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I meant to say It's impossible for any president to go 8 years (without) a scandal in his cabinet.
I find it interesting that "rich elitist" also describes most of our founding fathers, those who wrote the Constitution, and made up the first Congress or so. It wasn't until later that more or less regular citizens got voted in. We do love circles
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Of all the news outlets available in this country, I rate Fox last and MSNBC next to last. Their bias is so blatant, it defies all the aspects of good journalism.
Adding to Larry. And those networks have erased the line between disrespecting Pres Obama, the man, and disrespecting the office of the President of the United States. And have basically called the majority that voted for Obama a bunch of idiots.
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My Esoteric says
IRS scandal not a scandal ??? Over 300 conservative groups all held up in perpetuity. About 12 liberal groups are held up half of which get subsequent approval. And the WH Chief counsel is directly reviewing the Tea Party apps. Give me a break
That might be an indication of the predominance of Right-wing groups trying to get undeserved non-profit status. Shouldn't that be the scandal?
Actually nothing was found in virtually all of the apps that should have disqualified them from tax exempt status. And the numbers of total apps was less than prior years. They just chose to single out political opposition as per Chief Counsel.
Benghazi Scandal - grossly improper behavior
IRS Scandal - a circumstance that causes disgrace
NSA Scandal - a publicized incident that offends the moral sensibilities of society.
Was the Challenger explosion a scandal? Do we blame Kennedy, Johnson or Nixon for the Vietnam scandal. I think Clinton was president with the USS Cole was captured. Every event is not a scandal. It is a much overused and misused word.
No but when the WH claims nobody knew anything about extra scrutiny of political opposition, and it was just a few rogue agents. Then we find Chief Counsel was reviewing applications of political opponents...and many in the WH knew...it's a scandal
again, these comments are twisted versions of the truth, or should i say they are typical fox news reporting. Making blanket statements that put down the president is not proof of anything. the author of this ? is notorious for this tactic.
Who needs FOX, all we have to do is play the video tape of the WH spokesman Jay Carney telling a different story every time out. I can't help but feel bad for him. They made him quite the sacrificial lamb.
Obama is lying as usual. He has so many scandals and they are increasing that it is not even funny. Obama is making Bush look like a choir boy. In fact, Bush had NO scandals at all!
There have been no scandals in the Obama administration. The alleged scandals have been manufactured by the likes of Darrell Issa who has plenty of real scandals himself. If you don't believe me read his Wikibio here.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa
No Scandals here...Just lying about what happened and trying to pin it on some "Rogue Agents" when in fact they knew the truth months earlier.
My Esoteric conveniently forgets the following:
Fast and Furious
ICE agents suing Secretary Napolitano for not letting them do their jobs
False accusation of reporter James Rosen
Seizing phone records of AP reporters
Did I miss any?
One test for telling sociopaths from just bad guys is to ask jaywalking is more or less serious than robbery. Sociopaths don't see the difference. You are wanting me to see no difference between F & F and the Iraq war; well, I do see a differe
Yeah, Bombing Libya and trying to do the same in Syria in order to arm Al Qaeda linked rebels makes him a good guy. Using the IRS to target political enemies like Nixon, and covering up Benghazi to win an election all make him just misunderstood.
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Audrey Selig says
"The Government has become so political that one never knows what to believe." Government is always political. Check every presidency for scandal. JKF--Bay of Pigs, FDR--Not prepared for WWII, Nixon Watergate, Carter, Hostages---out of room for rest
brakel2-you are right.
Larry-You are utilizing the same blame game as Obama.
I was not born until after WWII-I could not fix it
I am too young for Bayo Pigs-so could not fix it
Watergate was fixed
Hostages-I assisted Reagan to fix
Obama needs fixed
Taburkett. Events create scandals. Scandals do not create events. Are you saying that Obama pertetrated Benghazi, IRS and NSA? Since all agencies we have can't prove that or even imply that, how can you? You seem to have personal resentment.
Taburkett, I was born after WWII. I am not playing a blame game. I am pointing out historical facts and Reagan did not fix the hostage situation. Carter and Kissinger fix it--Reagan got credit. I see you are a veteran, have you ever had any trust?
THANK YOU, total concur!
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Shawn McIntyre says
Landmark. I've read a lot of your stuff and this response disappoints me. Do you really believe the media is in anyone's corner but their own? No one is immune from a media stab in the back.
