Why I'm Supporting Bernie Sanders

"He is the man of the people. He has to be, his name is Bernie." ~ Sarah Silverman

Like many Americans, I've become disillusioned with the political process in this country.

We all know that the two-party system is essentially a sham, and that the presidential nominees are sponsored by the same corporations, which means they represent the interests of the same corporations, and their views - however polar opposite they may appear, are actually the same in that they do not address the status quo. When the CEO of Goldman Sachs says that he’d be just fine with either Bush or Clinton, what does it tell you?

The last time I was hopeful about the presidential race was in 2008 - the Obama/McCain election. It was exciting to witness the first African American be elected president, especially on the platform of Change. The euphoria evaporated once the outrageous $700 billion Wall Street bailout rolled in. The rest of his time in office Obama dedicated to moderate to negligent upgrades to the broken economy, passing a bulky healthcare bill, and fighting off rabid political opponents. And racism, I'm sure.

So I decided: I'm done with this bulls**t. I'm too jaded to even vote, never mind to actually believe in another candidate. Enter Bernie Sanders.

It's really plain to see why Bernie Sanders is winning the hearts and minds of Democrats and even (some) Republicans.
It's really plain to see why Bernie Sanders is winning the hearts and minds of Democrats and even (some) Republicans. | Source

What's Different About Bernie Sanders?

Everything. He's a socialist. He's Jewish. He won't attack his opponents. He doesn't take money from the corporations. He won't comb his hair.

But most importantly, out of all the candidates he strikes me as a completely sincere person. It's a strange thing to say about a politician but it's true. And if enough people recognize it, he has a strong chance to win the election.

He is also the only candidate addressing the real issues: income inequality, renewable energy, criminal justice reform, raising the minimum wage...Not in a populist fashion, but as someone who've been fighting to protect the interests of the American people for decades, and who still has a lot of fight in him.

Bernie Sanders' supporters in LA. August 2015
Bernie Sanders' supporters in LA. August 2015 | Source

Why Do Americans Keep Voting Against Their Own Interests?

“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” ~ John Steinbeck

Steinbeck is right, as usual. The trouble with America is, everyone wants to be rich, and they vote as if they already are.

It is common knowledge that policies of the Republican party favor the wealthy elite, yet millions of working class, low and middle income Americans continue to support them. What gives? Personally, I blame Fox News. The conservatives learned how to use fear and white Christian bias against Muslims, gays and atheists in their favor, manipulating the people into believing that they're voting for their "values," when in fact they're voting against their own interests. The Democratic party is better, but far too often both parties fail to represent the American working class.

Bernie Sanders speaking at the Los Angeles Rally.
Bernie Sanders speaking at the Los Angeles Rally. | Source

What Democratic Socialism Really Means

As a self-described democratic socialist, Sanders basically advocates for a more egalitarian society, one where all people have healthcare as a right of citizenship, childcare, affordable housing and free higher education.

Now, about the "s-word"... I grew up in post-Soviet Russia when communism (along with its little brother socialism) was completely discredited and millions of people, especially young people, became disillusioned and disenfranchised. But I'll tell you a little secret: that wasn't communism, or socialism for that matter. What we had in Russia was a dictatorial semi-fascist regime with a stagnant economy and internal strife.

One has to be an idiot to compare the so-called socialist regimes in Soviet Russia, China, North Korea to Bernie Sanders' concept of "Democratic Socialism". He simply proposes what every other developed nation on earth has already embraced decades ago, things like free college education, affordable healthcare, social security, paid vacation and family leave, fair wages etc. Does that sound radical or progressive? I think it's just common sense.

Modern socialism isn't about gulags or forceful re-distribution of wealth; it's about economic and political justice, what Bernie calls "economic democracy". Don't forget - re-distribution of wealth already happened when the richest 10-20% took some more from the poor and became the richest 1%. We need to give that money back to the people before our economic system collapses entirely under the weight of corporate greed.

Some People Say That Bernie Sanders Doesn't Have a Chance. Is This True?

Not true. Sure, Sanders is either ignored or marginalized by the press, but he has a lot more grassroots support than any candidate out there, and many more Americans are starting to "feel the Bern".

