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Romney in Israel

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    JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago

    Thoughts?

    Romney recognizes Jerusalem as the capital.

    Israel has the right to defend itself.

    What lengths, if any, should we go to to prevent Iran from obtaining nukes.

    1. Hollie Thomas profile image59
      Hollie Thomasposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      The same lengths as you went to to prevent Israel from obtaining nukes.

      1. undermyhat profile image61
        undermyhatposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Is Israel run by religious radicals who believe in a global caliphate run by the returning Mahdi, because Iran is. 

        Is Israel run by a radical priesthood whose representative has said he wants to destroy Iran and China.  Iran is run by such a kabal - and Israel, The United States and the Catholic Church are all on the list.

        Is Israel running a terrorism operation that has killed hundreds of Americans, Brits, Lebanese, etc...?  Iran does - until the 9/11 attack Hezzbollah had the most American blood on its hands of any terrorist group.

        Has Israel assassinated the legitimate President of a democratic country?  Hezzbollah has( they are attached to Iranian itelligence)

        Has Israel planned the assassination of a foreign national on American soil and inserted assets who were set to kill any number of innocent who may have been in the way?  Iran has.

        Sounds like good reasons to be less concerned with a tiny nation surrounded by enemies attaining the "bomb" than with a "mad" regime obtaining a device that would destabilize the whole region.  Why do you think the Saudis and Turks are far more concerned about an Iranian "bomb" than the hundred or so believed to be in Israels arsenal?

        How about a thought exercise.  Iran has an atomic bomb and a missile to deliver it to Tel Aviv - is Tel Aviv in danger?

        Israel has had nukes since the 60s - why is there still a Riyadh, Tehran, Damascus, Cairo if Israel is an actual threat to its neighbors?

        1. Hollie Thomas profile image59
          Hollie Thomasposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Is Israel run by religious radicals-  Israel is governed by  expansionists  and hawks who believe that they are above international law, take as they please without repercussion.

          Is Israel run by a radical priesthood whose representative has said he wants to destroy Iran

          More distortion, you'll know doubt quote the "wipe Israel from the map" nonsense, and completely ignore the fact that many scholars and linguists  have repeatedly, and consistently, stated that those particular speeches were incorrectly translated and pointed out that some of the verbs etc do not even exist in Persian. Look it up.

          Is Israel running a terrorism operation that has killed hundreds of Americans, Brits, Lebanese

          Israel kills hundreds of Palestinians each and every year- and yes, historically they were terrorists, and yes, they killed a good few Brits.

          Has Israel assassinated the legitimate President of a democratic country?  Hezzbollah has( they are attached to Iranian itelligence)

          Israel has assassinated many noteable people, some which they deny whilst for others they use the euphemism of "targeted killing" still, it's murder all the same.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Is … ssinations

          Has Israel planned the assassination of a foreign national on American soil and inserted assets who were set to kill any number of innocent who may have been in the way?  Iran has.

          Yes, dozens of times. See the link above.

          Sounds like good reasons to be less concerned with a tiny nation surrounded by enemies attaining the "bomb" than with a "mad" regime obtaining a device that would destabilize the whole region.  Why do you think the Saudis and Turks are far more concerned about an Iranian "bomb" than the hundred or so believed to be in Israels arsenal?

          Because Saudi Arabia have long competed with Iran with regards to production of oil. Obviously. And because they also fear that Iran can strike their energy production plants. In terms of "mad" you'll need to provide some coherent evidence. Iran has not attacked another country for more than 200 years. Has Israel attacked another country since its inception?

          How about a thought exercise.  Iran has an atomic bomb and a missile to deliver it to Tel Aviv - is Tel Aviv in danger?

          How about another thought exercise, Iran have the right under the NPA to enrich uranium to be used for civil nuclear power. Iran has this right, as a signatory state, Israel does not. Yet Israel has nuclear weapons, Iran does not, they are only "suspected" of enriching nuclear power at higher levels.

