Politicians Need to Compromise

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As children, we heard the familiar saying, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.” Of course, we all know the insanity of that old adage because name calling does hurt, no matter how hard we try to hold our heads up and deflect criticism. My mother would tell me, “Now honey, just remember it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight.” Oh, how I wanted to believe those kind words that were filled with so much love.

In the 1960s, my school had two groups of students. One group was called the “Clicks” and one was called the “Studs.” The “Clicks” wore Madras shirts, dress slacks and loafers. Most had neatly groomed hair, some played sports and many were members of various school clubs. Then there were the “Studs.” This group of students had their hair slicked back and combed into a DA (duck’s ass), wore black pegged pants and Cuban heeled boots. You didn’t find “Studs” in any school clubs and certainly they weren’t involved in sports or after school activities. One of these boys started picking on me for God knows what reason. At first, I was intimidated and then slowly I started getting angry. His pursuit in making my life miserable was endless and eventually I had to take action. In gym class, we would line up single file and at attention. I made it a point to stand next to my adversary. When the gym teacher turned his back I took my right knee at full force and jammed it into the side upper thigh of my tormentor. I dropped him like a sack of potatoes and brought tears to his eyes. Sometimes you simply have to fight fire with fire and from that moment forward this boy never bothered me again and as a matter of fact, we even hung out together from time to time.

Fast forward from the above to modern day politics and it is obvious to the most casual observer how aggressive bullies have become. I think because of the inflammatory nature of political opinion, many people shy away from getting involved and voicing whether they are pro or con regarding a certain issue. After all, once the opposition knows what your opinion is then prepared for the barrage of negative commentary and even personal attacks, both physically and verbally. Quite frankly, I am disgusted by a lack of respect some have for others who do not agree with them. When did our country turn into a one party system? Seriously, just pause for a moment and really think through the meaning behind that question. There was a time, in the not too distant past, where compromising contrasting ideas was a way to work through differences in philosophies and ultimately come up with a workable solution. If you have the moxie to stand up and voice yourself on a host of subjects, then you better put on your armor to deflect the verbal assaults that most definitely will occur.

I’m sure most of us remember in November 2001 when then-President George W. Bush proclaimed to the world, “You’re either with us or against us in the fight against terror.” I don’t think there are many statements as divisive as this one. It leaves no room for negotiation, compromise or neutrality. While I understand the reasoning behind Mr. Bush’s declaration, figuratively he drew a line in the sand between what he believed was correct, thereby leaving no other options on the table. The masses picked up on the President’s statement and then tweaked it to mean, “You are either with my ideas and political affiliation or you are against me and my country and if you dare stand on the other side of the line then you should just get the hell out of my country.” What a simplistic, ill thought out way to think. There are some who feel empowered by hiding behind the anonymity of a screen name. These cowardly writers have found freedom and are proving to be the worst type of bullies because they take great pleasure in attacking everything about another, including their patriotism, without even knowing anything about the other individual. The person who is the brunt of wrath may, in fact, be their neighbor, the person they share a pew with on Sunday, or the one standing at attention with a salute or hand on heart during the National Anthem at a sporting event.

Sadly, the bullies of words and character are present wherever there is an exchange between writer and commenter. Just recently I left a reply to an article that was contrary to my views. All I did was state my feelings and position on the author’s story, along with mentioning Cheney and my disgust with water boarding. I then received the following response: "What planet do you freak of nature liberals come from? he lied, he lied, he lied! Are you with me now? Are we seeing eye to eye?" Also, in part, "Want to know how insensitive and cruel we conservatives are pages? I don't care if they slowly pull their fingernails off if it will save the lives of my children! You do not deserve to live in my country! You make me so angry and frustrated that horrible minded people like you exist!" Really, I’m a horrible person? Am I a freak of nature? I don’t deserve to exist? Finally, the most hideous, rotten statement anyone could possibly write about me…”You do not deserve to live in my country.” I was so enraged by the last comment that it brought me back in time to the 1960s and the “Stud” that needed to be taught a lesson in civility. That boy learned his lesson and I would love to teach this person as well.

Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, Moderate, Progressive, are all labels. However, the most powerful label we should all carry is that of a united country and a proud American. Discourse is understandable and fully acceptable until it turns into personal and slanderous forays. It appears as though some, who in their zest to be right, toss aside decorum and respect for those with opposing views. Stop, think, and be thoughtful when responding to those who disagree with you. In other words, it is high time adults start acting like adults and not the childhood bully on the playground of life.

Written By: Dennis L. Page

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mperrottet 4 years ago from Pennsauken, NJ

I agree with you so much. The subject of politics has become way too overheated. Unfortunately this has happened during a time when we most need to discuss critical issues and listen to each other in order to solve the multitude of problems that we have. We are all Americans, we are all in this together.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ mperrottet Thank you for taking the time to read and comment on my article. I seriously don't know how and when the nastiness of leaving comments or replies started. I do blame the mask of anonymity, along with a boring 24 hour news cycle and the infamous shock jocks for stoking the fires of dissent and meanness. I'm afraid insults are becoming the norm and the days of respect and decorum have been lost.


Jessica 4 years ago

Nice Dennis! I agree, the focus in the political realm should be on what is right for our country as a whole, and about finding a common ground. Instead, it seems to be an us versus them mentality, which can only breed more discord.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

What a pleasant surprise having you stop by and comment Jessica. I abhor name calling and insulting someone else. While I do enjoy a healthy debate, I will not stoop to a level that goes against my grain.


Barb 4 years ago

If only, Dennis... If only... ?


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always exploring 4 years ago from Southern Illinois

I fully agree with you. The division in our country is crippling the economy and causing hate against anyone who has a different belief system. That to me is so sad. At one time we welcomed all people to our great land of opportunity, now anyone who is different is ostracized and bullied. It is imperative that we elect a President who recognizes the diversity and will work for the betterment of all. Thank you for sharing..


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Janbird 4 years ago from Northern England

As a British citizen watching from overseas, with a keen interest in US politics, I applaud you for writing this. Too often I've seen so-called "debate" degenerate very quickly into the kind of spiteful name-calling most of us thought we'd left behind in the school playground. It smacks to me of a poor understanding of history (how one can be both a Nazi and a communist defeats me, given that Hitler hated the communists so much he invaded Russia). It also shows a determination, odd in a country which cherishes freedom of speech, to oppress dissenting voices, a trait very much in common with the regimes America chooses to wage war against. I myself have been told to "shut your mouth and don't delve into US politics" by someone who didn't take kindly to disagreement. Needless to say, I haven't taken any notice!


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ Barb...I appreciate the fact you read this article and left me a comment as well. We need to bring back decency and respect for others in not only our physical actions, but also our written and verbal words. Sometimes I feel we have thrown common manners out the window with the baby's bathwater.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ always exploring - Thank you for taking time out of your day to read and comment on my article. You are correct about the current state of affairs being so sad. I love your comment, in part, "anyone who is different is ostracized and bullied." What we once thought was so appalling is now becoming more of the norm with certain segments of society. I don't think I will be on this planet long enough to see this trend in nastiness reversed.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ Janbird...It was a pleasant surprise to see your reply here on hubpages. I got a kick out of your comment regarding being a Nazi and a communist. A sad testament to education, or a lack thereof is how easily the ill informed can and do throw out labels. Of course, we have a war on education happening in this country and it seems to be showing through a lack of comprehension of words, phrases, mantras and narrow mindedness. I am glad you didn't take notice regarding someone telling you to "shut your mouth and don't delve into US politics." We are all interacting on a world stage now and the days of isolationism are long gone. Accordingly, we need to discuss differences as adults and not schoolyard bullies.


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Janbird 4 years ago from Northern England

I totally agree, pagesvoice. We are interacting on a world stage. The job of President of the US is unique in that it affects all of us on the planet, which is why I take such an interest. We're all world citizens first and foremost.


