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Tell me how to stop them and I will do it! lol If that were you or I our butts would be in jail pdq!
To quote Cassius in "Julius Caesar," Caesar is a lion because we are lambs.
It is our own fault for not fighting back every time we have a chance. We should NEVER settle for second best.They get in the habit of underestimating us.
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Landmark Wealth, stop spewing all that logic! We live in an era of technologically advanced gremlins and here you are living in the dark ages of rationality. Next you'll be telling us the the earth is round and the moon isn't made of cheese!
And 19 men out-flanked the entire United States Military Apparatus-learned to fly planes, but not land, and spying on citizens started with Obama.
Another delusional comment totally irrelevant to the conversation by lovemychris. We could be talking about baked potatoes and the response is an insane delusional 9-11 conspiracy theory theory.
Nope--just pointing out that your conspiracy theories are just as ridiculous to me, as mine are to you. You do not hold the truth, nor the entitlement to ridicule. Get used to it.
Every tech expert has said the IRS response is ridiculous. That is not a conspiracy theory...that is called factual expertise by professionals. Unlike your insane 9-11 theories debunked by countless experts in the engineering field.
HA! There are thousands of experts who say the official story is hogwash. The commission report is flawed, incomplete and a huge whitewash.Even Bob Kerry, who was on it, says maybe in 30 yrs, we'll get the truth.I say they already know, and will deal
I will ask you again as I have before...Please cite an academic pier reviewed study that justifies any of the wild 9-11 conspiracy theories. I don't want to hear about political theories. Scientific explanations only...There aren't any
The Military Apparatus and Posse Comitatus would be a good place to start your research.
Ironically lovemychris is accusing President Obama of being an accessory after the fact with his current access to all of our national security info if any of her outlandish 9-11 conspiracy theories were remotely accurate.
Then all the irony must be unconscious because one must be connected with reality to be conscious of the irony. If Bush is such a criminal why is he not being prosecuted right now by our brave President?
Don't you know...because the Bush adm still has secret assassins roaming the White House threatening to kill Obama if he reveals the truth about Dick Cheney blowing up the towers. It's so obvious !!! LOL
No, actually, according to this man, it was Daddy Bush who threatened Obama:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8pumETwEYo. He was subsequently poisoned. Remember Tillman, shot execution style? Play along, or die.
Ohh...then it must be true. Lost me at "derivatives are illegal" which might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. We should meet in person one day. There is a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. It's a great investment
How about Daddy Bush working for the 4th Reich, located in Dachau?Crazy too, huh?Until you read abut the treatment of prisoners at AbuGharib-that type of sadism is quite unique.Used by Nazi's--same underlying theme: enjoyment. Derivative=imaginary $
Yeah Bush 41 was shot down in WW2 as a fighter pilot and then decided to switch sides...that makes sense. Let me know when you have the certified autopsy report from the ME's office that shows Story was poisoned. Or is the ME's office in on it also
I think so. No one even knew he was dead for 16 days. It's OK tho--you all are Fair Weather Skeptics... Cause all the Obama scandals surely are true, aren't they? http://benjaminfulford.com/Edward.html
So essentially you have no autopsy report or any other such actual evidence from a credible source to back these or any other outlandish claims. Obama's scandals are a result of nothing more than...as Bill Clinton calls him...an incompetent leader.
Nope--anymore than those who claim Obama is a Kenyan Muslim terrorist out to destroy America with the Muslim Brotherhood.....It's called Opinion. But I do know 3 facts: Bush adm tortured, lied us into war, and broke FISA law. All of which no one paid
People that claim Obama is a terrorist are as delusional as you. They have seen too many Oliver Stone movies. And none of those three accusations about the Bush Adm are even close to factual outside the conspiracy theorist diluted mind.
Well, one if them asked this question. Would LOVE to see you speak to her that way! Would be a 1st. And are you serious? All 3 are true, and they got away with it, scott free. CPAC wanted Cheney to run for prez in 2012! Some people never learn-repeat
Well I am getting quite tired of these people getting by with their crimes and even go on collecting their checks from us. It needs to stop!
