home because i fear for the disaster that are happening in Japan, I

want you to teach him English Langauge or (and) Mathematics for 5th

grader during this period of staying in the US, if there is need to

extend your services, an amendment would be made to your salary

depending on how good you are with him. The Local Library would be

your meeting place with him, he would be dropped off/picked up by his

nanny during the hours of teaching.

Payment Terms & Condition:

You would be receiving a Certified check from my financial in US,

since i am off to japan to pick him back to the US and making payments

from japan wont be honored in a bank in the US, These check would be

made out for the cost of the tutorial services you are rendering, and

also for the living expense, nanny fees for my

Son. Regarding this. I hope i can trust you with these payments, as

the payment would be made out in excess to cover the first week

payment for you and also for his nanny too, so all you have to do is

cash the payment when it get to you deduct your part for the services

and the remainder would be use to purchase moneypak reload pin from

walmart and further instructions would be given to you on what to do

with the moneypak reload pin you bought at walmart. The Nanny who

would be contacting you with futher arrangements and instructions

regarding pickup/drop off of my Son to the library where you would

always teach him. So hope i can trust you that you will teach my Son

good academics and some moral respects so that he can be good to

himself in the future and that he can be proud of you, i hope i can

count on you for the tutorial and the money to be sent to you.

I look forward to read a detailed message from you containing the

following information, if you are OK with my arrangements, terms and

condition.

FULL NAME:

MAILING ADDRESS (no P.O.Box please):

CITY:

STATE:

ZIP CODE:

CELL PHONE:

HOME PHONE:

GENDER:

PRESENT JOB STATUS/POSITION:

EMAIL:

Thanks for your Understanding.

Joe "

It is listed under July 21st, education jobs. Location is 'Maine'.

I sent him my resume a few days ago. I haven't heard back from him. I sent him a quick email last night that I do not accept the job. I'm guessing I'll get a check from him this week for at least $510. I'm going to report this like others on here have done. Hopefully he is caught and put out of business very soon.

I'm lucky I told a close friend about this job I applied for. She was very suspicious and researched it. She came up with this (HubPages) web site and sent it to me via email. After reading a few paragraphs I knew I had fallen for a scam.


olderandwiser38 5 years ago

Well, here we go again...I responded to a different ad for a tutor, this one was for a math tutor and I thought it was an ad from a tutoring service. So, I'm posting it here. Olderandwiser, again.

I will say upfront, before posting the ad and his message to me, that this guy 'Ben Brian' is asking for a photo in addition to the typical full name, address, and phone #. The photo is particularly worrisome to me. That could be used to forge a fake ID.

The ad posted on craigslist:

Summer Maths Tutor Are Needed

Date: 2011-08-02, 2:54PM EDT

Reply to: benbrian2011@gmail.com

Math Tutors are needed.

Tutor Doctor need tutors to work in students homes or local libraries for Summer and Fall programs. Tutor Doctor offers One-on-one tutoring.

We are looking for teachers with experience in teaching reading to elementary school students especially for rising 3rd and 4th graders.

PostingID: 2526386549

The response I got:

Hi There,

Thanks for responding to my ADS on Craigslist.I'm Ben Brian by

name but I'm currently working on a contract in Subang Jaya, Malaysia

with my wife and my son.My son (Julian) will be coming for a vacation

in the US & close to your location.I want him to be busy with his

study while having fun also.Therefore,i want to know if he can always

come to you for lesson on Math.If this is possible,am offering you $60

per hour & he will be coming to your Place for 2 hour,twice in a week

(Wednesday & Friday) for 2 weeks.I'll have someone that will always

drive him down to your Place or library in your neighborhood.I mean a

Nanny,and Julian is 12 year old and he hardly excel in Math.As stated

earlier,I'm offering you $60 per hour & you'll be teaching Julian for

2 hour twice in a week,for 2 weeks which makes the total of your money

to $480 and I'll include additional $20 in case you need to buy some

textbook for the tutorial.

Julian is new to this,so you just have to be patient with

him.I've informed Julian about this & he's happy to start as soon as

he get to the US.Please understand that am going to pay you for 2

weeks which is $480 plus $20 for textbook and my client will be

sending you my check which you're to deduct your own money & you're to

send the rest of the money to Julian nanny so that they can use the

money to get accommodation close to your location and any other

arrangement needed.kindly get back to me with your full information so

that the payment can be issue out on your name as soon as possible.I

need the following information

*Your Full Name

*Your Residential Address with State,zipcodeand city (NOT P.O BOX )

*Your Phone Number

*Your Picture so that i can show Johnson

I'll have Julian picture e-mail to you for recognition as soon as i

hear back from you.Thank you in anticipation of your co-operation &

understanding.I'll be looking forward to hearing back from you as soon

as possible.