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MarleneB 4 years ago from Northern California, USA

pagesvoice, you have a way of saying exactly what needs to be said. I have the utmost respect for you, because you accept all views, whether they line up with your views or not. There is no need for name calling and whatnot. I normally do not read or respond to politically oriented hubs, but you provide an atmosphere that makes it safe to respond. So, I enjoy reading what you write. I know I don't have to agree with you, and that's OK. I do happen to agree with you 100% on this hub. By the way, kudos to you for taking out that "stud".


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ MarleneB...I am so fortunate to have had you drop in and read and comment on my hub. Thank you my friend. The sad thing is there are bullies all over the place. It was once confined to the neighborhood or schoolyard. Unfortunately, bullying seems to have found a niche by hiding behind a user name, thereby no one really knowing the individual leaving such nasty comments. I personally attribute the character assaults due to a lack of intellectual curiosity and a formal education. I don't, for the love of God, understand why some feel it necessary to attack, rather than discuss.


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MarleneB 4 years ago from Northern California, USA

Yes. I know about bullying, especially on the internet. I have a bully of my own here on HP and every time I see that a comment has been made by that person I just don't want to read what they have to say. It seems that anonymity allows people to feel protected and free to say whatever they want just to antagonize other people for no apparent reason. Like, right now I have two comments waiting to be approved by my bully. I know I can deny the comment, but what's the point. Bullies have a way of stalking. I don't think we can ever stop them when they reside online, as we can stop them in real life.


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ImKarn23 4 years ago

Dennis - seeing the gravestone of your father made me cry. Politics is out of control, but - then again - so are the voting masses. Have you seen one - even ONE - political commercial that has ANYTHING to do with the issues at hand? I haven't. All i've seen is back stabbing and bullying - just like you said. I laughed (because i didn't have any sharp objects handy) when Santorum 'backed' Romney - omg - i'm sure just a day or 2 earlier he was telling his 'followers' that Romney would be the beginning of the end for this country? No matter - what they say one day seems to have no connection with what they say the next - and 'we, the people' allow this to continue. HIS COUNTRY???? I believe we're past the 'tipping point' - and divided we shall fall! I remember the lead singer from the dixie chicks saying that she was ashamed that bush was from her state, and she was bullied and harrassed for YEARS - until everyone else seemed to agree with her. They went thru her taxes with a fine tooth comb, boycotted their concerts, sent death threats, etc. I don't know exactly of whom you speak re; nameless, faceless hub writers, but - i could take an educated guess! I vote for YOU for president, Mr. Page(s)! Bravo!


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MarleneB 4 years ago from Northern California, USA

Ditto ImKarn23! But, then if we voted for pagesvoice, we would be subjecting him to the sharp knives of the (sad but true) bullies who seem to be running this world. We love pagesvoice too much for that. Right? So, let's not put him through all that trauma. Instead, let's be happy that he is the kind of person who stands up for what he believes in and maybe (just maybe) enough people will hear his message and start to take notice.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

Thank you Ms. L for dropping by and leaving your in depth commentary. I purposely did not mention what writing site the personal attack on me was made because I feel it is best to leave that up in the air along with keeping the name of the person out of the limelight. The best defense is an even better offense and I will deny anyone who leaves derogatory and inflammatory responses on my articles.

Santorum and Gingrich now backing Romney is laughable and the epitome of hypocrisy...and this is the Christian right? Wow...we are in serious trouble.


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Gemini Fox 4 years ago

Ha! I know . . . was here a little while ago . . . ;)

Totally agree with what you're saying but it just makes you wonder how we ended up here? I mean really, some sociologist needs to do a study on this. What do you do when this type of attitude permeates even the upper levels of politics today (although maybe a shade more camouflaged)?

