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Irrational fear of guns? No way.

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    JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago

    Feinstein doesn't know what the things she is trying to ban actually are. When you ask her, she can't answer. For example, she thinks a barrel shroud is a 'shoulder thing that goes up'. Clearly, her desire to ban those 'shoulder things that go up' is a rational, logical decision, right?

    A young girl was suspended and ordered for psychological evaluation for saying she was going to shoot another girl with her Hello Kitty bubble-gun. She was going to assault that poor girl with a high-capacity, automatic, assault-bubble gun. Clearly suspending her and ordering evaluation is a rational, logical decision, right?

    Most people don't know what 'assault weapon' means. Some think it's black rifles. Some think it's automatics. Some think automatics need to be banned. Some think automatics are already banned. Clearly, these arguments are based on reason and logic, right?

    Many people will look at two guns, one black rifle, and the same rifle with a wood stock and camo pattern, and only call one of them an assault rifle. Clearly that is a rational, logical distinction... right?

    The Chicago Tribune printed a graphic about assault rifles, pointing out the sling mount as a bayonet/grenade launcher mount. Reason, logic, right?

    Many want to reinstate the AWB, which bans guns not based on their firing capability, but whether or not they have certain cosmetic features. Rational, logical, right?

    Sadly, logic and reason aren't taught in our schools. Logic and reason aren't welcome in our political debates. Emotion is the driving factor for the majority of Americans.

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      HuntersWhittposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I'm sorry, but I just simply can't support you on this one, and you are way off base, and should be ashamed!

      How dare you minimize the threats and dangers of bubble guns! Bubble guns are one of the leading cause of slippery floors and red eyes among 3 - 9 year-olds. And that's to say nothing of the accidental bubblings that take place every year.

      Oh sure, the "Big Bubble Fat Cats" will tell you that bubble guns are a part of our National traditions, and they're for unrestricted access to all bubble guns, but I ask you, does any private citizen really need to be able to blow 40 - 50 bubbles per minute!?!?

      It's time to wake up America and realize that as long as anyone can walk into a department store and load up on Assault Style Bubble Guns, none of us are safe.

      http://agonist.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/hello-kitty-bubble-gun.jpg
      The Real Enemy!

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        wildernessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        It goes far beyond that, as well.  Anyone wanting a bubble gun also wants a BB gun - a terrible tool that will shoot your eye out!

        Once they have the BB gun they'll want a .22, and not just any .22 but one that shoots long rifle bullets.  Long rifles!  What could ever be worse?

        They won't stop there, of course - that oh so innocent bubble gun is going to have otherwise wise and fine folks buying a rifle, and one that can shoot more than 3 bullets without reloading.

        From there that little girl will next want a .50 caliber belt fed machine gun and then a tank.  So, you see, bubble guns lead in a direct procession to everyone wanting an M1 Abrams. 

        The school erred only in not immediately executing her on the spot.

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          tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Reminds me of  marijuana being the gate way drug in our war on drugs campaign lol

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      JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/paper-gun-620x362.jpeg

      A 5th grader was scolded and searched in front of the class for having this in her pocket.

      Nope, we're not irrational about guns. We don't use emotion to make our decisions. Nope.

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        HuntersWhittposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Am I missing something, isn't that just a piece of paper?

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          whoisitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, in the shape of a semi-automatic pistol! Can't you see the danger?

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          JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          No, you're not missing anything. The student got in trouble for having it. Apparently her Grandpa made that 'gun' for her to play with. She left it in her pocket, and went to throw it away when she was at school, when they saw it.

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            whoisitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            That's the problem, she was just going to leave that dangerous weapon laying around for just anybody to pick up.

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              JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              I really want to laugh... but this issue is SO RETARDED, while simultaneously SO IMPORTANT, I just can't.

              Eric Holder has done his job... when he went on camera talking about how he wanted to brainwash Americans against guns. His words.

              Nobody cares. They've been brainwashed, and if they see the people who have brainwashed them admitting that they wanted to brainwash them all along, they don't care!

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                whoisitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                In order to admit that you have been lied to you have to throw your blind allegiance aside, that isn't going to happen. Instead they will continue to blame guns for all the problems. I'm still watching the gun cam and it has not done a thing.

