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Best Answer P. Thorpe Christiansen says
Thanks duffsmom. You are correct. Assisted suicide is legal in four states. Active euthanasia is illegal in all states. My question was improperly phrased. I apologize for my error...
I agree. Life is a personal journey. In the U.S. allow the death penalty and Pro-Choice and yet there are those who want to control what a person decides to do with their (own) life. It makes no sense. I really enjoyed the movie Million Dollar Baby
Hi peeples. Chronic pain and depression are not random. Opiates relieve physical pain, but not emotional pain. That's where medications for depression may be of use. Interestingly, half who have been given suicide pills decide against using them.
Which goes to prove these people are mostly of sound minds. I would think anti depressants would be a bad idea (mostly) for someone already debating suicide. The majority of them cause a list of side effects which could make things worse.
Peeples, Sometimes anti-depressants do help, and with very minor side effects, simply because they can help restore hope. If you are at all open to other perspectives, Denial of the Soul by M. Scott Peck fully addresses this controversy.
I agree 100%.
As someone who takes anti-depressants I can tell you that their success is highly over rated. Almost all have bad side effects at a dosage high enough to work.
Opiates are also highly over rated in their effectiveness at controlling pain.
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Billie Kelpin says
Billie Kelpin,, I am so sorry for your losses, but I feel grateful somehow that you were there for your loved ones during their final days. The dying should always be given ample medication to die a natural, peaceful death; this is essential..
I suspect that "to die a natural, peaceful death" bit is to make the process a bit more comfortable for those looking on. It doesn't give much consolation to the person about to die.
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rose-the planner says
Thanks,rose-the-planner. Good answer; it makes reasonable sense. As you said, I hope neither of us has to find ourselves in that dilemma.
Thank you, Borsia. I am glad you are better, though I wish you didn't have to deal with pain. My aunt has terminal cancer. Before using morphine, she was in excruciating pain. Now she is lucid and pain free. She smiles, interacts and is at peace.
what is so hard to see is that the pain is still there and I'm so very sad to say that it will get worse. Many people deny it and tell their friends and family "it isn't that bad".
I hope she can pass easily and I wish you and her love & peace.
B, Thank you for your well wishes. Rest assured, my aunt isn't one to pretend for anyone. Morphine does remove pain, though not the illness. Here is a useful site: http://www.hospicenet.org/html/pain_myths.html
Very well said, Borsia. It's not " rooted in good medicine or good science," and why should I or anyone be subject to the religious beliefs of someone else? Personal choice is paramount.
Hi Johnny, My point is that hospice offers more than some know, including sedation if pain gets worse. Sedation differs from euthanasia. Let's be clear. I do believe in a soul, but I also believe the dying should not feel pain. Hospice can help.
Why would you want to lay in horrible pain so sedated that you can't think straight as the pain gets worse and worse,,, what is the point?
I only hope that if I am in such a position I am able to get about enough to take matters into my own hands.
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Christin Sander says
Hi ChristinS. You may have jumped to conclusions. I hate pain, and I would not be able to tolerate it. I asked this question to learn more about other people's experiences.However, if I chose to live then I would hope my family would not blame me.
you were talking about euthanasia vs pain care and I was stating why I think it should be and why I would choose that over pain management. I don't believe I jumped to conclusions sorry if you took it that way.
My thoughts exactly.
Hi Christin, as you said..."great, more power to you. If it doesn't to someone else, then don't make assumptions about that person's judgment." Words are sometimes misleading. Sounds like we both agree that it is wise not to make assumptions.
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