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Eric Holder's style of "justice" isn't justice.

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    Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago

    Unbelievable that America keeps allowing that man to be the leader of our Justice system.
    If it's not Fast and Furious, it's going soft on terrorists, and now we find out that his wife is a part of perpetuating abortion, in particular a corrupt abortionist.     Well, they're all corrupt, since abortion is murder.   But this just seals the deal.   I can't figure out why anyone would trust Holder to mete out any form of justice since he's got his hands in killing babies.

    I hear he made sure that the surviving Boston bomber got mirandaized,  knowing he killed and maimed so many people.    And all along has no guts to stand against killing the unborn either.




    http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_tru … onist.html

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      JaxsonRaineposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      If he ensured the bomber was mirandized, then good for him, that was the right thing to do.

      But yeah, our justice department is a joke. Our justice department is hiding behind the POTUS, hiding from justice. It's pathetic.

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        Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Agreed.
        And I keep wondering who the POTUS is hiding behind.
        I guess I'm still having a hard time believing that Obama alone has so much sway over people that they've let him get by with his carp, especially for a second term.    Does he really have that many Left-wing connections on his own?   Or was he groomed and fitted specifically by a very powerful group of people?...................

      2. American View profile image59
        American Viewposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I disagree, he should not have been mirandized, he should have been held as an enemy combatant, or POW if one wants to call it that..

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          JaxsonRaineposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          The Constitution is very clear. EVERY citizen has the right to due process. Don't you think we should honor constitutional rights?

          1. American View profile image59
            American Viewposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            He requested and received political asylum to remain in the country.TO make a request, one must be of legal age to represent themselves and we all know that is the age of 18. This boy is only 19. So under rules for citizenship, he has to wait 4 years from getting asylum before being eligible to apply for US citizenship. SO how did he get it? Does he really have it?

            Also, if he did obtain citizen as part of the conspiracy for his crime, his citizenship can be revoked.

            In the past, Americans have been held as enemy combatants, the last one was Jose Padilla. .   . .

            Naturalization

            Generally, a legal permanent resident can apply to naturalize, or become a U.S. citizen, five years after obtaining a “green card.” When asylees get their “green card” it is backdated one year, meaning that they can apply to naturalize four years after obtaining residence. Once a foreign national becomes a U.S. citizen, as long as there was no fraud in the naturalization application, he or she cannot be deported.


            http://immigrationequality.org/issues/a … on-asylum/

    2. Uninvited Writer profile image84
      Uninvited Writerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      To get back on topic.

      If he hadn't been mirandicized any conviction could have been thrown out of court. So, some seem to want an American citizen to be thrown in jail without any sort of trial. Seems many conservatives have been screaming about attacks on American citizens.

      This guy will never get out of prison... But I do believe he is eligible for the death penalty because it's under federal jurisdiction other wise Massachusetts does not have the death penalty.

      American View... he had been in the US since he was 8...

      1. HowardBThiname profile image89
        HowardBThinameposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Good post, UW. As an American citizen the youngest bomber deserves the same rights as any other citizen. I was in favor of reading him his rights immediately. Strangely, he's acquired a bit of a Dream Team of defensive lawyers - so he might beat the death penalty - but I agree that he'll spend the rest of his life in prison.

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image69
          Ralph Deedsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          " I was in favor of reading him his rights immediately. "

          Me, too. And giving him life in prison.

    3. Marquis profile image60
      Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      That is what happens when  you put in an American hating Leftist.

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image69
        Ralph Deedsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Spoken by a "leftist" hating American of the Tea Party persuasion.

        1. Marquis profile image60
          Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          That made no sense.

          Patriots do not hate America. People on the Left that favor Godless Socialism and Communism do.

          Every time I see members of the Left, they are always on the wrong side of the argument. Leftists are nothing more than traitors.

          When you put a Commie into public office, the results can be catastrophic.

          1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
            Uninvited Writerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks for this, I can ignore you now smile I bet you would have loved the 50s.

            1. Ralph Deeds profile image69
              Ralph Deedsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              We are wasting our time with this guy.

