Why Liberal Politics Lead to Communism

Manifesto of the Communist Party
Manifesto of the Communist Party

Marxism in America

As a society we have benefited from Liberal ideologies. The Liberal mindset and the notion that there existed people in our past that were willing to stand up for the rights of women and races were key in forming our nation and get us to where we are today. The Liberal ideologies of the past were still Constitutional. As a matter of fact, the Liberal mindset of women's rights and the abolitionist finally nullified our Constitution, "We the People" became a true democracy, and we did that with the voices of past Liberal thinkers.

Traditionally, since that period Conservatism has traditionally upheld the ideologies of the founding fathers. At the time of these important movements Liberals were essentially acting within what should have been the Conservative mindset. I would define Conservatism as any movement towards the ideologies of the Constitution and that of our Founding Fathers. Where I think contemporary Liberals are sliding down a slippery slope towards Communism is within a shift in their key ideologies.Lost somewhere in between making key reformations for our country to the modern day American Liberals they have lost the mindset that we must uphold the ideologies of the Constitution of the United States of America. I think how they stepped onto this slippery platform was with the concept of "equality" and their misinterpretation of how much our Constitution can uphold these concepts of equality.

Karl Marx believed in a system of equality, as did our Founding Fathers. Modern Liberals seem to be taking a viewpoint more consistent with Karl Marx's ideas of equality and shifting away from the ideas of our Constitution. If you read "Manifesto of the Communist Party"by Karl Marx he doesn't sound as if he had any ideologies that would lead to a system of government that would be oppressive to its people. "The modern bourgeois [Capitalist business owner] society that has sprouted from the ruins of feudal society has not done away with class antagonisms. It has but established new classes, new conditions of oppression, new forms of struggle in place of the old ones" (Marx, 1888) Marx saw wage labor or people working for an hourly wage for someone else as oppression. And the emergence of this new Capitalist middle class was just a new form of oppression for the under-priveledged. Marx sought to erase oppression through equality. Communism was based on his ideologies of equality. Erasing Capitalism and the oppression of working for an hourly wage. This is Communism and this is where the United States is heading if we allow the Liberal ideologies, which just as Marx's, sound good in theory but not practical and essentially not Constitutional.

Our country was founded with this principle of Capitalism. And it is an equal system (despite what Marxist believe) because everyone has the same opportunity to make and produce goods. It works on a system of supply and demand. Both the labor and the goods are supplied in this manner. It is a simple concept. But the more it is interfered with the less it works. "We the People" decide which businesses fail or prosper based on how we spend our money. The more we give to "big government" for taxes to further control which businesses fail or succeed the less money we have to make decisions ourselves. The less money we, the working citizens, have to make capitalism work.

The bigger we make our government in order to control our overall decision making the less liberties we have as individuals. Liberal thought has shifted away from individual liberties (such as the right to vote) and now it seems to me is focused on the equality of a society through the deterioration of individual liberties. Furthermore, the Liberals in the United States are focused on equality of mankind Worldwide by deteriorating our rights as United States citizens.  For example, if we view World government as bigger and better than our own we run the risk of losing the power of the very document that secures our individual liberties: the Constitution. And the modern Liberals seem all to comfortable in allowing World government to control our country. If we are to live in a country without Capitalism and without individual rights, we are to live in a Socialist country.  Once we get on the path to Socialism it quickly can lead to a system of Communism. Why?

Liberals right now are fighting to give more money to big government, and big government will control our individual spending, control which businesses fail and succeed, control which doctors you can see and how much they can make, control which businesses are ran by which people, and how much hourly wage earners can make,  Right now our own big government is already being controlled by an even bigger government, that of the World. All of this is not in the future this is already happening.  All of this sounds likes Marxist ideologies are alive and well right here in America. The latter made examples are not within the confines of the Constitution, and certainly do not follow the ideologies of our Founding Fathers, they are the ideologies a Communism.  

 

 

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Ralph Deeds 7 years ago

Are you a fan of Rush Limbaugh by any chance? What about Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter? If you haven't tried them I bet you'd like 'em. I'm curious where you get your information and what the source of your opinions is???


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estopher 7 years ago from Bainbridge, Ohio Author

The only source I used was a college textbook called "Readings for Sociology" in which we studied Marxism. What other information are you referring to? No I am not a fan of any "quote" radio or television conservative. I have just taken a lot of college courses in government and history and it seems to me like we move further and further away from the Constitution. Any arguments other than that are welcome.