None of it is true except in the world of the conspiracy theorist. Ex...What you call torture (water boarding...sleep depravation) is actually basic training for our Special Forces. Every Navy Seal has to experience this in SERE training
I can smell the crazy through my computer monitor.
oops...watch your hard drive!
lovemychris is most certainly a bit unstable...but I will give credit where credit is due. Certainly entertaining in her fantasies. Each encounter on hubpages with her makes me think I should have been a psychotherapist. Greatly entertaining.
This brand of crazy would never make my drive hard
"the administration did not bother going to the FISA Court for authorization to eavesdrop and it did not bother to comply with any of the requirements of the FISA law" Anal rape,burned w cigarettes,standing in sewage-murder."Saddam working w B.laden"
And the high court upheld the ability to use warrantless wiretaps whether you agree or not. So it's legal. Nobody claimed Sadam worked with Binladen. They said he might do so because of earlier communication with his regime.
Obama has pushed for expansion of those Bush era "abuses." He is doing such a fine job after killing Bin Laden with his bare hands that Al Qaeda is poised to take Iraq and possibly Syria. Two thumbs way up, Barry!
Yeah...but he is only expanding the wiretapping because Bush Sr told him to do it or they would kill him...just like when the Bush family ordered the death of Princess Diana. I don't know how you aren't seeing this. You just need a tinfoil hat.
Was that before or after the secret meeting at Minot AFB with the Mossad, The Bilderbergers, Elvis and the Grays?
No-you need permission from FISA to do it, which He ignored. He was The Decider, remember?--you all LUVED his bravado, dincha? And Cheney said a Bin Laden operative met w a Saddam operative in Prague. TOTAL fabrication, just like Mushroom Clouds. SMH
Not according to the Supreme court, which is why it is still happening now on an expanded scale, whether we agree or not it was ruled legal. And they pointed to numerous potential risks such as Iraq harboring known terrorist like Abu Nidal for years
Before or after he did it? And cool--since the SC ruled it legal and all,maybe people can get off abortion now, since you know it was ruled legal by the SC. Riiiight. Bush broke law-just cause they said it ok after the fact doesn't change that fact.
9th circuit in 2013 overturned the decision and said they broke no law and it's legal. SCOTUS refused to hear anything further on the matter. By definition...they didn't break the law...because the decision was reversed and deemed legal.
2013?? 10 yrs after the fact....You kidding me? That excuses nothing. At the time he did it, he broke the law. And plenty said so: https://pol.moveon.org/donate/breakingthelaw_facts...
Genius...when you're convicted of a crime you're guilty. If your conviction is overturned on appeal...then you were NEVER GUILTY TO BEGIN WITH. Otherwise prisoners would stay in jail after they win an appeal. That's what appeals are for.
Incredible how condecending you are-all of you.Such superiority! When you support crooks! Bush got off because he's Bush. Which is why every other president to come deserves the same. After what they got away w,no prez is ever responsible 4 ANYthing.
How incredibly misinformed and delusional you are in your blogosphere conspiracy theories. I don't even agree with the wiretap ruling. But unlike you, I just don't make up my own facts. The court says it's legal...so it is. Hence it hasn't changed
So--will you be joining the Obama impeachment crowd, then? I mean--if it's ok to spy, start wars, torture and lie: What in the world can you have against Obama?
Wire tapping is not a reason to impeach him. If he is connected to the IRS activity or knew about it and covered it up...just like Nixon, then yes. That is yet to be determined. And since the IRS may have destroyed all evidence we may never know.
As it should be. Here's what the President said on April 20, 2004: "Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires - a wiretap requires a court order." He knew he was doing: Presidents are immune.
You're taking a statement out of context. Their position on taping potential terrorist threats during wartime was it was a military matter and different. They made various other arguments about why this program was different and the court agreed.
