Valid reasons to stop following hate filled bloggers.

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Why I Chose To Stop Following Certain Bloggers

Is it polite to stop following, and blocking, people who comment on blogs by hurtful remarks and name calling?

The answer is: Yes

There ARE valid reasons to stop following certain bloggers

Even though "free speech" is afforded us under our constitution, it should be understood, and interpreted to mean, that it should be allowed, or tolerated, only to the extent that it does not become hateful, hurtful, or slanderous.

There is no excuse for that, and just because we have the right to say anything we want, any time we want to say it, does not make it right (or decent). (and especially 'christian')

The concept that every one is entitled to their own opinions may also be valid, but it is with the reservation, to make the concession that: "opinions are rarely based on common sense or logic'.

Everyone has an opinion, but most of them are biased and unfounded by logic.

Some people who comment on articles they read feel free to make judgements, call names, use slurs, insults, and truly hateful rhetoric, if anyone dares to disagree with their personal points of view.

It is worthy to note that many of the worst of them call themselves 'religiously adherent' who are only seeking validation from others for their beliefs.

If you disagree with their ''holy book" quoting, as a valid point of discussion, they delete your comments, and/or attack with nasty name calling, insinuations, accusations and threats.

It is also to be noted that those who are the most offensive are generally from the most radical extremes of both spectrum's (highly conservative or highly liberal - in both their political and religious convictions)

When an alternative point of view is presented they find it hard to even explore the possibility that their point of view might need greater introspect.

If they are lacking in proper education and/or the intelligence to logically express themselves, or lack the ability to rationalize and discern the difference between superstition and reality, they tend to resort to name calling, insults, etc...

The last person that was added to my 'stopped following' list , was not without merit.

When a blogger attacks those who comment, because they disagree with the point of view presented, it becomes problematic when the blogger attacks the commenter.

In this case, when the commenter made the statement that he/she hoped that this was not what the blogger was teaching their children, the blogger became irate.

The ensuing conversations became even more confrontational, when that comment was interpreted to mean, imply, or accuse the blogger of being a "bad mother". When in fact the implication was that her 'intelligence' was at question, not the parenting.

To add to that outrage the commenter also implied that the blogger should be 'pitied' for her narrow minded 'views' that are being passed on to her offspring.

Ergo, sparking the irate tirade that she "will not tolerate" anyone calling her a "bad mother", or saying that she is "stupid" or 'ignorant'.

Many common words can be misinterpreted by the reader if they are looking for reasons to attack instead of debate.

These 'interpretations' by the blogger, of the remarks of the commenter, were NOT perceived in that particularly crass manner by me, or other readers leaving comments.

Having been the brunt of her tirade on other matters myself, led to the logical conclusion, that this is not a person who we need to listen to, try to enlighten in any fashion, or ever attempt to have a half way intelligent conversation with.

'Discussion' or 'debate' was never an option with this writer. Everything was confrontational, not debatable.

When we run across this type of individual who is so adamantly in love with self, and their own narrow view of the world, it is unhealthy to continue any type of verbal interactions with them.

Being one who personally welcomes controversial subjects, and a healthy debate, it quickly becomes clear when "reason" becomes "unreasonable"; and debate turns to argument.

At which point, it is time to sever the tie and concede to their resistance to logic; and simply agree to disagree, and move on.

Realistically however, these rigidly narrow minded individuals do promote hatred, intolerance, and bigotry - and yes, pass those unsavory traits along to their offspring as well.

So, we must graciously concede their rights to their opinions, and their ignorance, as valid for themselves, but for themselves alone and pity the children who will learn and follow their negative ways in life.

Hateful talk, is hateful talk, no matter how many times you read it and try to find a different meaning in the words.

If someone annoys us with unreasonable attitudes, we may choose to simply exclude them from our lives, without prejudice.

There should be no need for apology to choose not to allow them any space in our life.

Agreeing to disagree amicably

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Rational conclusions

In defense of those with strong beliefs, it is perhaps best to not attempt to broach those beliefs with a different point of view.

That also must include not attacking those believers for attacking those that have an opposing belief system.

Often times adopting a "middle of the road" approach to diffuse a potentially volatile situation is necessary; if for no other reason than giving both parties the opportunity to walk away gracefully.

If both parties with strong beliefs are unable to discuss, or debate, calmly, logically, or rationally, it would be prudent to avoid a war by conceding to simply "agree to disagree".

