Where Were They?

Marching For Life?

Washington D.C was a busy place the week of January 20th, 2013. We had in second Inauguration of President Obama on the 21st, and then on consecutive days two large rallies. Friday, the 25th brought opponents of abortion to the Nation's Capitol for the Annual 'March for Life', and the 26th brought advocates for reform of America's gun laws together for a rally.

But how many people stayed for both events. A true "pro-life" ethic would place as much concern on a child, teenager, or adult killed by a gun as it does to a fetus, it would seem. The person so many of these "pro-lifers" follow spoke that, "He who lives by sword shall perish by it," and called for "beating swords into plowshares". Of course, more radical members of thier community advocate actions that if committed by any other group would be seen as domestic terrorism.

Or is pro-life movement not about life, but power and dominion. Is the goal of the "pro-life" movement not to protect and preserve life, but to subjugate women? Deny a woman the rights to her body, and as the book Handmaid's Tale portrays, you can make a woman a second class citizen.

By that logic, the rhetoric of the gun lobby ties in well. The idea they seem to have that power flows not from the ballot box, or the people, but the barrel of the gun.

At a service, we offered an intention for those who marched for 'life'. No blessing to those who marched and stood for the lives outside the womb that could be protected by passing reasonable gun laws was given. What does that say about a church that preaches peace and so venerates a woman.

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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

tpc knows as little about the pro life community as he does firearms... which is to say -- nothing.


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

I know, as I have have shown, that their concern seems to stop at birth!


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

Yes, that is why the Christian community has never, once, ever in the history of mankind and in any country, sponsored hospitals, orphanages, and adoption agencies.

And why my church just pretends to give away hundreds of thousands of dollars each year to help young, poor and desperate mothers with children find food, shelter and survival. I bet the church elders really use that money to party each month and just tell us it goes to help people.

Pure fantasy-land living in tpc's head.


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

But what have they done to slow the growth of inequality. One of my earlier hubs was on this, "Social Service, Social Justice", I think it was called!

"When I fed the poor, they called me a saint. When I asked why the poor were poor, they called me a communist."


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

so you admit your earlier statement was bogus?Okay... I can deal with that.


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HandyWoman 3 years ago from New York

The issue of gun control is not one of life because the argument can easily be made for both sides. Tighter gun control limits the availability of firearms and therefore decreases the amount of firearm related deaths (in logic) but also allowing more people to arm themselves would scare away less hardened criminals from possibly committing a crime (so it would seem). I think the link between the two issues isn't as obvious as you are trying to imply it is.


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

Jack:

Double posted.

But the record of religion on opposing corporate power is not good to say the least.

Yes there are groups like Catholic Worker out there, but they seem to be a fringe movement.


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

Handy:

It can be, but that debate does not even seem to be brought to the table on their side.


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

tpc knows all about the debate "on their side." Just like he knows that there were never any hospitals, orphanages, schools and adoption centers ever in the history of the church.


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

you mean the "record" isn't exactly, one hundred percent just the way YOU want it to go. Anything else but full compliance with your personal views just doesn't count.


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

I know that, but I also know that those places have a darker side. . .


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ImKarn23 3 years ago

Ummm...were we separated at birth TPC? Lol..

Hey Jack is Back!

Listen up, jacko - when the 'christian community' starts to 'sponsor' ALL hospitals, ALL orphanages, and ALL adoption agencies - instead of just the ones that support their specific positions - then you can talk about PRO-LIFE..

When the 'christian community' starts to 'sponsor' SEX EDUCATION in SCHOOLS and easy access to CONTRACEPTION - then you can talk about pro-life..

When the 'christian community' starts to give a DAMN about the WOMAN who's LIFE happens to also be involved (and - LIFE means more than just breathing in and out - at least - it does to most of us..)THEN you can talk about pro-life..

You're not pro-life - you're pro BIRTH..

I wonder exactly how much money your 'church' gives to a hospital that performs abortions? Hmmmm?

Not that they should - THEY have a right to their beliefs JUST AS WE HAVE A RIGHT TO OURS - does that not get through to you???

Roe v Wade is a fact, sir - altho - WHY was a law needed to protect women - who's liberties were already protected under the constitution - just like mens????

The arrogance of YOU and the 'christian community' to think they have the RIGHT to tell ME what to do! O M G...

And - i wonder what makes YOU the expert while you belittle TPC's well backed thoughts and opinions on a matter close to his heart - which he has every RIGHT to write about..