I'm well aware of that--just as Yoo changed the wording on torture, so Bush could get around the law. So that's the standard we live by. The prez can do whatever he/she wants-and it can be adjudicated later. This is Bush legacy, and it's same for all
"Changed the language of torture" Do you have any idea what we did to Nazi and Japanese POWs during WW2. Ask a military intelligence officer one day. The only difference between now and then is the media is looking to hang the people who protect us
Sorry-that Iraq invasion had nothing to do with protecting us. They did that for other reasons...we just paid the price. And you ask a general what it's all about:http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.h...
Back to the conspiracy blogosphere again. Not every interrogation was in Iraq. And every nations intel said the same thing whether right or wrong. Both Iraq and Afghan were mistakes only because we don't let our soldiers do their job anymore
Really? I don't recall Saddam threatening us. And he didn't do 9/11.And your conspiracy that poor Tea Party were targets and Obama did it is laughable. You are the conspiracy theorist. IRS, Benghazi: Bunch of hooey. And waste of MY money to go after!
Dear lord...The targeting of conservative groups is not a conspiracy theory. It is a crime that the IRS has already CONFESSED to doing. And on one case paid out a lawsuit settlement as a result. What we don't know is how many people were involved.
They weren't targeted, they wanted special treatment.Political groups,but paying no taxes. AS USUAL. Take take take. All the right wing accusations are cons. THEY are doing all the evil, every bit, and throwing blame at those they want you to hate.
Tell that to the IRS who already CONFESSED and then paid out a lawsuit settlement for their ADMITTED illegal activities. You'd make some lawyer. Claiming your client is innocent even after they confessed.
Where and when did the IRS admit doing something illegal and payout to a lawsuit on the targeting issue?
That's nothing to do with the tea party con. TP are political orgs, calling themselves Social welfare groups to avoid taxes...I'll admit, they take welfare, but it does no social good! The IRS was duty-bound to investigate those frauds.After CU:Big$$
That was a separate lawsuit and different issue of a leaked donor list. And there was no admission or finding of intentionality even in that one.
What the IRS did was illegal...pure and simple. Even the IRS is not debating that anymore. The question is whether it was coordinated political move above Lois Lerner. We'll probably never know since everyone cited's computer crashed upon revelation
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The head of the agency is being grilled by your boys...you can watch it on c-span. See for yourself. Or believe talk radio and Fox. They take credit for Brat's win....they also can take credit for the Obama hate.
"The head of the agency is being grilled by your boys". I guess there's no underlying sexual frustration in that statement whatsoever...
How did Brat win,Cantor had so much money and we all know money wins everything. Cantor may come out against Citizens United,except that is how he got all that LOSING MONEY.Lefties lose because they have terrible ideas.I hate getting my boys grilled
If lightening would strike all the liars in this administration our problems would be solved too quick! lol Really what astounds me more than the corrupt liars is the people who claim to believe them.
Pollyannalana, so true!
None whatsoever. What's the psychology of these members of our gvt who call Obama Boy? Or how about That One...that what?I have plenty frustation tho.Every time I turn on the teevee and see the same people who pushed the first Iraq goin for #2.Yes-#2
Oh; I think Obama will get all the credit for that as you sheeple see more and more of his dedicatedness to you! When you can't afford groceries or gas and there are drug cartel outside your windows. Let's hear you then praise him. It won't be long.
It's not gubmint who profits off oil speculation and drug cartels...unless it was during Reagan era, when they were dealing drugs. It's big biz and NRA. If they own people in gubmint, it's usually from the right religio side. History.Not talkingheads
Well the gub right now that is giving them a free pass no doubt with guns this gub gave them is the big zero.
May I ask: where do you get this information? Which drug cartels are getting a free pass? And which drug cartels did we give guns to?
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I hope these crooks have to answer for something!
The IRS has a 3rd party backup company for its e-mails, yet the are apparently still missing. Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot
If there is anything good and/or decent left in our government; they will be found. Someone, somewhere has them. Hey...maybe Snowden?