A never-ending line of people stand outside the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, waiting to see Bernie Sanders speak. August 10, 2015
A never-ending line of people stand outside the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, waiting to see Bernie Sanders speak. August 10, 2015 | Source

To those who say that he is too old - so is the Emperor of Japan. Reagan was 74 when he got re-elected. Churchill was 71 at the end of the WWII. Sanders is very energetic and intellectually active for his age (73), so don't get hung up on a number.

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The momentum now is nothing short of extraordinary. Sanders comes out on top in almost every major poll. That's because most Americans actually agree with Bernie on key issues like economic policies, debt-free education, affordable healthcare, expanding Social Security, breaking up the big banks, fair trade that “protects workers, the environment and jobs" etc.

Anyone - anyone - who's not a millionaire with offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands should listen to what he has to say. He is the only candidate who's looking out for the interests of real Americans. As Professor Cornel West said, "Now is the time for [Sanders'] prophetic voice to be heard across our crisis-ridden country."

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bradmasterOCcal 15 months ago from Orange County California

I am sorry but I don't see anything that will change the current system.

The root cause of the wealth distribution is the Income Tax System with its Internal Revenue Code that can only be used by the wealthy.

Both parties have supported this system, and neither party intends to get rid of it.

A National Sales Tax that would replace , I mean Replace the Income Tax and the IRC which would be similar to what the states are already doing.

It wouldn't include FICA, and it should be between 10 and 15%, and any deficit should be in the reduction of government spending, and a reduction in the size and scope of the government .

FICA is socialism existing as a TAX, it only applies to Wage Earners, and that is not how the wealthy make their money. SS is a Ponzi scheme as it requires new blood to be solvent. The old blood is retiring en masse, and the new blood is too young to pay FICA.

Both of these systems should have been privately managed and administered, and no run by the government. The SS trust fund should have been invested better, and not at the disposal of congress borrowing from it. SS contributions must be paid as long as you earn a wage. This could be fifty to sixty years. A 401K with the same 12% contribution would be a better return on your investment, and unlike SS it is earmarked for you, and whenever you leave you get what you earned, and not some calculation made by the SS Admin.

I don't see anyone coming up with these ideas, and until these are changed it doesn't matter who is president.

So how does Bernie solve these problems? He doesn't.


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billybuc 15 months ago from Olympia, WA

I've like Sanders for years. I was actually hoping he would run eight years ago...anyway, I'm behind him all the way.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

bradmaster, I am not as familiar with the specifics of FICA as you are so I cannot comment on that. I support Sanders because he is the only candidate who's addressing the issue of the corporate oligarchy in America.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

Right on, Bill!


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Mel Carriere 15 months ago from San Diego California

Amen. I'm starting to feel the Bern myself. The fact that the mainstream Dems are now starting to attack him and dig up dirt indicates to me that he is for real, and they are scared.

I thought I would share this quote I read on Facebook today, which is only marginally on the subject but I thought it was good. It is attributed to Oscar Ameringer, whoever that is.

"Politics is the art by which politicians obtain campaign contributions from the rich and votes from the poor on the pretext of protecting each from the other."

The mainstream Dems are taking contributions from the rich on the pretext of protecting the poor, but they only pay lip service to this idea. Hopefully Bernie will shake things up and make some real changes. Even if he doesn't get the nomination his opponents are going to forced to adopt components of his platform. Hillary already is.

Great hub!


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bradmasterOCcal 15 months ago from Orange County California

Kalinin

If you earn a wage, FICA is your Social Security, and Medicare TAX contributions.

Going after corporations is the job of congress , and not the president.

Neither is my point about the obese size, and scope of the US government.

Another very important issue is income tax, and how it is making the middle class poor while allowing the rich to become multi-billionaire.

Focusing on corporations would make your choice of Sander, a one trick pony. A single issue.

I don't see Sanders helping the middle class, so how do you see him helping them.


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Chantelle Porter 15 months ago from Chicago

I thought you did a fantastic job with this hub. I, too, love Bernie. When will America wake up? Enough with corporate control of the US. We need someone who will help strengthen the middle class and give a hand up to the poor.


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Larry Rankin 15 months ago from Oklahoma

I like Hillary, but I also like Bernie. Essentially if we just make the ultra wealthy pay taxes like the rest of us, almost all our problems will go away. I really think Bernie would get that part done.

As for the socialist part, it is a balancing act. Socialism and capitalism are both wonderful things. As a liberal, I am for a few more socialist structures than most conservatives. I think Bernie would do a good job with the equilibrium.