              1. Marquis profile image60
                Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I waste my time with people like you who LOVE abortion yet hate guns. Abortions kill MILLIONS while gun deaths don't even touch scratch the surface.

                Liberals ARE a waste of time.

            2. Marquis profile image60
              Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I do. Better than the absent-minded and Commies we have running amok now. At least men and women got married and sick perverted things were not cherished with open arms.

              I am still waiting for the 1 million dollar comment too.

              1. Zelkiiro profile image84
                Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                You mean like Segregation/racism, McCarthyism, xenophobia, misogyny, and unregulated corporatism?

                1. Marquis profile image60
                  Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  You said segregation and racism <personal attack removed>. By the way, I am Black, you <personal attack removed>.

                  Every nation has xenophobia. Misogny is not bad because men by nature are suppose to lead and rule. Unregulated corporatism, where did you get that.

                  Like I said, back then was better because <personal attack removed> like YOU were ignored. Families were better, patritots were not ashamed.

                  You need to get lost.

                  1. Zelkiiro profile image84
                    Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll145/Zelkiiro/Forum%20Junk/WAT-2.jpg

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    JaxsonRaineposted 3 years ago

    If I tried to explain why, IMO, things are the way they are, I would be called a racist.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I understand.
      But I myself have no qualms about saying he's treated with kid gloves because he's black!    However, I wonder if that's not just the tip of the iceberg;  in other words,  I think there's someone or some group that's got a radical liberal agenda,  and maybe Obama was chosen to be the spokesperson for that,  being liberal himself, and adding to that the fact that his race would only add to the power that he's perceived as having.

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        JaxsonRaineposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        It's the people, not some hidden group.

        It's inevitable, when a populace becomes more wealthy, they will become more entitled. They take for granted things that their ancestors fought for, and consider them 'rights'. We have developed a very, very wealthy country.

        We have reached a point where the entitlement one one side, and apathy on the other, have overloaded and tipped the balance, to where action is going to be impossible unless a lot of people wake up. Obama won the last election not because of his support, but because of the lack of support for Romney... both conservatives and independents just didn't turn out in the numbers that would have been expected based off the same enthusiasm of 2010. Being involved is tiring, and people are tired. They are struggling with their bills, and they are tired.

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          Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          You could be right.
          I know it's tiring to even keep up with politics these days!  Much less be active in politics.   People should be able to go about their daily life and focus on that and trust their elected Officials to run the Country, States, Towns, etc.  correctly.   But it ain't happening.

        2. Don W profile image83
          Don Wposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Wow, so many dog whistles going off here, I'll be a little disappointed if you don't get hounded.

  3. Reality Bytes profile image93
    Reality Bytesposted 3 years ago

    The "immortal" race is trying to implement their own form of government.  These corporate people have pretty much succeeded.   

    https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIdgQRZnzEdwUiYZLQCsvwMlbTmg1OHLBlPg07Zvvu3UzezhoVkQ

    They have fooled the human race in to funding the whole thing.  smile

    Welcome to the corporate fascist reality!

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      Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I bet you're joking partly?
      But it brings up a question.
      What do you mean by the "immortal"?
      I know I've heard Bill Clinton talk about the possibility of people living longer.   I think he and others have reverted to the pagan idea of a fountain of youth or something............selfishly clinging to the hope of prolonging life for themselves while killing the unborn.
      Funny;  I just watched a movie where man has become "immortal" but with a catch------there is no more money;  it's time that's money; and they have a "clock" imbedded in their forearm that needs refilled with "time";  people in the "rich" zones have hundreds or thousands of years, while the poor zones are full of people who have to find work or a friend who'll share time in order to replenish their clocks;  if they don't, and time runs out, they simply "time out", keel over, die.........

      1. Reality Bytes profile image93
        Reality Bytesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Corporations, these are entities that are immortal, the legal fictions.  They hold the same rights as every other person.  They never die.

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          Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Ah, I see.

