Is the riots in Milwaukee a race issue or a crime issue or an economic issue?

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   jackclee lmposted 7 years ago

   Is the riots in Milwaukee a race issue or a crime issue or an economic issue?
   
   Once the details of this police shooting is known, what is your opinion of what went on in the immediate aftermath of riots and mayhem? What do you think is causing this?

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   Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years ago

   
   
   Not much difference between this and other BLM (http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2015/11 … atter-now/ ) trumped up causes. The guy shot was shot by a black officer because while fleeing the officers he turned and pointed a stolen gun with a 20 round clip at them.
   
   The riots afterward, 5 businesses burned down, officer's cars destroyed, etc. was perpetrated by young hoodlums all with criminal records.
   
   This is purely a criminal event, felons using a justified shooting (by a black cop, racism?) to unleash anarchy and destruction.
   
   But, so what? BLM, Obama, all those race baiters known as the Democrat party leadership will be out there like always, ignoring the facts and fostering division and unrest.

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      LoliHeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I don't understand why anyone sympathizes with these people.  It's insane.  The "victim" may have a rap sheet miles long, and point a gun at cops, but so what?  The cops are the bad guys, right?  How dare they try to enforce the law!

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      DTMB
      I agree, and I also believe that Poverty in these Urban areas is the real trigger for these blks rioting. They have nothing to lose& they don't like businesses because that means jobs&money. dem party want their vote,so they give hand ou

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You got it right! The poverty is all a direct result of decades of liberal Democrat Party leadership&policies which by design keep them in poverty. Just look after 8 years of BO all the black statistics have gotten worse,he doesn't care

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      somethgblueposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Blaming one parties politics over another's is the old Divide and Conquer agenda, its pointless because then you miss the big picture and become a victim yourself. Be a solution not a victim!

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      What do you think is the picture?

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      No one is blaming anyone.It's the facts,if u don't face up to the facts,which the liberals never do,the same mistakes r repeated decade after decade resulting in what you have in Milwaukee,50 yrs of"progressive"rule & policies Want more?

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      somethgblueposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Control, by manipulating the public to do what they have been conditioned to do, play the role of the victim, point the finger at others, when ALL the answers are within.
      
      Create a new paradigm within your heart and project that energy outwards!

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      What, and sound and behave like a new age wacko? Good luck with that Somethg.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      something blue
      We can't even get the congress and the president to work for the people, what are the chances of getting people to act for other people?

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       somethgblueposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       The misconception is that it doesn't need to be a group effort, although would be nice, we can do this individually. Go through your entire day projecting positive energy to all in every situation and it will snowball. Positive energy feeds itself!

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       Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Yes positive energy is destroying terrorist groups throughout the world, you see them every day dropping their arms and preaching peace. world poverty is disappearing because of the simple principle of positive energy, it's so simple.

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       somethgblueposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Sarcasm is a form of denial, fear and playing the role of the victim. Positive energy isn't a weapon of destruction, it is way of giving and loving unconditionally. Their will always be those that fear change and embrace their conditioning.

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       Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       There is no such thing as positive energy,u can't measure or define it.U are talking about a positive attitude.A muslim suicide bomber who is thinking positively about going to heaven & getting 72 virgins,doesn't result in love or peace

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       jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Somethgblue, if it is not the policies of Democratic party in these cities, what else is there? It is revealed recently that Soros is calling the shots with the DNC and influencing policy domestic and foreign. What do you say to that?

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       jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       I've deleted some comments. Please keep debate civil and follow the rule of 3. If after 3 back and forth, just agree to disagree and move on.

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       Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Bravo Jack, it's that positive energy, it really works! OK, I apologize, now go ahead, delete this too, I just couldn't let it go.Haven't had that much fun in a while!

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   bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years ago

   This is a black issue caused by their failure to get out of poverty, crime, and make an adequate living from a job. Much of that is caused by democrats keeping them dependent on handouts.
   
   The Milwaukee incident shows that these Blacks don't have a righteous cause. The shooting was done by a black cop facing a black man refusing to put down his gun. Then the black mob destroys 6 businesses, one of them was setting a gas station on fire. This is more of an act based on their poverty, so they trash local business. How are these businesses to blame for anything.
   