Most of all, when I see him I think, like you said, sincerity. My biggest fear with him would be that he'd muddy the voting waters in such a way that it would allow an ultra conservative to sneak in, and that would mean death for the rest of us.

Still undecided, but a wonderful article.


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

I always look to Sarah Silverman for political guidance.

In the classic words of Homer Simpson: "Hollywood celebrities! Is there anything they don't know?"


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

"The momentum now is nothing short of extraordinary. Sanders comes out on top in almost every major poll. "

The link you provided contradicts your assertion. Hilary still leads all the major polls, if there is such a thing as a 'major' poll.


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

"And racism, I'm sure."

Don't forget the Bush Administration! Everything is their fault. And the media! And the Trilateral Commission. And Big Oil.


JohnsonHD 15 months ago

Bernie is a likable guy and I hope to heck that wins the Democratic Ticket. I just wish he were more hardcore. We don't need watered down socialism; we need true Communism, which is what he really stands for, but knows he cannot say out loud.

Thanks Ronnie Reagan for giving Communism a bad name!


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

JohnsonHD , I hope he wins the Dem nomination too.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

Nicomp, this is confusing. You hope Sanders wins the Dem nomination so... You just didn't like my article? Or you think that Sanders will be easier to beat? In any case, thank you for your input. The link I provided shows a trend; Sanders' numbers are doubling while Clinton's are dwindling. There are other polls that show that Sanders performs as well or better in swing states.

And I hope you're not suggesting that I support Bernie Sanders because Sarah Silverman does. Her quote was funny, so what's wrong with that?

Overall, I think arguing about political views is like arguing about tastes, so Im not sure what your goal is here. I did enjoy your Simpsons quote though.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

Larry, I share your concern but for the life of me, I can't imagine Hillary Clinton doing anything different, or anything that would suggest she cares about the people. I don't care about her email scandals but look at her voting record...look at the list of her main donors...I just can't support that.


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

"Or you think that Sanders will be easier to beat? "

Yep. Sanders can't win a general election. But, we did say that about Barack Hussein Obama, so...

"Sanders' numbers are doubling while Clinton's are dwindling."

Hillary is still ahead. Sanders isn't doubling, just gaining. He's not even the most popular candidate in the Democrat primary race, which isn't even his own party, BTW.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

Thank you Chantelle! I really hope people will start looking out for their own best interests, not ideological agendas.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

Nicomp, "Bernie Sanders' favorable rating among Americans has doubled since Gallup's initial reading in March, rising to 24% from 12% as he has become better known."

He's a democratic socialist. Close enough :)


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

Mel, you're absolutely right. Even if he doesn't get the nomination, the revolution has already started. Who would have thought that a candidate who self identifies as a socialist could gain such popularity in America?

The quote summarizes the political game beautifully. And it seems like Bernie is the only one not playing it. Oh who am I kidding? I will be heartbroken if he doesn't get the nomination.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

JohnsonHD, I blame the Russians! To this day when you mention Communism people think: gulags. But I hope he gets the ticket, too.


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

" I will be heartbroken if he doesn't get the nomination."

He doesn't have to win: you can give the government all your stuff right now. Go live in public housing. Apply for food stamps, welfare, WIC, and medicaid. Sign up for an ObamaPhone. Ride public transportation everywhere.


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bradmasterOCcal 15 months ago from Orange County California

I think that the thread has come to an end.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

That's a rather simplistic understanding of socialism, don't you think?


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Mel Carriere 15 months ago from San Diego California

I think a lot of people denigrating Bernie here Svetlana don't understand how most of our billionaires got rich. They don't read history, or they ignore the parts that don't fit into their intellectual model. In the classic sense, billionaires are worse socialists than we, the greedy, entitled masses are. They get rich and stay rich by paying off lobbyists to get them free public property from the government. Look at the recent bank bailouts. Look at auto companies getting bailed out by the government. Look at the robber baron railroad men in the 19th century who took enormous grants of land from the government. It goes on and on. The public never gets repaid for this largesse, but gets gouged instead. All Bernie wants to do is to take some of this back and put it into the hands of the people it belongs to.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

bradmaster, I don't think your comments were even related to what I wrote in the article. Ok, you don't think Bernie Sanders can help the middle class. But his entire platform is built on lifting people out of poverty by raising taxes on wealthiest individuals and large corporations, and raising minimal wage for the American workers.