And - of course - that then gives folks like YOU the right to rush right over and instantly begin your arrogant, belittling criticism..

Do yourself a favor, mr burton - don't visit my hubs - you'd have a GOD-DAMNED coronary!

lol..


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ImKarn23 3 years ago

There is a difference between pro-LIFE and pro-BIRTH..

These zealots are ONLY pro-birth - after that blessed moment - they don't give a damn what happens..


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DzyMsLizzy 3 years ago from Oakley, CA

My husband has voiced almost this same sentiment, in much harsher terms: "Save the fetus so we can kill it later with guns, or the death penalty if it grows up to commit murder." It is yet another tack on the war against women. The "good old boys" network just hates that women have broken through the 'glass ceiling,' so they are trying other means to subjugate women yet again..and NOT venerate them, but debase them. I very much agree with ImKarn23's assessment--after birth, they don't give a hoot. They aren't going to pay to help raise that child.

It is, indeed, incongruous, contradictory and just plain stupid.

We need sensible laws about guns--NO civilian needs to own ANY weapon designed for the military with the single purpose of killing as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time possible. That is NOT a weapon for hunting, self defense, or target shooting. It is strictly designed to kill vast numbers of people quickly. It should be outlawed for civilian possession.

And, no, outlawing a single category of such weapons, be they handguns or rifles with the capacity for automatic or semi-automatic firing of great numbers of bullets does NOT either infringe upon or repeal the much-touted 2nd amendment.

After all, the guns we now have were not even a faint vision in the imaginations of the founding fathers. (I could think of a much more crude way to phrase that, but HP probably wouldn't like it...) They had single-shot, barrel-loaded pistols and muskets, and I'm sure that's what they had in mind when they wrote the amendment. Said amendment also refers to that necessity for the provision of a well-armed MILITIA. That, folks, was BEFORE there existed any formal military organization as we know it. A militia consists of volunteers who step up to assist in defense of a country or area, either alone or to assist a regular military force. They may or may not be paid.

Voted up, interesting and useful.


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Learn Things Web 3 years ago from California

The prolife movement is definitely about subjugating women. Abortions happen whether the practice is legal or not. Illegalizing it doesn't stop it and may actually increase abortions. The leaders of the prolife movement know this well. How could they not? They also seem to have little interest in reducing unwanted pregnancies. They claim to care about fetuses and babies, yet cruelly use them to control women's lives.


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schoolgirlforreal 3 years ago from USA

LOL! Are you sure Leslie?!!!!


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schoolgirlforreal 3 years ago from USA

I would look at the pro life on an individual basis, because no entity be it church or group can be held accountalbe for being without fault. Let's look at the individual, I think many individuals have great intentions...the churches/groups can always be found fault with even planned parenthood for not always educating a woman first for example?


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

In other, more simple words. .. IM wants every church to believe just as she does.


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

Lizzy sez: We need sensible laws about guns--NO civilian needs to own ANY weapon designed for the military with the single purpose of killing as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time possible. That is NOT a weapon for hunting, self defense, or target shooting. It is strictly designed to kill vast numbers of people quickly. It should be outlawed for civilian possession.

Jack replies: Lizzy is as ignorant about guns as a five year old on a trike is about how to win a NASCAR race.

Military weapons? Lizzy doesn’t know that the lever action rifle was invented in 1960 as specifically as a “war weapon” to kill as many people as possible in the shortest time and went on to become the most popular hunting rifle over the next 80 years.

Lizzy doesn’t know that the Mauser bolt action rifle was specifically developed as a “war weapon” in the 1880s ” to kill as many people as possible in the shortest time and went on to become the second most popular hunting rifle over the next 100 years.

Lizzy doesn’t know jack about guns… but she sure does think she knows what a “war weapon” is even though the guns sold at Walmart and Bass Pro Shops have never been to war.

Lizzy has a chance to educate herself by reading my hub on “Evil Black Rifles” but between me and you I think she would rather live in ignorance.

BTW, liz… can you explain to us why so many police carry a weapon that you think is designed to “kill vast numbers of people quickly”? Just who are these “vast numbers” you want the police to kill?

Lizzy sez: After all, the guns we now have were not even a faint vision in the imaginations of the founding fathers. (I could think of a much more crude way to phrase that, but HP probably wouldn't like it...) They had single-shot, barrel-loaded pistols and muskets, and I'm sure that's what they had in mind when they wrote the amendment.

Jack replies: And Lizzy doesn’t know much about the Founding Fathers and what they knew also.