I admit I've been guilty of referring to sheeples and lemmings but some of them are just so utterly devoid of brain cells! Their thought processes don't go beyond a Fox sound bite – there is no depth to their knowledge and they apparently either don’t know this or more likely don’t care (just read a scary article that said that research shows that giving people the facts will not always change their mind about an issue – yikes!). The comment to you indicates that the article had something to do with torture? Literally two minutes worth of research shows that it has been proven that torture does NOT produce accurate information. And Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld are actually war criminals by the true definition and would be arrested for setting foot in certain other countries (what I would give to see that!).

"You do not deserve to live in my country!" – that’s actually really funny. I think that you have to view this sort of manic outburst as rather amusing – it simply means that you’ve hit a raw nerve and they are intellectually incapable of responding in any other way . . . poor thing . . .


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

Thank you Ms L and MarleneB for your vote of confidence as it is much appreciated. The whole purpose of my piece was to point out how low some people will go in regard to issues that face ALL of us. If everyone agreed and we all fell into lockstep with one another, then this would no longer be the United States of America. Again, I want to reiterate that nowhere did I name the writing venue I commented on, nor did I name the person who wrote the comments to me. As a matter of fact, I didn't even mention if they were female or male. I will abide by HB rules and deny any person leaving a comment that tries to engage me in a back and forth of personal attacks. My story was quite simply a wake up call to start being civil with one another and not so adversarial and I will continue in that direction.


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picklesandrufus 4 years ago from Virginia Beach, Va

I think you are exactly right. Whoever wrote that nasty reply is quite disgusting.Loved this hub. Vote up!


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ Gemini Fox...Thank you so much for reading and leaving me such a comprehensive reply. You are correct regarding me striking a nerve. I have learned throughout the years that those with the weakest format or arguments are also the same people who take to name calling and bullying tactics. The squeaky wheel gets the grease is their mantra. Fortunately, there are intellectual, free thinking and open minded citizens who will not stand idly by and allow the loudest and nastiest to control their way of analyzing a certain situation. Thank you again, my friend.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ picklesandrufus...I appreciate you dropping in and commenting on the lack of decorum in the political arena we are faced with today. Governments run much better when there is compromise and personal differences are put to rest. Not everyone gets everything they want all of the time. People need to be more respectful of each other and check their egos at the door of commentary.


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collegedad 4 years ago from The Upper Peninsula

Unfortunately politics is now a team sport. You choose your team and vote for said team whether they are right or wrong. It's unfortunate, because they are all wrong. Politicians have forgotten that they are here to serve the American people not themselves. They feel that legislating us to death is the only way that they can show their worth. For once I'd like to see a candidate advertise that they are going to Washington with the intent of blocking frivolous legislation. A candidate that would walk in with the constitution in hand and say "hey folks we've overstepped our bounds!" What a day that would be.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ collegedad - Thank you so much for dropping in and leaving a comment. So many claim they want smaller government, yet it is the politicians that rake in the best medical insurance, lucrative salaries with benefits, two gyms that do not allow any accounting figures to be shown or cameras inside. They are the epitome of double standards. Just look at all of the TSA people in airports. They are literally tripping over each other while they frisk small children and granny. You are correct in your comparison of politics to sports. It is the Red Sox versus the Yankees and neither side is budging.


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JON EWALL 4 years ago from usa

pagesvoice

‘’Why Can't Republicans and Democrats Play Nice’’

We have elected candidates that are not working for the best interest of the people. They have been in some cases directed to vote party lines or otherwise be subject to the blunt of the party. Power, money and greed has infiltrated our government, sorry to say. A past President once said ‘’ government is not the solution, government is the problem’’.

The progressive liberal Democrat has taken over the power in the Democrat party. The President has not fulfilled the promises he made in 2008 when running for office. . President Obama has not united Washington as he Claimed he would if elected. After 3.5 years it is a fact that the great uniter is in reality a great divider and has failed in showing leadership in directing the economy to resolve the problems facing our country today.

http://jon-ewall.hubpages.com/


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ Jon Elwell - Thank you for stopping by and leaving your comment. I do agree with you regarding money, power and greed within both political parties. As I mentioned in another article, we are more of a plutocracy than a democracy.

