Voter Ignorance:The Enemy Within

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),    3rd President of the United States, Author of the Declaration of Independence, Author of the Virginia Statue of Religious Freedom, Founder of the University of Virginia
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), 3rd President of the United States, Author of the Declaration of Independence, Author of the Virginia Statue of Religious Freedom, Founder of the University of Virginia

Thomas Jefferson warned that an uninformed electorate would destroy the freedoms of a republic: "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, ...it expects what never was and never will be." His words are a chilling reminder that the United States of America, the noblest experiment in bottom to top governance ever attempted by civilized men, will be forever threatened from within. The republic will survive attacks by Al-Quaeda. It will revive a gasping economy and it will stave off China and its other creditors when they move to collect our national debt from future generations. But as a representative democracy, it will never survive an ignorant and uninformed electorate.

The World Public Opinion Organization, a project managed by the Program of International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland, surveyed American voters following the mid-term elections in November, 2010. The recently published results will make Mr. Jefferson spin in his crypt. The data expose startling gaps between voters' perceptions about the major issues and the opinions of key professionals who are insulated from partisan influences. The report indicates how shamefully misinformed the American electorate was when making their 2010 Election Day decisions. If ignorance is bliss, then most American voters are living in a state of political nirvana.

This study was designed to focus on four key areas:

  • Perceptions of Misleading and False Information
  • Evidence of Misinformation Among Voters
  • Variations in Misinformation By Voting Behavior
  • Variations in Misinformation By Exposure to News Sources.

Perceptions and Evidence of Misleading and False Information

Among both Republicans and Democrats, 91% of the voters polled said they frequently came across information they thought was misleading or false and more than half of them also felt it happened more frequently that usual. Even with this high level of suspicion, there was significant evidence that voters were still grossly misinformed about many of the major concerns that they claimed where important to them when making their ballot choices. Their concerns included the effects of the stimulus legislation, healthcare reform initiatives, TARP, the economy, global warming, campaign contributions, and even President Obama's birthplace. Furthermore, the electorate had perceptions about the prevailing consensus among economists and scientists that were, in a large number of cases, quite different then what these professionals were actually saying.

Variations By Voting Behavior and News Sources

The third major finding revealed there was a significant amount of misinformation shared by voters favoring both parties. Both Democrats and Republicans displayed enormous ignorance across a wide spectrum of campaign issues. In the end, neither group can claim the distinction of being better informed than the other. And finally, this study confirms that false and misleading information is common and widespread from all sources, including statements by candidates, political ads, etc., as was detected by 91% of the voters. In some areas, increased exposure to news sources appears to decrease false notions, however, there is adequate evidence that more exposure to some specific news sources actually increased voter ignorance about certain issues.

Voter Misinformation About the Issues

A large number of participants revealed that they were ill informed about the campaign issues that they identified as important to them when they were making their ballot choices. They had, the data suggest, made many decisions based upon false perceptions and erroneous beliefs.

Stimulus Legislation


Although the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated that stimulus legislation caused an increase of two million to five million full time equivalent jobs by the 3rd quarter of 2010, voters failed to get the news. Seventy-five percent of a Wall Street Journal panel of economists said in March 2010 that the legislation had a positive effect on growth. Yet, only 11% of the voters polled believed the stimulus package resulted in millions of jobs and only 8% thought that professional economist had this same opinion. Remarkably, 1 out of 4 believed it had caused the loss of jobs. Even more surprising, those who had not completed high school were three times more likely to know the truth than those with more educaion.

Health Care Reform vs. The Deficit

One again, a significant slice of those questioned failed to know the facts. In March 2010, the CBO concluded that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, known worldwide as Obamacare, would reduce the national deficit through 2019 by $124 billion (excluding the effect of the education provisions). Looking beyond 2019, the reduction would be about 0.5% GDP. Furthermore, the Boards of Trustees of the Medicare trust funds stated that "The financial status of the HI (Hospital Insurance) trust fund is substantially improved by the lower expenditures and additional tax revenues instituted by the Affordable Care Act. These changes are estimated to postpone the exhaustion of HI trust fund assets from 2017 under the prior law to 2029 under current law..."