Regards.

There are legitimate tutoring jobs out there--I am positive of that! I just don't seem to be finding them. Maybe I should not look for them on craigslist anymore.

So you can add 'Ben Brian' to the list of tutor scammers now!


Natalie 5 years ago

Same thing happened to me. Replied to a tutor posting, Ithaca, NY. Correspondence with a HENRY DAVIDS. Almost the exact same email as on this site... math tutor for his son "John". Time went by and I figured it wasn't real, but then I did receive a check in the mail with instructions on what to do (cash it, send money to "nanny"). Did not follow them! Shredded the check, thanks to this blog! All seems so stupid now...it was obviously a scam! But I'm just glad I didn't follow through with any of the actions he told me to. Still pretty shaken up about it though...


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Storytellersrus 5 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

Thanks you two! I have added Ben Brian and Henry Davids to my list of creeps out there who make money preying on good hearted tutors. I agree, this is a very overwhelming experience- good fodder for nightmares, eh Natalie? I am so sorry you had to go through this again, olderandwiser. I am going to look up the photo bit. I think you are right about identity theft.


not falling for that 5 years ago

This is the ad I responded to:

TUTOR (South coast)

Date: 2011-09-09, 8:25PM EDT

Reply to: job-btu63-2590907935@craigslist.org

Wanted dependable/responsible someone that can tutor our child Part time, who is 10yrs old daughter. We need someone that is matured, have working experience from any field to take care of her in terms of impacting knowledge and morals and such person must have good background check. Send your resume/reply for preview

PostingID: 2590907935

The email I received on Sept. 14th:

Michael Gruny gruny.michael@yahoo.com

Thanks for replying back to my online job posting, requiring the tutorial service for my daughter, I would like to make a tutoring arrangement between you and my daughter starting 10th Oct 2011 and I would like you to tutor her within a period of 12 weeks, on a schedule basis of 4hrs Daily and 5 times weekly.I am paying you the first week teaching payment before she will be coming so that you can ensure you are hired for this job and also can get the necessary materials and tools ready upon her arrival. I am paying the weekly wages in advace with $440. I would like to use these medium to inform you that my Daughter don't live in the USA, She would be flying from Mexico to the USA because she is spending sometimes here, I want you to teach her English Langauge or (and) Mathematics for 4th grader during this period of staying in the USA, if there is need to extend your services, an amendment would be made to your salary depending on how good you are with her. The Local Library would be your meeting place with her, She would be dropped off/picked up by his driver during the hours of teaching.

Payment Terms & Condition:

You would be receiving a Certified check from my financial in USA, since i am off to Mexico to pick her back to the USA and making payments from Mexico wont be honored in a bank in the USA, These check would be made out for the cost of the tutorial services you are rendering and for the materials and tools needed for my

Daughter. Regarding this. I hope i can trust you with these payments, as the payment would be made out in excess to cover the first week payment for you and also for materials and tools needed to tutor her, so all you have to do is deposit the payment at your bank when it get to you for it to clear and deduct your part for the services and the remainder would be use to purchase the materials and tools needed for her. So hope i can trust you that you will teach my Son good academics and some moral respects so that he can be good to herself in the future and that she can be proud of you, i hope i can count on you for the tutorial and the money to be sent to you.

I look forward to read a detailed message from you containing the following information, if you are OK with my arrangements, terms and

condition.

FULL NAME:

HOME ADDRESS (no P.O.Box please):

CITY:

STATE:

ZIP CODE:

CELL PHONE:

HOME PHONE:

GENDER:

AGE:

PRESENT JOB STATUS/POSITION:

EMAIL:

Thanks for your Understanding.

Michael

The second I read his email, I knew something dodgy was going down. I'm slightly worried because I sent him my resume when I responded to the ad. I can only hope he didn't look at it.


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Storytellersrus 5 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

I have not heard anything further from the above comments to indicate that these resumes and addresses are used later. If someone has had such an experience, please let us know! I have added Michael Gruny to my list above. Thanks so much.