  4. Angela Blair profile image87
    Angela Blairposted 3 years ago

    I expect this to turn out like so many other "terrorist" situations in this country. It'll consist of a slap on the wrist, someone saying "bad boy" and the citizens of this country will support this misguided kid the rest of his life with our government saying "well, we sure showed him!" We've become so broadminded our brains may fall out -- if they haven't already. I can't imagine this guy didn't know what his "rights" were to begin with -- if he'd attempted this in Russia he'd be dead. I view this as our government trying to cross all the "t's" and dot all the "i's" -- we must be "legally and politically correct" and the safety of this nation be damned.

  5. Zelkiiro profile image84
    Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago

    Abortion isn't killing babies; it's killing shapeless parasites that lack brains with only a nonfunctional red dot to call a heart.

    It's not until the third month that the brain forms and other functions kick in, and wouldn'cha know it, that's the cut-off date for abortions.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, wouldn't ya know it--------the liberals have succeeded in perpetuating the coverup and legalization of countless murders for over 40 years.   Who cares that it's helpless little babies that can't fight back?!   roll

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      SassySue1963posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      definition of parasite:

      "
      an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment"

      Babies are not "another species".




      doesn't look so "shapeless" to me.


      http://s3.hubimg.com/u/7934898_f248.jpg

      1. Zelkiiro profile image84
        Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        That image is not true--at 3 months, the human zygote hasn't even assumed its animal form yet, let alone tiny human form. It's at the 5 month-ish period that the human zygote resembles a cat zygote, and after that, we shed our tail and grow our thumbs and start working on a brain and a skeleton.

        Before the legal cut-off date, zygotes don't look like much of anything.

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          Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Who cares what it looks like at any age?

          You used to look like that once.
          Everyone did.
          Do you think you were once just a "zygote" and then later developed into a human being?
          Nope.   No matter how inhuman you talk, and how inhumane your view of fetuses is,  you were a human being even when you looked like "not much of anything".

          1. Zelkiiro profile image84
            Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            ...So?

            Is the Pope Catholic?

            Yep.

            You're not a human being until you're born. Before that, you're a fetus, and before that you're a zygote, and before that you're a couple of cells, and before that you're just a sperm cell.

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              SassySue1963posted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Really? Not a human being until you're born? Then why are people being convicted of killing unborn babies when they either killed or injured the mother?

              You see, you're not a human being until you're born only if your mother doesn't want you.

              1. HowardBThiname profile image89
                HowardBThinameposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I think he probably means the legal definition of "person." It is interesting that charges can be brought against someone who injures a fetus intentionally - if it is against the mother's wishes. But, if the mother desires it - no charges are forthcoming.

                That said - I am mostly (not all) pro-choice. I think it is the soul or essence of the human spirit, embodied in flesh that makes a person - a person. Just my belief - but I don't think that happens until birth or soon before or after.

                I'm not a religious person, but if I were - I would think that if God wanted an entity on this earth - he or she would be here. I would think that God's will would supersede human will. Can it be murder if the soul of an aborted fetus enters another fetus and is then born?

                I noticed something else interesting. Miscarriages. When a woman miscarries early in her term, the fetus often gets flushed. That sounds gross, but I can't help but think that if those who think the fetus is already a person - REALLY believed that, they'd fish the little lump out of the potty and have a formal burial. They don't. They flush.

                This post isn't mean to upset anyone - it's just some things I've pondered over the years.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I've actually heard of people who did have funerals for their babies that were miscarried.   Maybe not pulled out of the toilet like you said, and maybe (I can't remember...) not even having the remains in a casket, etc., but a memorial service in memory and honor of the life of the child no matter how brief.

                  1. Josak profile image61
                    Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Occasionally and I think pretty rarely.

                  2. HowardBThiname profile image89
                    HowardBThinameposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    I'm sure there are a few - but I think it's the exception - not the rule.

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          SassySue1963posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          You live in deep denial my friend.

          here, a source not about abortion at all, just development. That picture is indeed true and accurate.

          http://www.babycenter.com/fetal-develop … ek-by-week

        3. Ralph Deeds profile image69
          Ralph Deedsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          http://s3.hubimg.com/u/7956150_f248.jpg

          Zygote

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            Education Answerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Bald eagles don't look like eagles in the embryonic stage.  If you destroy a bald eagle egg, you'll likely go to prison and pay a hefty fine.  If you destroy a human in its embryonic state, it's your right.  Go figure.  Bald eagles receive more protection than people?

            http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html

            1. Josak profile image61
              Josakposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Because it's not your eagle.