In stark contrast with these informed projections, a staggering 82% of voters believed economists thought the legislation would increase the deficit (53%) or believed economist were evenly divided on the issue (29%). When asked for their own opinion, 3 out of 4 participants (75%) were convinced this healthcare reform law was going to add to the deficit during the next ten years.

The State of the Economy


In September 2010, the US Bureau of Economic Analysis (USBEA) reported an economic trough in June of 2009 that the Business Cycle Dating Committee noted as significant although not a sign that the economy had returned to normal. Rather, the NY Times quoted on September 20, 2010, the committee determined only that the recession ended and a recovery began in that month. About a month later the USBEA revised its estimate of growth for the 3rd quarter of 2010 from 2.0% to 2.5%. Around the same time, the bureau released its estimate that overall personal income would be 0.5% greater in October and they reported wage and salary disbursements in October had grown over 400% compared to the previous month. By election day, 2010, it was clear to the professionals that the US economy had begun to improve.

But it seems that too few in the government and in the media were trumpeting the good news. A majority of 55% who had voted in November thought the economy was still getting worse! Although those with income over $100,000 were slightly better informed about the direction of the economy, 43% in this group still believed that the economy was still sliding. Amazingly, those with less than a high school education achieve the unique status of being the only group in which most or nearly most (46% -51%), had the correct notion that the economy was getting better.

The Government Bailout of GM and Chrysler


Whether the GM and Chrysler bailouts occurred under the administration of President Bush, President Obama, or both was another area about which the voters were immensely mistaken on Election Day 2010. The Bush Administration made the first decision to rescue GM and Chrysler when it reversed its previous position to exclude automakers from TARP assistance. The first allocation of $17.4 billion under Bush was followed by another $63 billion under Obama. The government had made it clear that all of this monetary assistance was considered loans and not gifts.

But the responses gathered by the survey reveal that 69% believed only one president was responsible with most (53%) thinking it was Obama and the rest (16%) thinking it was Bush. Less than one third of the voters (28%) knew the fact that both administrations participated in the bailouts.

Income Taxes

Considering how Americans are always complaining about taxes, few noticed the $116 billion in tax cuts for individuals bundled in the stimulus legislation enacted in February 2009. It is a fact that more then 30% of the benefits provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act took the form of payroll tax credits for people earning less than $75,000. As a result, 97% of American households saved an average of $1,179 in taxes during 2009. Yet, nearly the entire voting public failed to realize that they were taking home more money each week. About 86% believed that taxes had increased in 2009 (38%) or had remained the same (48%). There is, however, one curious insight. Once again, approximately half of those earning less than $25,000 believed correctly that tax cuts were included in the legislation.

Ignorance Favors Neither Party

The third major group of findings from this study provides evidence that the widespread confusion about the issues is having an extraordinary impact on the American ideological landscape. The numbers expose the reality that the poorly informed electorate is shifting the fulcrum of the nation's power structure based upon perceptions, knowledge of current events, and an assortment of other beliefs that are mostly distorted or untrue. Sadly, when these false perceptions are analyzed along party lines, it becomes obvious that this is a national malady infecting supporters of both political parties .

Agreement On the Major Issues

Each respondent was identified with one of the two major parties and asked to rate the issues that were important in deciding how they voted. It is interesting that voters of both parties agreed on the five most significant issues affecting their voting decisions, although Republicans rated them as slightly more important than did Democrats:

  • The state of the economy.
  • The size of the budget deficit.
  • The healthcare reform act passed by Congress.
  • The unemployment rate.
  • The package of congressional legislation known as the stimulus bill.

