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The OFFICIAL Final Presidential Debate Thread

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    JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago

    Habee got the jump on the debate last time. This time, it's my turn.

    I predict that Obama is going to end up with 4 minutes more speaking time. Liberals will complain that Romney was rude, interrupted Obama, and bullied the moderator. Conservatives will complain that the moderator is biased, and that Obama avoided speaking about his record.

    Someone will accidentally make an obscene gesture, possibly something like Romney taking off his shoe and stuffing his sock in Obama's mouth so he can catch up on speaking time.

    Romney will say "I'm going to crack down on China", Obama will say "Osama bin Laden is dead".

    CNN will say the debate was a tie, FOX will say Romney won by 5%, and MSNBC will say Obama won by 24%.

    Nothing will change, we will all argue about word choice for a couple of days.

    1. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Jax lol We may not agree on politics, but I love you sense of humor! A very smart man recently told me that he would never want me to change (he is conservative) my opinions, because a strong left and a strong right make eachother and the country better smile I think he is correct.

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    JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago

    So, now you don't need to watch the debate, you're all caught up.

  3. habee profile image90
    habeeposted 4 years ago

    I think you prolly nailed it, buddy!

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      JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      [INSERT CANNED RESPONSE]

      If you are voting for Obama... I"M NOT YOUR BUDDY.

      If you are voting for Romney... THANK YOU! WE RULE!

      If you are voting for Johnson... Obama thanks you for your vote...

      1. Josak profile image60
        Josakposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Don't forget Stein seems she will be getting some votes this year too. But hey at least we can be buddies since I am not voting Obama tongue

      2. innersmiff profile image78
        innersmiffposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        If you are voting for either Romney or Obama . . . the police-state thanks you for your vote!

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          JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I'll only vote for someone who doesn't have a chance of winning if:

          A: I live in a non-swing state.
          B: I agree more with the person who can't win than either of the people who can.

          In this case, neither of those apply.

          1. innersmiff profile image78
            innersmiffposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            So you agree with the police state, why didn't you just say that?

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              JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Because that's not what I meant, so that's not what I said.

              At this point in time, the economy trumps the existing civil liberty concerns we are facing, and Romney is much better suited to fix the economy.

              1. movingout profile image60
                movingoutposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                So more manufacturing jobs will go overseas! Sounds like you have a plan!lol Sorry, Romney will lead us, not to the next recession, but in my opinion the next Great Depression! All my family and friends are going with the POTUS. Romney/Ryan approach to womans rights, medicare vouchers, healthcare, reluctance to tax the wealthy, no job creation plan in detail, and his 47% comments sold us!

                1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94
                  TIMETRAVELER2posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  I absolutely agree and our family has already voted for POTUS

              2. innersmiff profile image78
                innersmiffposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Both the economy and the civil liberties issues have a sole cause: big government. Big government is exactly what Romney is promoting.

                1. movingout profile image60
                  movingoutposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  He's also promoting BIG business at the expense of the worker.

                  1. innersmiff profile image78
                    innersmiffposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    So is Obama - he only postures to be for the working class. In reality he is as much a puppet of Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan as Romney is.

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                  JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  I addressed this in the thread 'Why I don't support Johnson'.

                  It's not about what got us here, it's about making our situation better tomorrow.

                  1. movingout profile image60
                    movingoutposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Jaxson, I agree. Problem is, career politicians. Also the age of some of our representatives. I believe many are seeing fixes to todays problems with yester a years approaches. What worked then, problably won't work today, given the technology of today.

      3. habee profile image90
        habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I'm voting for Romney, along with the rest of my extended family - except for two wayward members. lol

        1. movingout profile image60
          movingoutposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Sounds like the two wayward members are concerned about women's right, vouchers, healthcare and the 47% comments. Sounds like they've been following the campaign closely.

      4. tammybarnette profile image60
        tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Well that stinks...

  4. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    Aside from having your numbers reversed, I agree with Habee that you nailed it, BUDDY.
    lol
    Fox will declare Romney the winner by 24% and MSNBC will declare Obama the winner by 5%.
    Romney will repeat his Day One plan to declare China a currency manipulator.
    But Limbaugh is already calling Obama a "moderator manipulator."
    Obama's already given his spoiler alert on Bin Laden at last night's Al Smith dinner.

    It would be great if they can get past Libya and China in this debate. I mean, there are a few other countries in the world.

  5. movingout profile image60
    movingoutposted 4 years ago

    The moderator will introduce the candidates, Welcoming President Barrack Obama and Governor Willard Romney. Romney will immediately attack the moderator saying, my name isn't Willard! My name is Mitt! The moderator will ask proof of this from Willard, asking him to provide his birth certificate. When unable to dispute the moderator, Willard will stomp back to his chair, visibly shaken!

  6. innersmiff profile image78
    innersmiffposted 4 years ago

    http://s3.hubimg.com/u/7288922_f248.jpg

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    Sooner28posted 4 years ago

    I'll have to remember this thread is here after Obama whoops Romney tomorrow tongue.

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      JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, good luck with that.