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                Education Answerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                So, by that logic, I can kill my little boy who is 7 years old, and it's okay.  Logic?

            2. Zelkiiro profile image84
              Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Funny. I wasn't aware human beings were an endangered species that aren't in a state of hilarious overpopulation.

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                Education Answerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                So, if people were endangered, we wouldn't be able to have abortions?  Interesting.  I've never heard that argument before.  I think I get it now.  Some geneticists believe that the worldwide population of red headed people is rapidly diminishing.  Consequently, red heads are not allowed to have abortions.  Got it.

            3. Marquis profile image60
              Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Well thank the Leftist animal freaks for that one. They hate people but LOVE animals.

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                Education Answerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Yeah, they often want gun control but not illegal alien control.  Illegal aliens kill 6-12 Americans each day, but you won't find many liberals screaming for some kind of change to protect the victims.  It's selective compassion.  They tell conservatives that we have no compassion for the poor, and then they advocate abortion rights, leaving few rights for the unborn.  It's selective compassion, political compassion.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  "selective compassion",  "political compassion".......
                  very well put.
                  I hadn't thought of defining it quite like that,  but you're sooooo right!    And it adds to the discussion about compassion (or lack thereof) in JThomp's thread too.

                2. Quilligrapher profile image89
                  Quilligrapherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Hello again, EA.

                  The claim about immigrants killing 6-12 Americans each day was spread by Fox News and debunked years ago as false and meaningless. It is intellectually and rationally bankrupt with absolutely no relation to any real facts. 

                  Journalist Mac Johnson contrived the numbers you quoted in a 2005 article in which he wrote that he was unable to find statistics on “illegal alien murders.” After admitting "the murder rate among illegal aliens in America is unknown,” he constructed a series of bizarre assumptions to reach the utterly false conclusion you recklessly misrepresented as a fact in your post.

                  The truth is “that statistic is derived from completely baseless assumptions about immigrants' crime rates. Actual studies have found that immigrants in general are less likely to be incarcerated and that there is no evidence that undocumented immigrants commit a disproportionate amount of crime.” {1}

                  The Center for Immigration Studies published in its November 2009 report, “Given the limitations of the data available, it is simply not possible to draw a clear conclusion about immigrants and crime.”

                  In the end, EA, your views about “selective compassion” seem to be built on a false premise.  But, thank you for contributing.
                  http://s2.hubimg.com/u/6919429.jpg
                  {1} http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/0 … ate/164326

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                    Education Answerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    If you go back in the forum, you'll find that I didn't quote Fox News.  I had two other sources.  I provided data while some made bold claims that illegal immigration leads to a net savings of life, regardless of how many Americans are killed.  That unsubstantiated claim had absolutely no data.

                    Wikipedia:

                    Fiscal year 2011 saw 396,906 deportations, the largest number in the history of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement; of those, 216,698 had been convicted of crimes, including:

                    44,653 convicted of "drug-related crimes"
                    35,927 convicted of driving under the influence
                    5,848 convicted of sexual offenses
                    1,119 convicted of homicide

                    1,119/365 days = 3 a day that were actually caught and deported - Others were not caught or deported. Additional deaths result from drug-related crimes and driving under the influence.  I said 6-12 Americans are killed each day.  3 are homicides, and the rest might just come from other crimes committed by illegal aliens.  That's not Fox News, and it's statistically accurate. 

                    I'm guessing that the fact that the statistic might be as low as 3 dead Americans each day doesn't make their families feel any better.  It's time for illegal alien control.

                  2. Ralph Deeds profile image69
                    Ralph Deedsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Thanks, Quill. Nothing like the facts! The political forum is infested with misinformation.