And politely part ways without trying to put one another down, or make judgments, for having that disagreement.

by: d.william 02/26/2011

Note: this video may be offensive to Christians so please watch only if open minded.

Our constitution allows hate speeches with discretion

© 2011 d.william

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Stump Parrish 5 years ago from Don't have a clue, I'm lost.

The biggest concern I have with this type of non-thinker is that they feel they have the right to force all children to learn their point of view and no other. They feel they have the right to deny all Americans the opurtunity to make up their own minds about anything. They have the answer to any and all problems this country will face. All we have to do is pray and presto end of problem. For the most part they simply gave up the need to think rationally and demand all other people in this country cease having intelligent thoughts along with them. We used to teach people how to think and this country dominated the world. Today, those on the right lacking the ability to think critically are critical of those still capble of rational thought. We pander to the ignorant masses and the country is close to destruction. Those incapable of critical thought are nearing a super majority and at that point we will become the country formally known as the US of A. Any group of people who fight for the right to kill their own children with prayer healings instead of reliable medical care, have actually convinced themselves they are trhe last and best hope for this country. I know we are in bad shape but it cant get bad enough for me to state that southern baptists are the best and brightest this country has to offer. It's hard to ignore these people and all the harm they cause. There is no end to the list of people they need to dominate and persecute simply to feel better about their ignorance. I dont have a bit of problem calling an idiot an idiot. I am tired of homosexual haters and abortion doctor killers telling me I hurt their precious feelings. I will mention that I have discovered that it makes them just as mad if you make fun of them. Compare them to little spoiled kids and do it enough, they will begin to react the same as if you called them what they represent...brain washed, moronic, holier than thou, bigoted, racist, imbeciles. That concludes the PC list of names for the %$^*&&% &()&^% %#@@$^*U ^^*($^< heads we are discussing.

Peace, voted this up even thou I dont actually agree with you, lol. I do respect your ability to look at a problem and come up with an unscripted rational response. I do however still get some pleasure from watching people prove me right about their ignorance. It's even better when they dont realize it. I am begining to realize that these idiots are here for our viewing pleasure. Problem is that they keep breeding. Try a disciplined regiment of laughing at some of them and see if you dont enjoy the results./


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

d.william, the only place I disagree with you is you stopped with the Right Wing Nuts. There are just as many of this same type who live way Left of the line. The truth is there are nuts on both sides who spew their hate and venom on the rest of the world. I feel these are just sick individuals whom someone filled with hate and misguided ideas somewhere in their your lives. Even later in life some individuals get sucked into "hate groups" of one sort or another.

The best thing that could happen in our messed up political arena would be to drop the labels all together and just look at the issues. What action would result in the best outcome for the majority of Americans.

When you follow the various hubs, you will find equal numbers of hate mongers on both sides of the camp.These people are to be pitied more than scorned. They lead very shallow lives, and are missing much of what life has to offer.

A wise individual is always willing to at least listen to the other side of an argument. This is how we learn new ideas and perspectives. The best thing a parent can teach a child is to be open minded and to make the best decisions they can based on "all" of the information available to them. Lord knows I have had to change some opinions after learning new information.

I know you lean a little "left", and I lean a little "right". However I still enjoy reading your hubs and pay attention to the information you are presenting. This is how we learn. When I find those hubbers who only spew hate and are not open to any discussion of ideas or principals, I just put them on ignore and never read their work again. Life is a give and take thing, and seldom is anyone 100% right or 100% wrong.

I always enjoy reading your hubs even though I don't always agree with you. I would enjoy sitting across a table from you and discussing many of the issues we differ on. I'll bet we could both learn a great deal and might even change an opinion or two.

Keep on hubbing my friend.


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Blair Rockefeller 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

SP's responce was as bad as the people you are talking about. OP' response was resonable without hatred and name calling. As a christian I choose not to read hubs on christianity. I have a pastor I listen to, and I watch Joel Osteen every week. Joel only speaks words of encouragement and love. And since God is Love.

he is what we need to hear. Those that look at there blogs here as a way to save the world, as their ministry, I find I'drather not listen to. I don't care to hear another sermon. They have the right to post, but I have the right to choose not to even read what they write. God has a different path for each of us.I need to work on mine, not anyone elses. The parable of the goats and sheep tells us to feed the hungry, take care of the widow and the children, visit those in Prison, and take care of the forgiener in our land. In other words, help other. That is what I choose to do. I won't blow my own horn other than to say that I do some of these things.


