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Best Answer Mitch Alan says
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Karre Schaefer says
I see a sovereign citizen, not as an anarchist, but, instead as an individual who understands person liberty. The Constitution was set up to protect the people from a tyrannical federal government, not to protect the people from themselves.
Mitch -- let me rephrase. The Constitution is to protect from a tyrannical fed. govt. The desire for govt to exist in the first place creates a social contract to protect from a natural human state of being. ps: I didn't say govt was good at it.
Karre, Thank you for the clarification. I do believe there is a need for government, even a federal one, but only one constrained by the Constitution. One that is truly of, by and for the People.
Mitch. I completely agree with you. I was answering why the FBI would lump the sovereign citizen (as defined by the FBI) into a terrorist grouping.Obviously, there are lots of complicated issues and SCs have valid points that many citizens share.
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Sid Kemp says
I stand corrected on my simple explanation of the Constitution's purpose. I want to think on your 4th point & the third alt & get back. You have made excellent points and are "right on." And you did a great job clarifying and laying this out.
Karre - Thank you, and I hope we continue the conversation. In re-thinking, you might read Jefferson, Lincoln (address to Lyceum Springfield), Thoreau's On Civil Disobedience, and Gandhi. Nothing like original sources to inspire a clear mind.
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Reality Bytes says
There is no higher authority over your life than yourself? Try not paying your federal, state, and local taxes or try building a building on your own property without a permit, and see if you still think we are "Sovereign."
Your soverign rights were relinquished in 1933 unless tou claim it back. The problem; they never told you that they took it in the first place.
Mininfo -- can you elaborate on your last comment? Thanks!
Just because government violates the sovereignty of its citizens does not make it right or legal. Government has a requirement to redress our grievances but fails. This makes them wrong not us. One step at a time, jury nullification!
The united states is a corporation and its citizens stock. The common currency up until 1933 was Gold and bills were used to represent Gold. Gold was then replaced by the virtual currency and every citizen was made stock. You have a set value.
I have several hubs on these subjects. Not trying to self promote, so I will not insert links, but they are there. :)
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Praveen P.V. Nair says
The point percisely of a soverign citizen is to disconnect from federal authority. It is therefore encumbant upon the individual of his own choosing to abey only those laws outside of himself that are in his best interest. Rogue citizenship?