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            SassySue1963posted 3 years ago in reply to this

            To be precise, zygote is the term used to refer to the cell as a result of the fusion of two haploid nuclei during fertilization until the first cleavage. When the zygote starts to divide and multiply, it is called an embryo.


            http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Zygote

        4. Marquis profile image60
          Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Abortion: One Way to Decimate the Human Population
          Staring Liberals, Democrats, Communists, Socialists, Prostitutes
          Target Audience: Inner City, children (3-9 yrs)

          Obamacare: How to Successfully Kill of the Elderly Through Trickery and Lies

          Staring: Obama, the Democrats and the fiends of the unrighteous Left

      2. Uninvited Writer profile image84
        Uninvited Writerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Most of us are not stupid enough to believe that picture is real.

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          SassySue1963posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          No most of you are just in denial.

          How about this one?



          http://s2.hubimg.com/u/7961757_f248.jpg

          Does that look shapeless to you? Or is that fake as well?

          Oh comes from here:

          http://www.webmd.com/baby/ss/slideshow- … evelopment

          Just so you know, it was in response to this statement:
          "Abortion isn't killing babies; it's killing shapeless parasites that lack brains with only a nonfunctional red dot to call a heart."

          Which I've proven inaccurate, to put it in nice terms.

    3. Marquis profile image60
      Marquisposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Are you joking or you like saying foolish things?

  6. Marquis profile image60
    Marquisposted 3 years ago

    I will be so glad when the Commies are ALL out of office. Holder is a typical Left Wing anti American commie.

  7. DrDoolittle1960 profile image60
    DrDoolittle1960posted 3 years ago

    Marquis, I am a liberal but not a Communist. I believe in freedom of choice but am personally against abortion. I simply do not feel that I have the right to decide what others do with their bodies. I am a man but do not think that woman are the weaker species or that men are somehow genetically superior to them. I am a gun owner who is in favor of gun control. I find the idea of people being anti-abortion but pro capital punishment to be sadly amusing. They are not against killing humans, they simply want to be able to decide at which age they should do it. I am appalled by what the bombers did at Boston but just as appalled by those who do not want to mirandize the bomber. People in this country are entitled to protection under the law no matter how egregious their crime. The concentration camp at Quantanamo should be bulldozed and the inmates there should be given a fair trial or released. We are not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia to lock people away and deny them due process. Obama was fairly elected unlike his predecessor and as such is entitled to make his own mistakes. He has yet to involve us in two concurrent wars that do nothing but cost American lives, money and world standing. I find everything you say to be offensive, poorly thought out and to be knee jerk drivel but I recognize your right to say it. And before you have the nerve to question my patriotism I am an Army veteran. Are you?

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      Lie Detectorposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I find it amusing that you would use abortion in an analogy with the death penalty. One is an innocent life and one has in most cases taken an innocent life but somehow you have made them equal. What is even more strange is that some on death row have taken a life before it ever left the womb.

    2. Ralph Deeds profile image69
      Ralph Deedsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I'm with you, pal. Well put.

    3. Mighty Mom profile image90
      Mighty Momposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Very well stated, Don W.
      Thank you.

  8. DrDoolittle1960 profile image60
    DrDoolittle1960posted 3 years ago

    Not surprising that you missed the point lie defective. Killing is killing. Since I am sure you probably have the 10 commandments tattooed on your chest, I am sure you know that one says, thou shalt not kill.

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      Lie Detectorposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I would engage in the same style of debate but I will show you the respect that I show everyone. Sir, you never made a point other than showing a complete bias. By the way your service to our country is appreciated but that alone does not make one a patriot!

  9. DrDoolittle1960 profile image60
    DrDoolittle1960posted 3 years ago

    My apologies for being harsh. I anticipated rancor before it was expressed. I am not meaning to make a judgment as to the innate morality or lack of morality of the individuals being killed. I was simply stating that under the Judeo-Christian ethic that most of us espouse killing of any sort is wrong.

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      Lie Detectorposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Apology accepted.

  10. Dr Billy Kidd profile image91
    Dr Billy Kiddposted 3 years ago

    As always, thanks for the information, Ralph.

