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How does it FEEL to hear that "legitimate rate cannot impregnate?"

  1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image90
    Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago

    Shout out to women. Does this feel like a stab in the gut from a rapist.
    Does it make you cross your arms ovrer your stomach to keep from feeling hallow?
    Does it remind you that Taliban males killl the raped woman because it was her fault.
    Do you feel less secure about your future?
    Candidate Paul Ryan has backed up this line of Senator Akin, arguing for it back as far as 1996.

    1. Shadesbreath profile image86
      Shadesbreathposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I get rabid, unthinking, reactive emotional political spasms on the Internet, but, you could at least take like .000017 seconds  to check your spelling and stuff before hitting "enter" if you're going to say stuff that is totally absurd and unsupportable in any conversation that goes beyond a third sentence. I mean, yes, it's mostly just going to be laughed at by anyone who thinks much, but it's made worse by the, at best, glaring haste that went into posting it, and, more likely, and as most will probably see it, the vacant, unthinking illiteracy that easily explains how poorly founded are the original "ideas".

      On the other hand, I too drink heavily, and have been known to put up inane stupidity, so, I probably am more with you than I am against you on this one.

      1. PrettyPanther profile image84
        PrettyPantherposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        What is wrong with you?  I know it's been your "thing" on the forums lately to chastise the rest of us about wasting our time arguing over minutiae while the country burns down, but you seem to be missing one very important point. 

        When God-worshipping, Ayn-Rand-worshipping ideologues like Paul Ryan and Todd Akin are left to their own devices, they insert their nasty, uneducated views in textbooks, legislation, Boy Scout meetings, children's books, 4-H curriculum, and anywhere else they can stick their warped morality.  It has already happened and will happen more if we don't expose the stupidity for what it is.  Look how ridiculous the GOP has become.   Their party platform consists of positions that 80% of the country oppose, yet they are insinuating their anti-intellectual, religion-induced psychosis into every aspect of women and children’s lives that they can get their ugly white paws on.

        If it takes an issue like the “legitimate rape” comment to get young women to wake up to the stupidity of a party that would like to take us back 50 years, then so be it.

        Frankly, I find responses like yours incredibly disturbing, as if you have a lock on what should and should not be discussed on an internet forum.  Who made you guardian of what constitutes a legitimate discussion on the internet?   Get over yourself.

    2. gmwilliams profile image82
      gmwilliamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Quite incensed.   Todd Akin is clearly delusional at best and totally insensitive at worst.    There is no such thing as legitimate rape.   Mr. Akin is clearly a neanderthal in his thought process.    Rape does impregnate if precautions are not taken.    Mr. Akin and other intellectually challenged Republicans want to use this ruse of "legitimate rape" as a subterfuge to attempt to overturn abortion and to eventually take away women's reproductive freedoms in order to make women slaves to their anatomy!   Well, I AM NOT GOING TO STAND FOR IT!

    3. Ralph Deeds profile image71
      Ralph Deedsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      "Does it remind you that Taliban males killl the raped woman because it was her fault."

      Great analogy. The American Taliban.

      1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image90
        Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Six years ago a little known foreign policy expert Steve Brown started calling the extreme reactionaries in the Republican Party the American Taliban. He said that it's not a religious ideology by a belief that you have the right to kill some one if they don't obey you.

        I don't think much about that, really, but just last week an everyday friend was shown a fanatic's mutiion dump right in the middle of LA. I said, why'd he show you. He said the guy was drunk and bragging.

        Perhaps were all nuts.

    4. KFlippin profile image59
      KFlippinposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Shout back. . . .That is all horse doo doo being used for political schtick, I'm sick of it, the guy, is a creep, it appalls me,  but so do your own words, I cover my belly in response to you both.  In no way does this man reflect the thinking of the Republican Party of the UsA.  If you wish to pin Akin's poor comments to Paul Ryan . . . and ludicrously as far back as 1996, then put it on your thread of discussion, otherwise, it is empty fingerpointing.

  2. jmicchael1a profile image61
    jmicchael1aposted 4 years ago

    Hi, Dr. Kidd. "Legitimate" is the latest code word created by the wrong-minded Right here in the USA. "Forcible" and other adjectives have been put in front of the word rape to demean a victim's claim of assault and her desire for an abortion of the fetus conceived during this violent sexual attack.

    Rape has never been an easy crime to prosecute. Now, the Right hopes to discredit a victim's claims and thwart her desire for relief by creating degrees of heinous. Shame upon them

    Todd Akin does not seem to be a superior thinker. Therefore, I won't give him credit for originality. This was a dullard who slapped leather, and shot one from the hip. However, the comment he made was a restatement of his rape/abortion stance. A position he has advanced in Congressional legislation he's written and submitted for consideration. Legislation Paul Ryan, the GOP vice presidential nominee, has endorsed.

