When Is It Ok To Kill?

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The Ultimate Question

I believe we would be hard-pressed to find any living human being over the age of 16 who has not "felt" like killing another human being.

Since the dawn of time man has been killing man over different reasons ranging from money to a woman to no reason at all.

What exactly would get you to kill another human being?

This hub in no way is condoning killing in any sense. I am just trying to find an answer to this age-old question of when is ok to kill?

Here are a series of polls that I hope will open our eyes and minds to this question.

You are coming out of the barber shop. It is dusk and a man approaches holding a gun and demands all you have. You have your pistol on your waist just above your wallet. You are licensed to carry a concealed weapon.

Robbery

Do You:

  • Shoot and kill the robber
  • Hand it all over
  • I don't know
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You have your 7 month old baby and you are leaving the grocery store. You put the baby in the car-seat and buckle yourself in. You proceed to take off when a hand reaches through your cracked window grabs you and demands your car.

Family

Do You:

  • Press on the accelerator and careen into a building with his body killing him?
  • Hand over your car and hope he lets you get the baby?
  • I don't know.
See results without voting

You have been training as a crane operator for 1 year now. You are pretty good at operations of this piece of heavy equipment. Today isn't your day though, just you and another man are working. You swing a piece of iron to him and it knocks him off the wall killing him.

Future

Do You:

  • Tell the authorities you hit him, surely losing your job and career?
  • Lie and say he fell, saving your position?
  • I don't know.
See results without voting

War

You are in the middle of Afghanistan with your platoon of soldiers. You have entered a village with nothing but aged and women and children. You are ordered to kill them all. Do you?

  • Do the deed and live with it all your life?
  • Disobey a direct order and face the consequences?
  • I don't know.
See results without voting

You are a police officer and have been for going on 10 years. Martial law has been declared in the United States. You have been given a list of addresses of dissidents who have weapons you are to confiscate. Your pastor from your young days is on the list; upon arrival at his home you realize the only way you will get his guns is to kill him.

Citizens

Do You:

  • Kill him and take the guns?
  • Walk away and face your consequences?
  • I don't know
See results without voting

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Tough questions, huh?

Is it really ever ok to kill?

I don't believe so. After all, one of the ten commandments says to not kill. Are there exceptions? That is between you and God.

Let's look at what all Holy books say about killing. I am a Christian and follow the Bible and the teachings of Jesus-my Savior and Lord, but I also understand many follow other teachings. Let us just see which ones actually condone killing.

Confucius in the Analects is quoted as saying:

XII.19: Chi K'ang-tzu asked Confucius about government, saying, "What do you say to killing unprincipled people for the sake of principled people?" Confucius replied, "Sir, in carrying on your government, why should you use killing at all? Let your evinced desires be for what is good, and the people will be good. The relation between superiors (chün-tzu ) and inferiors is like that between the wind and the grass. The grass must bend, when the wind blows across it."

In the Hindu religion you have the term Ahimsa, which means non-violence across the board. In his commentary on the Yoga Sutras, sage Vyasa defines ahimsa as "the absence of injuriousness (anabhidroha) toward all living beings (sarvabhuta) in all respects (sarvatha) and for all times (sarvada)." He noted that a person who draws near one engaged in the true practice of ahimsa would be freed from all enmity. Similarly, Patanjali (circa 100 ce) regards ahimsa as the yogi's mahavrata, the great vow and foremost spiritual discipline which those seeking Truth must follow strictly and without fail. This was not meant merely to condemn killing, but extended to harm caused by one's thoughts, words and deeds of all kinds--including injury to the natural environment. Even the intent to injure, even violence committed in a dream, is a violation of the principle of ahimsa.

There are many who say that the Koran supports killing. I have not read the whole book, so I will not agree or disagree. It does seem to me that many Muslims do interpret their Holy book to say so. I did find this in the Koran that seems to dispel killing:

5:32: "For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's sovereignty), but afterwards lo! Many of them become prodigals of the earth."

The Talmud teaches that killing is only right in self defense situations. The Talmud is the Jewish scriptures.

If you read the whole Tao-te-ching you will see that killing of anything is really not condoned. This is Chinese philosophy.

So for the most part, the Holy books don't condone killing. So why does mankind keep killing. Greed, money and power are 3 reasons I see.

God did tell us to kill to eat, I understand that, but to kill other humans is wrong. It is evil. Yes mankind has found loopholes in these books to go on killing. I wonder how they will answer to our ultimate judge.

I hope that this hub opens minds and hearts.

I know I cannot bring peace to this world myself, but if we all look deeper within-maybe there is a chance for a more peaceful world.

© G.L. Boudonck

© 2010 Greg Boudonck

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schoolgirlforreal 6 years ago from USA

thankyou for this very interesting and entertaining hub. I love surveys!

also I don't believe in killing old people or unborn babies.

thx

http://hubpages.com/politics/Abortion-as-a-form-of...


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Marie Louise 6 years ago

Wow! Well done, good job provoking thought and involving your audience. I love the fact that you put the questions right before the facts, the questions made me think and contemplate and then the paragraphs that followed made me think again. Love it!


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lisadpreston 6 years ago from Columbus, Ohio

I believe the correct translation in the scriptures is murder not kill. It is never ok to murder. We murder every day in wars for totally corrupt reasons and it is sick. We murder people on death row out of revenge which is sick and premeditated and causes us to become as filthy as the death row inmate. I don't know for sure but I can say that I would probably kill someone if they molested my child or raped my daughter or if they were trying to kill my child. Self preservation is the first law of nature. I think if I saw someone raping or trying to kill any child and I was able to kill them, I would. Call me evil if you will but I probably am not that evolved to turn the other cheek on those examples I gave. I turn the other cheek on a lot of things but those I cannot. Thanks for a thought provoking hub.


homstdr74 6 years ago

It is my belief that the admonition "Do not kill" means "Do not murder". There is a difference. Taking of an innocent human life is never condoned. However, if during the defense of your life or the life of others the aggressor's life is taken, that is legitimate. God did not give us our lives just to allow another to take it. Self defense is always a legitimate option.


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Granny's House 6 years ago from Older and Hopefully Wiser Time

Great hub. I enjoyed it very much.


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Happyboomernurse 6 years ago from South Carolina

Dear Froggy,

This was a thought provoking, well written hub that really involved the reader. Your creative use of the polls was very compelling and seamlessly interfaced with the text eliciting one's emotions, not just logic or assumed beliefs.

Knowing (from your profile page) that you believe your 23 month old grandson was killed and yet you continue to hold strong in your Christian faith while being respectful of other religions and views, made this hub even more compelling.

My heart aches for your loss but I'm glad you're able to find solace in your faith and get others to examine their own hearts, minds and souls about the violence that exists in the world and their own sometimes conflicting instincts, beliefs, and propensities toward rage.

May God bless you and your family.


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rachellrobinson 6 years ago from Southwest Missouri

Interesting Hub, I don't think anyone will ever know in their lifetime if killing is alright. I am sure when they meet God he will be able to tell them. Personally I think he will have a few choice words for the people who blantantly kill children, be it in the womb or later. The worst kind of evil on this planet is someone who hurts or kills a child.


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smallperson 6 years ago from Seabrook,Texas

Interesting, I cannot say I enjoyed it, but very thoughtful. I believe if my life is endangered I am to protect my own.


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Peter Owen 5 years ago from West Hempstead, NY

I just don't know the answer. these type questions make the mind go in circles and I always end up where I started. A lot of it depends upon my mood when I am ponderig this and what atrocities are showing on the News at that time.

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