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Insights into what the left thinks f you.

  1. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s2.hubimg.com/u/7695677_f248.jpg
    Just so you now.
    There will be more than one and there may be a quiz.

    1. Don W profile image83
      Don Wposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      How ironic that you use this quote to participate in the left vs. right game which helps perpetually divide the nation, allowing a privileged few to keep you and the rest of the population in place.

      You are the epitome of the statement you are highlighting.

      1. Marquis profile image60
        Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        The nation has always been divided.

    2. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I would not be surprised at much of what either side thought of all of us. Lemmings comes to mind.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I have taken some really vicious attacks on HP and told I should quit whining and get a tougher skin.
        I post a few pictures not directed at a particular individual and it's Armageddon.

        1. rhamson profile image76
          rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I did not know who said this quote but it is one I told my sons over and over again when they were growing up. It has such a deep meaning few grasp. Thanks for sharing this.

    3. Josak profile image61
      Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      What was Noam Chomsky talking about? in that qoute... I believe you are a perfect example of it, and he is a leftist.

  2. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    Oh well I screwed up the title but it may be more accurate than we think.

    1. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Did you forget to put a comma after the word, 'thinks'? big_smile

  3. janesix profile image60
    janesixposted 3 years ago

    This is old news.

    All polititians think this way.

  4. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7695683_f248.jpg

    1. Marquis profile image60
      Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      lol  it is great!

  5. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7695687_f248.jpg

    1. Zelkiiro profile image85
      Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I'd trust the guy on the left before the chick on the right any day of the week. Tea Party lunatics are fscking terrifying.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Well it's good to know you got mis-educated.

      2. Josak profile image61
        Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        The truth is they are ideologically speaking essentially the same, religious, conservative hardliners with strong nationalist overtones,
        One is Islam, social conservatism and pan arabism the other is Christianity, social and economic conservatism and the USA.

        1. Barefootfae profile image60
          Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          So they are both wrong..........?

          1. Josak profile image61
            Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Absolutely.

        2. kateperez profile image75
          kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I think they are more foundationalists, not that this is actually a word.

          I think the Tea Party wants to be left alone to do what they want to do without big mamma government telling them what they want to do is wrong, or not "good for them". 

          The Tea Party is nothing more than the right side of the Occupy movement, which a left side movement.

          To fear one is to fear the other because they are both extreme measures of the real "99%"  The citizens of what used to be the United States, but is now merely referred to as America.

          I am very concerned that people, even here, complain about the division in the country yet continue to divide.

  6. MelissaBarrett profile image60
    MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago

    Just wondering... was there an actually point to this thread that we might be getting to later?  Or are you just trying to start arguments?

    If so don't worry about a title... Just write "I want to troll" as your next title.

    1. Barefootfae profile image60
      Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/7696413_f248.jpg

      1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
        MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        So that's a no to having a point?

        Okay, I can safely dismiss anything you have to say in the future.  Good luck with that whole wanting to be the center of attention thing.

      2. Marquis profile image60
        Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        The woman's plan to exterminate Blacks has gone well.

        1. rhamson profile image76
          rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          RLMAO!

  7. Greekgeek profile image98
    Greekgeekposted 3 years ago

    I'm a member of the left.

    Hint: I believe in thinking. In THINKING. Not in parroting what other people say, not in having conversations via bumper stickers, macros, or quotes. I believe in thinking for myself.

    I don't think all the time about YOU, and I don't judge you.

    Apparently, from the title of this thread, and from all your posts, you think about the left constantly. Unfortunately, your way of communicating is to pepper other people with stereotypes that you feel perfectly justified in plastering on them, rather than...

    ...finding out what they actually think.

    1. Marquis profile image60
      Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Sorry, we do NOT believe you. I have seen how members of the Left thinks.
      It is unpatriotic. As a matter of fact, it is disgusting.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        It's another one of those......Hey you should shut up no matter what we say or stand back and let others say about you....deals.

        1. tammybarnette profile image60
          tammybarnetteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Actually greekgeek was making a solid point and Marquis and yourself drove the point home...what is that saying, about the pot calling the kettle black....

    2. kateperez profile image75
      kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I'm intrigued.

      What do you, as a member of the "left" think?

      This is a valid question from a member of the "right" who also likes to think.  I think about how I'm going to pay my house note when the economy is in the tank.  I think about why it is fair that people who refuse to work get to have some of my weak paycheck.   I think about how it seems to be right to tell me what to eat, what to do, what to buy, and where to park my car.  I think about how much division there is even though this is supposed to be a "tolerant" country.  I think that I'm tired of all news outlets---left, right, center (is there center news?).  I think about passing my classes and maintaining my 4.0, and I think about how I'm going to make it to tomorrow.

      I think that I'd like to know what the "Left" thinks about to see what we may have in common and what may need discussion to find either common ground or understanding.

  8. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    What does the left think of me?

         They think that I am a ruthless, cold hearted person. They think that I am a rich u no what. (Even though I'm not.) They think that I am selfish and mean and ultimately, very tragically, and officially uncool. They think I over react. That I am chicken little.
    and the left thinks that I believe in too many restrictions on   t h e i r   liberty.
    Such as their liberty to have sex willy nilly and their liberty to vacuum out developing human embryos from wombs. Their Liberty to tax whoever THEY declare deserves to be taxed for what ever reason THEY deem to be relevant.
    ...Their Liberty to limit our access to the natural elements and sources of energy needed for a civilized, industrial, non third world country...
    Well, you asked.

    1. Marquis profile image60
      Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Well stated Kathryn.

      1. kateperez profile image75
        kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        From one Kathryn to another:

        I appreciate your comments. 

        I think that if the Left thinks that the Right puts restrictions on people, that they may want to re-check their facts.

        1. rhamson profile image76
          rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          What I would be asking is who owns you? The left and right argument is played. Who really runs the country and what do they do to profit from such crazy distractions?

          1. kateperez profile image75
            kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            That is a good question.

            In the United States, we are supposedly in ownership of ourselves.  But the government seems to beg to differ.

    2. Zelkiiro profile image85
      Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      And what does the Right think of you?

      "Shut up and give me your money, asshole."

      1. kateperez profile image75
        kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        What?

        The right is supposed to be the rich folks.  They don't need "your money".

        The Occupiers were not right, they are left... and what do they scream and hold signs saying???  That the rich 1% must give them, the occupiers, their hard-earned money because they don't want to go out and earn their own.

        What a twisted idea it is to think that rich folks want the poor folks' money when the poor folks get the benefits:  free entitlements they did not pay for at the expense of the rich folks who paid into the system.....    and the not-so-rich folks... who suffer because of the open hands, and the open mouths of those who won't shut their hands over a shovel, or their mouths, in general.

