Why does the department of homeland security need 450 million rounds of hollow p

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  1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image80
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years ago

    Why does the department of homeland security need 450 million rounds of hollow point bullets?

    Hollow point bullets are the most deadly rounds there are, and with four hundred and fifty million rounds, that is enough to kill everyone in the USA.  So what kind of monster supports disarming the citizens while the domestic security force is armed to kill us all?  Is there any justification for DHS to have such munitions?

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  2. lburmaster profile image72
    lburmasterposted 11 years ago

    That's a really good question and now that I know, I'm not happy about it. The Department of Homeland Security has earned a bad reputation in the past and it's not getting any better. They have no justification for that.

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image80
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Scary isn't it?  Hollow points are not cheap...and they mushroom out ...the most deadly ammo there is.  It's like our taxes have paid for our execution.

    2. lburmaster profile image72
      lburmasterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Extremely frightening. In a way our taxes have.

    3. christopheranton profile image64
      christopherantonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I dont know much about ammunition, but it seems to me that the Hollow Point bullets should go very well with their Hollow Point heads.

    4. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image80
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      HA!  Perfect Chris!

  3. LAURENS WRIGHT profile image65
    LAURENS WRIGHTposted 11 years ago

    Sure is a very interesting question, especially when the Post Office, the Weather Service and Social Services are supposed  get some of these too.  The hollow points are not used for practice, but for body damage.  These are not military issue, but for  domestic use and the hollow point bullets have been banned by the Geneva convention.  The military uses 9mm and .45 normally, so what is behind this?  Also, what does the DHS need bullet proof booths with stop and go lights or anti-radiation (radiation fall-out) pills ?

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image80
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think it means the international bankers/federal reserve fully intend on collapsing the economy, and causing massive riots.

    2. Pollyannalana profile image61
      Pollyannalanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      As I said, there is a plan, we will find out when it is too late I feel sure. America has sat on her thumbs too long while this administration has made fools of us all.  Almost half of the US cheering them on, real Americans know better.

  4. justom profile image59
    justomposted 11 years ago

    Since everyone else just thinks what you're saying is fact I guess it's up to me to ask where you got the info on this. Show me proof :-)

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image80
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well Tom, not to be an ass - but I don't fetch links for people any more...it is a fact though.
      Fuck...just because it's you:  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why-is- … t-bullets/

    2. justom profile image59
      justomposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well you didn't have to fetch really. Telling me it was a blog would have worked. That ain't proof, all that shit is probably public records so if it came from the source....maybe I'd think about it :-P

  5. junkseller profile image79
    junksellerposted 11 years ago

    Seems to me that law enforcement personnel use hollow points as standard issue and use the same ammo for duty, training, and qualification. Nothing odd about that.

    While 450 million sounds like a lot it is a maximum amount and is over a five year span. Also, the DHS oversees 135,000 armed agents, so that many bullets is just 3,333 bullets per agent for five years. That is only 12 bullets a week, which actually doesn't sound like very much. Nothing odd about that either, and actually with such a large bulk purchase they should get a really good deal. You'd think people would be happy about that.

    For a guy who complains about the mass media, you sure seem to buy into some junk media. I don't get it. I understand your anti-government sentiments, but worrying about the ammo they buy seems like complaining about the type of rope the nooesman is using. We shouldn't have ever voted yes to the DHS in the first place. Do you realize they have more employees than General Motors? It's pretty astonishing when you think about it.

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image80
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Really, so what you are saying is there enough "terrorist" in America for each DHS agent to kill twelve per week?

    2. junkseller profile image79
      junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Law enforcement personnel have to regularly qualify and train with their weapons. 50 rounds/month is only 4 magazines worth. Personally that seems like the bare minimum of practice they should be getting.

    3. Attikos profile image82
      Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hollow point bullets are not training ammunition.

    4. junkseller profile image79
      junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      They are according to the purchaser. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08 … purchases/

    5. Attikos profile image82
      Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, if the bureaucracy says so, then it must be true.

    6. junkseller profile image79
      junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Can you point to a single major law enforcement agency in the country (US) which does not use hollow points as standard issue or that doesn't train/qualify with their duty ammo? I can't. I guess Infowars knows better though.

    7. tirelesstraveler profile image60
      tirelesstravelerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So there are more DHS officer than Border patrol agents.  Last week a discussion I heard on the radio put that around 13,000 agents and about 5,000 of them were not officers, but personal who deal with legal immigrants.

  6. profile image0
    ahorsebackposted 11 years ago

    Any realist gun toting American patriot knows that no government can control its  people .......if the people are thus armed too ! Gorrllla warfare will always win the day . Thank a gun owner for insuring your continued freedoms !.............You're welcome !................:-} 

    Note -homeland security , like the national guard is made up of regular Americans . Most of that ammo , would be turned against a rouge  government .

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image80
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I like the way you think!

    2. Pollyannalana profile image61
      Pollyannalanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry I missed this...wish I was as sure of that, but it appears to me a large portion of US people seem to be blind to this administration, their dictatorial action and lack of beneficial action. Americans seem to be the minority in America now...

  7. Angela Blair profile image68
    Angela Blairposted 11 years ago

    Having recently watched DHS in action I have no faith in them whatsoever about anything. I'd suppose they need enough ammunition to round up all Americans that don't agree with the government and place them in the prisons that have already been built to hold thousands in this country -- they're ready as we speak. Take note -- the razor wire points inward only.

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image80
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      For our own protection too they say!

    2. Pollyannalana profile image61
      Pollyannalanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I have no faith in them either and they are a prime example that Americans are not the ones running our country as many think to say no to a corrupt government...they are a part of it.

  8. Attikos profile image82
    Attikosposted 11 years ago

    There are 320 million of us, and you're talking about government employees here. You can't expect them to hit the target first try. They're going to need those extra rounds.

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image80
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Unless, of course, traitors like Bloomberg and Feinstein have their way hmm

  9. profile image0
    Justsilvieposted 11 years ago

    This same tired headline has been used a number of times.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ssabullets.asp

    I am sure you wont believe them I am sure they are also in on the plot to take over and kill us all!

  10. Pollyannalana profile image61
    Pollyannalanaposted 11 years ago

    I was just asking this same questions so glad to find it. I also saw they are ceasing the sale of these bullets to anyone else! Something is happening.

    1. Attikos profile image82
      Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It has come out that DHS purchases of ammunition are 1.2 billion rounds, far more than previously admitted. That is what has dried up supplies on the local markets. It may be the purpose is precisely that: to buy it all up so you can't get any.

    2. Pollyannalana profile image61
      Pollyannalanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, that could be it. They set many on the alert too quick to get it all though and have no way of knowing who has what.
      Also the crooks who got the guns from the supply Obama sold also have an ammunition supply as large.

 
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