Snowden's a phony. He releases selectively, like Assange. He tells half the story, which is worse than telling none. IMO
I bet Snowden is Bush lover? He is getting ready for a new release of info. Bet that really ticks you off. You like being treated like second class I guess & being spied on. Takes all kinds. Any more serious questions I ask Bush comments will be
Maybe you should research WikiLeaks and Assange....see where Snowden is coming from. He very much a right wing neo-kook.
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No, I mean it: give this old fogey a laugh. Of course, the young ones won't know the deal, and the right will never mention it....but it would be juicy irony. Writers love that sort of thing, don't they?
"The man who broke the law points finger" USA!
and the ones she sent them to lost theirs too and their hard drives. You would have to be absolute lunatic to believe that. No one is that stupid! Not even you...
Sure I am! I'm stupid, a dimwit, an America-hater,a Jew-hater and a lazy no-good bum. That's why I believe everything they tell me, like there were wmd's and Bibi is our friend, and Bush kept us safe. That's how stupid I am.
Any business who used this asinine excuse would be excoriated by lefty media and politicians. Shredded documents, erased tapes - problem, "crashed" hard drives - no problem. It is a high tech crime but it is okay because it was lefties doing it.
Really? Mitt Romney did it when he left office as gvr of Mass....I don't recall lefty media harping on it: And certainly the same ones harping on BO now NEVER said a word about Mittens.--Did you? Did the OP? *crickets* Business spies--anyone care? No
If the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT - it is up to the people of Mass. to complain about their elected officials - can't manage to keep track of itself lefty idiots expect it to manage all of our health records. Just further proof leftism is for kooks.
He ran for president! A Mass problem? Last I looked: prez is federal position. He's also being sued for RICO violations... racketeering, to be exact. Wanna talk crime? Let's go. And start with Ollie North since you brought up shredding documents.
He was governor of Massachusetts. He is not nor has he ever been President. Since the current President is as bad as the former governor of Massachusetts, why do you find it acceptable. The governor of Mass can't reach into my state but the Prez can.
He wasn't President. The President can reach into my state, the governor of Mass cannot.One is not sued for RICO-that is a criminal statute not a civil one.So you find it acceptable for your Dems to be criminals as long as Reps were criminals first?
No, I'm saying all your outrage about Obama is pillow talk compared to the simmering anger and disgust I carry for your Reps. Mine goes back to Nixon, Kent State, MLK,RFK,JFK,Reagan, Bush, Bush and Cheney. If u think Obama is the devil incarnate: HA!
And there is the difference, I think Obama is incompetent and hates America - you think Republicans are agents of evil. I think Obama needs to go away, you think Republicans need to be exorcised. MLK, RFK,JFK ???Conspiracy theory, much?
It does seem to be cult that they just cannot see all the harm being brought against the US and how close they could be to being overran by drug lords and being massacred by extremest. I honestly believe our president is one of them.
I don't want my children to experience the horror lefties are visiting on our country.I think they will still blame Bush and complain about the 1% while Muslims are sawing their heads off with hunting knives.
Save me the Bush bull dear; I am not Republican...he sure looks better to me now than what we have,,,maybe his baby brother....
Ahhhh, muslims. Now your true colors come out....Knew it. Bush baby bro? He let those Saudi pilots train to fly and not land? NO TANKS. Second, verse, same as the first. Bush apologists pretending to be patriotic. Ha!
The E-mails were not lost, they were destroyed - that is a crime!
So is torture, invading another country on lies, and privately profiting off war, while sitting in office. AND????? What is ever done about it? Head of agency tells a different story. I believe him, not you.
He is lying, nothing new in this administration. The IRS contracted a data storage company to back up all e-mails. If they are lost it is because they were destroyed.
That is your opinion, and if it's true: AND????? Ya let Bush torture, lie,cost us a fortune--gave him all the excuses in the world....you mean to say you really care about e-mails? Then you want partisan justice, and that's no justice.
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