        1. Zelkiiro profile image85
          Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          "The right is supposed to be the rich folks.  They don't need "your money"."

          You're right, they don't need it. But they still want it. Every last penny of it.

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            That is after all, how they got rich in the first place.

          2. Marquis profile image60
            Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            That made no sense at all.

  9. grand old lady profile image90
    grand old ladyposted 3 years ago

    I wonder, do any of the left have close friends from the right, and vice versa? Because i have an aunt I love very much, she is very outspoken and I disagree with her a lot. She is very conservative. But she's my favorite aunt, so I just listen to her but say nothing. And I see how much love she has, how kind she is and how she is so giving in every little thing. And I have friends on the left but we usually don't talk politics anyway, we talk of what we're gonna do, go malling, etc.

    The divide is so strong it seems, in America but I wonder if it is to the point that left and right don't make friends and don't mix? Just curious because I have lived in the Philippines so long and am quite out of touch about stuff like this in the USA.

    1. PrettyPanther profile image85
      PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I have several close friends who are conservative. It takes mutual respect.

      1. habee profile image91
        habeeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I agree. My best friend is a liberal Dem, and my husband is a conservative R. I'm sort of in the middle. We discuss politics all the time, yet we never get angry because we respect each other's opinions. Maybe I'm naive, but I honestly think most Americans want what's best for the county - they just have different ideas about the paths to take. I've found that if you sit down and have a calm, reasonable discussion with someone from the "other side," you'll often find that you share some common ground. More of that is needed, IMO. We're much too divided.

        1. grand old lady profile image90
          grand old ladyposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Oh, okay that's nice to know. I think you're right, Habee, everyone wants what's best for your country, including the Philippines. What happens to the US affects the world.

    2. MelissaBarrett profile image60
      MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I'm married to a conservative republican.  I'm a liberal.

      We get along just fine... possibly because both of us have better things to do than fight about politics.

      The nation is divided because a very few of us don't want to do anything but argue.  Unfortunately we've either elected these people or gave them their own talk show.  Now lots of other people mimic the words of their new "Gods" and fight with the followers of other new "Gods".

      It gives them something to do other than... you know... having a life.

      I myself enjoy my little fights online- when I am hormonal and/or pissed about something total unrelated.  I lived on here for the last three months of my pregnancy when I was bedbound/isolated/horribly emotional/ and off of my depression meds.  I think that particular mental state is common among those who argue politics and religion on online venues.

      1. PrettyPanther profile image85
        PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I am a liberal married to a conservative Republican.  We never fight about politics.  We've been together for 6 years now.

        My previous long-term relationship was also with a conservative Republican.  We were together from the years 2000 to 2006.  We did argue about politics and, from my perspective, it was not me who was the problem.  I'm sure he had a different view, but honestly, he would have been wrong.  I swear, after 9/11, he went a little nuts.  Prior to that, we discussed political and social issues without a problem.  After 9/11, he became angry and upset if I didn't agree with our President and I didn't agree a LOT, especially about the invasion of Iraq, torture policies, and the loss of our civil liberties.  He called me a traitor; he tried to tell how to vote; one day, he even became apoplectic about a comical, anti-Bush screensaver my teenager had put on his computer and "ordered" me to take it off.  It was ridiculous! 

        I think one of the reasons I sometimes argue with conservatives on these forums is I see that mindset represented here and I cannot resist responding to it.  Plus, I just like to argue.  big_smile

        1. innersmiff profile image79
          innersmiffposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Have your views changed or are you just ignoring the fact Obama is now even worse than Bush on those issues?

          1. PrettyPanther profile image85
            PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            No, I have not changed.

            Let me ask you:  why do you assume that I ignore that Obama is worse on those issues?  That is, of course, assuming that he is "worse."

            1. innersmiff profile image79
              innersmiffposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Well because you seem more concerned about complaining about Republicans than you are about the horrific crimes, and human rights abuses of the Obama administration. Tell me how important that Rubio/water incident is in comparison to the drones, NDAA, kill lists, illegal wars etc. I'm asking for perspective.

              1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                What you see is one tiny piece of me here on these forums.  That is what we all see.  It is important not to draw conclusions based upon that, although I know I am also guilty of doing so.  I replied to a thread started by someone else; that does not mean that I view that issue as more important than other issues that are not currently being discussed here.  It also does not mean that I spend even one iota of my time outside of these forums worrying about it.

                If you knew what I do in my private life, you would not even be asking the question.  I deplore some of the actions of this administration and recognize that they are not much different from those of previous administrations, both Republican and Democrat.

                1. Barefootfae profile image60
                  Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  You didn't get the whole message I guess.
                  Go in peace it ain't you.

        2. MelissaBarrett profile image60
          MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          LOL!  Well admitting you have a problem is the first step.

          I like to argue too... and do here quite often.  Generally I actually like the person I am arguing with.  I tend to ignore those I don't like...  Therefore I don't really think of them as brainless idiots with nothing valid to say.

          Some people have to feel that way about their "opponent" to validate the fact that they are being stereotypical and ignorant.  It's called dehumanization.  Which is really the root of problem if you think about it.

    3. Marquis profile image60
      Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Well you are in for a culture shock if you decide to come here. The Left believes in the welfare state and keeping people there. They also believe in little or no border security. They make excuses for people who enter the United States illegally.

      The Left also believes strongly in abortion and attacking the Christian  Church.

      1. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Bull,
        some on the left believe in abortion and attacking the Christian Church - just as some on the right do.

        1. Marquis profile image60
          Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I always seem to get comments off everything I post.

          John, the Left believes MORE in the welfare state supported by Big Government. That is NO BULL. The Right does not believe in such things. John, what side of the spectrum attacks the school prayers and force schools/churches to teach sexual reproduction to Middle Schoolers?

          Want a hint? Also, what side fought hard for pornography saying that porn fell under Free Speech. Then you wonder why American television and movies are so sexually graphic?

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            The welfare state is very much a tool of the right - have you never heard of "if you don't work, you don't eat" and "from each according to ability, to each according to need"?

            Are you sure it is only the left wing that attacks school prayers and not people of none Christian religions?

            Your desire to keep the mechanics of reproduction secret is not very effective, and not very humane.

            A hint for you, Pornographers are some of the most right wing capitalists you could never wish to meet.
            BTW, why do you keep all the sexually graphic movies for yourselves lol Share them around I say.

            1. Marquis profile image60
              Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Dang, I posted a little too fast on the last post.

            2. Barefootfae profile image60
              Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              John,
              That one quote is a Communist statement. Not the right.
              From each to each?