          How about another thought exercise- What is it about US and Israeli foreign policy that has inflamed the Arab world so much? Could it be the utter contempt that they have shown to those nations and flagrant disregard of their sovereign rights?

          Israel along with the US, Uk and other nations, have bullied and postured for decades to gain control. The up risings in the Middle East have clearly worried Israel, who do have options; they could stop squatting on the land of others, respect international law, end  apartheid. But no, Israel just wants war with Iran.

  2. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 4 years ago

    First they got to take out Syria, supporters of Hezbollah, so they can re-invade Lebanon and steal the water.

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    rickyliceaposted 4 years ago

    Jerusalem capital: o.k.  with me
    Israel has the right to defend it self:  oui
    What should be done?: Israel has its own nukes it can defend itself, we should limit ourselves to sending them aid. Israel is not strategically important according to ZBig really only Western Europe and East Asia are important.

  4. Cheeky Girl profile image86
    Cheeky Girlposted 4 years ago

    He wants the jewish Vote. Why else would he go there? He is clearly not there for being jewish. He made a few gaffs in the UK shooting his trap off about how well organised it was to handle the Olympics. The media didn't take to Mr Romney much. He's a put-down artist, and he's filling his cash sack and on a big hunt to get attention for his presidential campaign, which needs your votes and lots and lots of everyone's dollars! Hah!

  5. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    He's pandering.

  6. Moderndayslave profile image60
    Moderndayslaveposted 4 years ago

    The AIPAC puppet

  7. brimancandy profile image82
    brimancandyposted 4 years ago

    Romney is a showboat republican. Everything that he has done so far is to draw attention to himself, while he throws his negative attacks Obama. He has not said one thing that he is going to do when or if he become president other than shoot down all of Obama's programs and go back to the same BS that Bush did. More pandering to the rich, and beating the war drums to convince people that we need to stop Iran, which is stealth tactics to hide the fact that he has nothing to offer to AMERICA!

    I like one thing that has been a recurring comment by David Lettermen. So, when he flew to Israel was the dog on top of the plane? And, how many people were there to get his hair just right, and polish his shoes. The actual purpose of his trip is to find out if he has any money hiding over there, he has it in so many different countries you can't expect him to keep track of it all.

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      JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I love hearing this constantly from the left, when people can't seem to say what Romney's policies are.

      Did Bush switch us to a territorial tax system? Did Bush lower the corporate tax rate? Did Bush push to simplify the tax system and eliminate loopholes? Did Bush cut spending? Did Bush call for a managed restructuring bankruptcy of the auto industry?

      Just because Romney is an R, doesn't mean he's the same as every other R. In fact, Romney is much more centrist than most Rs.

      1. brimancandy profile image82
        brimancandyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        My point was. Obama wants to end the Bush era tax cuts, and Romney wants to not only continue the cuts, but give the rich even more. No bush did not give the auto industry a bailout, because he was too busy giving 800 billion dollars to his banking buddies, and 5 billion dollars a year to the oil industry all of which the Bush family and Cheney made a lot of money on. While some of the companies that received the huge Bush bailouts gave huge paychecks to their CEO's and AIG threw themselves a huge party with the tax payer dollars that BUSH gave away.

        When Obama became president, he socked the banks and AIG with huge penalties, and most of the money  Bush wasted has been paid back, and a lot of CEO's who pocketed the bailout money were forced out of their companies to hide what the Bush money really did. Which was make a few of The Bush family friends very rich. Along with another company that a lot of people don't know about. That has a lot of people in Washington in it's back pocket.

        Also, I live in Michigan. If something had not been done about the auto industry, the CEO's of the companies involved were willing to close up shop and put millions of auto workers out of a job. They also tried to restructure themselves with plans to drop having to pay all pensions to there current and former employees, to which Obama and Debbie Stabinaw said. .Oh hell no!