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breakfastpop 5 years ago

I welcome different opinions as long as they are presented in a civil manner. Your advice is very sound.


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b. Malin 5 years ago

You are right to stop following people who make you uncomfortable...I have done that myself. The reason can also be not much in common, doesn't interest me in what they constantly write about, etc. However, I still like to read Left, or Right, some I agree, some I very much disagree with, but I make my Own opinions heard, as nicely as I can.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thank you so much for reading and your comments. And i will certainly take to heart your suggestion to learn to laugh at the comments instead of finding them repulsive. You certainly know exactly how to "tell it like it is".


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for you comments. And although you may be correct in your evaluation of there being 'wing nuts', both left and right, this article was specifically addressing a hubber who is radically right wing, and lately on the news those are the ones with the most prominent mouths. This article is not a political statement, but rather addressing attitudes that are unrealistically stupefacient.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for reading and commenting. but as i told Old Poolman above, this article is not about religious or political views. Only the radical factor that is unable to have an intelligent conversation with anyone who disagrees with their personal points of view. I can appreciate your reluctance to listen to anything, or read anything, that might taint your personal beliefs. Perhaps if you read my new article, entitled: "Organized Religion is the Enemy of Spiritual Growth", you might just find that there are other viable points of view after all, without negating anyone's core beliefs. After all, we ARE in a new age era, whether anyone wants to face it or not. Again thank you for taking the time to read and comment.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thank you for your comment of support. Greatly appreciated. dw


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always exploring 5 years ago from Southern Illinois

I agree with you, some people you just have to 'let go, not because they think differently, but because they hate so badly and spew their evil , never thinking they could be hurting someone. Great hub. Thank you.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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thank you for reading, commenting and your kind support.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for reading and commenting. When i posted this i did not think it was that controversial. I am surprised it got so much attention. Thanks for your input. Although i did not specify who i was talking about, i suspect that these commenters knew who i meant. Oh, well, you are right and i am not sorry i chose to stop following her.


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sweetie1 5 years ago from India

Hi d.willian,

You are absolutely right when you say that free speach donot give us right to send abuses on someone who you donot agree or start calling them names. The beauty of blogging be it here or any where else is that people share views and they can be as different as chalk and cheese and we should respect everyone views even if we donot agree to that view


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Hi sweetie1. thanks for stopping by and reading. You comments are always appreciated. dw


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kashmir56 5 years ago from Massachusetts

I agree with you d.william, we should not have to tolerate any kind of abuses here on Hubpages .

Awesome hub !!!


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for reading and your words of support.


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains

There are some points in Christianity I won't bend on, I will debate till the cows come home, but I pray I voice such with fairness, listening and an aire of Christian love. I try anyway.

- Harlan


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crystolite 5 years ago from Houston TX

Since your have decided not follow some hubbers,its cool because i believe you what is right for you.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thank you so much for reading and commenting. Although this article has nothing to do with Christianity, it is rather ironic that you should focus on this particular subject. You might be interested in reading my new hub i will be publishing this morning. Read it with an open mind, and open heart, and garner what you will from it, but most of all please speak with your personal Creator for guidance. Thanks again for reading. dw


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for reading and commenting. Thanks for your support.


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BobbiRant 5 years ago from New York

We all have the right to follow the people we choose to follow. Sometimes I quit following if the person has been gone a very long time and I think they may not be back, I quit. Good hub.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for reading and commenting. When someone starts following you, you get an email telling you that they are following. I wonder, if you quit following, if they are also notified of that? Does anyone know this answer?


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Winsome 5 years ago from Southern California by way of Texas

Hi D, I enjoyed the article and the answer to your question is no, you don't get an email. I think the least quitters should do is send a polite Dear John letter. "We've had a good run but I thing it's time that we should see other hubbers. No one is to blame here, we have just grown apart and I wish you all the best."

Or something like that. =:)


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lemmyC 5 years ago from UK

Thank you! I think it's good to apply the four way test used by the Rotarians. I find it useful. The four way test of the things we think, say or do.

Is it the truth?

Is it fair to all concerned?

ill it bring good will and better friendship?

Is it beneficial to all concerned?

Words can hurt, and they are powerful with great consequence: whether written or spoken.


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thank you for reading and commenting. Thanks for the support. I feel much better about it now. I guess i had a slight case of the guilts, but like a slight case of the flu, one gets over it. Good advice about the four way test. Thanks.