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                whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                He will counter with communism is a right wing ideology.

                1. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  No, communism isn't a right wing ideology. Communism as practised in the USSR was capitalist in its aspirations though.

                  1. Marquis profile image60
                    Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Communism was practiced in the old USSR. It is no longer the USSR anymore. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics cease to exist after 1991.

                    Capitalism and Communism are two different sort of systems.

              2. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I'm confused! Are you claiming that communism is a right wing ideology?

                1. Marquis profile image60
                  Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Nope, you are.

                  1. John Holden profile image60
                    John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    So you're telling me that communism is a right wing ideology!

                2. Barefootfae profile image60
                  Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  NO, I am claiming that statement is Communist. And it is.

                  1. John Holden profile image60
                    John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    And I'm not disagreeing with you, so what exactly is your point?

                  2. Marquis profile image60
                    Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Communism is at an end anyway. Just like the King and Queen nonsense in a few countries.

                    UK still lives in Medieval Age with King/Queen nonsense.

            3. Marquis profile image60
              Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I have yet to meet any pornographers on the Right. When Right Wing Catholics and Evangelicals were protesting against open pornography, were the porn capitalists rooting those people on?

              I do not have sexually graphic movies either. I was just speaking on the subject. You seem to be feeling a little guilty John.

              I do not desire the mechanics of anything secret. It is just some people have dirty minds. Look at how things are now. I guess it is fine with you.

              What I meant by the welfare state is that more people on the Left tend to agree with it more and the sponsoring of such a social system. Every Right Wing person I have ever met was not or never was on welfare. People abuse that sort of safety net. You see it in the inner city all the time.

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Funny, one of the owners of one of the most right wing newspapers in the UK was a pornographer!

                I don't feel guilty about my sexuality and I'm not embarrassed by depictions of it, as long as it'snot exploitative.

                And as for no right wing person ever being on welfare - I'm speechless with laughter. You must have a very small circle of friends.

                1. Marquis profile image60
                  Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I live in the U.S. not the UK. Maybe pornographers do things differently over in the UK versus the U.S.

                  The right wing persons that I know. That is what I said. I never said no right wing persons in general.

                  1. John Holden profile image60
                    John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    The implication was there that there were no right wingers claiming welfare.

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                  whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I had a friend who was very right wing in his ideology who once applied for food stamps after four fingers were cut off in an accident. He was unable to work for quite a while and qualified for exactly 12 dollars a month in assistance.

                  He was told that because he was single and had no children that it was all he could get. He was also told that it would have been better if he had just not worked prior to this incident then he could have received more help.

                  1. Marquis profile image60
                    Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    What those social services look for are:

                    1.single mother with father less babies.

                    The more fatherless the babies, the better. The more single the women, the better. Great plan to make people dependent on the government.

            4. kateperez profile image75
              kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              If you don't work, you should find a way to eat without taking food from the mouths of those who managed to work for what they got.

              Chicken in every pot?  democrat.  Social Security?  Democrat.  Medicare/Medicaid?  Democrat.   Every social program?  Democrat.

              now that they are here, and people have been made dependent on them the Republicans are trying to find ways that next generations have choices that do not keep them suckling on the teat of big government through private investments for their own medical and their own retirement.

              That is Republican (conservatives, anyway) ideology.  Hand-up, not hand-out...

              Well, this Republican, anyway.

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Exactly.
                Now tell that to all the shareholders, bankers, CEOs and everybody else who thinks that the world owes them even more than they have now.

                1. kateperez profile image75
                  kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I don't give them anything...   Shareholders invested in those companies... it is actually an earned income--sort of.

                  CEO's did not start out being CEO's, they worked up to that point...  they believe that capitalism is their answer to success.

                  No one who is a CEO or shareholder, or banker, is trying to keep others from making money, either.  They WANT others to make money because that is how they can make more.

                  I'm totally not an economist, but it seems to my regular "joe" mind that if you want to make money, others must also be making it.

                  That is the mentality that will make taxes work in this country.  If fewer people work, then they have to take more from those who do work.  If more people work, then everyone prospers because no one group has to carry the burden that no other group is carrying.

                  1. John Holden profile image60
                    John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    I bet you don't even realise what you've just said!

                    You've just agreed with and confirmed my point.

              2. Zelkiiro profile image85
                Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                You forgot a few other inventions of the Left:

                - minimum wage
                - safe work conditions
                - the five-day work week
                - paid overtime

          2. rhamson profile image76
            rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            What side fought for money to be representative in and of its own. The right and Congress and its lobbyists continue to steal your property and freedom because of it.

            Choose a side is the conversation basics nowadays. A big argument and demonize your opponent.

            We are in such a heap of trouble and all we can do is point fingers and blame.

            1. Marquis profile image60
              Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Actually, the Left are the ones doing all the stealing. They also stomp on the U.S. Constitution all the time like their representative in the oval office.

              There is nothing like a little population control either. Just ask Obama. All we need now is to force the churches to pay for abortions.

              What ever happen to Separation of Church and State?

              1. rhamson profile image76
                rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                You keep pointing to one side of the paradigm thinking fixing them is the answer to the solution. The plutocracy runs this country and they cull their candidates from both sides. You just don't get it.

                If you want to discount the republican gerrymandering the vote as not theft and the institution of the Patriot act by Bush and now Obama as not stomping on your rights, you cannot see the forrest for the trees.

                Once again you wish to take away someones right to have control of their own body and claim Obama is the culprit. What a waste of time.

                And you should read up on the conditions required for religious healthcare systems and abortion. Do you want to start the death panel rumors again?

                You do know we still don't have a balanced budget and are still at war and the sequestration is looming again. Maybe you could come up with some solutions instead of just blaming somebody for the whole mess.

    4. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Another hubber recently stated some beautiful truths...he said conservatives and liberals are your neighbors, they will let you borrow a cup of sugar, a rake or lawn mower, give you a ride if your car breaks down, let you borrow their phone, etc...you go to church together, have children who play together...etc etc...the division is thanks to the propaganda machine of this country and those who love to share and perpetuate the propaganda, people love the dirty laundry, gossip, and lies; which is why our television programming now consists of the bad girls club and the Kardashians,lol big_smile

      1. Josak profile image61
        Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        ++++++++++++++++++++

  10. PrettyPanther profile image85
    PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago

    Actually, BFF's post is insight into BFF's thinking, and nothing more.  It is simply a reflection of her own feelings of persecution.

  11. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    My pont:

    Those of you who actually think of others and know the differene are posting here and I have seen you before and it's not about you.
    There's others ain't posting but when they do they will likely reply in kind and those are the ones who ain't thinking. Just looking for who's who.