I think it is a difficult task to unite Washington, when you have someone like Mitch McConnell declaring even before the president's inauguration that the GOP's goal was to make him a one term president.


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JON EWALL 4 years ago from usa

pagesvoice

''difficult task to unite Washington, when you have someone like Mitch McConnel''

ISN'T SENATOR REID controlling what goes on in the Senate? Reid has been in charge since 2007,surely he has power to get the jobs bills to the floor.

The nation needs jobs, not a lot of talk.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ JON EWALL - You are correct in pointing out that Senator Harry Reid is the Senate Majority Leader and Mitch McConnell is the Senate Minority Leader. However, it is McConnell who has successfully led record numbers of filibusters thereby making the majority a nearly moot point.


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JON EWALL 4 years ago from usa

pagesvoice

The truth is that Senator Reid is denying our elected representatives to vote on important bills.WHAT we the people need is leaders who understand BI-PARTISAN debate.

Leadership in the Senate and a President who should stop crying about the other side.


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Laurinzo Scott 4 years ago from Phoenix, Az.

I agree with you 100 HUNDRED PERCENT. This smokescreen that the elephants, and the jack-asses have put up must be dissipated. We need to show them at election time. That their in-fighting damges the fiber of the very process they pretend to fight for.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ Laurinzo Scott - Thank you for reading and commenting on my article. I honestly and sincerely think both parties no longer actually care about the average citizen. Everything now is all about money...their money and to heck with the rest of us.


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JON EWALL 4 years ago from usa

pagesvoice

Let's not let the President out of the picture. Check this link as to why the country is in trouble.

Administration Oil Strategy Contributes to Price Increases 2009-2012

http://www.scribd.com/doc/87353590/Administration-...


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest

Great writing voice! I agree. I'm fed up...oh wait I registered to vote last year for the first time at age 36. I got frustrated with polticis and politicians before I could vote. You appropriately gave your school days as an example of polticial groups- it seems a bit high school to me too. But one thing you pointed out, or at least I took it that way, was how many people are opting out of getting involved. Yet as a country we desperately need people to be involved and even more than that...educated about their votes. My frustration lies in the fact that I don't care for most political candidates out there.

Best point here is WE ARE ALL part of the group of United States of America- but the problem i see living in a very diverse area is with so many immigrants and illegal aliens, many are not adopting that same pride. I hate to put that out there, ut it's true from what I see. There is a lack of respect for Americans and America right here in our own country.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ izettl...Thank you my new friend for reading and commenting on my opinion piece. You hit the proverbial nail on the head when you said, "There is a lack of respect for Americans and America right here in our own country." In looking at your comment closer and being completely honest with myself, I must confess if I moved to Canada (a country I love visiting) I most likely wouldn't be as proud as other Canadians regarding their motherland. Additionally, we have certain citizens (born and raised right here) who exhibit a lack of respect for the office of the presidency and others who do not share their same political views. We live in an age of nasty reality TV and it has filtered into our everyday behaviors with other people.


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tillsontitan 4 years ago from New York

"the most powerful label we should all carry is that of a united country and a proud American" you always make your point so well! Collegedad is right in that politics has become a team sport, but it never was intended to be and never should be!

We are all in this together and if the nonsense doesn't stop we're going to wind up back in the middle ages with a caste system.

I like the way you handled yourself with your bully and just wish there was a way America could do something with hers!

Voted up and very interesting. Sharing with my followers.


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peoplepower73 4 years ago from Placentia California

Fear can be a great motivator. What you hear from the populace is the fear from propaganda that each side has been fed. The results of the propaganda is: "If you don't think the same way I do, then you are affecting my well being." The purpose of the propaganda is to get congressman re-elected. Congress is in a re-election cycle every two years. They need the votes of the poplulace to get re-elected. However, their campaigns are financed by big monyed interests. Once they get re-elected, they are beholden to the big moneyed interests, not the poplulace.

