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Best Answer ahorseback says
Simple justification. Guns make it easy to kill. Add fear-mongering and demonizing whole swaths of people (the others), and you can justify anything.
Guns need to die. Die die die...just like the victims do every single day.
Do you for one second believe that if you take away these guns that the criminals are going to hand theirs in? No just millions more people will die because they couldn't protect themselves. Also EVER HEAR OF THE CONSTITUTION "lovemychris" ? Wake up.
Lovemychris , respectfully , would you then airplane fuel , highjacked airliners , cell phones , kitchen forks ? How about baby cribs ? And don't forget pillows ! You are Nieve if you think guns are the problem ,! And not the people that are angry,
If I'm angry...which do I prefer, a baby crib, or a gun??? Bang bang shoot shoot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTU2Y0VFH0E
Chris won't acknowledge that sometimes some folk just need killing.
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Efficient Admin says
Vik Beluso says
My point exactly!
"James Holmes He killed 12 people and injured 58 others, he could have killed many others but his clip jammed and he had to switch to a slower weapon."
Fort Hood. Virginia Tech. Washington snipers....Nobody mass-murders with a knife.
I mean killing in general, not mass murder. Although it would help dim down the attempts of mass murder because they would try to mess with bombs and possibly blow themselves up in the process.
these mass murders have happened over a long period of time what about the MILLIONS of people who die every year from ILLEGAL GUNS and the millions more saved BECAUSE THEY HAD A GUN TO PROTECT THEMSELVES from the criminal with the ILLEGAL guns?
If you take away a nail file, a knife will appear. Dangerous weapons will always exist.
People are the problem, not the weapons. Many serial killers killed without the use of a gun at all, but with knives, axes, etc. If any of those people that got shot by Holmes had a gun themselves, they could have shot him and saved lives.
The three largest mass murders in America occurred without a gun anywhere around. lovemychris would have us believe that there was never, ever, once in the history of mankind, a mass murder down before the invention of guns. It's the best she can do
Care to show me where I said that Burton? Just read that a father shot his 7 yr old son. I know--not the gun that did it. An assult rifle has nothing to do with the shots it fires. Nothing! Guns kill. Wacko's have them. 1+1=2
Lovemychris, where do you live? It can't be in one of the southern states.
I live in Massachusetts, where guns ...oops, people wth guns kill people every day. Happens every day everywhere, I would imagine. Not my business, I guess. Stay indoors to avoid being accidentally shot for self-defense. Your freedom, my loss of it.
Chris... one of us said "Nobody mass-murders with a knife.:
Oh... wait... that was YOU
Ah. That does give some cause of explanation. That's what you've known guns to be used for. I'm sorry that you have that view of guns. Here, we shoot them for fun.
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Sarah C Nason says
Susan Keeping says
Mark Kelly: What in the hell does it take? This isn’t enough for them?http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/11/10/gabriel...
@ lovemychris you obviously aren't using logic with your arguments. I don't like guns either but as I explained they are a necessary evil, unless you can think of a way to destroy everyone single one on the planet?
"As a nation we have repeatedly passed up the opportunity to address this issue. After Columbine; after Virginia Tech; after Tucson and after Aurora, we have done nothing."-Mark Kelly
and why have we done nothing? THE NRA. Politics and $ over people.
Once again your completely ignoring the logic...you just want to argue your position without even listening. Go to the forums if you want to just blow hot air. All the money in the world still wouldn't stop people from getting guns.
Guns are a weapon of death. You want to phrase it any other way--have at it. Guns keep the money in the world away from people who need it, and guns allow people with rage to act upon it. That right is interfering with other's well-being. Deal w it!
Guns will always exist as long as humans are in charge. Deal with it.
I disagree...is that allowed? Real humans don't need to kill each other to be happy. I don't recognize your idea of being human. That is my right....!1st amendment...you know, the one you guys like to forget.
However, why is it the US only has such problems with guns? The rest of the "1st world" have a lot fewer murders by gun.
UmMm, luvmychris, what planet do you live on? DO YOU THINK that once the guns are gone for legit people that all the criminals are gonna step up and say here you go. NO THEY WILL STILL HAVE THEIR GUNS its UNAMERICAN do you know the constitution?