Beth 5 years ago

I had someone approach my tutoring ad exactly the same way. Her son was visiting for a month and needed tutoring. She was emailing me desperately and quickly and really wanted to mail me a cashier's check, and completely stopped emailing once I indicated that there had been "problems with checks from overseas". Haven't heard from her since.


lis 5 years ago

Thank you!!!! I would've been scammed, although I thought something was a little off which is why I goggled him, but he went by a different name Michael Gruny. He gave very little info about his daughter and spoke mostly of money which I guess is motivating to most people, but I don't think he realizes that tutors or people in the education field are interested in the money (Most of us and maybe just a little). Also I found it odd that if he had all this money to give to someone he has never met, let along trust his daughter with, had drivers for his daughter etc. he must hold a very high position. But after reading his long email that had misspellings and misplaced words I wondered what kind of job he had. Not that my grammar or spelling is great, but hey that’s not my specialty.


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Storytellersrus 4 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

My daughter agrees, lis. She kept emailing with questions like, what does your son like, tell me about him, etc. But received nothing back, which was very strange. I will add Michael Gruny to the list, thanks!


Mike 4 years ago

A friend of mine found this article for me after I told him about that weirdo who now clearly is a scam artist. Haven't received a check..yet..but unfortunately gave that person my address. Am I in danger of an identity theft already, or just if I would cash a check?


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Storytellersrus 4 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

Mike, good question. If it were me, or my daughter, I would immediately follow the guidelines above under identity theft. It is always better to be proactive than wait to discover your identity was compromised. Good luck!


Scammer Detector 4 years ago

I recently responded to an ad to tutor French. The scenario, similar to some posted above, went as follows: a man needed a tutor for his young son who was supposed to travel to Paris for Christmas. The man claimed to be a marine and to be located "onshore" (instead of offshore!!!). I was asked to provide my full names and address b/c he wanted to send me a check to cover for the class in advance. The check in question was to carry EXCESS FUNDS that for his son's NANNY. The excess funds will have to be transferred to the nanny. Etc. No details were provided about the son's age, language level, linguistic needs, etc.

The author of the scam went by the name of Joey Shands and his email address is joeyshands@rocketmail.com


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VendettaVixen 4 years ago from Ireland

Very informative hub - thanks for taking the time to bring things like this to your readers attention.

I actually met a couple of scammers through children's websites. They pose as children, then they ask for your email address, then you get a sob-story about how their daddy or mommy needs money for this or for that because of how poor their family is.

I don't know how they expect a kid to get their parents credit card info, though.


KB 4 years ago

Thanks so much guys for sharing your experiences. I have recently gotten a similar email. I have shared my apt address and my mobile phone number, I'm wondering if I'm exposed to the scammer or am I safe as long as I don't wire the check?

This article has definitely saved me!


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Storytellersrus 4 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

I would probably err on the side of caution and check out information on protecting your identity- see resources above. Then take precautions and pay attention.

Do not wire the check!!!

If your apartment is vulnerable to intruders, you might want to notify the police or a landlord, just to be on the safe side. I figure it can't hurt, right?

My daughter has not had issues in the years since. Still, keep watch and do the basics to protect yourself! And good luck.


A Grateful Voice Teacher 4 years ago

Thank you SO much for posting this. I put an ad up for teaching at my Studio and, I promptly received an answer from a Gentleman who said his Daughter need a Voice tutor for the Month. She was visiting from the U.K and wanted lessons 3 days a week 2 hours a day. His email was choppy and written in broken English but I thought it was because he was not a Native of the USA. I come across that a lot. Anyway, he just asked me 2 seconds ago to send my info so a currier can send me a Check. I decided to check to see if he was a real guy and I found this! So Thanks again, you really saved the day. :-) I will be suspicious of Grass that looks greener in the future.


Grateful Voice teacher 4 years ago

Oh! I almost forgot. The Mans name was Dr. Alen Robbert. Craig handle " Lord456789" and he likes to quote the Bible in every Email. Interesting isn't? How easy it is to Assume someone is "Okay" based on if they have say they have a high level of Education, quote Religious stuff and are willing to allegedly give you a lot of money. lol


slumberingpaladin 4 years ago

You can add the email addresses to your list of scammers.

I perform volunteer moderation on a dating site, and can instantly recognize what we call "scammer grammar".

]I had posted on craigslist to give backgammon lessons, and received this reply.

I'll give a few examples below.