 
Both Parties Misinformed About Some Issues


An astounding number within both voting blocks agreed about three issues and, at the same time, were terribly misinformed about the true realities. A sizable majority of each group (95% Republican and 77% Democratic) held the erroneous belief that the stimulus legislation created few jobs or caused job losses. Also, a disturbing margin within each party (92% Republican and 82% Democratic) thought that their taxes had not gone down during the Obama administration when, in fact, they had. And to a lesser degree, more than half of the voters polled in each party (71% Republican, 68% Democratic) were wrong in thinking the bailout of GM and Chrysler did not occur under both Presidents Bush and Obama.

Most Republicans Wrong On Some Issues

In five other areas, a majority of Republicans displayed a distorted sense of reality where most of the Democrats got it right. Nearly three-quarters of the voting Republicans (73% vs. 31% Democrats) wrongly thought that professional economist had concluded the health care bill would increase the deficit. Similarly, 72% of those voting Republican and 36% voting Democratic falsely believed the American economy was still in decline. And contrary to what was really happening in the country, most Republicans did not know that the stimulus legislation included tax cuts, that most scientists agree climate change is occurring, nor that Obama was born in the United States. The data ranged from 67% to 62% of the Republicans compared with 42%, 26% and 17% respectfully for Democrats,

Most Democrats Wrong On Other Issues

Some of the Democratic electorate also held warped perceptions about what had been happening in the nation. By margins of 57% and 9%, more Democrats than Republicans held the notion that it was proven that the US Chamber of Commerce supported Republican candidates using money raised from foreign sources. A majority of Democratic voters (56%) were not aware that Democrats were mostly in favor of the TARP legislation while only 14% of Republicans thought the same way. Finally, more than half of the Democratic voting block was unaware that President Obama had increased troop levels in Afghanistan, while 39% of Republicans were likewise misinformed.

The Sources Of Misinformation

False and misleading information appears to be ccoming from all sources just as the majority of voters suggested. The data support the obvious, i.e. misunderstandings about the facts occurred less often among those who used a greater number of different news sources. However, there were indications that voters with higher levels of exposure to some news sources were more misinformed about some issues. The survey was designed to correlate levels of misinformation with six news sources:

  • Newspapers and newsmagazine (both print and online)
  • Network TV news broadcasts
  • Public broadcasting outlets (NPR or PBS)
  • Fox News Network
  • MSNBC Network
  • CNN Network.

A substantial amount of misinformation was common in participants having a daily exposure to any of the news sources, even to those sources determined to have the lowest levels. Therefore, daily inputs from the same source(s) didn't seem to improve the accuracy of voters' perceptions. It is most interesting to observe the number of cases in which greater exposure to one source of news increased the level of misinformation on certain issues.

The Most Ill Informed Watched Fox News Network Daily

Viewers of Fox News were the most ill informed about most of the major issues. In particular, those who watched Fox News almost daily were significantly more likely than those who never watched it to believe that:

  • most economists estimate the stimulus caused job losses (12 points more likely)
  • most economists have estimated the health care law will worsen the deficit (31 points)
  • the economy is getting worse (26 points)
  • most scientists do not agree that climate change is occurring (30 points)
  • the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts (14 points)
  • their own income taxes have gone up (14 points)
  • the auto bailout only occurred under Obama (13 points)
  • when TARP came up for a vote most Republicans opposed it (12 points)
  • and that it is not clear that Obama was born in the United States (31 points)

The data reveal that increasing the level of exposure to Fox News increased the level of misinformation among the participants. The results also suggest, however, that political bias is not the only explanation since Democratic respondents seemed to be as likely as Republicans to display this tendency, albeit to a lesser degree.

Other Poor Sources

Those having daily input from MSNBC and public broadcasters like NPR and PBS were more prone to believe it was proven that the US Chamber of Commerce gave money from foreign sources to Republican candidates. Also, the survey determined that daily watchers of network TV news were more likely to think President Obama enacted TARP, and to a similar degree, more likely to believe most Republicans opposed TARP.

Can America Survive With An Ignorant Electorate?