Sure..a well-regulated militia. Not killing someone because he plays his music too loud.
Or is the wrong one walking in your neighborhood. Responsibilty comes with it, and that is what we are lacking. WHY you want a gun should be part of the equation
Ignorance is an instrument of death. If you ban guns, people who mass murder will just find another way to mass murder. It won't stop human nature, is my point. If it's in your nature to kill, you'll find a way to kill no matter what.
lmc blames an inanimate object for the sins of evil people. Reminds me of my favorite Bible verse in Genesis where Cain asked his brother, Abel, "Crikey, mate, where did you get that Glock?"
Oh Lucy!....'Splain to me how a well-regulated militia equals an arsenal that would fend an army! Or an assault rifle that loads 100 shot. Or a silencer, so that no one hears the kill.....military-grade weaponry on the streets....that in there too?
Does no one want to answer why gun violence is worse in the US than elsewhere?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr: Fox News Has Divided Country In A Way Not Seen Since Civil War http://ow.ly/fWylw . One BIG reason. "Tiller the baby Killer" "Obama hates white people". And of course, the feeling among many that the NRA owns pols.No guns No $
@Uninvited Writer to answer your question, it's because other 1st world countries totally ban guns or anything but hunting rifles. But our black market is much bigger than those places. And it gives criminals & government all the power, no revolt
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Jack Burton says
No I agree. I for sure think it's insane. We have a Constitution for a reason. That is our right for a reason. We fought for our Constitution what give anyone the right to take that away?
Candy... you really don't know that since 1934 there have been extensive laws concerning "automatic weapons" and "machine guns" with many hoops and hurdles to jump thru to own one? It never hurts to do basic research ~before~ you post an opinion.
It's actually not easy to get a gun, at least not legally. There's a 10 day waiting period, many states outlaw fully automatic guns etc, the problem is the black market. Which will never be stopped, unfortunately.
Then it must be the instilled fear and lack of proper care by the State towards its citizens.
Why do you expect the government to "look after" you? Didn't you learn how to do that for yourself by the end of high school?
It's our right to have guns, the Constitution wasn't written to be revised period. Those are our Rights, you let them take one of them away the rest will go down the drain. Nobody has the right to take our Constitution and alter it PERIOD.
Thank God we changed the Constitution, or you wouldn't be able to vote!
The purpose of government is to run the country and take care of its citizens. Compare the US to Britain or Canada (education, health care, etc.) and you'll understand what I'm getting at. Some people forget the obligation of the State.
Some people make up an obligation of the state because they need someone else to take care of them.
Dearest Jack, it's when the government turns its back on its people that problems arise and swell. Haven't you ever wondered why there are so many hideous crimes in the States? Much worse than anywhere else not at war. Wake up.
It's not the gvt that turned its back, it's the people who told the gvt to butt out. You heard it: some people need killing, and he's going to decide who. Just do it in Fla where you can claim self-defense, even if you chase someone down. NRA bought
Yes, Chris, when a thug is in my home at 3:00 in the morning with the intent to do me and my family ill, I do not depend upon you or the government to save us from harm... I take care of it myself by stopping the invader in the most practical way.
I get it. You have the right to kill if and when necessary to defend your life... but you do not need an ak47 to do it. And you shouldn't be able to conceal and carry in a BAR. Or have guns in a SCHOOL. The rest of us have rights too, you know.
Folk nationally legally carry in bars/schools daily with no harm. If u can't do it without hurting others doesn't mean we are as incapable. Your "right to be scared" doesn't determine my freedoms. My hub on assault weapons shows AKs.truthfully.
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No, but they go to jail for it.....gun nuts want to make murder a justifiable option. "Ooops, it was self-defense"
lovemychris you've made my point: No, they don't stop doing them. If guns are illegal, people won't stop buying them. They won't magically disappear; the only change is that they will only be in the hands of criminals via underground sellers.
Chris believes that police and the justice system are just too incapable and stupid to know the difference between justifiable self defense and murder. (betcha because ALL self defense is the same as "murder" to her).
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