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Ralph Deeds 7 years ago

Well, the country has changed in many respects since the Constitution was adopted. When the Constitution was written the country was much smaller in area and population and it was primarily an agrarian economy. Economic and technological developments changed the society from agrarian to industrial and urban. This presented a lot of needs felt by citizens that were not anticipated by the signers of the Constitution. Not to mention that slavery was practiced throughout the south, women could not vote and were treated like chattel by their husbands, etc, etc. Specifically, in what respects have we deviated unjustifyably from the Constitution and why, in your opinion, are the deviations unjustifies. I assume you don't disagree with women voting or the elimination of slavery or the Brown v. Board of Education decision by the Supreme Court. What about the right to organize and bargain collectively, the FDIC, the FBI, the FDA, etc. Seems to me you are making unsupported assertions that we are becoming a Marxist or socialist country. I consider myself a liberal, and I don't agree for a minute that I am of a mindset not to "uphold the ideology of the Constitution" or that I am a socialist or that I don't believe in free enterprise. Here's what one of the foremost conservative constitutional lawyers and scholars, Judge Richard Posner, had to say recently on this topic

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/22655


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estopher 7 years ago from Bainbridge, Ohio Author

"Specifically, in what respects have we deviated unjustifyably from the Constitution and why, in your opinion, are the deviations unjustifies," I'll just roll with the assumption that you meant "unjustified." I already caught the link to the Richard Posner arguement, but thank you again. Education? You might read my hub  http://hubpages.com/hub/Segregation-in-America, or again http://hubpages.com/hub/History-of-the-US-Departme... and you will find I am well aquainted with "Brown vs. The Board of Education of Topeka."  Or perhaps you are an advocate of educational equality then you might read http://hubpages.com/hub/Equality-in-American-Educa...  You are just advocating my point that once upon a time liberal thought was ideal for America. If you think I justify slavery please read http://hubpages.com/hub/Book-ReviewNarrative-of-Fr... after you are done reading all of that come back to argue please.  But before you go might I remind you that their (founding fathers) ideologies were before their time, and they did not form the governement within the spectrum of their own time, they built an everlasting document that could endure.  You have "unjustifyably" as a liberal mind, acted to "unjustifies" the Constitution by allowing your practices to no longer be recognized by the founding fathers which gave all of us rights in which all of these movements (other than the modern one) a basis upon which all of us have equal liberties and our rights upheld by the Constitution. How does big governement and mingling in private enterprise "justifies" that?  


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estopher 7 years ago from Bainbridge, Ohio Author

Ralph Deeds forgot to read this segment of the Hub, "The Liberal ideologies of the past were still Constitutional. As a matter of fact, the Liberal mindset of women's rights and the abolitionist finally nullified our Constitution, "We the People" became a true democracy, and we did that with the voices of past Liberal thinkers."


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James A Watkins 7 years ago from Chicago

This is an outstanding essay! You well point out the difference between a "classical" liberal and a "social" liberal. Or, it could be said a "political" liberal" and a "lifestyle" liberal. Your response to Mr. Deeds was right on target. Thanks for the great work.


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rsmallory 7 years ago from Central Texas

great hub Estopher. Don't pay any attention to Mr. Deeds-he like to argue for the sake of arguing.


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pigfish 6 years ago from Southwest Ohio

There is hope for our country when our young men and women can study the past and form their own opinions to shape the future. Good hub Estopher. Keep it up.


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Comrade Joe 4 years ago from Glasgow, United Kingdom

I am sorry to say that this contains many inaccuracies, some of which i will try to bring clarity to. Fist of all, "Marx sought to erase oppression through equality." This is a falsehood. In Marxist theory, socialism emerges by historical necessity by virtue of the development of the productive forces of society. Once the productive forces no longer satisfy human needs, capitalism is shed away. The result is not "equality", the result is the dictatorship of the proletariat which is a dictatorship of the exploited majority against the exploiting minority. This is not equality, notions of equality are a distortion of Marxism.

"This is Communism and this is where the United States is heading if we allow the Liberal ideologies," - no it isn't. Communism is a classless society governed by mutual cooperation and collective ownership of the means of production. Secondly, Liberals are capitalists. They are committed to preserving society and reformism, not revolution. Also, when has Liberal government ever lead to communism or the Dictatorship of the Proletariat? It never has.

"If we are to live in a country without Capitalism and without individual rights, we are to live in a Socialist country." Medieval society had no individual rights or capitalism, but they were feudal monarchies, not socialist. For Marxists Socialism is the end of exploitation of man by man.

"All of this sounds likes Marxist ideologies are alive and well right here in America." This is evidently not the case. Firstly, your conception of Marxist ideology is misconstrued at best. Secondly, if Marxist ideology prevailed then the CPUSA would be a large and strong political force, but this clearly isn't so.


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Comrade Joe 4 years ago from Glasgow, United Kingdom

It is also the case that socialism and communism are a result of the proletariat overthrowing capitalist forms of oppression. It is not gifted by the political bourgeoisie (whether liberal or otherwise), it is illogical and impossible and bears no correspondence with Marxist theory.

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