    I, too, have addressed the absurdity of this mind set. I welcome your post.

    1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image90
      Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Obviously, being a shrink, I've seen the damage. And right, it's hard to prosecute. I treated offenders for a while. People generally deny they did it or feel great shame. One man moved beyond the denial of raping his daughter and killed himself, OD-ing on heroin, a drug he was not addicted to.

    2. Ralph Deeds profile image71
      Ralph Deedsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      "Todd Akin does not seem to be a superior thinker."

      The understatement of the year. The word cretin comes to mind.

  3. prettydarkhorse profile image64
    prettydarkhorseposted 4 years ago

    I am sad that there are people who still think that way!!

  4. kerryg profile image87
    kerrygposted 4 years ago

    I have fortunately never been raped, so my reaction was probably not as visceral as those who have (let alone those who were raped and got pregnant as a result). My reaction was more along the lines of "What the everloving fuck!?!"

    "You can't get pregnant if you don't enjoy it" is one of those myths that get passed around locker rooms. I'm aware that it exists. But nobody with the brains of a weevil believes it after the age of 14, and yet this moron somehow managed to get elected to public office!?! It's depressing.

    That said, it is not as depressing as the increasingly common Republican position that there should be NO rape exemption in abortion bans, which is shared by no less than Paul Ryan, our presumptive vice presidential nominee. Before Romney picked Ryan, I might have disagreed with any woman's choice to vote for Romney, but I would have accepted it. After choosing Ryan, I think a vote for Romney is completely inexcusable for any woman and, for that matter, any man with a daughter, granddaughter, niece or other female relative or friend that he loves. If you really hate Obama that much, find somebody independent who's not trying to drag our country back to the Stone Age. tongue

    1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image90
      Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I was kind of stunned to see Paul Ryan on a video saying, "Abortion is abortion. There's no cause for an exemption...Romney may have his exemptions from the abortion ban but I do not."

  5. HowardBThiname profile image90
    HowardBThinameposted 4 years ago

    I had to ask my dear daughter to answer that one.

    Her first response was, "Huh?" So, I had to locate a story and read her the text of the original comment.

    Then, looking annoyed at the interruption, she said, "Just one more stupid man, saying stupid things."

    Do you feel insulted by that, I asked.

    She didn't feel insulted but she told me that it was proof that men are not qualified to comment on "girl things."

    That meant the conversation was over.

    1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image90
      Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You are a lucky person to have such a great relationship with your daughter. Thanks for the feedback from her.

      1. HowardBThiname profile image90
        HowardBThinameposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah, she's a great kid. Independent, outgoing, but second-guesses herself too much. She's in that tough age where adults still treat her like a kid but expect her to act like an adult. She joined the debate and forensics team this year and she's really psyched about it. And I gotta admit, she's pretty good. And, yes, I'm lucky. Very lucky with all three of my kids.

  6. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 4 years ago

    Romney doesn't agree with Ryan's stand on abortion. Prez candidates and their VPs don't always agree, like with Obama and Biden on clean coal in the 2008 election.

    1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image90
      Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I hope not. I think it's a woman's issue, anyway.

  7. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    Romney just accepted his party's nomination.
    His party put forth a platform that is closer (read: identical) to Ryan's than Romney's.
    Can't distance himself from this.

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
      Uninvited Writerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      That's what I was thinking. They say their platforms are different and that Romney's is not the same as the party platform; if so, how can he be their candidate if that is so?

      1. Mighty Mom profile image90
        Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        If they thought it would help them to say the opposite, they would.

        1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image90
          Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          There ya go again! I had not got that far yet in my thinking. I notice the Republicans have forgotten RomneyCare.

  8. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 4 years ago

    well...based on the OP...if it is true, and if this candidate(s) states/believes such nonsense....they are the type of men i have no time for me because they are idiots and abuse women and think women are inferior....they wouldn't know how to communicate with a woman like me.....and there are many, many women like me...we'd never allow these types to be in power.....most women do not want to take steps backwards....basically this type of man, feels inferior to strong women and women in general and thus preys on the weak


    my other thought is 'wtf is legitimate about rape anyway....a**holes!'....and then 'i'd love to sit down and have a chat with one of them!'

    OMG!..to my American friends....

    1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image90
      Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I talk to women after my presentations on romantic relationshps. The first question is, "Where's all the (elgible) men?" The next question is: "Why are men so intimidated by successful women?"

      That last question gets to me. The men I know celebrate women's successes. But I guess there's not that many off us.

      1. habee profile image91
        habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        My husband has always admired and supported any successes I've enjoyed, but there are many men in the South who are intimidated by smart, successful women.

 
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