Why it's easy to just say no to dope

Being allergic to cannabis

As a younger man I have had much experience, very good and very bad, of taking drugs but one very commonly used substance that I have found it very easy to say no to is cannabis in any form. For me personally it has produced some of the most horrible and embarrassing experiences ever and yet I know very many people enjoy its effects and seem just fine on it.

As a musician I have frequently had to work with other musicians who claim they need a joint to be at their best. When recording and rehearsing I have had had no option really, but to just hope that I wasn't affected by the smoke.

I got started experimenting with drugs at the tail end of the 60s and I admit that cannabis was one of the first illegal substances I ever used but it became more something I would smoke to try to fit in with my peers rather than for any pleasurable effects. It took me years to find out what being "stoned" was about.

The munchies

Art by Eldad Druks from CJ Stone's Last of the Hippies
Art by Eldad Druks from CJ Stone's Last of the Hippies

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Hallucinogenic drugs cause bad trips

You see, cannabis as resin or as bush/grass was a substance I could never count on. It either did nothing or it produced a horrible experience or one that was just plain weird and would be as strange as any experiences on LSD or other more potent hallucinogenic drugs.

Other times after smoking it I would find I would be making mistakes a lot or losing things. It never improved my life.

Part of my problem was that I kept seeing people enjoying smoking the substance as well as listening to all the reports of how harmless it was and how much healthier it was than many illegal drugs. As a younger man I admit I made efforts to try and be part of a group, even if that group was the alternative society or the hippies and their culture.

There were still things that you were expected to do to show you were such a person. Smoking dope was one such sign of being a hippy.

Cannabis always let me down though. It was like that song with the lyric: "Mama told me not to come, that ain't no way to have fun, son..." That was how it so often struck me and I regretted having smoked or eaten the substance.

I remember once I had been out on the town with some friends and was feeling great until I stupidly accepted a joint from a guy called Bruce. He had a habit of saying "Nice man, nice," to just about anything. Bruce smoked a lot of dope.

On the night in question I had just come out of a club and was about to go home when I ran into him. "Catch some of this," Bruce said, passing me a joint.

Being polite and sociable I accepted and took the joint from him and took a drag on it. As soon as I breathed it in I regretted having done so and as I fell backwards against a wall I had to put my hands and arms out to steady myself. At the same time I lost control of my bowels and I knew I had just shit my pants.

Bruce said: "Nice, man, nice," and it was anything but. I felt a total mess and then had a long walk home to contend with. When I finally got in and got my stinking dirty trousers off I was thinking "why me?"

This was a pattern I had to undergo time after time - saying to myself, why is it doing this to me and everyone else was fine? It took me many horrible experiences to finally say to myself: "Enough is enough, leave the stuff alone, Steve!"

Mama Told Me Not To Come (Live) by Three Dog Night

The Last of the Hippies

In my early twenties, I was mad about a young woman called Philippa and I would have done anything to impress her. As it was I did the very opposite. By that time in my life I had become someone who drank far too much, and also was addicted to barbiturates and other downers.

Philippa knew this and she said to me that I should leave these "bad drugs" alone and "smoke more draw, because it's good for you."

I knew the booze and downers were bad and, as I say I wanted to impress Philippa, and then at a party I thought I had my chance to. Cannabis oil was being smoked and someone passed me a joint of the stuff. Philippa was in the room and I was thinking that she will see me smoking this and think how sensible I am being listening to her advice.

Unfortunately what happened next convinced her I was anything but sensible. I got a ravenous attack of the "munchies" and went into the kitchen where I spied a box of cornflakes.There is actually a brilliant illustration of this incident by Eldad Druks in CJ Stone's Last of the Hippies.

I had my shirt unbuttoned and a very hairy chest and I also had a full beard at the time. As I started cramming the dry cereal flakes into my mouth some of them fell and landed in my beard and chest hair.