   Their real problem is generated by congress and especially the left. They want these poor black urban economically depressed places to be their voting pool, instead of bringing jobs and prosperity into their communities, they want them to be their black pit bulls.
   
   If congress improved their life styles and living conditions, and provide job opportunities like those that existed in the 1950s, it would go a long way to solve the real cause of these riots, Poverty!

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      LoliHeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I think welfare and Affirmative Action did them in.  Made things worse.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, it certainly didn't help them. Today is the proof.

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      Kenny MGposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Only blacks on welfare? What is the percentage of blacks on welfare compare to whites? What a way we use these private mediums to express bigotry and hate? Rioting is wrong. A principle in chemistry, the greater the action, the greater the reaction.

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   iggy7117posted 7 years ago

   From what I hear, A black officer shot the boy after he was stopped for acting suspicious, he ran and then pointed a gun at the officers. I can not see this as a race issue in any way,
   
   Now they are tearing up the city because an officer shot the suspect in a justifiable manner in defense of his own life. It was announced in the news that the suspect had more bullets in his gun than the officer had.
   
   Blacks are shooting blacks every night, black children are getting hit with stray bullets from black gang bangers. And the only time anyone stands up is when a police officer with a gun pointed at him shoots the suspect in defense of his own life.
   
   This is wrong, stop carrying guns and running from police. And never point a gun at an officer.
   
   I do not feel the race issue. I think the cause of this is the beginning of a race war started from hatred. And I see the blacks hate the whites more than the whites ever hated the blacks.
   
   I believe this is a plan of the muslims, they convert the most violent of blacks into their  "peaceful" religion then start a race war. The remaining blacks take the muslim side and everyone ends up praying on rugs. The blacks are being used in this because they are violent and hold on to hate.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Vince
      This incident proves that the race card is a red herring. The apparent goal is to produce social unrest for the sake of agitating the country. It is like when Mommy is on the phone, the kids go crazy.

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      gregasposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      This kind of stuff must make Charles Manson smile. He probably feels now like he was just way ahead of his time. Greg.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Greg
      Unfortunately, I think it makes a lot of  people happy. sad.

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      gregasposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      This is kind of Manson's Helter Skelter.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Greg
      Yes, but who is this Manson?

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      gregasposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Look up Charle's Manson. The Manson Family are the ones that killed Sharon Tate. It might interest you. You must be to young to know him.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Greg
      I live in CA, I know who Manson is, but I was asking who is acting like Manson today. You said it was like Manson so I assummed there must be a figure that is orchestrating it.
      Thanks

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      gregasposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      This should make Manson smile because it is looking like the Kelter Skelter he was after is what I meant.

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      Kenny MGposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      When we stop talking about race war, the problem will half. This is an excuse to extend ownership of large gun stockpile. There is only one human race - divided into ethnic groups. So how can there be a race war? We would be fighting with ourselves?

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       gregasposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Kenny, do you know who Charles Manson is?

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   gregasposted 7 years ago

   I don't care what the outcome is about the shooting, nothing gives anyone the right to take the actions of the rioters. They are just showing that they have no feelings for anyone but themselves. There are NO reasons for those actions. Just my opinion, Greg.

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   tamarawilhiteposted 7 years ago

   NO, it is not poverty. Otherwise you'd see rioting in sections of California with 30% unemployment because the drought ended most agricultural work, or in sections of the South with entrenched 30-40% unemployment.
   
   It can be seen as a race issue, with Black Live Matter blaming all whites and society at large for rare shootings of blacks by cops. They ignore the fact that more blacks are murdered by other blacks in only the city of Chicago than killed by cops in the whole nation in a year. And they obviously don't care about police shootings as a whole, because more whites and hispanics are killed by cops than blacks, but those lives don't matter to Black Lives Matter.
   
   Black Lives Matter is a racist movement that wants to privilege blacks over everyone else, while demanding police withdraw from the black majority neighborhoods so BLM can be in charge of those areas.
   