The survival of a representative democracy depends on citizens who are well informed, alert, and dedicated to preserving the republic; an electorate willing to place what is "best for us" ahead of what is "best for me." Alarming signs are everywhere. Lanquid voters, living in the "information age", are drowning in a surge of falsehoods and half-truths designed to confuse and mislead. America is suffering from a blight of ignorance that has infected a large segment of the voting public. An electorate that can identify the critical national issues is unable to accurately gage the impact these issues are having on society. Political leaders are unwilling to articulate their goals and achievements in fear of alienating factions within their constituencies. Popular news sources are spreading huge volumes of distortions and misinformation to meet the demand of a market that rewards quantity over quality. Voters are not harvesting their facts from many sources. A multitasking society is willing to trade patience and tolerance for expediency. Yes, the future of this country is in the hands of America's voters. But are they be able to meet the challenge?

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lmmartin 5 years ago from Alberta and Florida

An excellent hub. In order to be informed the public needs responsible informers, not propaganda machines and that is where the whole system is failing. Instead of providing the people with facts, true facts, most news delivery services skew events to an agenda and play on societies basest prejudices and preconceived ideas. Divide and conquer has long been the rule of the world and America is definitely suffering the consequences of that action. There once was a time when NEWS was facts and only facts, not entertainment, not manipulation. That's what we need to recover. Lynda


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gregas 5 years ago from Corona, California.

Hi Quill, A very informative and interesting hub. And Lynda is right about the news media. I say they are more interested in reporting the mud slinging than the facts. After all, the mis-leading and false information is usually more interesting reading than the truth. The people of this country need to take the responsibility on themselves to research the information needed to make a responsible choice. They have to also make sure they get the true information. Greg


HSchneider 5 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

Excellent Hub. You are quite right. The amount of ignorance in the populace in regards to public issues of the day is immense. Ask about Lindsay Lohan or the Kardashians and they know all the new gossip. I consider it pathetic and a danger to our republic just as you wrote. Our founding fathers first set up our republic so only the landed males could vote. Democracy was not part of their view. They feared an ignorant citizenry. This was the impetus to create a first rate public education system. That also is now under great decay. Improved education and media coverage should help but I fear that our modern society with so much stimulus causes our people to put politics on their back burner. I hope it can be turned around. We need an educated and informed citizenry to make our democracy work.


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Quilligrapher 5 years ago from New York Author

Yes, Lynda, propaganda, network agendas and the public’s prejudices are all real and definitely working behind the scenes. But the extent of their influence probably varies from source to source. Thanks so much for your comments. Q.


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Quilligrapher 5 years ago from New York Author

Hi, Greg. Thanks for your comment. It is easy to blame the media but it is not the media’s mission to provide information, factual or otherwise. Nearly all popular media outlets were created to attract an audience. Voters, on the other hand, have an obligation to find and understand the facts about the issues before entering the voting booth. I hope we can learn how to accomplish this. And soon! Q.


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Quilligrapher 5 years ago from New York Author

I appreciate your taking the time to read and comment, HS.

During the huge public debate that raged prior to the final draft of our Constitution, there was, in deed, loud and vigorous opposition to forming a true democracy. The resistance came mostly from loyal and dedicated patriots who honestly believed that the majority of citizens lacked the intellectual capacity needed for complete self-rule. The compromise created our representative democracy, with three independent branches, and its checks and balances. Q.


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gregas 5 years ago from Corona, California.

Hi Quill, But the media has a tendancy to provide bad information. It should be their oblication to have their facts straight. And yes, it is the voters responsibility to get theis acts straight too. They shouldn't be so lazy and rely on the media like so many do. All the more reason the media should have their facts straight. Greg


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lmmartin 5 years ago from Alberta and Florida

On the contrary, Quilligrapher. When a news program sets itself up as "your source for news" it has an obligation to assure what it provides IS news, not propaganda. If it is entertainment, then stop calling it news. Simple.


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Quilligrapher 5 years ago from New York Author

Hi Lynda. Thanks for your input. For the most part I agree with you but I have a problem with the word “obligation”. Except for cases of slander and libel, journalists, outlets, and their content are protected by the First Amendment. They are not obligated, i.e. bound by some contract, promise, or responsibility, to avoid spin, propaganda, opinions, or entertainment in the products they choose to label news. Although I would prefer to see a greater display of ethics and personal/corporate conscience, neither is obligatory.