As they did so I had a crazy thought, although it made perfect sense to me at the time. I thought that the reason I had so much bodily hair was so I could store food in it and so it could keep me warm. I had read reports of how an ice age was supposed to be happening, and I connected my hairiness and observation with this idea.

I thought that just like a hamster can store food in its cheek pouches or a squirrel can hide nuts under the soil, I could store my food in the hair of my body, which would also help protect me from the cold weather. It was a major realisation and I went back in the other room to share my discovery.

The problem was that no one wanted to know or appeared to understand but were more interested in the records or rolling another joint or snogging one another. I took my shirt off to show them how the cereal could be stored in my chest hair. It was at this point that people were leaving the rooom and showing signs they thought I was crazy.

Eventually, totally depressed about how my realisation had gone down with people at the party I left and feeling demoralised and having a long way to walk home decided I would sleep in the park instead. I ended up crashing out under some bushes down a grassy bank by the lake.

In the morning, I brushed myself down and headed up onto the main road above only to see Philippa, who lived in the area, coming down the road towards me, hand in hand with a guy called Simon.

"Oh my God," she said, "I told you that smoking draw was good for you but I was wrong. If you ever take acid I don't want to be in the same town as you." You can imagine how I felt!

Good dope

I used to live in the same house as a friend called Adrian and he found dope very unpredictable too but one day we both shared a really pleasurable experience on the stuff. On the day in question, I was out with him in his car when I discovered a small lump of Morroccan resin in some silver paper in the back pocket of my jeans. A friend had given me it saying it wasn't very good dope but I might get a smoke or two out of it. I had forgotten all about it to the degree that the jeans had actually been washed and dried since I had put the stuff in my pocket.

I explained all this to Adrian but he thought we might as well smoke it anyway and so we rolled a joint and did so. In a short time we were both feeling really happy and the world was looking brighter and everything was looking really good. We both said how great we were feeling and realised that for once we had achieved what we had seen so many achieve in the past - we were happily stoned.

Adrian and I decided we must get more dope and did so but the next time we had a smoke nothing happened. It was a real disappointment and we were back to square one having had a taste of what other people like about the substance so much.

On another two very memorable occasions I had overwhelming hallucinatory effects from cannabis. The first of these was when I had gone back with some friends to the flat of a couple who lived in the same part of town as I did. We had some beer and dope and people started "skinning up".

When I was passed the first joint I took just one toke, just one toke, and that was more than enough. I felt like I had left my body and was looking down on everyone and everything. I had a voice asking me why I had come back to somewhere else. At the same time I could see all my companions just acting normally - chatting, laughing, smoking and drinking and changing the records on the player.

Again I was asking myself how they could be doing all that? Then I was back in my body and then in and out and then it got even weirder. I thought I was talking to a friend of mine called Jude but then she wasn't in the room any longer. I asked a girl who was, where the young woman with the long blonde hair had gone, and she didn't know what I was talking about.

Then I saw a silver platter come out of a wall with a phone on it. Someone picked it up and said something into it. Then I saw a doctor come into the room and he said he was going to give me an injection and then everything would be OK.

LSD

Then he disappeared and I wanted to be sick. I managed to ask a friend of mine called Michael to help get me to the toilets and he did so. The walls and corridor were all moving about like it can go on LSD. I threw up and asked if I could have a bowl in case I was ill again.

I sat feeling really ill and every now and again I was sick into the bowl and then I felt better but it seemed to me I had been there for many hours. I turned to one of my hosts and apologised for my behaviour and said I was sorry for acting so badly for such a long time. He said "What do you mean, a long time? You haven't been here long!"

"Well, what time is it now?" I asked thinking it would be five or six in the morning at least. It was only 1.30 am. I didn't know what to say or make of that and asked Michael if he would help get me home.

On another occasion I was staying at my parents' house and had found a small amount of Lebanese dope in some silver foil. For some reason I thought I may as well eat it and it would maybe get me more in the mood for going out later on.