    When I'm in Southern California, I'm around legal and undocumented immigrants. It's about 1 out of every 10 people. I do not see crime as acceptable conduct, according to their norms. Work is all I hear them ask for--never spare change.

    There are some people, however, working with the drug cartels, who do murder people, mostly others in the drug business. Yet in Central L.A. there was a Mexican Mafia organization taking protection money from the street vendors. But what major city has not had to deal with that?

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      retief2000posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      And there is the crime - holding a w-2, hourly, legal job requires verifiable identification.  If one has a job from which taxes are with held but are here illegally they are violating a few laws.  Identity falsification, identity theft, illegal residency are all crimes.  Violent and drug related crimes are not the only crimes.  What are the statistics regarding drunk driving, hit and run accidents, auto accident fatalities committed by illegals?  Though the punishment is not imprisonment but deportation, overstaying a visa or sneaking across the border are still violations of the law.
      The following are statistics derived from various sources - news reports, local law enforcement, FBI, DHS and Border Patrol numbers.

          83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
          86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
          75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles , Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
          24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals.
          40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals.
          48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals.
          29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our State and Federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually.
          53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
          50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
          71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or "transport coyotes".
          47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.
          63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens
          66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66%, 98% are illegal aliens.
         
      Given the tiny numbers of actual illegals compared to the total population, illegals are very hard working in order to account for these FBI stats.

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        Education Answerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        +1

        Thank you.  I am all for legal immigration.  I am tired of illegal immigration.  I live in Arizona, and we are paying a BIG price for our current disinterest in border security.  How many people have to die before our country starts protecting us from illegal aliens?

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          retief2000posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          I love immigrants.  One of the best women I know is from Romania.  My family has been in this country for 100 years.  Immigrants have a place in America.  Cheating, sneaking, lying, line jumping illegals have no place in America.  It is racist to excuse Hispanic illegal immigration at the expense of legal Asian and African immigration.  There are thousands of people from all around the world trying to get here legally.  They should just save their money, fly into Mexico, sneak across the border, steal someone's identity and get a job illegally.  It works for Hispanics why shouldn't it work for Afghans, Indians, Chinese, Laotians, Vietnamese, Filipinos, Indonesians, Nigerians, Maldivians, Zimbabweans,Kenyans, Bulgarians, Ukrainians, Poles, Slovaks, Fijians, Tongans, etc.... , except they don't have a whole political party trying to pander for the votes of their "fellows in language."

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            Education Answerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Wow, you made a good point.

      2. Quilligrapher profile image89
        Quilligrapherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Dear retief2000,

        Sadly, I am unable to connect one of your statistical claims to news reports, local law enforcement, FBI, DHS and Border Patrol numbers.

        I did, however, find hundreds of identical versions cut and pasted on the internet. Just like your own version, none includes a link to any source.

        Oddly, there are many, although not yours, prefaced by the impotent introduction “2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants.” These a clearly phoney since the INS ceased to exist in March 2003 when most of its functions were transferred from the Department of Justice to three new entities within the Department of Homeland Security.

        I am hopful you can provide a link to news reports, local law enforcement, FBI, DHS and Border Patrol numbers that confirm the accuracy of your particular set of claims. No one else on the internet seems to able to do so.
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  11. Ralph Deeds profile image69
    Ralph Deedsposted 3 years ago

    Kentucky redneck morons buy guns for kindergartners:

    "The next day Kristian, 5, shot and killed his 2-year-old sister with a gun marketed for children as “My First Rifle” in what the authorities said was an accident. "

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/06/us/ke … p&_r=0

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      Lie Detectorposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Cha ching!

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      SassySue1963posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      "redneck morons" I'm sorry...isn't that a derogatory remark and racist as well? Let's check on that shall we?