The FF knew quite well about the the Puckle Gun, a 1718 British patent on a rifle firing a 1.25" caliber ball from an 11 round revolving magazine at 63 rounds per minute

The Ferguson Rifle, also British fielded in multiple Revolutionary War engagements in 1777 by its inventor Patrick Ferguson, a breech loader that had 3-6 times the rate of fire of standard muskets.

Or the Giarondoni Rilfe used by the Lewsi & Clarke Expedition, an air rifle, with a 20 round magazine.

So spare us the BS that our founding forefather didn’t know anything about technological advances!

I know these folk get offended when I state that they are living in a fantasyland of their own mind. But how else can you explain their compulsion to post about subjects in which they have no knowledge – not even the most basic.


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DzyMsLizzy 3 years ago from Oakley, CA

@ Jack

My information comes from my husband, who was IN THE MILITARY for 20 years, and has fired every weapon then known to man (other than nuclear).

He states that your arguments are both delusional and invalid; comparing apples to oranges in typical NRA brainwashed propaganda fashion.

63 rounds per minute from an 11-round magazine? What kind of fuzzy math is that? You can't reload that fast. They did not have quick-loads back then. These are slippery-slope and straw man arguments.

Anyone who needs a 20 or 30 round clip for hunting is probably a very poor shot. Give a single shot to my husband, and he'll take your sorry rear out before you can finish aiming.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gu...


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

Liz, I spent 26 years in the military "firing every weapon." Hell, my

WIFE spent 27 years in and qualified as expert on handgun and rifle. Big deal.

I noticed that you just tried to wave your hand and dismiss what I wrote without any real effort to dispute it. I gave facts... you gave bupkis. I am sure the Dear Readers can tell the difference.

OH... BTW... I can fire 51 rounds in 20 seconds from a Glock that has a 17 round magazine. Amazing, eh. Of course, I have two other fully loaded magazines sitting next to me when I try it for a fast reload. I guess neither you or your husband thought of that.


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DzyMsLizzy 3 years ago from Oakley, CA

@ Jack-- Whatever--you've only proven MY point that you are going to believe whatever propaganda you want to suit your own agenda. There is no changing the minds of those who refuse to acknowledge facts and truths. You are deliberately missing the entire point of the discussion in the first place, and I will not further waste my time bandying words in a battle of wits with an unarmed (pun intended) person!


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

I posted historical "facts" showing Lizzy is wrong and Lizzy has posted....?

I cited names and dates showing Lizzy is wrong and Lizzy has posted....?

I am content the Dear Readers understand quite well who is refusing to acknowledge what and which "point" is proven.


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tammybarnette 3 years ago

TPC, Another great hub and great point. These fringe groups do not see their hypocrisy...they care diddly about the rights of all, they only want rights for those who agree with them, think like them, and that group is disappearing as a more tolerant generation reaches voting age, as shown in the last election.

I have never understood the pro-life group, at least by name, they should be called the anti-abortion group, and pro-choice should simply read pro-rights...I never believed I would see a day when my rights were in jeopardy until this last election...It makes perfect sense that the Church would be anti-abortion but also anti-birth control? That is odd, planning to keep women barefoot and pregnant and second class citizens?

Many of their beliefs on the right are so hypocritical, but to be fair this happens on the left as well...my views cross lines often. I am pro-rights I am also pro-death penalty and 2nd amendment, but I have common sense which dictates that we must have restaints. With guns, nobody needs military weapons, with abortion the first trimester is the law but I believe it should be even shorter IMHO, and with the death penalty we must never be hasty and have an innocent person die...

The propaganda machine has all groups fired up and divided when likely many of the people could find common ground.


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

Tammy sez: nobody needs military weapons

Jack replies: Tammy knows full well that "military weapons" are not sold here in America but it makes her ffffeeellll ssssoooo gggggooooddd to type it that she just cannot help herself.

And she speaks of others' "hypocrisy."


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tammybarnette 3 years ago

Jack don't know jack but likes to pretend he does, when given the floor he has nothing to say, when given an article that clearly disproves his protest he still spouts his blatant lies...


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

Tammy hasn't actually provided an "article" that proves or disproves anything. But you have to remember, Dear Readers. She thinks the Army shops at Walmart for all the weapons they use over in Iraq and Afghanistran. That's why it's difficult to get to the register at times... all the soldiers clogging up the aisles. :-)


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

tammy sez: they care diddly about the rights of all, they only want rights for those who agree with them, think like them,

Jack replies: Well, Dear Readers, let's take a closer look at this, shall we.