What happened was that first of all I got the "munchies" really badly and started making toast on the open coal-fire using a fork. My parents and sister were watching TV and it just looked as if I was very hungry.

But then the room started to look like as if I was tripping on acid and the fire was doing all sorts of strange things and then, as I became overwhelmed with the visual experience, I dropped the fork into the glowing coals and the toast caught fire.

I realised I was tripping and was also in a panic having just dropped the toast. One of my parents asked me what was the matter and if I had taken anything. By then they had discovered that I used drugs and my odd behaviour made them think that this was the problem and they were right.

I made my confession and my father asked if there was anything he could do to help and if a drink would make me feel any better. I said I just wanted fresh air and yes, please get me something strong to drink.

I ended up in the kitchen with the door wide open lying on the floor and looking over the doorstep. It was all swirling around and looked like galaxies forming and reforming. I couldn't move. All plans for going out were totally abandoned and I even felt like I was possibly dying.

I remember drinking whisky or some spirits that my father had in the house and then feeling disorientated but able to function a bit better. I said to my sister could she help me get up to my bedroom and stay with me a while. This she did, and I lay there feeling useless, helpless and just wanting to lose consciousness which eventually I did.

I once had a book on drugs with a list of all the commonly reported effects of cannabis and the rare ones too. Amongst the latter list were vomiting, hallucinations, depression, feelings of isolation, paranoia, agitation and disorientation. It seems to me that I have experienced most of the rare effects and very few of the good or common ones.

I have shared my problems with cannabis with my friend King Arthur Pendragon and he told me he does not get on well with the substance either. In fact, Arthur suggested that we are both "allergic to cannabis."

As a reason why I say no to it, that will have to do for me! And much as I love Bob Marley's work I would make a hopeless rastaman!

© 2009 Steve Andrews

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ledefensetech 7 years ago from Cape Girardeau, MO

It sounds like your body chemistry can only handle a bit of the ganj. What I don't get is, why keep doing it? You know how it's going to affect you and let's be honest, the guys selling this stuff on the streets aren't exactly pharmacists. That's probably why the "not so good stuff" worked just fine with you. I never partook because I saw the effects it had on my friends and I so did not want to end up like that. Still i hear you about being young and dumb. I was there once too. I never did anything that trippy to impress a girl, but I did some dumb things.

Good hub man, this is the kind of thing I wish I could have had my kids read at my last job. It would have done them a world of good.


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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Ledefensetech!

The reason I took years to stick with my decision to say no was mainly because I kept seeing other people enjoying the substance and I still do. Also I was surrounded by people who were dope-smokers and as a musician at a couple of points I had bands with musicians in the bands being stoners. I have friends now who smoke the stuff and I know a great music venue where most people smoke so it is difficult to stay away from it unless I quit being friends with people and quit bothering with music. I can, however, stick to not smoking or eating it myself and making an effort to stay away from the smoke and that is what I do do.

I don't know why I react so badly to it when I have been OK on stronger drugs like magic mushrooms. I have met a few people who also do not get on with cannabis though and some of these say it makes them paranoid. It has been another example for me of not being able to fit in. I just accept that fact and leave the dope to the dope-smokers knowing I cannot be one and not having any wish any longer to do so.


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ledefensetech 7 years ago from Cape Girardeau, MO

OK, that makes more sense now. I know a bit about how you feel. Since I was diagnosed with diabetes, I can't really have a night on the town anymore. While I do have a glass of wine occasionally, I pretty much stay away from the hard stuff. Still there is a benefit, alcoholism runs in my family and since I don't partake, I needn't worry about that anymore. Actually my parents set a pretty good example concerning alcohol, that coupled with a couple of bad experiences kept me from getting too bad about it.

Is it primarily a creativity thing? I have my doubts about that, but I've heard people claim it makes them more creative.


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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

"Is it primarily a creativity thing? I have my doubts about that, but I've heard people claim it makes them more creative."