    I apologize to the easily offended.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
      Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      It is possible that the right and the left have a common enemy; we just haven't pinpointed it yet!

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Yes it is . I try to point that out daily but usually what happens if someone progressive jumps and and starts personal attacks becasue mine is not a message they want out there..especially not right now.
        Those who responded who were mad at me are actually people who are thinking...not just going uh-hu uh-hu to the aims of what's going on.

      2. tammybarnette profile image60
        tammybarnetteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Yes...The corrupt elite, the powers that be, etc. But who are they?

        1. Josak profile image61
          Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Republicans if you ask a Democrat and Democrats if you ask a Republican tongue

          Or rich old white men and corporations if you are a leftist and socialist politicians and labor unions if you are of the right wing persuasion.

          1. tammybarnette profile image60
            tammybarnetteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            lol So Sad, and TRUE...

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            JaxsonRaineposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Any government if you are Libertarian. Illuminati/Rothschilds/Rockefellers if you are a loon. The devil if you are Christian. Christians if you're Muslim.

            I kid, I kid.

            1. tammybarnette profile image60
              tammybarnetteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              lol

  12. healthyfitness profile image84
    healthyfitnessposted 3 years ago

    Left, right, up, down. Doesn't matter. They both claim they did the good deeds and the other party was responsible for the bad deeds. Screw them both.

    1. Marquis profile image60
      Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      No, screw the Democrats.

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    Motown2Chitownposted 3 years ago

    My mom used to tell me when I was young that I wouldn't be at all concerned about how little people thought of me if I understood how little people thought of me.  Since then, I'm not too concerned at all about what others think of me - most of them don't have time to.

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    Then you have these characters.

    1. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      No surprise here. The reasoning for many years behind this statement is that America will never do a thing about their thirst for oil until a crisis is in their face. The statement is just a hurry up on the inevitable.

    2. Marquis profile image60
      Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Yet, Democrats say they are helping " the people."  Out of one corner of the mouth of the lying Democrat comes " All the Republicans care about is tax cuts for the rich." Out of the other corner of the lying mouth of the Democrat comes " Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels of Europe."

      Yet Europe is suppose to be a great example of civilization that the U.S. is suppose to follow.

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    1. kateperez profile image75
      kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I like this quote the best, so far.

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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      whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      That is too true.

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    1. Marquis profile image60
      Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      That made me laugh and it is VERY true.

      Socialists, Communists, Democrats are all TRASH equally. No cows needed.

      1. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Shame it is all wrong though.

        Is it good living in a fairy tale world?

        1. Marquis profile image60
          Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Communism according to Karl Marx was a fairy tale.

        2. Barefootfae profile image60
          Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          It's all right on the mark. Every word of it.

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Then your understanding of socialism is seriously flawed.

      2. tammybarnette profile image60
        tammybarnetteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Wow! You are a hatefilled one, aren't you? Maybe I should point out to you that democrats do not like being referred to as nazis...trash, etc. You should probably learn some manners.

        1. Marquis profile image60
          Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Democrats and NAZIs have MUCH in common.

          1.Taking arms from the people. Actually started in 1871.
          2.Universal healthcare. Actually started in 1871
          3.Animal rights. Hitler was a big lover of animals, nature and was a vegetarian.
          4.Hate of Jews. Democrats seem to hate Jews more than Muslims. They do everything in their power to support and make excuses for Islam while putting down Israel.

      3. rhamson profile image76
        rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        How did they all get the two cows in the first place?

        1. tammybarnette profile image60
          tammybarnetteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          They stole them from the Indians lol

          1. kateperez profile image75
            kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Cows aren't native to the USA.  Spain, I think.  smile

    2. Zelkiiro profile image85
      Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      The Republican one is wrong. It should read: "The Republican has two cows. He then buys exclusive rights to sell milk in that county, and charges his neighbors 4x the usual price of milk from their own cows, driving the entire neighborhood into abject poverty while he laughs it up in his 5-bathroom mansion."

      1. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Actually not quite right - the Republican passes laws that prevent anybody else from owning cows, then ratchets up the price of milk.

      2. Marquis profile image60
        Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        That made no sense. Democrats are the ones who drive people into poverty, not Republicans who believe in teaching the right fundamentals of staying away or out of poverty.

  19. Marquis profile image60
    Marquisposted 3 years ago

    ...For a better America

    1. Ban Porn
    2. Ban Abortion
    3. School in America should be 12 months.
    4. Prayers should be placed back into schools.
    5. Polite society should be encouraged.
    6. Death penalty for rape and murder should be imposed.
    7. Graffiti vandalism should be a crime.
    8. U.S. citizens should join the Armed Forces for at least 2 years.
    9. Immigration should not be allowed for 10 years minimum.
    10. Illegal immigrants should be arrested and put to death immediately. (after all, they were dying to get into America any way)

    1. John Holden profile image60
      John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      First you tried banning alcohol - look where that got you.

      Then you banned drugs, that got you even deeper in the doo dah!

      Need I go on?

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        whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        John, hell may have frozen over, I actually agree with you.

      2. Marquis profile image60
        Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Illegal drug trafficking is a crime in the United States. Cocaine leads to the deaths of many people and should be banned.

        Prohibition did not work because you had hypocrites in law enforcement. Of course you had a black market and the MAFIA too.

      3. kateperez profile image75
        kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I really think banning alcohol was stupid.  Those who want things will find ways  to get them:
        criminals with guns
        druggies with meth, crack, marijuana, etc...
        sexual deviants will find women
        lonely men will find prostitutes
        women will find "sugar daddies"
        Kids get booze/ >21 ID's/free term papers

        You cannot stop Americans from seeking out that which they want... They will get it regardless.

        Trying to make things criminal does not get rid of the thing.  It just puts more people behind bars to become victims of the system, or burdens on society.

        1. kateperez profile image75
          kateperezposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Before someone mis-understands me...
          I do not think criminals should have guns... 

          I do not think sexual deviants should rape women or children.

          I do think that there is not enough common sense to go around in those who make the laws.

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            And there is even less common sense amongst those who the laws apply to.

            I actually have nothing against gun ownership in principle. What I do object to is those who see guns as penis extensions and who want to ----- the world with their guns.
            All this hideous posturing and showing off - mines bigger than yours - that is what is wrong, not gun ownership itself.

        2. Marquis profile image60
          Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          You can with stiffer penalties.

    2. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Sounds like a third world country, no thank you, I believe in the FREEDOM of America, I do not need a government Daddy.

    3. rhamson profile image76
      rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Can I get a rousing Sieg Heil from somebody else?

      1. Josak profile image61
        Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        *sigh* Nazism a la Americana.