Who wants the "right" for all law-abiding citizens to own a sports utility rifle. Why, the fringe group.

Who wants the "right" to own a sports utility rifle taken away from everyone. Why, Tammy and her friends.

Who wants the "right" for all law-abiding citizens to own a firearm magazine with more than ten rounds. Why, the fringe group.

Who wants the "right" to own a firearm magazine with more than ten rounds taken away from everyone. Why, Tammy and her friends.

Who wants the "right" for all law-abiding citizens to own big firearms, small firearms, and even scary looking firearms. Why, the fringe group.

Who wants the "right" to own big firearms, small firearms, and even scary looking firearms taken away from everyone. Why, Tammy and her friends.

Who wants the "right" for all law-abiding citizens to sell his own personal firearm to another law-abiding citizen without government interference. Why, the fringe group.

Who wants the "right" to sell his own personal firearm to another law-abiding citizen without government interference taken away from everyone. Why, Tammy and her friends.

Who wants the "right" for all law-abiding citizens to own personal property without winding up in a government database. Why, the fringe group.

Who wants the "right" to to own personal property without winding up in a government database taken away from everyone. Why, Tammy and her friends.

Can we easily tell whether or not Tammy is actually living in fantasy land when she accuses the "fringe group" of denying rights to those who disagree with them. :-)


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

Who wants the RIGHT for citzens to be able to arm themselves for a rebellion against the U.S? They seem to be the ones living in a fantasy world! As I pointed out in "Why Mess With the U.S"!

But who wants the right to be a little less worried about some lunatic shooting up a school, etc.. . .


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

There ya go. Tpc proves quite easily just who it is that believes in "rights." Only the "rights" that he approves of are allowed for the people.


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

And what is wrong with being safe from a massacre, that doesn't involve America looking like Somilia, etc?

I'll admit that won't make any money for Remnngton, etc. . .


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

tpc obviously believes that there was never, ever, not once, a "massacre" that was done without guns. Ever in the history of the world. Not one. Ever.

tpc also believes that the way to guarantee you'll be "safe" from any massacre is to let the government have all the guns that can fire more than "one shot" and they will keep you safe. Scout's honor. Cross their fingers and hope to die.


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

Jack: You're showing how well the NRA has programmed you.

Have you even read "Why Mess With the U.S" yet?


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

We notice that tpc has to suddenly change the subject, eh. :-)


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tammybarnette 3 years ago

Jack sez Tammy did not provide an article and then Jack quotes a term right out of that article "sports utility rifle"...Dear Readers, we see Jack telling more untruths...Jack, did you happen to notice in the article there were quotations around those words, Did you also notice I used the article to show another untruth told by you, dear sir...I know it's hard to debate with someone who backs her opinions with facts and proof, I understand how you could begin to unravel into this emotional rant...Fact is though...it doesn't change any of the facts, Jack.


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

I mentioned to Tammy several days ago a hub that I wrote about Evil Black Rifles. It has been on the Hub for almost four years now, and was last changed six months ago.

And what do you find when you read the hub? (Which Tammy has never done.)

Why... you find ME using the phrase "sports utility rifle" It's right there in black and pixel. If you google the phase you see millions of hits on it. It's commonly used in the firearms community and is even a common term on the Democratic Underground website.

But Tammy, dear heart, thinks that ~her~ article is the ONLY one that ever used it. AND it is "in quotes." Oh noes....

And Tammy dares post about "facts and proof" eh. :-)

And Tammy can't quite bring herself to actually "post" an "untruth" by me. She just hints and jukes and tries to fake her way to the goal line. But it ain't happening 'cause she forgot she doesn't have the ball.

Tammy really believes in her heart that military rifles are being sold out the door at Walmart, Bass Pro, Cabelas and every other firearms dealer.

She really believes that only certain "rights' are to allowed and she gets to determine those rights.


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tammybarnette 3 years ago

Actually, the article listed that the weapon used at Sandy Hook was sold at wal mart, eh? I believe in all rights actually and since these semi automatic rifles and high capacity clips were not in existence during the writing of our beloved Constitution, and we all want to follow our Constitution, I suggest we only allow the weapons of those inwhich our forefathers were speaking, the ones available at that time....Constitutional, eh?


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

Tammy sez: Actually, the article listed that the weapon used at Sandy Hook was sold at wal mart, eh?