I think most people smoke dope because it makes them feel good not for any inspiration. More potent hallucinogenic drugs like LSD are the usual ones for creativity and in the past many writers and artists used opium and absinthe. Some also used hashish resin. In fact if you look at people who have been called great artists, authors, poets and songwriters a lot of them got their inspiration from drugs.


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ledefensetech 7 years ago from Cape Girardeau, MO

Interesting. I'm not too sure about LSD. I've heard too many stories. Sure some of them are urban legends and some aren't but it's not easy telling the difference.


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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Well if you think of famous rock stars and singer-songwriters who have been reported to have used LSD it's a long list of impressive names: John Lennon and the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys, Jimi Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, David Bowie, Donovan, Cat Stevens, Syd Barrett formerly of Pink Floyd, to name some.


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Susana S 7 years ago

Thanks for writing this hub - it really gave me a good chuckle. The cornflakes in your body hair is quite a story! I can remember putting pieces of tangerine up my nose and in my ears while stoned. Why? Why? Why?

I also smoked it for a long while though initally it did help me think about things in new ways, in the long term it didn't do much for me except make me drowsy most of the time. I can very happily give it a wide birth now.


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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for posting, Susana! I am glad you found it amusing. I find a lot of things that once happened to me which were terrible at the time are funny now when I look back on them!


\Brenda Scully 7 years ago

brilliant that you share your experiences, even though they were not always good...... Some people may read this and be helped by it.... 3 cheers to you, I always enjoy your hubs..... Brenda


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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Brenda!


7 years ago

I have to say from the perspective of a regular cannabis user your personal expieriences are astonishing. I have been around at least 1000 "Stoned" people in my life and never have seen or heard of anything like this. It could easily have something to do with your particular brain chemistry. I find your expierience very interesting and I thank you for the good read. Please don't let your personal expierience reflect in your feelings toward medical marijuana users as there are many people who benefit.


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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

"Please don't let your personal expierience reflect in your feelings toward medical marijuana users as there are many people who benefit." I think cannabis is good for a lot of people but it definitely isn't good for me and it took a long time for me to learn that lesson! I know or have known loads of people who smoke the stuff on a regular basis who appear just fine on it. Like I said I have known loads of musicians who smoke it and many do when they are recording or about to play. How they do this I don't know! I have known people who can drive on it and again how they do that I don't know. That is exactly how I used to get caught - I would see other people enjoying the stuff and think well, let's give it another go, but no more!

Same used to apply to acid because I have seen people carry on as "normal" after taking LSD and wondered how can they do that?


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ledefensetech 7 years ago from Cape Girardeau, MO

Well that's easy, you don't get a list of possible side effects nor do you really know the dosage of cannabis or LSD or other illicit drug you may be taking. Everyone's body chemistry is different and everyone reacts differently to different drugs, whether over the counter, prescription or illicit.


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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Yes, but a majority get similar effects from drugs. I don't and that put me in a minority.The funny thing is that I got involved in the drug/hippy culture because I was feeling different from people thought I had found a group of people I fitted in with, a group of like-minded souls, and yet I just ended up feeling different again! However, for many years I have been able to see that as a good thing!


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ledefensetech 7 years ago from Cape Girardeau, MO

Well at the very least you're not a drone. :) Surely that counts for something.


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Karen Weir 7 years ago from Alberta Canada

Sad to say, but I can relate... on a much smaller scale thank God LOL. Like you, as a teenager and young adult, I tried to fit in by taking a hoot on the joint as it was passed around at a party, and NEVER had a positive experience. No hallucinations, but a little trippy to say the least. I'd spend the next couple of hours wishing it would go away and driving my friends mad asking them how much longer I'd feel this way. Obviously, it didn't work to make me fit in LOL. After a few times people stopped offering it to me! I knew so many people (still do) who just loved it, found it relaxing etc and I really wanted to experience what they did.