Voters, on the other hand, are aware that distortions, omissions, and diversions are common. Hence, as citizens we bear the addition burden (caveat emptor) of identifying misinformation when it is bundled with the “news.” Q.


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Dee aka Nonna 5 years ago

I so much agree with what has already been said. So many are so busy following the "mob" they can't get into the issues to get a clear understanding i.e. read for yourself and read or watch more than one source. Don't rely on "popular opinion" to make decisions. Great writing, great hub. Thank you!


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preacherdon 5 years ago from Arkansas

Great hub. I've often try to encourage people to become informed about the issues and the candidates. I also try to encourage them to vote. I find it sad that so many African-Americans suffered and sacrificed so that they and their decendents could vote and their decendents don't take advantage of it.

I also know that the media is good at spreading misinformation. I confess this past presidential election was the first one I paid close attention to. I could tell the Fox News had a different slant on the news than did CNN and MSNBC.

I was glad to see people energized to vote this past presidential election. I don't know if there will be the same zeal come next year. However, I do hope people become aware of the truth and verify the claims of politicians and parties for themselves. Instead of being a nation of people who were proactive politically, we've become a nation of people who whine and complain but things its someone else's job to do something about it. Thanks for the info.


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Quilligrapher 5 years ago from New York Author

Thank you, Reverend, for the read and the comment. Unfortunately, news outlets are not benevolent institutions created for the benefit society. Rupert Murdoch is not a media mogul due to his devotion to the truth. I believe nothing that I read, and only half of what I see with my own eyes. Intelligent skepticism and an open mind are the harbingers of learning. Keep the faith. Q.


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Hollie Thomas 5 years ago from United Kingdom

This is a really interesting and thought provoking hub. I've long believed that the true enemy, in addition to some other titles, is the tabloid press. It's pitiful that in 2011 so many people have not developed critical thinking skills and do not question the sources of information they receive or who's interests are served when the public swallow misinformation. Thanks for this.


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Quilligrapher 5 years ago from New York Author

Tnanks, Ms. Thomas, for stopping by and leaving a comment. I'm slow to blame the press. Developing critical thinking skills is the role of parents and schools and neither seems to be doing a good job.


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Hollie Thomas 5 years ago from United Kingdom

While I agree with you in principle, parents and teachers have to obtain their information from somewhere. It's the role of the press to report and share information. Ideally, although I know that this is, quite frankly, almost near impossible, information should be presented without value judgements, just facts. And, from a parents perspective, however much you try to educate your children, they do not grow up in a vacuum. There's so much news that just washes over them. Much of which is neither qualified or true.The news should be more like this hub, rational, reasonable and balanced.:)


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Ann Marie Dwyer 5 years ago from South Carolina, USA

Thank you for an objective assessment of the dismal state of the American intellect. Much of the populace has exchanged work hours to support their family for any attempt at self-education. At the end of a 10-hour work day, they are content to fall into a Lazy-Boy with a remote and a drink to be entertained by the bobble-heads, posing as reporters, stuffing what an associate's degree editor feels is relevant from a Congressional bill into a 4-minute time slot in a 30-minute broadcast.

The heated pre-Constitution debate is what birthed the electoral college. I personally think elections should be a popular vote, disregarding state lines and political parties; however, I fear the knowledge of the populace about the ramifications of their choices (and lack of legitimate choices) would still render the system as broken as it is today.

If the media was banished from the equation, do you believe the public would have enough wherewithal to understand the concepts and make educated choices?


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Quilligrapher 5 years ago from New York Author

Welcome to Hubpages, Ms. Dwyer. I appreciate your visit to this hub and I am grateful to you for your comment. Thanks for sharing your valuable insight on this subject. Q


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RANGER65 3 years ago from MacDill AFB

Good Hub. Howard Stern actually did a radio stunt in Harlem by asking Obama voters which of the agendas of Obama they supported, however, when he asked them on specific policies he used McCain's policies instead of Obama's and they all agreed with the policies. I actually believe that you should have to take a written test to vote. IMO.


