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Syrian dead children identified!

  1. maxoxam41 profile image77
    maxoxam41posted 3 years ago

    According to my source of information, those children were the ones who were kidnapped by djihadists. Experts are stating that they didn't die from sarin attacks since the symptoms don't correspond. In one word, we armed those dogs that killed those innocent angels. And God bless America right? God's highest representative is opposing us, isn't he?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Confusing.
      Why would Syria's President then  admit to using the chemicals?

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
        Uninvited Writerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Great point Brenda! And we don't often agree on anything smile

        1. maxoxam41 profile image77
          maxoxam41posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          And what a point! Fox said so?

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          mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          What I would like to hear from Assad's supporters and apologists is NOT what is wrong with the US and its allies, but what is "right" with Assad? What is so "right" about how he governs?

          Some facts about Assad's Syria:

          According to Amnesty International: "Pro-reform demonstrations in Syria developed into mass protests in the spring of 2011 after security forces used grossly excessive force against people calling for the release of children who had been detained. More than 10,000 people reportedly died during or in connection with the protests and during funerals of demonstrators. Most of those killed were apparently shot by members of the security forces, including snipers. Tanks were used in military operations in civilian residential areas."

          According to Human Rights Watch: "Available evidence strongly suggests that Syrian government forces were responsible for chemical weapons attacks on two Damascus suburbs on August 21, 2013. These attacks, which killed hundreds of civilians including many children, appeared to use a weapons-grade nerve agent, most likely Sarin."

          And Human Rights Watch also reports that teachers and "state security agents interrogated and beat students for alleged anti-government activity, and how security forces and shabiha, pro-government militias, assaulted peaceful student demonstrations. In several instances reported to Human Rights Watch, government forces fired on school buildings that were not being used for military purposes."

          I am sure that Amnesty International and Human Rights will simply be discarded by the supporters and apologists are pawns of the US, but as a matter of principle, the factual information that they offer deserves publication.

          1. Ranzi profile image83
            Ranziposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Bashar Al-Assad has be demonized by the US government and most media, he is a victim in a big conspiracy and it is quite disturbing to watch. Why? because the US has been doing this for years, playing chess with the world and putting and replacing governments as they wish.

            When the Syrian protest began in March 2011, some Army officers did act independently and shoot against protesters. What the media failed to emphasize was that President Assad fired all those responsible. He then went out to the public, universities, schools, hospitals asking the people what they wanted. All their demands were met. What type of ruthless tyrant would do that? The muslim brotherhood has been trying to rise to power in Syria since the 80s, and the secular Syrian government had no tolerance for any type of extreme religion. Instead the Muslim brotherhood (it is suspected that obama is one of them, but im not too sure) the same muslim brotherhood who have been trying to overtake the government in Egypt used the protests in Syria as a perfect opportunity to hijack it and turned a protest into a civil war. The media was helping them and reporting false events, such as the army was murdering and killing people. A-jazeera was caught out for using fake actors and footage. So this thing which was meant to be a revolution turned into bloodshed, war and massacres. Pretty soon the Syrian people realised what was going on, that they were being invaded by foreign jihadists and extremists from places like Qatar, Saudi, yemen, turkey and the people of Syria began to unite and after they saw that their president was been victimised by the west, they also saw him go out into the streets and started to meet their demands of reform, they united and began to support him.

            What is so right about how he governs? I'm not going to say he was perfect, which government is? But he was so much better than his father and not ruthless. He was even opposed to his fathers advisers who tried to influence him to rule as his father did, but he was having non of that.
            He was educated in London as a doctor and was quite westernised in his ways.