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        Sooner28posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Looks like it is already pretty lively anyway. 

        Like you said, I'm not sure anything new will come to light.  I'm hoping you and I are both wrong.

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    Sooner28posted 4 years ago

    I'm responding so this thread will jump up to the beginning to remind people this thread exists.

    Also, I'm interested in hearing what the candidates leave out, such as indefinite detention and torture.

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    JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago
    1. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Wow, a lot of agreeiment on foriegn policy anyway...much nicer to eachother this time...both sweated a lot,LOL smile

  10. movingout profile image60
    movingoutposted 4 years ago

    A debate of agreeing with the POTUS. Call it anyway you want, but Romney backed down and agreed, or simply doesn't have a working knowledge of foreign policy to offer any different plan.

    1. KFlippin profile image60
      KFlippinposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Movingout . . . or moving on?  Romney did very well, Obama looked to the moderater with the intensely "begging eyes" for help so often it was sad, he wanted that liberal dude to help him, but Schaefer was not a Crowley, and he did not fold -- kudos to him!

      1. tammybarnette profile image60
        tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        lol roll

  11. movingout profile image60
    movingoutposted 4 years ago

    Romeny reminded me of Gumby. He twisted and turned yet again. Difference this time is he agreed with the majority of the POTUS foreign policies. Romney looked scared and close lipped, afraid he would say the wrong thing. He showed his lack of knowledge of foreign affairs. Sorry, but I can see we will agree to disagree!

  12. readytoescape profile image61
    readytoescapeposted 4 years ago

    Romney easily out maneuvered the President and was much more diplomatic. In agreeing with some of the president’s polices, or more rightly goals (which are not much more than common sense and policies that have been in place for decades,) however he rightly criticized the methods of implementation or lack thereof.   
          Romney’s biggest Hammer, “We do not dictate to other nations we liberate them.” Obama was left with his mouth hanging open

  13. movingout profile image60
    movingoutposted 4 years ago

    lmao...you had it right the first time. He agreed with some (actually most) of the POTUS policies. Romney scares the daylights out of me!

    1. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      movingout, Did you notice that they sort of switched roles from the first debate...Obama was the clear winner, but I will say he should know more, he has been POTUS, and Romney did pretty good, because we all know he doesn't know much about foriegn policy...

      1. tammybarnette profile image60
        tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        48% Obama...40% Romney big_smile

    2. KFlippin profile image60
      KFlippinposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Scared you?  wow!!  The POTUS scares me, he looked intensely needy for the moderator to help him out of his smug scared face pasted on, must have been hard to hold that facial pose, but of course he has been practicing!!

      1. movingout profile image60
        movingoutposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        @Kflippin....lol, If the POTUS needed the moderator, Romney needed a foreign affairs expert to answer the questions for him. lol He looked completely out of his element. One where Romney is in total control and people bow to him as a business guru!

  14. movingout profile image60
    movingoutposted 4 years ago

    I did notice! Romney sounded like a parrot who rehearsed speaking points told to him during "debate training".  He went from far right to maybe if I agree with the POTUS more people will vote for me.

    1. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile

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    Sooner28posted 4 years ago

    Romney seemed to agree with Obama a lot.  It's weird considering Romney also called him weak.

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      JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Weak on some things, not weak on others.

      Is it really a bad thing to say your opponent has done some things right?

      1. Cody Hodge5 profile image83
        Cody Hodge5posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        In all seriousness, that is more or less what cost Kerry the election in 04....at least that was the perception.

      2. Josak profile image60
        Josakposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Fox polling has Obama way ahead in winning the third debate.
        http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/22/vo … al-debate/

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          JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Come on Josak, those internet polls mean nothing. Large partisan communities will target those polls. You can watch them swing drastically as a few hundred, or even a couple thousand people all come on to vote one side in a short time-frame. It's funny to watch, you can find the forums that do this, and they feel like they are somehow making a difference, when internet polls have a margin of error of ~101%.

          1. Josak profile image60
            Josakposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            If you can find any proof a demographic is targeting then it's a valid rejection, otherwise and judging from the comments it seems to be genuine. Fox has a certain crowd hang around it anyway and it's not liberal.

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              JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Lol, ok. Go ahead and use an automatic poll that is not controlled for any factors, can be spoofed, spammed, and hacked, and gives absolutely no demographic information.

              By the way...

              http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021610297
              http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/2 … te-w-Links

              Just two examples. Seriously, internet polls are worthless. Someone with a network of bots(you would be surprised) could force them all to spam a poll. One person could easily cast hundreds of thousands of votes.

              And before you say 'You're just being a sore loser', I haven't used ANY internet polls, from any of the debates. They are stupid.

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        Sooner28posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Nope.  But if it undermines your fundamental claims to being "different" it is an issue.

  16. Charles James profile image87
    Charles Jamesposted 4 years ago

    Jaxson -We can be buddies even if we support different candidates. You can recognise that a person has integrity even if they are currently or even permanently supporting the wrong views or the wrong candidate.
    It is the people who do not have integrity or intellectual clarity that are the real problem.

    Congratulations on your hub by the way!

 
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