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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for posting, Karen! Yes, that was it - I was trying to fit in but never managed it and not in any other ways too! Perhaps the lesson was to stop trying! lol


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IzzyM 7 years ago from UK

I loved this hub because it made me feel more normal.I'm a granny now but surrounded by people my age who take cannabis daily and seem to cope well on it, yet I get symptoms like yours if I try! So no thanks I don't smoke 'purros' or whatever it is in Spanish. Mine's a vodka n coke if you're buying;)


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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Yes, there's loads of people smoke it on this island too but I stay away from the stuff!


Candide delM 6 years ago

Well I think I can certainly identify the Bruce you're talking about and - as I've said to you before - nothing's changed much !!!!!!!

Now Phillipa - I wonder .......?

M.


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Bard of Ely 6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Phillipa's mother used to fancy me, which was not what I wanted. I did some gardening once at their house. As for Bruce he used to call on me and Chris (CJ) Stone when we lived in Mackintosh Place. I seem to remember Bruce lived in nearby Donald Street.


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cheaptrick 6 years ago from the bridge of sighs

Wow dude,it made you sh*t your PANTS?thats the best reason I've ever heard for abstaining!

Curious that you kept comparing it to LSD...perhaps the one revived the other?

In any case You should NEVER smoke pot!

Leave that to us professionals lol.


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Bard of Ely 6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Some of the cannabis experiences I had were more overwhelming than LSD and I had some very powerful trips, both good and bad, on that stuff! Actually you are possibly right though because before I had taken acid I was OK smoking dope. It's as if it opened me up to all sorts of stuff that cannabis could reactivate. Nowadays I will leave it all to you gladly! lol


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Harvey Stelman 6 years ago from Illinois

Bard,

Oh man, what a bummer. I've never heard of anyone being allergic, I know I'm not. I take some stuff every night. It's 5mg and prescribed by my doctor. The only thing it does is relax me so I can sleep.

Oh, I have MS and it stops me from shaking. I was a singer in the 60' & -70's. It was everywhere, but the power of the mind is stronger.


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Bard of Ely 6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Well, I am glad it works well for you but it doesn't for me!


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Harvey Stelman 6 years ago from Illinois

Bard,

You didn't take a pill orally.


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Bard of Ely 6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Not sure what you mean?


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Harvey Stelman 6 years ago from Illinois

Bard,

There is a pill that is MJ. I have no idea why they give out medical MJ as a joint, must be cost.


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Bard of Ely 6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I didn't realise and no, I haven't and wouldn't want to after the terrible experiences I had with it otherwise! I am glad it works for others but it's not for me!


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Harvey Stelman 6 years ago from Illinois

Bard,

It's called marinol (generic) it doesn't get me high at 5mg. It cuts down spasticity and helps me sleep. I don't know what a higher dosage would do.


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goagirl 4 years ago

As somebody who lives with chronic pain I absolutely advocate the use of cannabis for pain relief or pain release. I noticed the benefits some years ago when taking dope recreationally - suddenly realising that something was missing - that something being the grinding pain of arthritis that has lived in my hips and spine for years, uninvited. Compared to opiates, I'm sure that cannabis is the lesser of the two evils, if evil is the word for something so harmless!!


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Bard of Ely 4 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Good points made, Goagirl! Thank you for posting!


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wabond 3 years ago from England

I've never liked drink or drugs. I used to be pressurised as a young man to take these things, I did try a few, but that was as far as I got. I just couldn't see the point of it, I just didn't like anything that interfered with my brain or thinking. I don't even like drugs recommended by doctors, and now keep away from any sort of drug.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

You were very lucky, William! I think very many people use drugs to escape from problems and pain in their lives.