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Quilligrapher 3 years ago from New York Author

They tried the "test to vote" idea in the South. Not a good idea. Many thanks. Ranger, for contributing your comment. Q.


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ledefensetech 3 years ago from Cape Girardeau, MO

But ignorance helps those in power to stay in power, so I wouldn't expect any changes anytime soon. Unlike Tocqueville's time in America, we don't have clubs and organizations which talk about politics, we have smear campaigns, name calling, and intimidation tactics.


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Quilligrapher 3 years ago from New York Author

Thanks very much for your remarks, Ledefensetech. Lack of information and indifference about the happenings in Washington continue to be a big problem among the electorate. We can only hope that change comes before it is too late. I appreciate your taking the time to read and comment. Q.


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My Esoteric 2 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

And three years later, nothing has changed :-(. Has this survey been reaccomplished? Great hub.


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Quilligrapher 2 years ago from New York Author

@My Esoteric

I thank you for reading and agreeing. Great minds...Oh well, you know what I mean. As for change, the consensus among the “experts” is not encouraging. Just the same, I did come across an essay recently on this subject. http://www.cato-unbound.org/2013/10/16/sean-trende... You may find it interesting too.

Thanks for stopping by. Q.


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My Esoteric 2 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

Good article and could lead to a 2000-word hub. The header caught my eye though - "Is Smaller Government, Smarter Government?" Given this is the CATO institute, I suspect the answer is yes, without bothering to define what "small" is; relative the Chinese Politburo and bureaucracy, the American government is minuscule, I would think. In any case, my answer is maybe yes, maybe no, it all depends on what the needs of the People it serves are and should be sized accordingly.

Locke's idea of "limited" gov't was on with checks and balances. Those who wrote the Constitution applied that and did their level best to create a mechanism which would tend toward Aristotle's Golden Mean. They even gave themselves the ability to control State election laws relative to federal elections such that the outcomes could be as free and fair as possible; a tool they rarely use.

There is no question in my mind that America has dumbed-down an I think it shows in election results, contrary to Sean Trende. What he neglected to address, when pointing out that voters still tended to vote for candidates who held their views, is how much reliance did the voters place on bumper stickers, sound bites, and negative advertising to form their opinion as opposed to reasoned thought.


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Sami Hanson 2 years ago from Kansas

I appreciate your objective analysis in this hub. I think that voter ignorance has become a huge problem in this country, and I appreciate you showing it from all sides: parties, polls, opinions, important issues, etc.


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Quilligrapher 2 years ago from New York Author

Thank you, Ms. Hanson. Voter ignorance isindeed a complex issue. If we, as part of the electorate, can not recognize the bias in our own news sources then we have put ourselves on the path to misinformation. The best approach is a wide mix of media outlets combined with an aggressive pursuit of the truth. I hope you will come visit again soon. Q.


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Dreamworker 24 months ago

One of the main reasons that the public is ignorant is because there has been an ongoing movement run by our illustrious leaders to dumb down the masses. I taught school for many years and watched the decline, and now we are seeing the results. This is what all third world countries do to their people, and it is what is happening now in the US. People are so easily led because they do not know how to think, analyze or forecast consequences. We are in BIG trouble. Excellent, excellent post!


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Quilligrapher 24 months ago from New York Author

Thank you, Dreamworker, for your comments. Having been a teacher, I am sure you appreciate the fact that some people tend to be leaders and others followers. The phrase "all men are created equal" does not apply to how well people think, analyze or forecast consequences. I am so glad you stopped by.


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My Esoteric 24 months ago from Keystone Heights, FL

I think the "dumbing down" is a result, not a goal, of America's love affair with the dollar. Since the 1980s, the conversation has turned from "what helps the People" to "what helps the bottom line". The focus has shifted from "what is needed for a great education" to "how cheap can we get in providing an adequate education."