            He moderniosed Syria and opened it up to the world
            He released many political prisoners
            His government had no tolerance for extreme religious parties
            withdrew troops from lebanon
            minority and religious tolerance in a secular society
            elected parliament and more democratic reforms coming (after protests)
            education free for everyone
            health care is free and for everyone
            He protects christians
            a growing economy

            IN COMPARISON TO OTHER ISLAMIC COUNTRIES
            Men and women are free to socialise freely
            Women have equal rights under constitution
            Women have equal pay under constitution
            Women will not get stoned for having pre marital sex
            Women can drive
            Women will not get stoned for wearing makeup and not covering up
            People will not get arrested for drinking alcohol
            People will not get killed for being atheists

            WHY I RESPECT HIM
            In 2003 US Secretary of State Collin Powell visited Bashar and handed him a list of demands including:

            1. Cutting all ties with the five main Palestinian factions in Syria,

            2. Severing Syria’s relations with Iran in exchange for a promise of better relations with some Arab states.

            3. Signing a peace treaty with Israel similar to one Syria had already refused.

            4. Removing books from schools with any enmity towards Israel.

            5. Allowing western banks and companies unhindered access to Syrian markets and resources along with other neo-liberal reforms.

            Bashar refused these demands in the face of the nearly 200,000 coalition troops across the Syrian border in Iraq. Instead Bashar sought to hinder the occupation of Iraq and demanded that the occupying forces withdraw.

            I respect him because he is the only president in the middle east that stands up to the US. He stands on principle and can't be bought for a price. He has more integrity than most politicians of thr ME and  he will not bow down to the bullies US and will not let Syria be overtaken by extreme Islamic who the US is trying to put in place of him. HE could have easily being bought by Saudi Arabia, he could have easily escaped to Russia and taken the money he was offered, instead he is fighting for his people. He is actually still in power because his people support him.

            You can watch him in an interview that the western media will never show us - you might be able to notice that unlike most dictators he does not bang his fist on the table, raise his voice and assert his presence to the person speaking to him
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p … VRyA#t=277

            1. maxoxam41 profile image77
              maxoxam41posted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I admire him for the same reasons. Did you know that he envisions to build railways that will connect the whole middle east? He's aiming at prosperity and economical development like what is happening in southern America. A great man!

              1. Ranzi profile image83
                Ranziposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                No I didn't know. That's amazing.  He is the most eloquent and honest presidents I have ever watched in speeches and interviews. Studies show that many people that rise to power or have a hunger for power in politics are sociopaths or power trippers. The thing is Bashar's dream was never  to rise to power or even be in politics. He studied to be a doctor instead. People who knew him always said he was very humble and good natured.   He was put in power after his older brother died and basically was always transparent from the beginning with the Syrian people. Most people who know him say that he is a very humble and down to earth man, who is not like most of the other ego driven powertrippers out there. People can call me crazy for admiring a man who they believe is a tyrant because America tells them so, because the media tells them so. This man is no Hitler or even Sudam or Gadafi. Most of the Syrian people love him. Why do you think so many of his people re elected him again? He has more support and love than Obama.  Bashar's only down fall is that he stood up to America, stood up to extremist muslim terrorists, also he supported the people of Gazza against their mistreatment from Israel. Haven't people had enough of being lied to?

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            ContentStarposted 3 years ago in reply to this

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            1. maxoxam41 profile image77
              maxoxam41posted 3 years ago in reply to this

              What could be right with Assad? Simply that he is supported by 90% of the Syrian which president ever scored such a percentage?

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                mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Do you really believe that such polling data is not fabricated?

                And if you do, and if Assad's Syria is such an idyllic, democratic, and progressive place, then why don't you move there?

      2. HowardBThiname profile image89
        HowardBThinameposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Assad admitted to using the chemical weapons???

        .....link please.....

        1. handymanbill profile image63
          handymanbillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          link please where he says that he used Chemical Weapons??

          1. HowardBThiname profile image89
            HowardBThinameposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Yes.

      3. maxoxam41 profile image77
        maxoxam41posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Did he? What about thinking for once? Why would a president that has his people's confidence would make such a glaring mistake?

        1. HowardBThiname profile image89
          HowardBThinameposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Assad did not admit to using chemical weapons. A couple of women on this thread are sadly mistaken.

      4. Ranzi profile image83
        Ranziposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        He did not admit to no such thing. He has said over again that US are the ones arming terrorist groups who are trying to take over the country and create an islamic state with sharia law. 70% of his people support him, why would he use it on them at such a critical state when the worlds eyes are on him and see him as the devil (which he is not)

        This is his full interview http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/116019#post2462571 http://izvestia.ru/news/556048

        http://friendsofsyria.co/enemies-of-syr … errorists/ showing how many people support president Assad and how the media has been lying

        PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW - WE ARE BEEN LIED TO BY THE US GOVERNMENT AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA. BEFORE SYRIA IS OVERTAKEN BY TERRORISTS AND WORLD WAR III HAPPENS AND MORE TERRORIST ATTACKS HAPPEN ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS BECAUSE OF US ACTIONS

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        mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Exactly! In an effort to maintain his power, Mr Assad has acknowledged that his regime has and has used chemical weapons.