      Redneck is a derogatory slang term used in reference to poor, uneducated white farmers (definition from Wikipedia)

      Perhaps you should read the entire story and not just the "shocking headline" the media puts out there huh?
      How almost all the adults had these same rifles at age 5 (omg! they didn't shoot anyone and made it to adulthood! shocking!)
      How the majority of the 5 yr olds there have this same rifle (omg! they are all still alive and haven't shot anyone!)
      And that the issue was not the rifle but the fact that the parents left it unlocked, accessible and loaded. The other parents in the small town who agreed to be interviewed said they keep it unloaded and locked up and the child never has access unless they are with them.

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image69
        Ralph Deedsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        If the shoe fits, wear it, Sassy.

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          SassySue1963posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Ah I see. So because they are from a small town in Kentucky they are "redneck morons" and "uneducated".

          I do wonder why you choose that particular story to try to advocate gun control and not the following:

          http://www.webpronews.com/6-month-old-s … ng-2013-03

          Or is it because that doesn't promote your agenda?

          Because, you know, it is the home of some of the strictest gun regulations in the country.

          http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/us/st … l&_r=0

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            MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            I assume they are redneck morons and uneducated because they bought a FIVE YEAR OLD a gun.  The fact that everyone else in the town has as well just means there are a bunch of other redneck morons in the area.

            Jesus, I supervise my daughter when she has scissors.  A bloody gun for a five year old? That takes a special kind of idiot. I would LOVE to see both of those parents charged with murder.

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              SassySue1963posted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Hey I would never buy a five year old a gun on a personal level. However, hunting is a way of life in that particular area. This is not a "new fad" that is going through the area. It is something that has been going on for generations. I'd bet you the gun deaths there per capita are far less than any city, yet, I'd bet you the gun ownership per capita is higher. Why? Because they don't treat guns like they are some evil possessed thing. They are taught from a very young age to treat them with respect. These parents did not do so and did not act responsibly. They said they didn't know the gun was loaded. Not good enough.
              However, I'm certain there are plenty of things that these people could say about city people and call them morons. Who are you to pass judgement on an entire town and a way of life?

              1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
                MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Didn't the article say that in that town alone another 6 year old boy killed another kid... and that still another kid was shot at a picnic?  Both recently?

                I am surrounded by redneck morons.  I know them quite well.  They shouldn't own a Swiss Army Knife, let alone a gun.  In general if a requirement for a sixth grade education and an IQ of over 80 was required for gun ownership, they have to chase the deer down with a sharpened stick.

                And they'd likely lose a finger sharpening the stick... But hell, they'd still have 3 left to hold their beer.

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                  SassySue1963posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  No that wasn't in that town. Not even in that state. It's very bigoted of you and Ralph to use a term such as "redneck" to describe someone, and decide they are uneducated (people you do not even know). It is just more of the left double standard. They are allowed to make derogatory and racist statements about any group of people with whom they disagree but throw the term "racist" around about anyone who disagrees with the President's policies.
                  Which was all I was bringing to light. Thank you for your assistance.

                  1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
                    MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Redneck isn't a race. It's a choice. 

                    Your comments say a lot about you as well.  You want to stand up for people who let their kids shoot each other because it's their way of life, have at it.

                    And I'm a moderate, but good try.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      So, Ralph,
      read my post above this one.
      Or not.
      But in any case, you're behaving like a real jerk when you intentionally re-write the title to that story,   especially since I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt as to your ability to realize that ALL people in ANY State may be ignorant about one thing or another;  it's not just Kentucky that could be the subject of insult if people want to insult someone.   I'm also giving you the benefit of the doubt about your ability to understand what you read,  and if you read the article you'd know that what I've said is true.   
      Personally, I don't care what you or anyone thinks.  I don't care who you call a redneck if you're meaning it as a poor white hard-working Southerner, because that's nothing to be ashamed of.   I don't mind being called a redneck;  I'm proud to be one.  And I don't mind being called a Kentuckian;  I'm proud to have been born there.   But it truly tees me off when someone puts the words "Kentucky redneck morons" together just so they can cut down Kentuckians.   You should watch how you phrase things, unless of course you think New Jersey and other States actually ARE Kentucky........in which case, you need to find a map somewhere and try to cipher that out for yerself.    I would help ya,  but oh my...where oh where would I find a map on the internet.......?  roll

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