Jack replies: What? You already now dropped the "sports utility rifle"? You really thought you had me on that one, didn't you. You thought you were going to be the Queen of Hubpages. You put mean ol' Jack Burton in his place because he used "your phrase," sports utility rifle.Kinda like a double-secret handshake that only certain "anti-gun" members know about, eh. I used SUR only because I read your article and pretended I didn't.

You must have been so disappointed to find out it was just another fantasy in your head.So, it suddenly "disappeared" as a topic. Never more to be mentioned... or even attempted to be defended. Just ~gone~. In a black hole. Along with all her other posts in which it was she found out how wrong she was.

And since the "weapon" used at Sandy Hook was not a military assault rifle who cares where it was bought. Do you think it would have been more or less harmful in the hands of a madman if it had been bought somewhere else?

And BTW... just like you....

I believe in all rights actually and since these high speed presses, radio, television and even the Internet were not in existence during the writing of our beloved Constitution, and we all want to follow our Constitution, I suggest we only allow free speech for the media of those in which our forefathers were speaking, the ones available at that time....Constitutional, eh?

[Darn, I love people like Tammy. They are so intellectually bankrupt that it’s almost a sin to take advantage of them. But as primo examples to those on the fence about what it means to live in fantasyland they are just too good to pass up.}


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tammybarnette 3 years ago

Jack, I felt no need to further embarass you about your blatant untruth of the article and its contents...

I supposse since you do not understand sarcasm when you read it I will make foot notes for you(insert eyeroll here) Dear readers, we see Jack flopping around like a poor ole fish out of water, he's clinging to his last shred of hope...he can't use the constitution, he can't use "wal-mart does not sell assault weapons,"...He is at his end so expect the post to become increasingly rude and personal...doesn't bother me, I am not one to get all emotional, I prefer to be logical and use common sense and facts...let's watch..


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

The thing is, laws regarding speech have evolved.

Laws in regards to firearms need to do the same--folks like LaPierre don't get that. Folks like the Coalition To Stop Gun Violence and the Violence Policy Center do!


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

Tmmy sez: Jack, I felt no need to further embarass you about your blatant untruth of the article and its contents...

Jack replies: Notice that Tammy never, ever, not even once gets around to posting just what those “untruths” supposed are. She just waves her hand and makes declarations.

Tammy sez: I supposse since you do not understand sarcasm when you read it

Jack replies: Always the first defense of those caught with their pants down, “I was just kidding.”

Tammy sez: Dear readers,

Jack replies: Thanks, Tammy, for acknowledging that since your style of posting isn’t quite working for you and that you have to borrow mine. I’ll be glad to take you on as an apprentice to show you how to do much better. In the meantime it gives me a good ego-boost to know that you feel you have to use my shtick in order to gain notice. I get a little shiver of glee up and down the spine knowing you think so highly of my posts that you copy me and how I do it. Again, thank you. Do it some more, please, little padawan.

Tammy sez: we see Jack flopping around like a poor ole fish out of water, he's clinging to his last shred of hope...

Jack replies: Says the poster who thought that only her and the author of some web piece were the only two people who know the phrase “sports utility rifle.” :-)

Tammy sez: he can't use the constitution,

Jack replies: :-) Tammy tried the Constitution card and I destroyed her argument. Since Tammy apparently believes that the 1st Amendment doesn’t cover radio, tv or the Internet perhaps we can discuss this while standing on soapboxes like the Founding Fathers did.

Tam my sez: he can't use "wal-mart does not sell assault weapons,".

Jack replies: Tammy obviously has me confused with another poster since I never said that. And this, Dear Readers, is exactly why I quote the poster such as Tammy word for word. She cannot do that with me or it destroys the whole, bogus point she is trying to make. Let me note that again so there is no confusion. She cannot ~accurately~ quote me without destroying her very argument.

Tammy sez: ..He is at his end so expect the post to become increasingly rude and personal...doesn't bother me,

Jack replies: Sure is does, Tammy. It bothers the hell out of you. That’s why you have to make up bogus quotes to attribute to me. It’s the only real way you can attempt to “get back” at me.

Tammy sez: I am not one to get all emotional, I prefer to be logical and use common sense and facts...let's watch..

Jack replies: Tammy believes in “facts” such as the “fact” that Walmart, Bass Pro, Dicks and other sporting goods shops sell “military assault rifles.” Of course she gets all emotional and resents it like hell when I point out that she is living in fantasy land. That’s why she is compelled to make up bogus quotes.