Quote: "And yes, those folks and large corporations will have to pay under a Sanders administration more in taxes so that we can use that revenue to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, create the jobs we need, make sure that every kid who has the ability is able to get a college education in America because public colleges and public universities will be tuition-free."

Look at his congressional record...Look at his voting record in the Senate. While Republicans were fighting Obamacare and ruining the economy, Sanders, albeit unsuccessfully, was trying to raise the minimal wage and abolish tax breaks for the rich and to close tax loopholes for “the most profitable corporations.” That's why I'm supporting Sanders. From your comments I still don't know who you're supporting bradmaster, and for what reason.


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

"I think a lot of people denigrating Bernie here Svetlana don't understand how most of our billionaires got rich."

Obviously your goal is to engender class envy. Anyway, be sure to help us understand how most poor people got poor.


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

Looks like my recent comments were deleted. No worries. It's your sandbox!


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Larry Rankin 15 months ago from Oklahoma

Really liked Mel's comments. I'm not sure if I'm voting Bernie yet or not, but I know I like the man.

Like Mel said, billionaires are the worst kind of socialists, because they're the type that don't share. Government money is all for them. Kind of defeats the purpose, really.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

nicomp, rest assured I didn't delete any of your comments. Feel free to enlighten us with more of your nonsense.


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

"Like Mel said, billionaires are the worst kind of socialists, because they're the type that don't share."

Hate the rich! It's much easier than bettering yourself. Sit home and stew.


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

"nicomp, rest assured I didn't delete any of your comments. Feel free to enlighten us with more of your nonsense."

You stick with me: I'll teach you the beauty of the free market. It's fruitless to hate the rich. Remember that the average household wealth (not income) worldwide is $$20,500 . If we redistribute all the wealth your household will have... $20,500 .


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Mel Carriere 15 months ago from San Diego California

Stick with me nicomp, I'll teach you the folly of being an unpaid lap dog cheerleader for billionaires who don't give a damn about you. Now this time I'm really going to shut up.


JohnsonHD 15 months ago

Mel,

Your statement could be interpreted as pro-republican or pro-democrat. They are both bought and paid for by capitalists. We'll see what Sanders is made of if he gets the Dem ticket.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

Well, good. Bernie actually has supporters among conservatives and libertarians. I think he is more bipartisan than any other Dem nominee. And if Republicans gave a damn about the people, they would turn that sizzling hatred for entitlements on their billionaire friends.


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nicomp 15 months ago from Ohio, USA

"Stick with me nicomp, I'll teach you the folly of being an unpaid lap dog cheerleader for billionaires who don't give a damn about you"

Now we're making progress. You are working from a false assumption. Billionaires are not supposed to care about me.

By the way, how many billionaires do you know? I know two and they are great people. I suggest you go out and meet some before hating on them.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

nicomp, I'm tired of you now. Clearly, this discussion is going nowhere. I won't approve any more of your comments, so don't bother responding. I hope you and your billionaire buddies have a grand old time together. Maybe you'll find some Nazis to hang out with you, too.


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Mel Carriere 15 months ago from San Diego California

They care about you as much as you are potential cannon fodder nicomp. I'm sure you are on hub pages like me because trickle down has set you up really nice. And quit quoting me. That's annoying.


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kalinin1158 15 months ago from California Author

It's funny...whenever I write a political article, there's always someone who uses it not as a public forum for exchanging ideas but as an opportunity to broadcast their hostile political agenda with no consideration or respect for alternative points of view. I welcome different opinions, and I take it as a compliment when something I wrote inspires a genuine reaction, but only when it's expressed in a respectful manner.

So yeah, I stopped approving nicomp's comments even though it's against my beliefs. In fact, it may be the first time I did that in my 6 years on HP. He then threatened to write a hub about our exchange. To quote one of my favorite fictional characters, "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn."


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jackclee lm 14 months ago from Yorktown NY

As you, I have come to the conclusion that both parties are controlled by the same people. I agree with some of Bernie's complaints of the current system but I disagree with his solutions. I believe Conservatism is the answer and the problem with current system is crony Capitalism at its worst. The solution is to level the playing field and let the individual reach his or her potential. As demonstrated recently by Greece, socialism will fail. Sooner or later, they will run out of other people's money...