        I am never going to understand this sympathy for Assad. Never.

        I was reading an article in "Foreign Policy" magazine this morning. It's editors are baffled by the willingness of some to embrace Assad and to refuse to accept his complicity in the murders of his people.

        Then again, there were and are apologists for Hitler, for Nazism, for the Holocaust.

        1. HowardBThiname profile image89
          HowardBThinameposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Sympathy for Assad? 

          I have no sympathy for Assad. But, I believe in being honest - and Mr Assad has NOT admitted to using chemical weapons. He has only admitted to having some.

          Assad is no hero - but those fighting against him are linked to the attacks on the US World Trade Center, which killed nearly 3,000 Americans. There is no good reason why the US would support the very terrorists who attacked us.

          Obama's policy in the Middle East has been one of destabilization and his actions in Libya and Syria have caused terrorism in those areas to grow.

          At some point, Americans are going to have to wake up and acknowledge that the President - the man once honored with a Nobel Peace Prize - is a warmonger. And he's not taking the US' best interest to heart. He's arming terrorists.

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            mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            While I do not think that President Obama is a "warmonger", I do believe that the policies of his administration have, as you note, destabilized the region and in that destabilization has exacerbated the terrorist problem not only in the region, but globally.

            I suspect, that the Obama Administration, like the Putin Administration, is playing the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" logic of international relations. The question is, and only time will tell us the answer, does that logic work in at this moment and at this place?

            I suspect a better approach might be  a comprehensive solution; a solution that deals with the economic and social issues of the region AND the political issues of the region AND the international issues of the region AND the history and future of the region.

            My concern is that in the current milieu of domestic and international politics there are few actors capable of such comprehensive solution-finding and decision-making.

            Putin is trying to behave like he is this person, but again, only time will tell if he is substantively this person.

            1. maxoxam41 profile image77
              maxoxam41posted 3 years ago in reply to this

              He's not a warmonger? You are blind what do you call the invasions and attacks of Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Somalia, Lebanon, Syria...?
              You are totally oblivious of the reality and you want to argue your case? Who can credit you?
              Putin is the man, thanks to us, since he is backed by the international community and the pope. He couldn't do better and, we couldn't do worst. Thanks again to the monkeys of our government.

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                mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Never mind. This conversation is over.

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                  maxoxam41posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Did you really think that we conversed?

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          maxoxam41posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          You don't know what you are talking about. I read one article from this magazine and I quickly understood where it was heading to, certainly not the truth! BLA,BLA,BLA... Foreign Magazine said so therefore it is, Obama said so therefore it is! Isn't it the same logic? Which paper can brag its independence in this biased country?
          Why does ignorantness always have to refer to the jewish history as a point of reference when it comes to the worst event of history? It only shows one thing is that your history is limited.

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            mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Whatever...

            1. maxoxam41 profile image77
              maxoxam41posted 3 years ago in reply to this

              No it is not whatever, it is too easy! Then don't come on this forum as a conqueror of the truth! Because when with reasoning and logic are absent from your thinking then, you are on your knees!

              1. Ranzi profile image83
                Ranziposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Can't agree more. Supporters of terrorism need to be told

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          handymanbillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Link where he says or admits to using chemical weapons.

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        mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        One thing that I find entirely disgusting---sometimes so much so that I am unable to speak about it:

        As the Brookings Institute reports: "In a bleak irony, today – International Women’s Day – is also a public holiday in Syria, commemorating the 1963 coup that brought the Baathist party to power and saw Hafez al-Assad take over as commander of the Syrian air force. Assad eventually became president of Syria and, for all his sins, was a proponent of equal rights for women. Under the rule of his son, Bashar al-Assad, however, Syria has become a living hell for its women, particularly for the millions who have had to flee their homes since the country’s crisis [rape] began two years ago."