        You can file for bankruptsy, but not at the cost of your employees. Obama was also involved in the cash for clunkers program, which made the auto industry a ton of money. Now some are sitting on record profits. But, I am not impressed with the banking industry or the auto industry. The banking industry was supposed to ease loan restrictions so that businesses and individuals could borrow more money, but all they did was sit on the cash.

        Now the auto industry is bitching about unfair trade practices in China, yet GM plans to build factories in China to sell what it calls American made cars, to sell an estimated 30 million cars to the Chinese in one year. No plans to build those cars in the United States. So, when you are talking about Corporate America and the Government, you really can't tell who is the bigger loser. If I were president I would tell them to go screw themselves.

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          JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          First, it's not giving more to the rich. It's taking away less. The rich pay more taxes, in dollars and percentages, than the poor. People who pay 5% shouldn't complain about people who pay 25%.

          Second, Romney wants to cut corporate rates, which nobody has done in a long time. It's long overdue, and that is not a Bush policy.

          Third, Bush did bailout the auto industry. Most of the money sent to them originated with Bush, it just wasn't fully distributed until Obama was in office.

          Michigan went through exactly what Romney suggested it go through. Bankruptcy. The only difference is the unions didn't take the pay cuts they should have, and many billions of dollars lost by postponing the bankruptcy.

          Again, Bush =/= Romney. Bush gave Michigan bailouts. Romney advised managed bankruptcy.

          Government and Corporations both need to be responsible. If you actually look at Romney's record, you'll notice that is one of his defining beliefs about good business.

          1. brimancandy profile image82
            brimancandyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Obviously you did not see the report on the news where a Warren Buffet, who is a multi-billionaire is disgusted with the government, and the Bush era tax cuts. He stated that he pays less in taxes each year than his secretary. And, the tax cuts proposed for the rich would have him paying even less and his secretary paying more. A company like GE pays -60% in taxes every year. Which according to the fed, tax payers are paying GE  to do 60% of it's business under corporate tax handouts, even though their profits are in the billions. Just like the 5 billion going to the oil industry, when they are sitting on trillions. Obama wants to end those handouts, and the republicans are fighting it. What sense does that make?

            Also GM did not file for Bankruptcy as it originally wanted. They had to work with the state, and there were constant back and forth proposals between Jennifer Granholm, (Our state Governor before the asshole we have now) LIke I said, they wanted to leave their employees in the dust, and Obama, Granholm, and Stabinaw would not allow it. I think Carl Levin was also involved in the GM bailout. If they had done nothing you can bet GM would have packed up and moved out of the country, and with all this talk about building factories to build cars in China, it won't be long before all the auto plants are gone, and it's all made over there and shipped here like everything else.

      2. Hollie Thomas profile image59
        Hollie Thomasposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Not centrist, just a very unsuccessful attempt at crowd pleasing. But he can't please any crowd (other than the far right in Israel, the completely uneducated and the "anything but Obama" stupid crew, and they are not a majority) Why?, because he's disengenuousness. He runs from transparency, will not (consistently at any rate) make clear his policies, or talk for too long (which is probably wise given that great big foot of his) Role on the debates, he's gonna get pummeled.

        1. Mighty Mom profile image90
          Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Well you know the debate bar has already been lowered through the floor.
          Sarah Palin won the debate with Joe Biden.
          No. Really.
          People actually thought that.

          1. Hollie Thomas profile image59
            Hollie Thomasposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Yes, it always really amuses me the way the media decide who won the debate. Wow, and now they're even preempting the results. Impressive.

      3. Mighty Mom profile image90
        Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Not today he's not.
        This Israel trip is as much about appeasing the far-right Zionists as it is about pulling American Jews away from Obama.

  8. brimancandy profile image82
    brimancandyposted 4 years ago

    From what I have read recently on various news reports, Mittens visit to Israel went over like a fart in church. Everyone knew it happened but nobody cared.

 
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