        1. Barefootfae profile image60
          Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          http://s3.hubimg.com/u/7708494_f248.jpg

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Now you're beginning to see the danger of extreme right wingers.

            1. tammybarnette profile image60
              tammybarnetteposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              John, You have probably already read this but I am in the process of reading Plato's The Republic...very interesting as to this thread and conversation smile

          2. Zelkiiro profile image85
            Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Joke's on you; fascism is a methodology of the extreme Right.

            1. Barefootfae profile image60
              Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Joke's on you. The left are the ones trying to employ his methods right now.

              1. Josak profile image61
                Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                No they are not, no one is banning weapons in the USA.
                Regan was the one who banned automatic weapons in the USA.

                1. Barefootfae profile image60
                  Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Wait for it............

                2. wilderness profile image97
                  wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  And yet...Missouri has a bill before it to confiscate any semi-automatic rifle with a thumbhole stock.  Not ban, mind you, confiscate

                  Because, you know, that thumbhole stock instantly turns a kindly hunter into a ravenous killer.  Yeah, right!

                  1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                    PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Actually, the proposed law would ban semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines and pistol grip or thumbhole stock. 
                    http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bi … B0545I.HTM

                    I'm no expert in state gun control laws, but I think this is a commonly used definition.

                  2. bBerean profile image61
                    bBereanposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    I guess Washington state tried to sneak past a bill that would ban "assault" rifles and require anyone grandfathered in with one to allow access to their home at least annually to show a sheriff how their weapon and ammo is stored.  I understand it was stopped.

            2. Marquis profile image60
              Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Not really. Fascism has more to do with the Left than Right. The media has blurred that one as well.

              1. Uninvited Writer profile image83
                Uninvited Writerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Lol... another person who doesn't have a clue about fascism...  Rely more on the history books than the media...

                1. Marquis profile image60
                  Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Maybe I should explain it to you.

                  1. John Holden profile image60
                    John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Yes, I'd love to read your explanation of how fascism is more to do with the left than the right!

                    This should be good for a laugh.

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    Now this man was a Democrat. What happened?

    1. Marquis profile image60
      Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Bare lmao

      Hey Bare, what happen was the Socialists invaded the Democrat Party. We both know that Socialists love the welfare system and are anti family and anti war.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah, see this was pre-60's freak out.
        Compare him to his brother who was called the Liberal Lion.
        You know....the one that killed a woman and got away with it and became a hero.

        1. Marquis profile image60
          Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          May the hypocrite burn in Hell too. And he had the nerves to call himself a Catholic.

      2. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        They came in after Johnson.....all the 60's folks became professors and lawyers and then politicians and now they are who is spreading the road apples in our society.

        Neil Young is happy. His albums are still selling.

  22. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    1. John Holden profile image60
      John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      What about all the shareholders?

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        That's not what he is talking about there and the fact you can't see that speaks volumes about the level of indoctrination you are under.

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          But what about all the shareholders who want to take other peoples money?

          1. Barefootfae profile image60
            Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            That's not what he is talking about.
            You do have the capacity to follow the conversation don't you?

            1. John Holden profile image60
              John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Don't you?

              I'm asking why he is critical of some people who live off other peoples money but uncritical of others who do exactly the same thing.

              Or perhaps I'm asking you that question!

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                whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                You should revisit the thread about how the rich should be paying for the poor, you still do not get it.

                1. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  What exactly don't I get?

                  As far as I can see it is the poor paying for the rich, could that be why they are poor?

                  1. 59
                    whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    The opposite has been explained to you many many times. Forget it.

  23. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    1. John Holden profile image60
      John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      All the more reason for avoiding the extreme right.

      1. rhamson profile image76
        rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
        Lord Acton

        1. Barefootfae profile image60
          Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          So looking at the America political landscape of today who has the absolute power?

          1. Josak profile image61
            Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            No one.

            1. Barefootfae profile image60
              Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Really?

              One party can advance their legislation and the other can't.
              Care to try again?

              1. Josak profile image61
                Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Do you know what absolute power means? Look it up.

                While Republican control Congress and most of the State governments neither side has absolute power. (Which is why the system was designed this way in the constitution).

                Not to mention that the constitution itself restricts the power of government so even if one side owned all seats they would still not have absolute power.

                1. Barefootfae profile image60
                  Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Uh-huh.

                  One party still has everything bottled up so only their ideas get voted on. Call that what you will.

                  1. Josak profile image61
                    Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    There are plenty of names for that I prefer elected officials myself but it certainly ain't absolute power.

      2. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        John.....

        Who is trying to establish gun controls RIGHT NOW?
        It ain't the far right.

    2. Zelkiiro profile image85
      Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I saw a movie where only the police had guns. It was called EVERY JAPANESE EVERYTHING EVER.

      And hey, wouldn'cha know it, Japan's doing a hell of a lot better economically than we are right now!

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        It's amazing what you don't know that you don't know.

        But...then again...you don't care.

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    1. Josak profile image61
      Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Good to see you think of the poor as nothing more than wild animals.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Good to see you don't comprehend we treat them worse than animals.

        1. Josak profile image61
          Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          No we don't, we understand they are intlleigent eneough to be treated differently from the way animals are.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
            Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            You do not get it, Josak.
            What a surprise.

            1. John Holden profile image60
              John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              You ever thought that that may be because you don't express yourself clearly?

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                She has made it perfectly clear with her very clever photographic illustrations.  The bear sitting at the picnic table is the bear who is waiting for his hand out. Read the words carefully... actually, I will go ahead and keyboard them here for you.

                                                "Please Do Not Feed the Animals
                because the animals may grow dependent and not learn to take care of themselves."

                Apparently, we are kinder to animals than to people, in this day and age.

                PS It isn't rocket science. It is social science.
                Patiently smiling.

                1. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  On the contrary, Josak said quite clearly that it was good that the poor were viewed as no more than animals.

                  That was quite clear and comprehensible unlike . . .

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    I've got your number, John. Don't even bother with me. I've known ever since the response ages ago (Elsewhere) about not using condoms. LOL!

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                    whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Gee John, why do call the poor animals?

                2. Josak profile image61
                  Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I responded to that precisely, yes we don't feed animals because dependency is an issue, we treat people differently because they are more intelligent and responsible, animals are not capable of understanding where such food comes from or the consequences of taking it, people are.

                  It's biology not rocket science.

                  Not to mention that we have all kinds of reserves and animal welfare centers where we do feed animals in need.

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    The more people who become dependent upon government assistance (through food stamps and welfare), the more people there are for the government to continue feeding... somehow! Consider that some people do have a propensity to take the easiest or most comfortable path. As they get used to welfare they come to expect it and it becomes a lifestyle. Succeeding generations also become dependent on it.
                    The bottom line concern here is the proper use of TAXES and keeping them low.

