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It was once said, 'a compromise isn't real unless it leaves both parties feel like they've 'given up something.' Legally, I must cater your wedding; Religiously, I must give up the meaning of my marriage vows? Where is there compromise here?
R u saying that gay marriage is lesser + if it is given the same meaning, then yrs will be lesser? I'd hope the meaning of yr marriage is love, + I'd never ask u to give that up. Not enuff space 2 answer the rest - hpy 2 discus tho. ?email?
Thank you. It will take a few decades before the fear and loathing in Ireland truly subsides but the majority vote was enlightening.
Yeah. We have equality, but there are still those who fear and loathe us. I guess thats what makes life interesting - it would be boring if we all agreed with each other.
sadly the problems in Ireland have'nt ALL been solved. There's still a law on the books that allow killing gay people under the "Gay Panic Defence" law that must B removed.Many crazies in the U.S. wish that were the law here!!
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Tamara Wilhite says
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Sources for your claims? Also generalising an entire population on the actions of some...not clever - a great many gay people are in long term monog relationships. Also - seperate but equal is NOT equal. One is always viewed lesser.
Except 'equal but seperate' isn't equal. Similar arguments were used when giving African Americans the same rights to white Americans. Do we really want to go there again? I'm not having a go - I'm just pointing it out
Jacqui: i agree. redefining marriage for some is just another form of discrimination. No loving union should be a threat to anyone. Religion should have no say in this legal matter.
Equal is equal. 2 gays have worked hard for equal rights which they should have. However, to call the union which they enjoy, 'marriage,' make a mockery of the UNION that I enjoy with my husband. Another word? UNION? COMMITMENT? My rights? UNEQUAL.
It's strange how 1 person can feel that giving some 1 else equal rights infringes on their personal lives. Love is love & no love between heterosexuals is better than any other love. it's denying others the same rights that's the mockery
You seem more intent upon proving me wrong than on proving you right. Why bring up religion vs. legality debate; no one advocates legality or illegality. Rights not infringed. bur My rights? Since love is love, it can exist under another moniker.
Ur missing the point. By categorizing same sex couples as different from you, ur are implying that this minority is of lesser value than you are.
If it's equal to yours why is it taking away from yours if it's called marriage? Why does it need another name? If UNION is equal, how about callin them all that, and take away the wor marriage - or would that make u feel yrs was lesser?
Thank you, butI'm a bit confused - you say equal rights for all but then want to call it something other than marriage. Surely equal means just that - the same treatment for all regardless of sexual orientation, under the law. No conditions attached.
ANY 1 who opposes a minority for ANY reason has a: "i am better than you" complex. Sad but true.
teamrn...a "marriage" = "union"="contract"="Legally binding promise/vow " WHY R U bent on verbiage? Might you prefer a lesbian be referred to as other than "woman?" "female?".bcuz U think these terms refer to only heterosexual women? NONSENSE.
Obviously, I am black -- and I have been black for nearly seven decades. And I say, When to arguing for "gay rights," leave blacks out of it. And that is because having black skin is nowhere close to merely having homosexual proclivities.
feenix: the only similarity between being gay & being black is the discriminatory aspect. Pointing out how stupid it was to discriminate against blacks to show how stupid it is to discriminate against gay, or any other minority.
A great many blacks, including me, despise the fact that homosexuals are comparing themselves to us. We are sick and tired of it. Unfortunately, we can't speak out against it, because we will be labeled homophobes.
F: that is funny.the ratio of gays in the black community is no different than any other group.Using the discrimination of other groups of the past has nothing 2 do with relating gay 2 blacks any more so than 2 whites. Paranoia also present in both
It was 2 show just how stupid discrimination is - regardless of colour or orientation. We look bak on history and realise how stupid it was black/white - it will b the same soon. Neither u or I can change who we r - y is discrimination against me ok?
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William J. Prest says
I care not for what religious leaders or politicians think. You seem to feel because I'm not for gays calling themselves MARRIED, that I'm against equal rights. Not so. Just don't call the RELATIONSHIP a 'marriage' Be creative: a UNION? COMMITMENT?.
Not sure if it was to me, teamrn, or this answer - if me - it's not that I think u r against equal rights - I'm just confused as 2 y if u aren't, they need 2 b seperate? If yrs was called 'union' not marriage, how would u feel?
Thank you, a radical statement - I look forward to your article!
teamrn...I don't think anyone cares what you're FOR or against. None of us get to make up our own specific RULES. What applies to one group, applies to all, in terms of equality. You don't get a monopoly on the term, "marriage." It's a word.
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