Therefore they support the big moneyed interests. We are all just pawns in this political theater and end up hating the other side if they don't see things the way we do. We may even vote against are own best interests without even realizing it. The presidents are also beholden to the big moneyed interests. That's why politicians can say one thing during a campaign and then do another once they are in office...and there is no accountability.


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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Psycopaths (sp) are not like othere...they just pretend to be. When someone tells you to get out of your country, or is so filled with hate at you for being different...there is something WRONG in the way their brains are wired, IMO.

You must treat them as a mental patient. "There there now,pages will not disagree anymore....monster feel better now?" ")


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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

A fish rots from the head down: This is a good article about how things are different now. Sorry----but I see a lot of sickos out there, disguised as human beings.

From "Racist," to "Dick," to Heckling: How the press *really* treats President Obama http://bit.ly/MwmrGy


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JON EWALL 4 years ago from usa

HUBBERS

The answer to the question is

Barack Obama , he has pledged to unite Washington,hardly a uniter more like a divider.

Jan.25,2011 ‘’New day of cooperation’’

President Barak Obama delivers the 2011 State of The Union

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?post=65

2/13/10

President Barack Obama is hailing PAYGO legislation

PAYGO compels new spending or tax changes to not add to the federal deficit.

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&

Stimulus

Money from the 2009 stimulus bill to help support the renewable energy industry

Renewable energy money still going abroad, despite criticism from Congress

http://investigativereportingworkshop.org/investig...


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ Tillsontitan...Thank you for reading and commenting on my article. Thank you also for sharing and voting this Hub up. I certainly do appreciate it. I guess because of the amount of money and power that's involved, it has created a tornado effect of swirling hyperbole.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ peoplepower73...Thank you for taking time out of your day to read and comment on my Hub. You are correct that politicians are bought and paid for by big money. They claim to want smaller government and yet these same folks are the first to have their hands out for their government pay checks, government health care benefits, government retirement and a government gym that will not allow cameras or the expense to be exposed to the public who pays for it. They are the epitome of "I got mine and the heck with the rest of you." We really have lost our way.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ lovemychris...I'm glad to see you drop in and leave a comment on this Hub. I am baffled and befuddled by a lack of decorum and common courtesy we have for each other surrounding politics. My brother-in-law and I are polar opposites regarding our political views, yet we still can discuss and debate without calling each other names or telling each other to get out of the country. I thought that was what debate was all about, but apparently the ground rules have changed.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ lovemychris...I'm glad to see you drop in and leave a comment on this Hub. I am baffled and befuddled by a lack of decorum and common courtesy we have for each other surrounding politics. My brother-in-law and I are polar opposites regarding our political views, yet we still can discuss and debate without calling each other names or telling each other to get out of the country. I thought that was what debate was all about, but apparently the ground rules have changed.


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lovemychris 4 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Yes, it's a WHOLE different ball game. Money and its minions are not playing coy any more...they are flat out coming out of the shadows! IMO


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@ Jon Ewall...Thank you for reading and commenting. I certainly have picked up on the passion expressed regarding your political leanings. However, I respectively disagree with your position. We all have the ability to pick and choose what snippets and selective points we want to make for each side of the aisle in presenting our cases to the court of public opinion. Regardless of videos or Power Point presentations or even massaged figures, I think we make up our minds on candidates and party affiliation based on our mindset of what we interpret as right and wrong. Thanks again for dropping by, but I will stick to my political convictions just as I'm sure you will.


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JON EWALL 4 years ago from usa

pagesvoice

That's an interesting comment.

have a good day


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

I wish you a happy 4th of July. Old Glory is flying proudly on my house and I even purchased more "made in America" flags to decorate the driveway.I love my country Jon and I am sure you do as well.