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kalinin1158 14 months ago from California Author

Jack, thank you for your comment. Greece is often used as an example of a socialist economy that's failed, but in my opinion it's a more complex issue. Grecian economic crisis had more to do with issues of corruption, irresponsible lending and the design of the euro zone itself that prevents individual countries from adjusting to economic conditions.

I don't believe for a second that it was socialism that ruined Greece. Many socialist countries in Europe are economically prosperous because they dealt with economic inequality. So I agree with you that we have to level the playing field. The U.S., on the other hand, only has Socialism for corporations in the form of bailouts, tax cuts, outsourcing labor etc.


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Farawaytree 11 months ago from California

"He won't comb his hair"! I love that one. Yes, love all your points especially about Russia and socialism (something you would know ;))

I come from Canada and get the occasional comment from Americans asking me about socialism in my home country.

It is not socialism that kills the prosperity of any given country, it's economic inequality and, of course, other issues and policies that are not functioning well.

At this point, honestly, I don't see why many people in this country are so afraid to try something new - such as a Bernie Sanders - since almost everyone I have contact with is frustrated and angry with the current state of affairs.


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kalinin1158 11 months ago from California Author

Thank you Michelle! Yeah, socialism gets a bad rap, but in my experience, it's mostly because people have misconceptions about it due to political bias against socialism in this country.

Considering the options (Jeb...Hillary....ughm... Trump) Bernie Sanders definitely stands out, and he's the only one who offers real reform. Thanks for stopping by!


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jackclee lm 11 months ago from Yorktown NY

How about Ben Carson? A Christian conservative Washington outsider with real experiences in life.


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kalinin1158 11 months ago from California Author

Ben Carson...Where do I begin... Actually, you perfectly summed up my objections to Ben Carson's candidacy: A Christian conservative Washington outsider with no real political experience. Must I say more? :-)


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nicomp 11 months ago from Ohio, USA

I love hypocrites like Bernie and I hope he gets the nomination. Any warm body put up by the Republicans would enjoy a clear path to the White House.


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jackclee lm 11 months ago from Yorktown NY

Yes, but what has Political insiders done in the past 7 years?


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kalinin1158 11 months ago from California Author

I agree that political experience isn't everything. But I'm still team Sanders :-) thanks for stopping by, Jack!


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kalinin1158 11 months ago from California Author

Not taking the bait nicomp but thanks for stopping by!


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nicomp 11 months ago from Ohio, USA

@jackclee lm : Bernie is a Political insider. And a hypocrite. He's been in politics since 1981.


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nicomp 11 months ago from Ohio, USA

@kalinin1158 : Don't let facts get in the way of your opinion!


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kalinin1158 11 months ago from California Author

Name calling is not the same as a fact, nicomp. But thanks again for stopping by and continuing to bless me with your insightful comments.


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Virginia Allain 10 months ago from Central Florida

Thanks for raising awareness of Senator Sanders campaign. He's a remarkable person who is politically savvy and intensely focused on making life better for the average American.

nicomp - you call Bernie a "political insider" which is not accurate. Yes, he has been a mayor, a US Representative and a US Senator but never before as part of the Democratic or Republican parties. He has always been a champion of the people, not part of the entrenched beliefs and the corruption that comes from billionaires, lobbyists and corporations telling congress what to do.


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nicomp 10 months ago from Ohio, USA

kalinin1158 , it's my pleasure. If you believe 'political insider' is name-calling, then you badly need my insight.


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nicomp 10 months ago from Ohio, USA

Virginia Allain , keep drinking that kool-aid! Bernie is a Democrat regardless of what he calls himself. Yikes, he's running for the Democrat party nomination. If he was a true 'independent' he'd be running for President as such. He exhibits no 'independent' behavior whatsoever in Congress.

You think he's not entrenched with the billionaires? Peruse his top campaign contributors: http://votesmart.org/candidate/campaign-finance/27... . Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc.


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Virginia Allain 10 months ago from Central Florida

Bernie's average contribution is $27. He has over 2 million individuals donating.

Watch his 8-hour speech challenging Greenspan well before the 2008 economic meltdown. Look at how much the Republicans, Democratic National Committee and the media have tried to keep him quiet to shut him out of the election.

Nicomp - I don't believe that site. If he was getting that kind of money from that kind of donors, you had better believe that Hi!!ary C!inton would be throwing it in his face at the debates. She is resorting to every sneaky trick she can to regain her lead in the polls.

