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Best Answer Alicia Rose Harrell says
Thank you for this honor! :D
William Grant says
As far as "occupy" they wasted public resouces, broke laws and their camps bacame havens for criminals, that is why I do not have any respect for them.
So because the Occupy movement is stupid, nothing works but voting? The only way voting works is if there were no names on the ballot at all and everyone got to write in their own candidate. No primaries, no conventions, no corporate money.
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Clayton Hartford says
How about "no evil"?? If we're down to voting for the guy who's just going to screw us the least, then what the hell are we doing?
sword, we have no other option.
...and that's why people don't vote.
If you don't vote, then you do not have the right to complain about what happens.
bn9900: really? The house burns down, but I don't have the right to complain about it because I wasn't joining everyone else when they argued about what color to paint it? Is that what you're saying?
No, thats not what I'm saying, if you don't take the effort to stand up and say anything (vote) then you have no right to complain since you didn't take time to speak up when you had the chance.
So you think that voting is the only way to say something important? The only thing voting does is say "This is the man I want for the job" but what if no one I can vote for is anyone I want for the job? I have no choice but to say "no" to them all
Totally agree bn9900.
@ swordsbane, if you want to do something besides complaining and not vote, perhaps you should try running for office with your own platform.
BJC: Love to, but a system that only gives you a voice when you're actually running for office isn't what we signed on for. And for the record, I WANT to vote. I just don't see any way I CAN vote and still have the candidate I want.
That's your choice, but we saw what happens when people took took another route, the occupy movement didn't do anything, just ticked off people who were trying to do their own things. Not to mention the clean up costs pasted on to the taxpayer.
bn9900: Seriously? You look at the Occupy movement and say "See, it didn't work, so let's go back to voting"
Clue yourself in: Voting isn't working either, yet you want to keep doing that. Go ahead... Tell me it's going to be different this time.
I am clued in thank you very much, and all I said was if you do not vote, then don't complain. If you don't see a candidate you like, fine vote for a third party. Communist, Green, or a whole slue of others, but at least you voted. As far as Occup
bn9900: You're missing the point. The people I want to vote for ARE NOT ON THE BALLOT. How do we "get our say" through the voting process when the voting process forces us to stay mute or vote for someone we don't like?
@swordsbane: If the people you want to vote for are not on the ballot, write them on the ballot and vote for them. All Americans have the right to write on the ballot who they want in any elected office. This is per the US Constitution - read it.
I don't know about you, but the last ballot I saw (for the general presidential election) had no place for a write-in candidate. You can't use write-in's anymore unless you doodle in the margins. How much is that going to count for?
Sword-then WRITE THEM IN.. .Every Ballot I have ever received, has a write in space, every one.
bn9900 is correct, all ballots regardless of election in the USA has a write-in section for all voters. If they did not, the ballot would not be legal and valid in the USA. If you cannot find it, ask the person who is handing out the ballots.
Read my comment again. Also, write-in's have to be ELIGIBLE for candidacy. The popular vote carry's no legal weight in the general election, everyone could vote one way and if the electorate votes another, law is with the electors. Yay democracy
I did read your comment and you are correct they have to be eligible for the presidency, but that didn't stop obama now did it?
bn9900: Didn't stop Obama from what? Are you gonna harp on the "He's not a citizen" thing again? Grow up.
The states set the rules for write-ins and not very many states allow write-ins. That isn't illegal. It's how the system works... or doesn
Not harping, just sayin' and I'm still waiting for the facts. And telling me to grow up just shows that you have no tolerance for a differet view...typical liberal (not saying you are) ideology.
I have no tolerance for willful ignorance. Waiting for facts? Not accepting facts already in evidence is typical Conservative ideology (not saying you are)
@swordsbane: You used the word "Democracy" in reference to the US government. According to the US Constitution it is a "Republic" with 3 branches. The US has a representative government, not run by the populace like ancient Athen's Democracy. Fact!
Oh I know it's a republic. Some of the "vote or don't complain" crowd don't seem to... And just because it's a fact, it doesn't mean it's right.
"Not accepting facts already in evidence..."What facts? A piece of paper that has have the wording blacked out? Thats fact? you you should be a politician, since you are only taking that kind of fact to be truth...I want a full birth certificate,..
bn9900: Snopes destroyed that fantasy last year. Full BC.. nothing blacked out. Try to keep up.
Sorry to burst your bubble but check this link. Snopes does have a pic of a BC, but it shows it is from Kenya, there is no seal of the State of Hawaii http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/keny...
It's there. Try:
Ok, thanks looks legal, but I'll always wonder. I always wondered about him, when he never came forward right away. When you are running for office, I believe all your records should be made available.
Except when you're running for office and someone comes up with a majorly STUPID idea, you don't lose points for ignoring them. I've got plenty of solid reasons for disliking Obama. I don't need made up ones.
bn9900- I have taken to voting for the best candidate NOT member to either major party. Often, I do not vote. The non-vote is a vote against the two-party (elite-controlled) system.
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I hear people all the time saying "Well I ended up voting for (idiot) because I really hated (bigger idiot) Those people are breaking the system. They're telling (idiot) that you LIKE him, when you clearly don't. They're part of the problem.
Chris Dane says
Thank you for a well-developed response. I'm glad someone is watching. I do challenge you on this: What percentage of campaign statements do think Romney will keep? Obama? Before you answer, look up "Rules for Radicals". Rule #1: Lie.
Wow, looked up "Rules for Radicals" and thought I was reading Rove's little red book. Obama has kept more campaign promises than any modern president, so he's hated. Romney is the left's last chance to get a Massachusett's liberal. Make sense?
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You may not have noticed, but Obama is transferring all the wealth to his friends.
A lot of what I see in politics appears to be nothing more than an effort to divide us all against each other. Then they step in as the "solution" with more laws that ultimately yield power to them. This is one of their known tactics, btw.
Old Empresario says
Dear Old Empresario, please vote. I honestly care less who you vote for than that you participate. I understand the sentiment, believe me, I do, but we can't afford to tune out. Not any more. Please reconsider. As for the rest, well said.
Chris: Can't afford to tune out? Is that what you think people who don't vote are doing. When the ballot has no one on it that you would trust with a plastic fork and there's no place for a write in, what do you think a voter should do?
Swordsbane, even though you don't trust them, one of them is still going to be holding the plastic fork after the election. At least vote for the one you trust more. Otherwise, yes, you are tuning out and often enabling the worse of the two to win.
Chris: I don't buy that. You've got a bunch of people arguing about the color of a building that's on fire. It doesn't matter who wins the argument, the building is still going to burn down. You want me to contribute to THAT? That's idiotic.
My non-vote shall be my vote of "no confidence".
Wow! Some novel insights. Thank you.
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