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    whoisitposted 4 years ago
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      JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Yup, this is what all the emotional arguing over guns leads to. Of course, *they* will never admit that they are emotional arguments.

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    SpanStarposted 4 years ago

    Irrational behavior, overreaction in a crisis situation I can agree with that. But what frightens me more than this is the lack of concern for gun deaths, gun injuries day after day, year after year-how many people must die before finally someone says ENOUGH?

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      JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      To be honest, there are millions and millions of people who die from all sorts of causes, that the majority of people aren't concerned about.

      The question isn't whether or not people are dying. Saying ENOUGH doesn't do anything.

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        SpanStarposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I take it from your remarks the best thing we can do is standard quote-Do Nothing as always.

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          JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Nope, not what I said.

          Best thing we can do is to free up gun laws, let people defend themselves, and educate people about guns.

          If we're just concerned over the number of lives lost, we need desperately to focus on smoking, diets, and driving campaigns.

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            whoisitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            It sounds like Diane Feinstein is going to violate her oath of office and try to have some weapons banned.

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            SpanStarposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Like I said back to the standard quote-do anything and everything except deal with the most serious issue for human safety in this country and possibly a around the world-it seems to me Enough is enough. We are in a sad state of affairs when waitresses have to walk around with shoulder holsters, school teachers have to teach a class wearing assault rifles. Our message to the world will then be come to America and make sure you're fully armed.

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              whoisitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Irrationality is catching.

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              JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Read it again. I didn't say do nothing, did I?

              I didn't say ignore the 'most serious issue for human safety'. Guns aren't the most serious issue in this country either... not by a long shot.

              If you want to talk about crime, there are plenty of things we can do for that too.

              You probably want to focus on banning assault rifles though, don't you?

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                whoisitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                You know it, waitresses have to wear shoulder holsters and all that.

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                SpanStarposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                We have over 350,000,000 guns in this country, whether we remove assault rifles from this country we will still be dealing with I had a lot of guns a long time thereafter. Hopefully by removing some of these assault rifles we can cut down on the number of citizens deaths in this country.

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                  whoisitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  15 Most common cause of deaths in the U.S. Gun control won't change these facts.

                  1. Diseases of the heart
                      28.5
                  2. Malignant tumors    22.8
                  3. Cerebrovascular diseases    6.7
                  4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases    5.1
                  5. Accidents (unintentional injuries)    4.4
                  6. Diabetes mellitus    3.0
                  7. Influenza and pneumonia    2.7
                  8. Alzheimer's disease    2.4
                  9. Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis     1.7
                  10. Septicemia (blood poisoning)     1.4
                  11. Suicide    1.3
                  12. Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis    1.1
                  13. Primary hypertension and hypertensive renal disease     0.8
                  14. Parkinson's disease (tied)    0.7
                  15. Homicide (tied)     0.7

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                    SpanStarposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    I take it most of what you've listed here is out of the hands of humans which is to say there isn't much we can do about them but we can do something about gun violence.

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                    Education Answerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    New York has moved to fix some of these problems!  Not only have they addressed their concerns about guns, they have addressed their concerns about soda.  Remember, anything above 16 ounces is banned in fast food restaurants.  That should do the trick.  Much like banning guns solves violence, banning sodas makes us all thin and healthy.

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                  JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Assault rifles, which are responsible for something like 40 deaths a year...

                  See my point, you're not focusing on the greatest safety issues our country is facing. You're focusing on an emotional argument.

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                    Education Answerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    I agree.

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                  innersmiffposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  'Hopefully' we'll be able to cut down on the 40 deaths per year from assault rifles by violating property rights. I'm spectacularly unconvinced.

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              Education Answerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              What's the solution, take guns away from law abiding citizens?  Do you really truly believe that criminals and murders are going to turn in their guns?

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                whoisitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Have you read her posts? She truly believes that.

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      whoisitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I have said enough, I quit using my finger as a gun, I will never kill again!

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    SpanStarposted 4 years ago

    I have grown tired so I will take my leave.

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      whoisitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      That's generally what happens.

 
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