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Quilligrapher 24 months ago from New York Author

Welcome back to my hub, My Esoteric reader. Your return visits are always a pleasing experience. You always bring your insight with you and you never fail to make a positive contribution to the dialog. Thank you and ya all come back real soon, ya hear?


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My Esoteric 24 months ago from Keystone Heights, FL

Thanks, happy to.


John Zoe 8 months ago

If you and your ''experts'' are correct about the ACA, than why did the former Lt. Governor of the state of New York, who is supposed to be an expert in the area of health care, say the ACA is a disaster and the plan endorsed by Donald Trump far better. Heard the interview and it did not come from a ''third party''. Care to comment Hub?


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My Esoteric 8 months ago from Keystone Heights, FL

Isn't a shame, Quilligrapher, that nothing has changed in 5 years since you wrote this ... except we know a major part of the cause. In reading, and now writing about, Jane Meyer's "Dark Money", there is no question about the influence of the billions of dollars spent by a small collection billionaires and multimillionaires, most whom belong to the Koch Donor Network on messaging to delude the American people. See http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2014/01/koch-netwo... for only part of the propaganda web.


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Quilligrapher 7 months ago from New York Author

Thank you, Mr. Zoe, for your interest in this hub. The time spent posting a comment is greatly appreciated.

Obviously, this space focuses on the appalling lack of voter knowledge revealed by exit polls after the 2012 national elections. I hope you will join in the discussion by sharing your thoughts on this topic with us.

Meanwhile, I look forward to hearing from you again.

Q.


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Quilligrapher 7 months ago from New York Author

@ MyEsoteric

Welcome back! Always a pleasure to see friends returning regularly to further the discussion. Thank you for the link. Truly interesting reading. Q.


Sanzxuary 2 weeks ago

The problem with information these days is that it requires an agenda to even be heard. If you care to debate the issues its an argument and all facts are considered baseless in forming the debate in the first place. No problems are identified and none are ever solved. We simply ignore the original problem and add to it. Then we blame anyone except for the ones who made the problem. Who is responsible for the recession? Who is responsible for the mess in the middle east? How about Health care. We got universal health care because it got to expensive and remains to expensive. Someone was still always paying for those who did not have it. Taxpayers, Hospitals, often tax write offs and then their is bankruptcy for those who can not pay. Now everyone pays while a for profits industry continues to increase cost. The plan was in its first stage and fixes are needed but the Republicans have prevented anything from being fixed. The point is no one cares about the original problem. The real problem has always been cost and even a visit to a doctor is very expensive. The plan can not be fixed until someone wants to fix it. Instead we always hear the worst and never the facts. I hear about rising cost and I have never seen a number. There is nothing on the news about what we need to fix and I have no idea what is broken. Health care is only an example of what I am saying because everything else even becomes more ignorant. The Sanctuary cities are in open rebellion. In all truth its a law that prevents local law enforcement from enforcing immigration. It was done in public safety so an illegal immigrant would call the authorities if someone was in trouble. It is also the Federal Government who is responsible for immigration. I would love to see the Federal Government to stop providing funding to these places. It would only be half the population of America that you would be taking their tax dollars from. Maybe they should stop paying taxes. I can only imagine what its going to take to process eleven million people who are not citizens in this country. If you think they are robbing are system now I wonder what CPS will look like when we have about a million children hanging out their. People really need to look a little deeper on these simple answers that we are given. Its hard to believe that most of this problem began with rich people who wanted cheap labor, mostly in agriculture. Its not people running across the border like we imagined. They came in legally and just never went back. There were a hundred problems to begin with. We multiplied the problems several times since. Solving the problem is not going to be easy but all I hear is lets attack the people who might or may not be opposed. We have no idea what the rhetoric is and no idea what its about. We need to know what the problem was to begin with. How it became a bigger problem. Then realistically solve the problem for the future. if we are ignorant we have no way to correct past mistakes and we will continue to make even worst mistakes. The solution will become the problem until it destroys us.

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