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peoplepower73 4 years ago from Placentia California

pagesvoice: I liked your last comment to JON EWALL. I think you hit the nail right on the head. I'm reading a book called "The Righteous Mind...Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion. The author claims there is a different mind set that liberals and conservatives use and they will believe anything that matches that mind set. The internet is a wonderful place to find anything to support your argument no matter what it is. You have a great 4th of July as well.


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pagesvoice 4 years ago from New York/Pennsylvania border Author

@peoplepower73 - I certainly am appreciative of your kind and thoughtful comments. You know, before a 24 hour news cycle and the internet we had Huntley, Brinkley, Cronkite, and Chancellor, to name a few who by and large presented us with the news minus a political slant. The masses were not divided by rhetoric, mantras and name calling. After all, we were all part of the United States and weren't swayed by pundits. Somehow and somewhere this all changed...and not for the better. May you have a wonderful and patriotic 4th of July as well my friend.


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JON EWALL 4 years ago from usa

my hubber friends

Yes, my family will be celebrating the 4th. My flag is flowing in the breeze. Went to services wearing my flag socks and full flag shirt. Wrong again on my affilation,have been an independent after many years of being brainwashed by those great news casters.

6/3/12

What’s a Socialist?

A democratic Marxism, and it succeeded, even in (shh!) the United States

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/sunday-review/wh...

GOD BLESS AMERICA


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JayeWisdom 4 years ago from Deep South, USA

One of the greatest mistakes President Obama made when he took office was believing that he could act in an intelligent, forthright manner and coax the two sides of the Congressional aisle to work together. NOT! I think it's probably taken him nearly four years to understand that Republicans hate him and want nothing more than to destroy him, regardless of the effect on this country.

President Obama seemed to want his legacy as president to be that he brought Democrats and Republicans together to compromise and work as a team. Unfortunately, the GOP agenda is very narrow and written in stone. I hope he now fully realizes that it is a losing battle to get Republican cooperation or even keep them from sabotaging him.

There will never be either cooperation or dispassionate, reasoned discourse between Democrats and Republicans because the priorities of each are as far apart on the spectrum as it's possible to get. More's the pity.

I understand why many conservatives who are disenchanted with the "not your father's Republican Party" but don't like the Democratic stance either want a third major political party. What worries me is that they will vote for an independent candidate who cannot possibly win and possibly "throw" the election (which looks to be a close race). If they do this and later realize they've given the White House to an administration that does not have their best interests at heart, it will be too late to "un-do" their actions. Voting independent won't even make a statement that will be remembered past November 7, so I hope that those people considering this move will change their minds, using the next four years to position a third party in time for the next presidential election.

Jaye


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JON EWALL 4 years ago from usa

JayeWisdom

''Unfortunately, the GOP agenda is very narrow and written in stone. I hope he now fully realizes that it is a losing battle to get Republican cooperation or even keep them from sabotaging him.''

Needless to say that the President is the problem, Obama lacks leadership.

Senate Democrats Vote No To Extend The Payroll Tax Deduction

12/01/11 Pay-Go law 3/13/10 Leadership? $5.4trillion debt and 8.25 unemployment

http://hubpages.com/politics/SenateDemocratsVoteNo...

The PAYGO Law compels NEW spending or Tax Changes to NOT ADD to the

federal deficit.

Obama quote ‘’I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits -- either now or in the future,” the president said at a joint session of Congress. “I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period.’http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&

House Republicans have now passed 38 jobs bills that are currently stuck in the Democrat controlled Senate. Read more

http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/


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RonElFran 3 years ago from Mechanicsburg, PA

Thanks for reminding us of the damage that harsh words can do. In these days it's a message that can't be repeated too often.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

JayeWisdom

The latest on the 2014 budgets, the House and Senate have passed a 2014 budget. The President will submit his budget on 4/10/13 (due on 2/5/13) to Congress.The past 2 weeks, the President has been on the road, campaigning for 2014 and gun legislation.

The President lacks CREDIBILITY?

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/violence-gangs-scar.../united-jet-slips-runway-ny-no-injur

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