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create a page 5 years ago from Maryland, USA

I appreciate your honesty d. william. Perhaps that's what I really like about you. I have chosen to follow you, and I hope I will not offend you so much that you will think of deleting me. If you ever consider it, please send me a private note first so I can try to make things right first, okay?


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for reading and your kind comments. And, not to worry, i have read some of your articles and i do not think you could ever offend me. Your writing reflects a goodness of heart, purity of soul, and are actually pleasant readings.


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create a page 5 years ago from Maryland, USA

D.william thank you so much for your kind remarks. I think you have given me the best complement I have ever received on hubpages. Thanks again.


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Dim Flaxenwick 5 years ago from Great Britain

l found his hub, amongst other things to be just what I needed to read. I realise i´m far too sensitive.

I deplore hateful talk, and loved your last line ...If someone annoys you dump them.

Thanks for helping me ., here.

Just while I´m here I´m always curious of WHY anyone becomes my follower.???


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Winsome 5 years ago from Southern California by way of Texas

DF it's because you are so adorable. =:)


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for reading and commenting. After reading your comment i took some time to read some of you hubs. You have a unique style of writing, very entertaining and well written. I can not imagine anyone NOT following you. I will be back to read more. dw


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RunAbstract 5 years ago from USA

Very well put!

I too have been the target of hurtful and insulting exchanges with certain other Hubbers, and I too stopped following them.

I even had an experience where I felt "ganged up on" by a few Hubbers because of my comments.

Oh well...

Like you I welcome other points of views when logic and and common consideration are applied. But for all the closed minded who know more than anyone else... Alll I can say is "Bump it on down".

I can't possibly agree with EVERYONE. And not everyone can possibly agree with ME. But to become nasty, insulting, or hurtful is beyond rude. It shows a lack of charater. So why waste the time?

I have shaken the dust off my feet, so to speak with a few other Hubbers myself!


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thank you so much for reading and your comments of encouragement.. I especially liked your comment "Bump it on down" - right on target and amusing. I never heard that one before.

Thank goodness, even with my totally controversial topics, i have had only one that i needed to discard.


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sunflowerbucky 5 years ago from Small Town, USA

It's amazing how few people are able to engage in an intelligent debate without reorting to just plain ignorance. I only follow people who's writing I truly enjoy to read. I think a lot of people just start "following" anyone and everyone in the hopes that they in turn will follow them. People are very brave on the internet and will say rude and horrible things that they would never dream of saying in person. One thing I always tell my kids that I think all bloggers should heed, "Mean what you say but don't be mean saying it."


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for reading and your comments. You are correct in your assessments. I especially like your last comment: Mean what you say...But i would add this to that: "Mean what you say, say what you mean, but don't be mean saying it."


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clark farley 5 years ago

Good Hub Good Comments

There is something special about the internet, this difference is significant enough that I am willing to propose that it actually changes the fundamentals of the 'social contract'; the rules of the relationships we form with everyone one interact act with on a daily basis.

One of the differences 'in here' (the web in general and blogosphere specifically) is that everyone can present themselves as an authority on any topic provided they have the confidence and/or ego to claim it. This amounts to implied permission (for all of us) to make claims and statements, present theories and beliefs, criticize and castigate to an audience of anyone willing to listen. Don't need to present no credentials, just type away! Total equality appears to be the default mode of the internet.

You are who (and what) you say(and type) that you are, unless and until proven otherwise.

How cool is that? ( A more skilled writer would stick in some old chestnut like, 'better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt...' to perhaps bolster their credentials.

And right there is the 'difference' in social contract that I started this Comment alluding to...no matter what you say and write in this virtual Town Green, it is up to me(the Listener/Reader) to believe/trust/dislike/like what you are saying.

Think about the situations in the 'real world' where opinions are offered, theories are expounded upon; in school and churchs, Town Halls and hospitals; your power and choices in determining your relationship to these people is not so simple. There are other people, groups and authority figures who will literally and figuratively be saying, "You must believe me", You can't believe them", "Don't you agree that, we must silence those others".

'In here' I have a keyboard, I have the power and the responsibility to turn on a speaker and to turn off a speaker.

It is not their fault if what they say offends me, it is my responsibility.

or something like that....hey I have a blog site that you will really, really like/hate/love/want to ban, just head over to the Wakefield Doct....never mind, if you want to hear me go on and on, you can go there or you can click me away... 'I fluoresce, therefore I am'...

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