So, who are you campaigning for?


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kalinin1158 10 months ago from California Author

Nicomp, I was referring to you calling Bernie a hypocrite, obviously. But you've got to put a spin on things, don't you? That's the only way you can make your argument make sense. I think you're wasting your talents here on HP. Big politics is calling your name, my friend.


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nicomp 10 months ago from Ohio, USA

@kalinin1158 If you have a preferred 'name' for a sentient human who advocates one position while behaving counter, please grace us.

Thank you for your kind words, but I suspect I have reached my level of incompetence herein. Anyway, providing folks such as yourself with much-needed clarity takes up very little of my time.


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nicomp 10 months ago from Ohio, USA

"Nicomp - I don't believe that site. If he was getting that kind of money from that kind of donors, you had better believe that Hi!!ary C!inton would be throwing it in his face at the debates."

Sure! They made up contributors for all the folks in Congress. Hillary can't broach the topic because she lives in the pocket of Big Business and foreign governments. Have you researched the financial structure of The Clinton Foundation?

"Watch his 8-hour speech challenging Greenspan well before the 2008 economic meltdown. "

So you must be a fan of Rand Paul as well, right? No one blusters like Dr. Paul.


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kalinin1158 10 months ago from California Author

Virginia - thank you for your thoughtful educated comments. I absolutely agree with you that if he was getting big money from the corporations, this kind of dirt would not go unnoticed by his opponents. He built his reputation on crusading against corporate takeover of America, he would not be risking it by taking campaign contributions from them, and he's just not that kind of person. I believe he's sincere at every turn, and I've never said that about any politician before.

As for nicomp, I think he's a lost cause. He's just not interested in entertaining another point of view, only in broadcasting his own, quite condescendingly I might add. And he completely evaded your question, for obvious reasons...


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kalinin1158 10 months ago from California Author

Nicomp, even if your true intent here is to educate poor naive shucks like me, as you claim, you deliver your messages in such a way that it cannot be received with anything but resentment. Try framing your arguments in a respectful manner, maybe then we can have a civilized discussion.

Until then...ta-ta


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nicomp 10 months ago from Ohio, USA

@kalinin1158 : don't blame the messenger for your umm... well...

If you were driving off a cliff and I yelled for you to stop would you ignore me because I hurt your feelings?


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kalinin1158 10 months ago from California Author

You're missing the point, nicomp. But that's OK. No hurt feelings.


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Ken Burgess 9 months ago from Florida

If nothing else Sanders has new ideas and isn't bought and paid for by foreign or corporate parties that care nothing for the USofA.

If being the biggest liar in politics, and being in the back pocket of China, and being willing to sell out our country to foreign and corporate interests makes a person qualified to be POTUS... then Hillary is the most qualified candidate to run during my lifetime.

But for those who want to see this country become prosperous again and a place where our children can look forward to a better life than we had... Hillary is not an option, no matter who the opponent is, because there is no one worse running.


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Virginia Allain 9 months ago from Central Florida

It sounds like you're leaning towards Sanders, Ken Burgess. His new ideas are pretty common in other advanced countries around the world. Many try to make him look radical, but there are an enormous number of voters who think it makes sense to have universal healthcare, etc.

I'm a huge fan of Bernie's policies.


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nicomp 9 months ago from Ohio, USA

" but there are an enormous number of voters who think it makes sense to have universal healthcare, etc."

An enormous number of voters elected Obama, so there isn't necessarily intelligence in numbers.


RdMd 9 months ago

Bernie is like Honest Abe working the crowd from the stump. His message resonates because of the relocation of American manufacturing overseas and the long insecure "jobless" recovery and costs of our systems that favor Insurance and Banking industries over the public. He offers a rebuke to the Koch cash machine and antidote to the current pendulum swing to the far right and international corporate priorities over the environment.

The effect on the economy and extent of capital flight or destruction by markets after disrupting several industries is unclear to me. There will be benefits of efficiency, and reduced premiums, we hope. His opponents actions have created the desire for honesty, sincerity, and real progressive representation against the conservative march to remodel US worker's rights and benefits after China's in the name of profit and "jobs".


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jackclee lm 9 months ago from Yorktown NY

Nicomp, I created a hub recently on defining socialism for the millennials and in it, I have some amazing stats. comparing healthcare between US and UK and Canada. You should check it out and why universal healthcare is not for us.

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