   Milwaukee Rioters: ‘They Beatin’ Up Every White Person!’
   http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/08/ … te-person/
   
   Milwaukee Rioters Target White People For Beatings
   http://www.dailywire.com/news/8354/vide … e-stephens
   
   Black Activists Call for Lynching and Hanging of White People and Cops
   http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/08/ … -and-cops/
   
   Black Lives Matter Leader Calls for Running Over, Shooting Police
   http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07 … ng-police/
   
   BLM activist advocates white genocide at Harvard
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC-Cqkq6zWc
   
   NY BLM Protesters chant, “What do we want? Dead Cops.”
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_qkvXL … e=youtu.be

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   wrenchBiscuitposted 7 years ago

   
   
   Of course it is an issue about race. The fact that you would post such a question is racist. There are approx. 240,000 black people living in Milwaukee County. I suspect that less than half of 1% participated in the riots. Yet, according to the racist commentators here on Hubpages, the black community throughout Wisconsin, as well as the entire nation, is monolithic, and stands united in it's goal to kill whitey. But nothing could be further from the truth.
   
   The riots in Milwaukee are a symptom of a racist capitalist system that has focused the majority of resources in Wisconsin on a "prison for profit" system rather than education and employment. Furthermore, the police state needs to be dismantled. And since more whites are being killed by cops than any other race, it would make more sense for the white racists to focus their attention on the real enemies of the people: The cops, Monsanto,the U.S. government, to name a few.
   
   
   I support Black Lives Matter 100%. I find it humorous that racists are seeking to paint an organization dedicated to destroying a racist system as also being racist. Such rhetoric belies any notion  of intellectual superiority. Suffice it to say: It  is simply impossible for a member of an oppressed minority to be racist. It is more likely that a man can experience a menstrual cycle, become pregnant, or sprout wings and fly back to Dixie; where the good black folk are picking cotton, and the good white folk are raping the slave women and children, teaching them how to read and write, and all about the golden rule.

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You are free to believe what you wish. But ask your self this, who is being hurt the most by this act of violence? What does BLM want? If you think asking the qustion is racist, I feel sorry for you. You have no understanding of what racism is.

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      wrenchBiscuitposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The "defense" budget for the U.S. Military in 2015 was 597 billion dollars! Obviously, a lot of powerful people believe that violence is the answer. It should be no surprise that the powerless feel the same.

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Jack,if you've read Ronnies answers you would know he says everything &everyone is racist bar nothing(except of course he who is the biggest bigot of all) so it's not even worth engaging him,unless maybe u can get some of what he's smokn.

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      LoliHeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      What BLM doesn't understand is that if you don't break the law, the police won't bother you.  They're in your neighborhoods because so many break the law.

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      BLM casts itself as a spontaneous uprising of inner city frustration,but is,in fact,the latest most dangerous face of a web of well-funded reds organizations that have been agitating against America f/decades.Google"reds exploiting blacks"

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      It is amazing to me how so many smart people can be so easily manipulated again and again. You would think, after 50 years, they would learn to spot the charlatans...

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      gregasposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      In my opinion BLM is just the opposite of white supremacist like KKK or the Nazi movement.

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      wrenchBiscuitposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Tiny Bro, You remind of the guy (or girl) who was never smart enough to get on the debate team. All u can do is sling mud, being unable to challenge a serious argument. Respond to the argument I raised, or get back on the short bus.

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Well Jack, how many is that? Tell me so I know to stop when we hit three. 2 more to go?

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       Mike Wynposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       The epigraph before your comment is absolutely perfect. The hubber comments about how democrats, affirmative action, and George Soros want to keep blacks in perpetual poverty would be laughable if they weren't so sinfully sick and sincerely sad.

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   Kenny MGposted 7 years ago

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   Florence Gilliamposted 7 years ago

   You may not want to know what I think but here is goes.  EVERY LIFE MATTER. not just one section.  We are all in the USA and we ALL matter. The riots are blacks why? have you ask that question .  And when they do act up they only destroy their own business and homes. Why? No matter who they are they have worked and saved and got something but then some punks get mad and destroy it.  They don't work if they want something they just take it.  Now what black on black. why are they rioting? No white did the shooting. I am getting sick and tried of hearing how bad they(blacks) have been treaded. If they are taking about slaves they were never slaves. If was wrong to have slaves and they were freed. Now get over it. It is in the pasted. The southern flag should be able to be shown you have your XXX but nothing is said about that.  You need to look at history and really see what the flag stood for not slaves it was the south and the north had their flag and they had more slaves than the south but nothing is said about that. Everyone involved in the riots in Milwaukee or anywhere else should be put in jail no under the jail. no bonds on get out of jail because they are black. They need to stay in prison for at less 10 yrs with no parole and understand what free means. If the blacks or I say should the ones 30 or younger would stop trying to start trouble then we could get along but they don't want that. They only want to keep the trouble going and blame someone else for they do.