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wabond 3 years ago from England

So they tell me! Yet for most people, drink and drugs seem to make people's problems and pain even worse. You would think the many stories of people becoming addicted to drugs and drink would put them off using this stuff but it doesn't. So I don't understand why people want to this to themselves.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Many artists, musicians, poets and authors have drug and/or alcohol addiction problems. Some like William Burroughs write about being a drug addict and are inspired by their addiction. Many top songwriters are likewise inspired by their experiences with drugs, and famous artists too eg Van Gogh is known to have been one of the many artists and writers who drank absinth. Also actors and actresses often have problems with drink and drugs. How many times have you read of some famous star who has been admitted to rehab or worse has died from an overdose? Sadly the world of the arts and entertainment is riddled with drug and alcohol abuse all the way to the top.


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wabond 3 years ago from England

I do wonder if a lot of the problems with drink and drugs with actors and performers, is stage fright. So they start taking drugs or alcohol to overcome this. The problem then is that after awhile, they have to increase the amount and end up addicted to it.

As for writers and painters, I suppose they use drink or drugs to overcome a writer's block or the painting equivalent of that. And if it works once, they are encouraged to use it again. More so if they are under-pressure from a publisher or art dealer to produce more. So I can see the temptation, but personally, I always preferred the route of meditation and daydreaming.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I think most of these people use these substances as an escape from unhappiness and stress in their lives and also to feel good. The addictive drugs (heroin, cocaine, speed, sedatives and tranquilizers etc) all make the user feel better until the drug wears off and so the need for more and more develops. Hallucinogenic drugs are not like that but provide an adventure or a 'trip'.


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wabond 3 years ago from England

There does seem to be a lot of peer pressure as well. When I was a young man I was put under a lot of pressure to drink, smoke and take drugs. I resisted this, as I don't like being put under pressure to do anything. But I suppose most people seem to give in to this pressure.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Very true and I succumbed to all three things. I wanted to add too that many stars use drugs to be the people that they are expected to be. I watched a documentary on the late Keith Moon and his main problem was alcohol. He was being treated for his dependency on it and was taking Heminevrin. He was invited by Paul McCartney to a screening of the Buddy Holly Story to which his girlfriend wanted to go. He had been staying off the drink by taking the meds but to make sure he was the Keith Moon people expected in public, the funny and wild rock star, he knew he needed to take something to be that. According to the documentary he took cocaine and I think ended up drinking a bit at the party and then took a lot more of the prescribed drug when they got back. He overdosed on a cocktail of drugs and died and the main one that killed him was the one that he was taking to cure his addiction to alcohol. The Wikipedia version is a bit different but agrees on the drug that killed him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Moon


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wabond 3 years ago from England

Yes, I have read that many pop-stars and even film actors have to be "tanked up" to produce a good performance. I suppose this works for awhile but it must catch up with you sooner or later. It does seem to me that many of this prescribed drugs are just as bad as illegal drugs. Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson were killed taking drug prescribed by their doctors.

One of the ways I learnt to resist pressure to take drugs or alcohol was a trick I learnt from a girl at a party. She got everyones attention by mad dancing and saying mad things. Then suddenly she announced to everyone. "You all think I'm drunk, Well I'm not. I'm completely sober. I'm just pretending to be drunk. If you act mad when you are sober, they lock you up. But if you pretend to be drunk, you can get away with any insane behaviour."

So I did learn from this, and in few parties I did pretend to be drunk or on drugs, so people would leave me alone and not pressurise me to take something.


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Bard of Ely 3 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Yes, there are loads of stars who have died because of prescribed drugs taken in overdose. Marilyn Monroe, Judy Garland and Jimi Hendrix all died because of barbiturates. In fact it could be argued that the legal drug alcohol and prescribed drugs like barbiturates have killed more celebrities than any illegal ones. LSD and cannabis do not kill, I have never heard of any deaths from Cocaine, though it and amphetamines are very damaging but I can't think of any reports of them directly killing anyone famous. Heroin, yes, but from overdose and usually when it has been taken by someone who had got off the drug and then started using again. The prescribed drug Prozac was used by Del Shannon who committed suicide after taking it.

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