First, expanded headers

from Kendra Brandy kendraandbrandy@gmail.com via craigslist.org

reply-to Kendra Brandy larrygay2@gmail.com

Hello,

How are you doing today and How is the Weather also?. I just want to know if the tutor

lesson still available for my son, He is 15 years old and his name is David, I want you to

calculate the cost of 2 hours per day for two days in a week for the whole a Month

which is 16 hours per month and email me back the total cost....Awaiting for your quick

response. Best Regard.

=======================================================

Notice the random capitalization, a hallmark of scammer grammar.

Second, why would the weather be of any interest?

Third, they never specify WHAT the lesson is about.

I replied, wanting to see what they said next.

My reply -- I charge $180 for a 2 hour lesson, payable in cash at the start of the lesson.

8 lessons would be $1440.

Tell me about David and his prior game experience. --

The following has slightly different address headers, as well as the "son" is a year older.They are asking for information so they can "write me a check", when I clearly specified that I only take cash.

from Laura George larrygay2@gmail.com

date Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:13 AM

subject Re: Backgammon Lessons (Your home or office)

Thanks for getting back to me and everything sound good to me, Am

Laura George by name, my son is coming for a holiday in your (CITY), His

name is David and is 16 years old .I want him to be busy in the time

of the day, because am in Spain for business trip i will be back in 2

months Time that is why i want him to be lesson,..Am okay with your

price and i have decided to let him attend your lesson and he will be

coming 2 hour in a day, also get back to me with your own convenient

time and day you want my son to be coming in 2 days in a week and i

haves Someone (Nanny) that will always drives him down to your lesson

center..I will be happy if you can help my son because my son is

highly interested in your tutor lesson ..Make sure you check your

email often if there is any emergency or important notice

Kindly get back to me with your information below to be on the check.....

First name...................

Last name.....................

Door step street address...............

City..........................

State.........................

Zip/Postal code...............

Home phone....................

Cell phone.....................

Hope to read back from you with the details requested

Laura.

==================================================================

"Laura" has not written back.


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Storytellersrus 4 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

Dear slumberingpaladin and Grateful Voice Teacher, I have posted your scammers in the links and am very appreciative! Thanks for your patience- I have been swamped with family health issues.

GVT, I agree it is so very sad that scammers and others like them find it lucrative to use religion as a selling point. I hope you find legitimate voice students with potential and integrity. It's also sad that they prey on sweet teachers, who generally have empathetic hearts.

slumberingpaladin, thank you for your volunteer work in this area and for your experience regarding what to look for in a scam letter! I consider this article part of my volunteer contribution to the world, as well. Comments like GVT's make it all worthwhile!


Sree 4 years ago

Hi,

My friend brought this to my notice recently, and I was truly shocked to see my name in the discussion here. In a discussion nearly 22 months ago, someone pointed out my name with a shipping address as a scammer and I would like to tell you that I am caught in without my knowledge! Does anyone know how to get out of this loop? I am afraid my name is wrongly being used in other scams!


Rick 4 years ago

I am a wedding photographer in the Dallas area and we get these several times a year. They send too much, and want us to pass along the extra to a "agent" or wedding coordinator who strangely lives out of state. I have tree of their checks, and post the message to my blog as a way to warn other photographers. I get hits from around the world from photographers that were sent the same scam.


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Storytellersrus 4 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

Rick, I had no idea this scam pattern was so pervasive! I'll bet it is a billion dollar industry. I should research it- how does one research such illegal activity? Anyway, thanks for the heads up and for clueing in your fellow photographers as well as us!


3 years ago

Add Raymond Moore.

Here's the email. It came from cmagallon2000@yahoo.com.

HI, I was going through Craigslist when i saw your post about the services you render...I am relocating to your area and I will need lesson section for my daughter for a period of two months. My daughter is 16 yrs and with the little i read from your AD on Craigslist i believe you should be able to help her.

 I would like to make a tutoring arrangement between you and my daughter for this month of October/  November 2012, I would like you to tutor her within a period of 2 months, on a schedule basis of 1 hr Daily, 3 times weekly, totaling 24 times in two months.

I'm willing to pay your rates, so kindly get back to me with the total cost of tutoring her for two months / 8 weeks. And i will be paying you through a Check. Thanks and i await your quick response ASAP

 Raymond Moore


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Storytellersrus 3 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

I imagine in this time of economic challenges, there are even more scammers trying to beat the system. I am glad you were scam savvy! I have added Raymond Moody to the list. I also added his yahoo user name.

