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Susan Keeping says
But, They didn't make this big of a deal out of it.
Some of them certainly did...
"SOME" Is the keyword.
I'd say at least half of the 'big deal' being made about Chick-Fil-A is conservatives complaining about 'gay activists' rather than gay rights advocates complaining about Chick-Fil-A.
Could be junkseller.
Do you think J.C. Penney's would have been denied opening two new stores in any city considering the jobs and revenue it would create? Would the Christians have cost innocent people jobs for their own selfish cause? Your example is very weak.
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A well reasoned comment and I agree. Part of freedom is being able to choose - or not, to support an establishment. It is the very essence of the free market system many of these same people complaining about the boycott claim to support.
Hi, I'd not heard this before. Where have you seen info on them donating to anti-gay groups? I'd be interested to go read it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/conor-gaughan/chick-... 5th paragraph. It is also everywhere on the internet and was admitted by Chic-fil-a. 5 million so far donated to groups that discriminate against the LGBT community.
They give a lot of money to the WinShape Foundation, who in turn provides money to groups such as the Family Research Council and Focus on the Family. http://equalitymatters.org/blog/201103220005#2
Very well said Peeples and I totally agree. I would never support a company that knowingly supports hate groups.
Hate groups?? Really? First of all opposing gay marriage and promoting traditional family values does not make one a hater. Secondly, I am tired of homosexuals being treated like a race or ethnicity. It is a lifestyle and a chosen one at that!
jbosh Explain your OPINION that it's a chosen lifestyle to all the gay children of the world. Oh yeah and telling someone that they have to do what you want them to do because of YOUR OPINION is hate Same thing hapened with interracial couples.
Ohh, you think of Family Research Council &Focus on the Family as hate groups. If not believing gay marriage is right & promoting traditional family values are thought of as hate, this does not make sense to me. Seems a different definitions
AMEN Ms Dee!!!!!!!
Promoting traditional families is fine, holding back rights of those who aren't going the traditional route because you have a problem with it is hate. It's disliking (synonym for hate) someone's ability to do something different than what you want.
peeples, Appreciate your dialoguing on this. Holding back rights is disliking is hate--OK. If Chic-Fil-A promoting traditional marriage is fine, how are they holding back gay rights?
Because their money goes directly toward fighting against gay marriage. If they simply wanted to promote traditional marriage then they should donate to things that help the horrible divorce rate or similar instead of fighting to hold back gay rights
OK, fair enough. I see better now where you are coming from. It still seems to me that the $5M went to Christian orgs, but simply because they are Christian, gays call giving to such orgs anti-gay hate.
My personal opinion is all the money going against gay marriage could be used in so many better ways. Seems like a lot of effort toward the wrong thing. Just my opinion Ms. Dee.
No one minds them "simply" being Christian. They mind them being specifically anti-gay. There are Christian organizations which are pro-gay (e.g. Believe Out Loud). You won't, however, find them on Chick-Fil-A's donor list. This is not by accident.
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I am against Chicfila on this one but I do disagree with keeping them from opening new stores. I won't be donating my money to them but if others choose to it should be an option to make it an even playing field. We can't lose more jobs over this.
I agree with you about the blocking new stores, but I see that as just politicians doing stupid things (kind of like Palin tweeting a photo from Chik-Fil-A). I don't think it is fair to connect them to legitimate actions of gay rights supporters.
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All true, because the world is in sin and the road to perdition is wide and well paved. I just wish that the gay community would be more honest with the public and not try to mislead them into believing that homosexuality is a race or ethnicity.
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peeples, the 5th paragraph of that Huffington Post article mentions several attacks but then implies just one was an attack for being gay--the last one. I don't see statistics for orgs like Focus on the Family carrying out hate activities.
No one has special rights? That's a good position. Can we expect you, then, to sacrifice your right to freely marry whom you choose? Or do you not mind special rights when they belong to you?
If you notice I said "Under the Law". It is illegal for two men or women to marry.
It is not illegal everywhere
In most states it is.
And they gave money to ensure that even people who don't follow their religion or any religion don't get to choose who they want to marry. The US should not be a theocracy
Fundamental human rights are supposed to be above the law. In the case of marriage, the law has been used to take away those rights from specific classes, thereby turning marriage into a special right it isn't meant to be.
Junkseller that is an opinion. Not a fact.
How do you expect laws, religious beliefs, moral beliefs, public beliefs and opinions that have been here for a couple hundred years to change overnight? Have you ever heard of patience and tolerance? This takes time. Maybe generations.
The first same-sex marriage was attempted 40 years ago. What is the acceptable timeframe for discriminating against human beings? Plus, it isn't like intolerance is something we haven't seen before. Equality is a no-brainer.
Now it is. Because the liberals control the media.
The problem isn't that the media is liberal, it is that conservatives call anything to the left of them, including centrists, liberals. Some media is SLIGHTLY left of center. That's it. Either way, that has nothing to do with equality.
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