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Best Answer Eve Mitchell says
I should clarify a comment: the TRUE Christians are the ones without hate for specific groups in their hearts. I didn't intend to imply that Christians that accept gays aren't true Christians.
Eve, well said! We cannot just go by the Christian label, but must look into what all an organization and the individual is actively doing, and make our conclusions based on that.
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Rand Zacharias says
junkseller, Not sure why Christians cannot advocate for strong heterosexual families, &gays advocate for strong gay families. Why must they cross into each other's domains of choice? Some Christians R attacked 4 being anti-gay when they really R
"Why must they cross into each other's domains of choice?"
A very good question, but then I don't know any gay organizations that are trying to make heterosexual marriages illegal. I will agree that people should be careful with their attacks.
As junkseller pointed out, there is nothing wrong with supporting strong heterosexual families so long as it's not to the exclusions of non hetero families, that would be as bad as an org calling for straight people to be banned from marriage.
junkseller and josak, not including homosexual families is, I agress as you junkseller said, "that's their business." Can you provide a source for your claim that many orgs actively work to prevent same-sex marriage? I'd like to look at it. Thanks!
My claim comes from individually researching specific organizations. Perhaps you could point to a pro-traditional family organization which DOESN'T work against same-sex marriage, because I honestly don't know a single one.
junkseller, so with no source from you for your claim that pro-traditional family orgs "work against same-sex marriage" or to make them "illegal" I take 'work against to refer to the push for the marriage amendment. Is this assumption correct?
It goes well beyond marriage amendments. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence...
junkseller, You provide a very helpful reference here that shows specifically which organizations support hard line anti-gay agendas. I hope more respect is engedered for homosexuals, as people, so to diminish hate crimes against them.
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Simply put! Thanks Hxprof!
Ann, We seem to think alike. Thanks for your response.
The Frog Prince says
There is a difference between tolerance and accepting hate mongering, shall we be tolerant of donations to the KKK and Aryan nation too? Discrimination is wrong, it's not a view it's a rational fact and the ethical basis for this country.
Thank you, TFP! Yes, it seems the left is attributing bad motives to donators of Christian orgs in a wide-sweeping way.
We'll have to stop donating to the Sierra Club, then. It discriminates against electric power users. And to the Democratic Party, which discriminates against Republicans. And to .. Oh, forget it. We can't donate to anything, if that's the standard.
There are plenty of Christian orgs who concern themselves with actual issues rather that discriminating. There is a big difference is discrimination between ideas and discriminating againt personal choices and biology.
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Billie Pagliolo says
The posed question has to do with does choosing to give to one type of org mean the giver hates those who are not a part of it. Agreed that Christ understands the needs of all people. (BTW, note: Rom 1:26-7; 1Cor 6:9-10 and 1Tim 1:9-11.)
with great respect, again, How are gays not part of the Christian community? If the question is "Does giving to an organization imply agreement with it's policies?" Yes! That's why buying diamonds mined by children is immoral.
Hi Billie, yes, giving to an org that actively hates gays means agreement with that activity. But, why is it assumed that any and every Christian org actively hates gays?
I'm totally with you on that last comment Ms Dee. I get your point now:) I'm a little slow on the uptake.
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