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How do YOU define Family Values?

  1. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    If you are a pro-life Tea Party Republican like Scott DeJarlais,
    your family values include having not one, but 4 documents extramarital affairs.
    At least one of them with a patient (isn't there doctor/patient relations taboo?)
    AND....pressuring her to get an ABORTION.

    The hypocrisy astounds. I should be inured to it by now, but it still astounds me.
    And not only that, the jerk's apparently re-winning his seat back in 2012! sad

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/1 … ostpopular

    1. Mandrake_1975 profile image94
      Mandrake_1975posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You are using an argument which is logical fallacy, much like a tomato is red; therefore all red things are tomatoes.  This is obviously incorrect, just as all of your assumptions (according to this post) concerning pro-lifers, Tea Party acitvitists, and conservatives is.  Perhaps you should start thinking for yourself rather than allow others to implant ideas in your head about "general" stances?

      I, personally, think for myself, and I identify myself as pro-life, an original Tea-partier, and a conservative Libertarian, but I do not do extramarital affairs, nor do I believe in pressuring a woman to do anything (though I do believe a man has a NATURAL RIGHT to strongly voice his opinion on the existence/nonexistence of his offspring of which he has ZERO control over if a woman is given complete free-reign over that decision, eventhough it is beyond his biological and therefore natural means if the law stands as it does).

      What would you consider man's biological rights to offspring, might I ask?  Does the woman always have the upperhand?  What is your reasoning?  What is your philosophy on rights and how does your opinion fit in?  Do you think men are less than women, and if so why, but if not how do you defend the liberal position of giving all power on life and death to the woman (if you would truly label yourself that very generalized title)?

  2. American View profile image60
    American Viewposted 4 years ago

    It appears family values are different for different families. Today's values are not the same as they were years ago. I laugh sometimes when some people make fun or say who wants to go back to that. Fact is we were a better society morally, respectfully and honestly.

    It appears this story is 112 years old, this guy has been elected before after the story first broke back then. If he is leading the Democrat challenger, my question would be is this the best the challenger can do? The challenger cannot unseat him on the issues?

    MM, it saddens me when we read these kinds of stories, but when they are involving politicians, I have tuned them out. Both sides try to play innocent when both sides are as bad as the other.

    1. Mighty Mom profile image91
      Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You're right, AV. It's all too common. I do wonder if we tend to nostalgize the "good old, simple old days." Were they really better or do we just remember them as such?
      My take on it is of course I want my elected officials to be honest and decent, not corrupt or skanky. But I know that power is an aphrodesiac.
      If lawmakers want to cat around, that's on their conscience. It's between them and their spouse and their God. Not a big whoop for me.
      Except when... the lawmaker makes a big public display of being moral and representing "family values" and denigrating other people's values.Or worse, voting to restrict other people's rights.
      When they get caught with their pants down, it becomes not just a sexual dalliance issue, but a hypocrisy.
      Worst are the closet gays who rabidly vote against gay rights, then get outed playing footsie in the men's room.
      Tsk tsk.
      People who live in glass Houses (or Senates, even) should not throw stones!

  3. Aley Martin profile image83
    Aley Martinposted 4 years ago

    I teach values and ethics at the college level. The biggest issue here is that conservatives and liberals have a differing brain physiology which means they will never agree on politics and religion. The most important thing is not to try to cram ones beliefs on another and many people choose to ignore that stance. This politician should not be reelected due to his ethics, and there are many from both sides that should go with him. Until we all realize that there will never be agreement, we will continue to work to convince the other of the inadequacies of their position. Read Prof Jonathan Haidts book seen here: http://www.amazon.com/The-Righteous-Min … 307377903.

    He does not take a side, and explains both. Very well written and succinct, it helps us come to terms with how we see beliefs and values in our lives from our hardwired minds.

  4. psycheskinner profile image82
    psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago

    I don't think pressuring your mistress to abort a fetus so you can lie to your wife about the affair is any kind of values in any era.

  5. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 4 years ago

    Well - these are the traditional family values I know about. big_smile


  6. gmwilliams profile image85
    gmwilliamsposted 4 years ago

    Family values to me means the utmost in love, respect, encouragement, and openness to growth and the values that the said member/members have towards each other.   Family furthermore means a commonality of relationships whether blood or nonblood related.   In essence, families are people who provide LOVE, RESPECT, and ACCEPTANCE of one another regardless of exterior constructs, no more, no less!

  7. Wayne Brown profile image87
    Wayne Brownposted 4 years ago

    Family values are at this point in our society a dream and not a fact.  We have kids behaving badly in schoold and the parents' reaction is to sue the school.  We have school officials intervening in child behavior and the parents file a law suit.  At what point do the parents actually have to demonstrate some responsibility on their part?  Frankly, I am tired of the federal government raising our kids but we arer rapidly becoming a society in which the federal government is the only entity which has any legal control over the kids. We cannot be a society of educated people who look to the government to tell us how we raise our kids and what restrictions apply.  That is utter stupidity.  Family values are dying in this country because we have become a land of people more interested in finding out what we can take rather than what we can give.  We were once a people who prided ourselves on work ethic and our love for our neighbor.....the work ethic is gone...sold out to government support programs designed to get votes.  The love of neighbor is gone because we have all become too selfish to care about anything but ourselves.  That is a big reason that Obama resonates so loudly with so many...love of self...just like him.  We are a nation of people being trained to hate each other purposely because a house divided cannot stand.  If we have any brains as a people, if we have anything that resembles "family values" then we need to rid ourselves of the current stench that occupies our White House.  We need to get back to being Americans and not some population of people that some guy who is a "suspect" citizen at best wants us to be. We are better than that. ~WB

    1. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 4 years ago in reply to this


      After that tide of nonsense let's try some facts shall we (ignoring that as "suspect" birther you have +10 immunity to facts)

      For starters hilariously schools are NOT run by the federal government that would be the state. (This was a good start for what follows.)

      Employed Americans work harder than ever before in American history and are hour by hour the most productive workers on earth. Unemployment is high but that isn't because of a lack of work ethic but because of a lack of JOBS. (By this point in your comment I was laughing so hard I spilled my drink.)

      Then you claimed people did not care about their neighbor anymore (I assume the word neighbor is metaphorical) which is weird because Americans are more charitable than ever before (or were until the crisis but it's picking up again).

      Then you made the frankly hilarious statement that Obama was the perfect candidate for the selfish... Which is an interesting conclusion given these two things #1 Liberals are on average 6 to 7% wealthier than conservatives #2 Liberals want to raise taxes on the wealthy to help the poor...
      That is just mindbogglingly selfish right? tongue

    2. Mark Knowles profile image61
      Mark Knowlesposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Can you give us a time frame for this Utopia please?