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Nixon and Reagan were more corrupt than you thought

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    Sooner28posted 3 years ago

    http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-r … page=0%2C0

    http://consortiumnews.com/2013/03/07/oc … -and-argo/

    This is written by a journalist who was involved in breaking the Iran Contra story.

    My distrust for politicians and state power increases by the day.

    1. habee profile image90
      habeeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're ALL more corrupt than we'd like to think.

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        Sooner28posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Massively corrupt politicians make me sympathetic to libertarianism.

        1. habee profile image90
          habeeposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          For real! I think some politicians actually seek office for lofty reasons. When they're surrounded by power and opportunity, however, corruption usually follows.

          1. rhamson profile image75
            rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            I agree and the lure is to go along with the flow to get their particular bill passed. Before they know it they are wrapped up in the corruption of the whole affair. After that there is the next term to raise money for and they are caught forever.

  2. innersmiff profile image77
    innersmiffposted 3 years ago

    The next step is to come to the realisation that politics is fundamentally corrupt by nature wink

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      Sooner28posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      There's anarcho-socialism tongue

      1. Stacie L profile image87
        Stacie Lposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        As some as stated, power corrupts. It's human nature to be corrupted?...or did they start out that way and take advantage of the authority granted them?

        1. innersmiff profile image77
          innersmiffposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Perhaps a little of both. Murray Rothbard says that individuals have propensity for good and for evil, and the way society should deal with this is to create an environment that incentives good and de-incentivises the bad. The state, therefore, as an apparatus of absolute power over others, should not exist.

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          Sooner28posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Most sociologists, political scientists, psychologists etc etc etc are with Rothbard.

          Institutional structures are the major determinants of behavior.  Adjust the institutions, while giving people time to acclimate, and the behavior will change also.

          Are you familiar with the Milgram experiments from the 60s?  Or the Stanford Prison experiments from the 70s?  If so, that's a perfect example of what I am saying.  If not, check them out and tell me what you think.

      2. innersmiff profile image77
        innersmiffposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Which is fine by me. The anarcho-capitalist and the anarcho-socialist society could co-exist peacefully, I think.

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          Sooner28posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Theoretically anyway tongue.

 
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