                  2. Barefootfae profile image60
                    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

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    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    1. Josak profile image61
      Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      On the contrary both collapse without the other, without both working together for example there can be no law and no justice system, surely even you see the value of those things.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Yes...I also seed you don't see reality or the truth of that statement literally.

  28. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    Some of the forum posters will never be convinced of the truth. I really think they are response addicts. They know what will bring about a response... going against common sense. Sense which is so common that insisting on the opposite will bring about a response every time its tried.
    Right, John?

    1. John Holden profile image60
      John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      As one you are one  who'll never be convinced of the truth you'd better tell me.

      You know the thing about common sense is that it is not at all common and rarely possessed by those to claim to have it in abundance.

      I'm reminded of a disgruntled scratch card loser who declared "Of course -1 is lower than -6, it's common sense!"

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
        Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        No, that person did not have an adequate understanding of the number line. I believe this example to be an inadequate demonstration of a lack of common sense.
        Common sense is that which IS common... (whether they understand, comprehend, or know it,)
                                                           to ALL people.
        Such as this example:
        People, like animals, may become dependent on a ready and easy source of food supply (or income) and can become complaisant, not willing to find other means of obtaining it.
        Everyone (who is familiar with human nature) knows this statement to be true - of human nature in general. (Except  Mr. Josak who apparently does not have a proper understanding of human nature. He, instead has an idealistic understanding of human nature. He may even think that all men are angels! But, now I am digressing from the topic of common sense. So sorry.)

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          You miss my point entirely, she thought it was common sense, as do many who claim that their (dis)beliefs are common sense.

          So you know it is true that every person will become dependant on hand outs given the chance!

          Like I said, common sense doesn't have much to do with sense.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
            Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            So, you, like Josak, think that all men are closer to being angels, than not?
            (Oh, what am I doing...)

            1. John Holden profile image60
              John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Well if you admit that you would easily rely on others for a subsistence level of life then who am I to argue with you?

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                This is right John. Who are you to argue with me?
                And angels do not need to eat!

                1. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I see you are avoiding answering
                  "And how much of your taxes are spent on looking after the disadvantaged compared with the amount of tax spent on killing, sorry, showing the light to foreigners?"

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Is Your question,
                    How much of "my" taxes are spent on killing foreigners?
                    Do you mean me, personally?

            2. Josak profile image61
              Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I do, most people are just doing their best, the statistics back that up, 91% of government entitlements go to, working households, elderly and disabled people. That means just 9% of the people receiving government aid are not in a working household, about a third of those are single parents and how many of them are just genuinely looking for work? my guess is the majority which means that factually speaking we are looking at a miniscule portion of people "working the system".

              So low in fact that the total amount of money spent on non working households including disabled and elderly people comes to just 0.16% of our annual GDP a truly insignificant figure.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                How about this idea: The government needs to create a special branch called the Welfare Branch. This Branch or Agency is responsible for operating a government corporation called We Bring Relief, Inc. or something.  It would be for the purpose of using all profits (after paying its employees, operation expenses, etc.) to the disadvantaged.
                (Of course there would have to be a check of some sort in place so that the government does not use the funds for other purposes.  There could be auditors, and security agents to make sure of this.)
                Then the people would not have to be taxed and the money they are are being taxed could go to the appropriate places.

                1. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Appropriate places like countries with governments you don't approve of?

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    okay...you mean wars, etc.
                    I agree. totally.
                    Thank You, once again.
                    It all sucks. I want Peace too!
                    Do you think there would be more peace in the world if the politicians and all were not so greedy?  and opinionated, and pig-headed in general?
                    Of course. How can we change them or the situation.
                    How?

  29. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

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    1. John Holden profile image60
      John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, be careful of right wingers!

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Barack Obama is not a right winger.
        Whatever else he may be he is not a right winger.

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Well he certainly isn't left wing so where does that leave the poor guy?

        2. Josak profile image61
          Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Internationally speaking he is a centrist. In Australia and NZ he would be considered mildly right, in South America center right.

    2. Josak profile image61
      Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      AHAHHAAAHAHAHAAAAAAHH sooooooo many people have had their own symbols, it stuns me that you manage to get out of bed.

      This is the Reagan symbol btw: https://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&a … B341%3B350

      Not to mention that the Swastika wasn't Hitler's symbol.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image86
        Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Actually Obama is a pretty good front man. I am conservative and actually felt peaceful after hearing his State of the Union Speech. Good enough for now. Maybe he will fall in love with the people and do what he can to save us from the people holding his puppet strings. Does he have a heart for the American people?
        ?

      2. Drhu profile image59
        Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        You know I have noticed you are always just a little too eager to belittle others you don't agree with.
        There are different forms of society you will never get everyone to agree to. You dislike the US and it's current form and others dislike Socialism/Marxism/ ism this and ism that.
        That's not going to change in these forums.

      3. Drhu profile image59
        Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        And by the way Josak......
        Ronald Reagan didn't replace the American flag with his little personal/campaign symbol on his aircraft when he was running for office. He had more character than that.

        1. PrettyPanther profile image85
          PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Neither did Obama.  http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/airplane.asp

          Are you embarrassed to be so consistently wrong?  Does it ever occur to you to check if the Faux Outrage of the Week is real or fabricated?

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            No of course he isn't, he's a right winger after all!

            1. Barefootfae profile image60
              Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/b … _plane.htm

              He did it to his campaign plane. Not Air Force One.

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I think you'll find that Drhu did neither to either!

              2. PrettyPanther profile image85
                PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Oh, the outrage!

                http://graphics2.snopes.com/politics/graphics/mccainplane_small.jpg

            2. scottcgruber profile image92
              scottcgruberposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Exactly. Conservatives are never wrong. They just make up their own set of facts.

              Why do you think they created Conservapedia?

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                lol

              2. Barefootfae profile image60
                Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Oh so Maxine is right on the money huh?

  30. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s1.hubimg.com/u/7740808_f248.jpg

    1. Drhu profile image59
      Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/7740905_f248.jpg

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Change?

        Have about 54 cents right now I think.......

  31. Drhu profile image59
    Drhuposted 3 years ago

    Here's what Josak linked to:


    http://s1.hubimg.com/u/7741440_f248.jpg


    which is a common campaign symbol used in 1980.....thirty years ago and gone.
    Barack Obama still uses his symbol. He has even tried to see what it looks like replacing the field of stars on the flag.

    Of course i know you don't care Panther.....I didn't expect you to.