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      wrenchBiscuitposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Tell Archie Bunker I said hello, and give Edith a big hug.

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Florence, don't mind him, there is one in every ..., well in his case one in every 300 million people. Just hold your nose until he's gone.

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      Kenny MGposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You really is ignorant of history, or just plain blind to what you Europeans - the so-called white race did to the Africans. To deny the facts of history, you have committed murder of insanity. Africans put themselves in chains, boarded ships?

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      LoliHeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Kenny--please.  I am so so sick of this "I'm oppressed crap" it's ridiculous.  There's a reason police patrol black inner city neighborhoods.  When was the last time you heard of a White drive by?

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      Kenny MGposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Another bigot spilling vile and hate! Your article should be given to the police. Only blacks are being killed and the police face no action. The justice system always favours the cops! This is not black on black, white on white it is a human issue!

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Sounds to me someone is bigoted against white people and the cops. Are you a BLM supporter Kenny, because if you are you are either a socialist/communist bent on taking down America or you are they're sucker. Google "Reds BLM" first hit

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    Mike Wynposted 7 years ago

    The not so short answer is that the Milwaukee riot is all of the above. Not a clairvoyant, but race is the definitive factor in the minds of African-Americans due to the oppressive environment many blacks are born into. Perception is reality, so when a family of color is torn apart due to mass incarceration (rightly or wrongly) it literally feels like an amputation of a loved one from the social fabric. The blame naturally falls on the most visible actor responsible for the separation: the cops.
    
    Economics is another suffocating attribute that smothers upward mobility. Beyond the idea of climbing the economic ladder, imagine the degradation experienced by blacks who just want to provide the basic necessities of life. This is a problem in need of someone to take the blame. The cops are a convenient choice.
    
    Crime is the proverbial onion whose layers once peeled should get everyone crying. Neighborhoods of color, unfortunately, bear the brunt of police attention due to the high percentage of crimes that occur there. The law of averages causes an increase in the number of interactions citizens have with law enforcement. As a cop friend of mine said, "Just walking down the street minding your own business could potentially be breaking the law." Finally, riots, no matter how justified a response to police corruption, are always and forever a crime. Period. End of story.

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       jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Great observations. In this particular case, I believe crime is the main factor. BLM should have no place near this case. There are other cases that justify peaceful protests, this was not one of them.

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       Mike Wynposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Agree! They come off as complete hypocrites because they never say a word about black on black murders. Chicago records thousands of murders year after year, but they don't matter? Dr. King's peaceful protest strategy is the only way to improve this

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       wrenchBiscuitposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       BLM exists in response to police brutality. Presently, it has no other function, nor should it. If peaceful protest is so effective, why is the U.S. spending over 500 billion for WMD's? Only the sheeple view self defense as a crime.

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       jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Peaceful protest has worked as example of MLK, and Nelson Mandela in South Africa and other places...

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       LoliHeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       BLM should be focused on teaching inner city people to act right.  Abide by the law, get married before having children, at least practice safe sex, get rid of gangbangers and drug dealers.  Then the cops will magically disappear.

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       Kenny MGposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Greg many people old as I am, heard of Charles Manson who was a criminal and who led what became known as the Manson Family, a commune in California in the 1960s. He manipulate others to kill for his pleasure. The conversation don't need him!

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       gregasposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Kenny, that is right. And he wanted to start a race war. We don't want that. But it sure is coming close to that if people keep flying off the handle. My reference to him was that what is happening now would make him smile.

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    MeenaPposted 7 years ago

    "Are" the riots in Milwaukee a race issue.....
    
    Sorry. I'm a Grammar Nazi. 
    
    I think it's an excuse to loot and burn.
    
    BLM is a hate group. They don't care about the facts.
    The perpetrator had a gun!
    
    They just want a reason to hate white people.

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       gregasposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Trust me, they don't need a reason to hate white people.

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       Kenny MGposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       When people say stuff without thinking it betray naive minds. Flipping the coin to talk about hating whites show ignorance. You are ignoring the facts of history. It has never been about whites being hated but about white oppressing and killing black

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