        1. Ranzi profile image83
          Ranziposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          You just love to spread lies don't you. You speak no sense. How dare you spread such lies?I have lived in both Lebanon and Syria. For your information since Bashar took over from his father he modernised Syria and brought many advancements to it's people. Do you know that Syria is amongst a few countries in the middle east that women have freedom. Go try living in Saudi, where women cant even drive. Go live in Saudi where women get stoned for having a boyfriend. Go live in Saudi where people get arrested and beaten up for having alcohol. This is who the US is helping the Saudis, in order to turn Syria into a sharia law abiding country. People like you should be ashamed of covering up for your government, while they help the syrian terrorists kills young children. What do you have to say for them that they are helping Al-Qaida? you seem to ignore that aspect. But all you care about is comparing women's rights to the gassing of young children

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            mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            So your contention is, then, that  there is no rape crisis in Syria? The women reporting this are liars working for some nefarious government and its allies?

            1. HowardBThiname profile image89
              HowardBThinameposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Sure, there is a rape crisis - it's being headed up by the rebels.

              Assad offered a measure of protection for the Christian villages in Syria, but now the rebels have taken over some of those villages, raped, kidnapped and even beheaded some of the Christians. Obama is making that easier for the rebels by arming them.

              The stronger the rebels are - the harder it will be for Assad to protect those Christian communities.

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                mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Women (as well as men and children) are reporting being raped by both sides. Unfortunately, rape is a tactic, a strategy of war---particularly of civil war. And, it has a long and ugly history.

                And to be honest, it is at moments like this---when I read the horrific reports of rape of innocent men, women, and children that I wish that I could believe that there was a God so that he could punish the perpetrators---government agents and soldier and rebels alike, for their sins against humanity.

                1. HowardBThiname profile image89
                  HowardBThinameposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I'm with ya on that, mbuggieh.  It sickens me, and although like you say - it's a tactic of war - the perpetrators are the lowest of the low.

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                    mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Agreed.

                    This reminds me of the 50,000 reported rapes of German women and children (and some men) in Berlin after the Allies' "liberated" the city.

                  2. maxoxam41 profile image77
                    maxoxam41posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    Both sides? Where is the logic or are you repeating what you heard on fox like the one year old who is trying to learn? When does the thinking process appear at a moment or another? Or the softness of your couch prevails on your ability to do so?

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                maxoxam41posted 3 years ago in reply to this

                It is so nice of you to have a thought for the Christians! Who cares which confession they are. They are HUMAN.
                In what way what we watch on tv, which game we play on your playstation impact us? This is the perfect example of desensitization through media propaganda and violence culture. In what way shows like Homeland or Zero dark thirty can be an inspiration for humanity? It is propagandist and bellicose. The most dangerous of us are definitely the ones that hide behind the fake solemnity of our presidents.

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        Reality Bytesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, please link!!!!

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      mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Identify your "sources".

      1. HowardBThiname profile image89
        HowardBThinameposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        This is what's going on, mbuggieh.

        This is what the rebels are doing with the increased firepower given them through arms and money from Western nations.

        http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli … e-n1691989

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      mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      And exactly who is "god's highest representative"?

    4. maxoxam41 profile image77
      maxoxam41posted 3 years ago

      I couldn't watch the videos showing those kids when they showed them but I just did because Mr Meyssan's article led me to it. It is nauseating. He was stating the incoherence of our government's criminals. Our government knew that they would kill those children and they let it happen. AGAIN, what kind of people are we to use innocents, to inject them poison for the international idiots that we are to believe that Assad is a criminal? How many more deaths do we need? Children are not enough? Where are the women of my country? Are they desensitized as much as men? Why aren't you OUTRAGED? I am horrified of our level of degradation.

      1. Ranzi profile image83
        Ranziposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        It is nauseating that our world is being run by sick psychopaths who are legally feeding their sickness through the death and destruction of the world.

        I don't usually go on forums, however it's everyone responsibility to wake up the sheep of this world from the lies we are being told. I was one of them, and feel quite disturbed that this is really happening. That the US is actually helping the same guys who took down the twin towers and the same guys they are supposedly fighting in Afghanistan

     
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