  32. PrettyPanther profile image85
    PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/08/30/t1larg.romney.plane.august30.jpg


    Some people get it.  Others don't.

    http://blog.caturpw.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/quote-dan-schawbel.jpg

    1. Drhu profile image59
      Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      uh-hu....you don't
      Is the flag still on the tail?

  33. PrettyPanther profile image85
    PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago

    Obama's campaign plane had two flags, one on each side of the plane.

    I couldn't care less whether or not Romney, Obama or anyone kept a flag on their plane.  In the grand scheme of what matters in this world, flags on planes rank pretty low.

    1. Drhu profile image59
      Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you. i knew you felt that way. now I am certain.

      1. PrettyPanther profile image85
        PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Are you equally outraged at Mitt's horrible transgression of having a logo on the tail and flags on each side of the plane, just like President Obama?

        https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQz64uK1M6OmQfwM2OQCWZt-vN7KzQAtixwzobYhgEMJ-3yODAW

        https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWrelIgZXTNvuQOTkw6VntTRlup7idoxLcZlieqHL4GltPwS4v6g

        1. scottcgruber profile image92
          scottcgruberposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Mitt Romney had his own logo?

          That means he's just like Hitler!

          1. PrettyPanther profile image85
            PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            I know.  Who knew?  Thank goodness we have people like DrEw and BFF to educate us about the real meaning of logos and flags on plane tails.

            I'm so grateful someone really thinks about these important issues so I don't have to.

        2. Barefootfae profile image60
          Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Did they remove the US flag to do so?
          if so then yes I am.
          Proof is on you kitty kat.

          1. Drhu profile image59
            Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            And I agree.....it wasn't as much about who as what.

            1. PrettyPanther profile image85
              PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Yet, you only mentioned Obama.

              Hmmmmm

          2. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            They actually removed a registered trade mark based on the US flag.

          3. PrettyPanther profile image85
            PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Why does it matter?  Who the hell cares?  It was their property to do with as they wish.

            1. Drhu profile image59
              Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Not if it was with taxpayer dollars.

            2. 59
              whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              They own their own planes?

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Or lease them, as most airline do now.

                1. Drhu profile image59
                  Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  They are provided by taxpayer dollars when campaigning as nominee.

                  1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                    PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this
              2. PrettyPanther profile image85
                PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Obviously, you and Drhu haven't really read about what actually happened because you are content to wallow in your silly outrage.

                "Given the length and breadth of modern presidential campaigns, it has become de rigueur for most major party candidates to have their own airplanes for ferrying themselves and staffers, press, security, and other personnel from stop to stop along the campaign trail. Such planes may be purchased by the candidate's campaign, or they may be leased or chartered from commercial airlines. Typically when a campaign owns its own airplane or leases a plane under a dedicated charter arrangement, the aircraft's exterior markings will be modified to identify it as a particular candidate's campaign plane, with some notable recent examples of this practice including aircraft used by presidential candidates Bob Dole (1996), George W. Bush (2000), John Kerry (2004) and John McCain's "Straight Talk Express" campaign plane (from 2008):


                Although Senator Barack Obama flew on a variety of aircraft during the long 2008 presidential campaign season, from March through June 2008 he primarily used a Boeing 757-200ER aircraft chartered from (and operated by) North American Airlines as his campaign plane. During that period, the plane bore the standard color scheme and company markings of a North American Airlines aircraft:


                However, once the primary campaign effectively ended and Senator Obama became the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, his campaign plane underwent a month-long refurbishment to prepare it for the general election campaign, a process that included reconfiguring the interior seating and modifying the exterior markings to identify and publicize the aircraft as Barack Obama's official campaign plane. The latter activity included replacing the North American Airline color scheme and markings with the Obama campaign slogan ("Change We Can Believe In"), the BARACKOBAMA.COM domain name, and Obama's sunrise/flag "O" campaign logo"

                1. 59
                  whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Who exactly are you talking to? You reply to my post and address someone else.

                  1. PrettyPanther profile image85
                    PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Typo:  it should have said you and drhu.  I just fixed it.

      2. PrettyPanther profile image85
        PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        How about this one? 

        http://blogs.mcall.com/penn_ave/images/2008/06/30/mccain_plane_2.jpg

        Are McCain and Romney as lacking in character as Obama?  They did the exact same thing.  Just wondering if your standards apply to all politicians.

        1. 59
          whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Yes they are!

          1. PrettyPanther profile image85
            PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Yet, only Obama has been mentioned. 

            Hmmmmm......

            1. 59
              whoisitposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Ok,  Romney, McCain are as lacking in character as Obama!

              Feel better?

  34. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s2.hubimg.com/u/7741793_f248.jpg

  35. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7741799_f248.jpg

  36. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s1.hubimg.com/u/7743896_f248.jpg

    1. PrettyPanther profile image85
      PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I know that's how you see it, but the majority of the public believes the GOP is more responsible than the Democrats or Obama.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        The GOP aren't the ones screaming this BS. Heard a news report earlier with them screaming this crap and someone actually refuted some of it in the newscast. And it was ABC....not Fox.
        The sky is not falling.

        1. PrettyPanther profile image85
          PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Of course the GOP isn't making a ruckus; they know they're viewed as the perpetrators.  More people believe the GOP is responsible for this artificial crisis.

          1. Drhu profile image59
            Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            No ma'am.
            The GOP is being quiet because Mr.Obama owns this one from start to finish.
            He was even given the power to decide what cuts where and could have used them ANY WHERE AT ALL and REFUSED.
            Therefore he can
            t sit out here and wail and cry foul all he wants. He started it and he is in it up to his neck.

            1. PrettyPanther profile image85
              PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Your "facts" are a bit, um, suspect.  Kind of like your logo/flag on plane tails problem. And taxpayer spending on logos on plane tails. 

              So, you know, I'm inclined to take what you say with a grain of salt.

              1. Drhu profile image59
                Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                So you don't know how this started huh?
                Just has to be the GOP because HE says so?
                Remember he was the one who promised GITMO was going away and so forth.....don't you think you have to take what HE says with a grain of salt?

              2. Drhu profile image59
                Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Here you go Panther:

                Facts about how the sequestration came about and why the White House wanted Woodward to shut up about it:

                http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fac … _blog.html

                1. habee profile image91
                  habeeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I haven't really been keeping up with this, but WaPo's take is enlightening.

                  1. Drhu profile image59
                    Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    It's from Woodward and why they threatened him. It is Fact Checked by the Washington Post..a known liberal paper..the one that took Nixon down. Credibility oozes from the pages. it ain't Fox in other words no matter if Woodward has sat in a chair there from time to time.