Can you name any 2nd term president who was not thrust with one scandal after another concerning him or his cabinet? It's tradition for the opposition parties to keep the sitting president on defense in hopes of electing their own candidate next time
The media is far more hesitant to report on anything negative about Obama when compared to Bush as an ex. With Bush they plastered fake National Guard documents all over the news. With Obama, it's always reported in a defensive characterization.
The Benghazi and IRS are scandals of a magnitude that even Nixon did not commit! Benghazi and IRS are the SCANDALS of the millenium!
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Oscar Jones says
Better WAKE UP before America becomes a totalitarian society.
Larry Wall says
Amazing. A sensible answer. I agree with your assessment of his presidency. Not the best, but not up there with Grant, Buchanan, Fillmore, etc.
I never made a mistake that caused the deaths of others
I never hid my college records or other records when in public office
It is necessary to demand answers to the lies being spread
And, I must disagree He is our worst President in my lifetime.
You are entitled to your opinion. Most of us are not in a position to cause the death of others by sending them to war. Have you served in public office--if so what. You think Mr. Obama is worse that Herbert Hoover--the great depression?
Larry - yes Obama is worse than Hoover
Hoover - combat Depression with government efforts, tariffs, an increase in the top tax bracket
Obama has done the same and has also spent more wildly than Hoover.
Hoover only served one term - thus Obama worse
Your logic evades me. Obama is serving a second term because the people, remember them, elected him. So those who elected him are apparently at fault using your logic. So much for liberty. Hoover was worse, there were signs and he ignored them.
That explains why Hoover was a 1 term pres. You are right. The media can sway an election, but a political party can sway the media. Therefore, most scandals have ulterior motives other than finding the truth.
I fail to understand defending Obama - he is UNDOUBTEDLY the worst president in history and is screwing up this country like no one before him. The only saving grace is that he is inexperienced and quite incompetent otherwise it could be much worse.
Hmmmm, causing the needless deaths of 1000's of Americans in Iraq and allowing the greatest economic collapse since the Great Depression to occur because of his economic philosophy must be a good thing in your book.
@My Esoteric - so replacing a mediocre president with an absolutely terrible one is all right in YOUR book.
Are you saying my description of Bush simply makes him mediocre while Obama, who didn't start one war, let alone two, who got us out of the Great Conservative Recession, stopping a depression at the same time, and insuring 30 million is worse??
The recession ended before he signed a single piece of legislation in March of 2009. And insuring 30 million is a stretch as people all over are getting dropped from their insurance or getting cut to part time as a result of this so called reform.
No, the recession ended in July 2009, according to the NERB. What few of the people getting dropped (and the part-time move was happening for other reasons) have other or access to insurance just like the 30 million who didn't on Sept 30, 2013.
The data was revised for all economic data dating back to 1929 several months ago. Under the old methodology it was March 2009. Either way irrelevant, since nothing had been implemented until nearly year end. Access to insurance and no Job..helpful
Sorry off a month, June, not July. Market did 180 as soon as Pres acted in March, tax piece took effect in April, unemployment piece, immediately, State piece, April or May. Only jobs piece was long, and that was known. Depression with Rep plan.
LOL. the market did a 180 because the technicals hit support levels. And when the law is signed is not when the money is dispersed. TARP was signed in 2008 and still getting distributed in 2010. If you use July then the data is from months earlier.
History will record George W. Bush as a far better president than Obama - mark my words.
Bush v. Obama: Bush got us into two foolish, costly unnecessary wars; Obama ended one and is winding down the other. Bush passed an unfunded Medicare drug plan which was written by the big drug companies; Obama signed AHC which will help reduce costs
last time I checked Obama bombed Libya, and tried to Bomb Syria. And if you think the ACA will reduce premiums, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you in Brooklyn.Costs are skyrocketing already. But you're correct about the medicare Drug Bill, bad idea
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Brenda Durham says
More than that, he is an extremely dangerous, pathological, power hungry dictator. He is making Bush seem very, very mild in comparison. He has carried out the same policies and warmongering mentality as Bush. .
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Ralph Deeds says
So -you are ready to give up your freedom and Constitutional Rights.
Abuse of power is being touted as phony scandal by the individual that created the scandals.
As some said below, the "real" scandal is the "malicious" misuse of the English language to paint somebody as evil, who in fact is probably a better person than those slinging the false accusations.
Taburkett: I do not think anyone is giving up except you. There have been strong presidents and weak presidents and all had their supporters and detractors. Just state it that you would not like President Obama no matter what he did, except resign.
I agree! Both parties are guilty of doing this to 2nd term presidents. The goal is always to effect next election!
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