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tammybarnette 3 years ago

Oh Jack, your such a character:) I try speaking in your own language, hoping you may understand, it did not work. I try providing proof, usisng an article to show the error of your thinking, it did not break the indoctrination. I tried humor and sarcasm too entice original thought, it also did not work. I have had much fun in this tit for tat, but now I grow bored. Enjoy your fantasy land, keep your head in the sand, the world will still evolve, without you...Have a beautiful day:)


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

Tammy sez: Oh Jack, your such a character:) I try speaking in your own language, hoping you may understand,

Jack replies: I understood completely. You feel like such a failure at posting that you attempted to copy my more successful style. There’s no shame in admitting it.

Tammy sez: I try providing proof, usisng an article to show the error of your thinking,

Jack replies: Tammy does not understand that two old ladies sitting around discussing how unicorns are mistreated down at the circus does not actually constitute “proof” that unicorns exist.

She really in her heart believes that military grade rifles are sold down at the local sports shop.

Tammy sez: it did not break the indoctrination.

Jack replies: Which of the two of us believe falsely that military grade rifles are sold down at the local sports store? Which of two of us is “indoctrinated” in that wrong fact and refuses to correct it?

Tammy sez: I tried humor and sarcasm too entice original thought, it also did not work.

Jack replies: You’re right, Tammy. It did not work out quite as well as you planned and made you look foolish. That’s because you never give a moment’s thought to what you are posting. but it made you fffeeellll ggggoooodddd to post it.

Tammy sez: I have had much fun in this tit for tat, but now I grow bored.

Jack replies: Yep…no fun in you being a human piñata, is there?

Tammy sez: Enjoy your fantasy land,

Jack replies: Remind us, Tammy… which of the two of us actually believes that military rifles are sold down at the local sporting goods store?

Tammy sez: keep your head in the sand,

Jack replies: Remind us, Tammy… which of the two of us actually believes that military rifles are sold down at the local sporting goods store?

Tammy sez: the world will still evolve, without you...Have a beautiful day:)

Jack replies; It is indeed a most beautiful, evolved day with the good news I just received a few minutes ago. Let me quote for you…

Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.

RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.

FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.

Remington-Maxed out!

Armalite: Maxed out.

DPMS: Maxed out

COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...

LWRC:Making only black guns, running at full capacity...

Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand.


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tammybarnette 3 years ago

Jack, I laugh...I own a smith and wesson, remember...I also laugh so hard that those so indoctrinated and afraid are helping to restore our economy on the backs of the ignorant, Obama couldn't have planned this better if he had triedLOL!!!! I am thrilled you are happy with your news, so am I:) Maybe all of us with brains have been doing this all wrong, we just need to instill fear in the ignorant and our economy will boom! LOL!!!!

I am sorry to hear that you do not understand proof when you read it, or sarcasm, but I guess that would be asking too much of someone so heavily indoctrinated! Excuse me now while I laugh all the way to the bank:)


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tammybarnette 3 years ago

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The Debate Rages On

"We were in a 'quiet' period after the executive branch showed its cards -- those cards were not as far-reaching/invasive/extreme as some feared. The legislative process will continue. With the proposed bans moving to the Senate, expect to hear another roar from both sides of this debate as the anti-gun bill reaches the Senate and then flows on to the House of Representatives. Pass or fail, the media attention surrounding this issue will increase gun and ammo sales.

Gun and Ammunition stocks reacted favorably to the new 23-point plan recently unveiled by the president. The driving fear was that an executive order would be signed by the president banning various weapons. Now that this fear has passed, gun and ammo manufacturer stocks (along with gun-related retail stocks) for the most part experienced a rise in value."

I hope you own stock and not just weapons, LOL:)


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest

Tammy sez: Jack, I laugh...I own a smith and wesson, remember...

Jack replies: Correction. You ~say~ you own a S&W. Just like even the worst racial bigot declares himself to have at least “one black friend.”

Tammy sez:I am sorry to hear that you do not understand proof when you read it,

Jack replies: And I am sorry that you have not provided any “proof.” Any reader can walk down to the local sports store and see for themselves that there are no military assault rifles being sold there as you claim.

Tammy sez: or sarcasm,

Jack replies: Best leave sarcasm to those who know how to use it. Your Constitution and weapons remark only came back to bite you in the arse. Unless, of course, you really want to limit the 1st Amendment to what was available in 1776.

Tammy sez: but I guess that would be asking too much of someone so heavily indoctrinated!

Jack replies: Remind us, Tammy… which of the two of us actually believes that military rifles are sold down at the local sporting goods store?

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