                  2. Drhu profile image59
                    Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Jack Lew.....your new Treasury Secretary came up with the sequestration.
                    It came from this administration.....period. it matters not who talked whom into what. That's a leadership issue if so....not an evil GOP issue.

                    If you want to lead you have to learn to actually be responsible and live with some blame.

      2. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        That statement also by the way was made by a reporter who is known for being liberal.
        People aren't playin it anymore.

        1. PrettyPanther profile image85
          PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Eh, so you say.  Your world must be quite limited to believe that.

  37. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s2.hubimg.com/u/7744513_f248.jpg

  38. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7744515_f248.jpg

  39. John Holden profile image60
    John Holdenposted 3 years ago

    Barefootfae, if you haven't actually got anything to say, can you please stop posting cartoons? One or two is fine but a torrent of them is overkill.
    They don't actually allow for any response as most of them are too small to read anyway.

    1. Barefootfae profile image60
      Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Hey.....this is my forum.

      1. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I beg your most gracious pardon Ms Hubpages smile

  40. Drhu profile image59
    Drhuposted 3 years ago

    " crickets"

    1. Josak profile image61
      Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      This shouldn't need to be explained to you. The sequester is a response to the non stop whining from conservatives about spending, as a result a cut to spending growth was enacted, now of course conservatives can't stop whinging about A) the downsides of the cuts (ie. early jail releases to cut costs) B) that it's actually the presidents fault somehow.
      You wanted cuts to spending and you got them, now we will see the results.

      1. Drhu profile image59
        Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Did you read the article?
        No?

    2. PrettyPanther profile image85
      PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      LOL, I have a life outside of these forums.  I often disappear for weeks at a time, so when that happens don't think it's because of your awesome forum debate skills.

      If you paid close attention to what occurred during the negotiations leading up to the sequester deal, you would know that Boehner and Obama were oh-so-close to a "Grand Bargain" but Cantor and Ryan talked Boehner out of it. 

      Republicans wanted spending cuts.  After the constant hand-wringing from Republicans about federal government spending, it's downright hilarious that now that they have the spending cuts they're always whining about they don't want to take credit for them.  Why wouldn't they want to take credit for decreasing federal government spending, since that's practically their entire platform?

  41. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7748247_f248.jpg

  42. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s3.hubimg.com/u/7748934_f248.jpg

    1. Josak profile image61
      Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      man you should do a standup show tell everyone how liberals are doing them mind controls, funniest thing I read all day. One day you will realize how irrelevant you have become.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        One day you will realize how true that cartoon is. i am an old hippy who used to think she was a liberal.
        I know more than some.

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Hippies never were that liberal, more sort of women should be in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.

          And as for that cartoon - just about sums up the right unliberals.
          You do realise that the opposite of liberal is bigoted and blinkered?

    2. Zelkiiro profile image85
      Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Are you sure those are the pillars of the Liberal faith? Because "thought control," "denial of reality," and "hysteria" sound like what Fox News does every day, while "projection of guilt" and "name-calling" are what Bill O'Reilly is big on, along with those other three pillars.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7751827_f248.jpg

        1. Zelkiiro profile image85
          Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          You're pretty bad at math. You should probably go back to school.

          1. Drhu profile image59
            Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Just going by the impression you project by your conversation.

  43. Barefootfae profile image60
    Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

    http://s2.hubimg.com/u/7751477_f248.jpg

    1. Zelkiiro profile image85
      Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Hey guys, what is this "joke" thing people keep making? I don't understand it at all!

  44. Drhu profile image59
    Drhuposted 3 years ago

    http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7751835_f248.jpg

    1. Zelkiiro profile image85
      Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Solution: Quit being an effing lying, racist, homphobic, racist scumbag. Racist.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        This picture posting is fun...I see why fae does it.

        1. Zelkiiro profile image85
          Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Either you forgot which account you're posting on, or you're just being a dirty little goblin.

          1. Josak profile image61
            Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            http://s2.hubimg.com/u/7751897_f248.jpg

            Exquisitely necessary advice.

    2. Hollie Thomas profile image61
      Hollie Thomasposted 3 years ago

      Educate poor white men and downtrodden women. It's shameful the way the right uses the uneducated.

      1. Barefootfae profile image60
        Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        It's even worse how the left treats the uneducated.

        1. Zelkiiro profile image85
          Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          What, you mean by actively fighting to get them a viable means to become educated (e.g. campaigning to raise money to get more scholarships to kids)?

          That sure is unspeakably cruel.

          1. Drhu profile image59
            Drhuposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            No..
            I mean by making certain they stay in a position whereby they "need" the left and will always and I mean always vote for them.
            In other words slavery.

        2. Hollie Thomas profile image61
          Hollie Thomasposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I'm sure you will validate that comment with some spectacular "news" soon. I'll wait for the 'fox' endorsed joke of the week. lol.

    3. Barefootfae profile image60
      Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

      http://s1.hubimg.com/u/7754212_f248.jpg

    4. Barefootfae profile image60
      Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/7754765_f248.jpg

      1. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Right wing indoctrination works really well though.

      2. Josak profile image61
        Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Between 200 000 and 600 000 in Iraq, between one and 4 Million in Vietnam, Over a million in South America, hundreds of thousands in Afghanistan see how quickly that adds up?

        Stalin has been dead for over sixty years.

      3. Marquis profile image60
        Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        That shows that college students are EDUCATED IDIOTS. Also, college students think that religion has killed more people. It is funny, especially debating the atheists at the University of Michigan.

    5. Barefootfae profile image60
      Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/7755573_f248.jpg

      1. Zelkiiro profile image85
        Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Maybe not minimum wage, but they certainly have no business making more than a store manager for how little work they actually do.

    6. Barefootfae profile image60
      Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

      http://s1.hubimg.com/u/7759144_f248.jpg

      1. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Only republicans pay taxes!

        I'm sure if that was true there wouldn't be a single republican left in the US.

      2. Josak profile image61
        Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Liberals who are on average 7% wealthier pay for most of it. Thank you and next question.
        Facts have a liberal bias tongue

        1. Barefootfae profile image60
          Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Yes when liberals fake them they have a liberal bias.

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            What, just like when right wing fascists do?

          2. Josak profile image61
            Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Nope that is actually part of research that found that conservatives give more to charity so it can hardly be accused of a liberal bias.

            You were just wrong, as usual.

    7. Barefootfae profile image60
      Barefootfaeposted 3 years ago

      http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7759171_f248.jpg

      1. Josak profile image61
        Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Yet weirdly liberals are 7% wealthier than conservatives on average.

        Obviously liberals work harder or smarter.

        So the poster is hilariously wrong.

        It should be people who don't work or were too uneducated to make a good wage were outvoted by those who do and can.

     
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