FYI, I deleted the posts from 3 years ago as this comment section is a bit unwieldy. I apologize, if I deleted your story. You matter! But that many comments was overwhelming to readers- I had comments on the number of comments, lol. I will delete my responses unless there is something important in them to share, because yours are the MOST valuable. Thanks to all who have shared your stories... Be vigilant.


gkdmaths 3 years ago

Oh gosh.

I spent an hour filling out my vital information (except my birthday) trying to earn a little extra money tutoring for this guy:

http://www.gradepotential.com/

I didn't sign the "contract", but they still have my name, address, resume and phone number. I'm glad you have this site and I was able to find more information. Mostly I'm glad I didn't sign something that sounded a little fishy. I just lost my job, my girlfriend moved 2000 miles away and now I could have my identity stolen?

Sigh.


Duped 3 years ago

I feel pretty silly thinking that I almost fell for this scam and I generally consider myself a fairly savvy individual when it comes to things like this. Fortunately, western union's fraud unit intercepted the transaction. I don't think I'll lose any money, but please be aware that they are still operating out there.


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Storytellersrus 3 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

Futamarka, I am sorry but I cannot approve this. I do not speak nor understand written Russian.


Sarah 3 years ago

Thank you all sooo much for posting this!! I posted an add about an ESL tutor and received the following email. I almost fell for it until I did some googling and came across this page. Thank you all!! It's pretty amusing that these "emails" share a similar stance, ie have children who are studying abroad for a month, and want tutoring 1 hour daily...

Hi,

If you still available to you to teach my son In English Or Math for 1 month at your Home? let me know, Kindly get back to me if you still available.

Thanks.

(My response)

9:33 AM (0 minutes ago)

to diaby.jens02

Hi,

I am interested. How many hours and days are you looking for? Please let me know.

Thanks!

Pat Welcher

9:48 AM (0 minutes ago)

to me

Hello,

Thanks for your mail with trustworthiness and honesty. I am okay with

your Tutor, and I am from Spain,my son will be coming for an holiday

in the U.S,and i want him to be busy throughout..Therefore, i just

want to know maybe he can always come to you and teach him great

things on [ Lesson ] every afternoon. If this is possible,i will want

you to get back to me with the cost of your teaching for the Month of

June to July..He will be coming to your house for 1 hour each

afternoon,I have someone that will always drive him down to your

house..His Name is Dan,he is 14 years old. I will want you to

calculate 1 hour per day for Monday,Wednesday,Friday for the whole 1

MONTH,and get back to me so that we can arrange on payment.And i want

you to know that my client who is in US will sending you via Bank

Certified Check" as soon as you receiving the payment and cleared into

your bank account...So that the certified Bank check can be issued out

to you today once i get your full details to issue the Payment, Kindly

get back to me with the following details of yours below, so you will

received the payment tomorrow morning via courier service. I will

appreciate quick response from you now.

Kindly get back to me with the following details of yours below:

----Your Charges for An Hour

----Your Total charges for 1 Month that will be taught 3 times per week.

----Your Full Name to Issue the check,

----Your Street Address,City,State,Zip-Code,Not Po.Box

----Your Phone number

Please note that the payment will be overnight to your address. And i

am still waiting for your mail now.Asap.

My best Regards to you and your family.


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Storytellersrus 3 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

Amazing that he commends you on YOUR HONESTY. Wow. Add diaby.jens02 to our LIST OF SHAME!


Eleanor 3 years ago

I recently began a correspondence with one such scammer. I gave him my first name, town and some test scores - if I stop talking with him immediately, should I be worried about further consequences?


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Storytellersrus 3 years ago from Stepping past clutter Author

Eleanor, I can only say from my daughter's experience that the communication stopped when she stopped communicating. Good luck!


Heather Oh 22 months ago

So I was contacted by very similar individual about 2 weeks ago and I already gave them my mailing address(not permanent address pretty much everything is under) and name and cell phone number. I received the chehc which is way too much than what i expected, which i already knew since I researched about this after I sent out my personal information(Darn it). Any case, will I be okay as long as I do not cash the check? I am planning on shredding it at my work.

Thanks for the all the info


Heather Oh 22 months ago

Yeah, by the way this person even accused me of whether 'his' money being safe with me. How can you even talk about bible stuff just to go fraud someone? Anyways, I am very thankful and his name was Roger Rose and his email was rogy06@hotmail.com.


Abhijeet 12 months ago

I recentlu underwent such scam, please tell me what to do next?

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