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Would passive resistance be effective today as it was in the past?

  1. J - R - Fr13m9n profile image85
    J - R - Fr13m9nposted 3 years ago

    Mahatma Gandhi led a passive resistance movement to free India from British rule. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. followed the teachings of Gandhi and employed passive resistance in the struggle for equal rights for African Americans and the poor.

    1. J - R - Fr13m9n profile image85
      J - R - Fr13m9nposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      I thank everyone for participating in this stimulating discussion. Passive resistance is an interesting subject to debate. I would like to add that our economy is global and is being run by large corporations whose goal is to make huge profits and to seek funding from the taxpayers when their companies start to fail. Michael Savage, a one time radio personality for conservative talk radio would state that he believed in language and borders. Language, in his words, was English and by borders he meant that the border between Mexico and the United States should be guarded more heavily than what is being done now and during the G.W. Bush administration. Globalism does not see it that way. Lobbyists buy politicians. We are left with higher taxes, home foreclosures, high interest rates on student loans, jobs that do not meet the minimum wage, expensive health coverage, and many out of work and in need of social services which are on the decline. Yet there are those who are placed on watchlists because they speak out against such injustices. Some of you may know Dr. Gary Null, who was approached by a large man last summer. This man warned Dr. Null that spies are being placed wherever Dr. Null works. Their goal was to discredit Dr. Null and if possible, kill him. A few months back I read a Wikipedia article about Dr. Null. The article was in a condescending tone and not a word was written about the accomplishments that Dr. Null has done. More can be said but I will save that until next time. Again thank you for your participation.

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      retief2000posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      The passive resistance of Gandhi and King worked because the populations, and even some who opposed them, were civilized people or had to answer civilized people.  The protesters in Tienanmen Square weren't so fortunate.

    3. rhamson profile image77
      rhamsonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Passive resistance relies on numbers to have any affect on the issues it address's. Unfortunately this country has been hornswoggled into an "us and them" finger pointing scenario led by an ever increasing complicit press. We don't get the news until "they" say it is news and they will interpret it for us to digest. Subsequently the politicians continue making their opinion fact and proffer statements to keep us divided. Until the sheeple catch on to this dynamic, the status quo continues to rule us.

  2. Zelkiiro profile image84
    Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago

    That's pretty much exactly what Occupy Wall Street was--passive resistance in protest of Wall Street bankers being too powerful to arrest. Then the TV news stations got paid off to proclaim that they were violence-fueled barbarians and that they were being mean to the nice rich bankers who would never do anything wrong.

    1. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      You do have a paper trail following the money and instructions as to what to say from the bankers to the news stations?

      Or just making claims based on opinion and what you want to believe, much like the theists do?

      1. Zelkiiro profile image84
        Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Merely conjecture based on what corrupt organizations have always done. I mean, the only other option is that the TV news stations defended the banks with their verbal fellatio for free--without any bribes--and that's just downright stupid. I'd like to think network execs are at least smart enough to accept payment before disgracing themselves in such a manner.

        1. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Or, just maybe, that the news stations reported the news as it was.  The local sit in went on for months, totally destroying a public park.  Protesters (as many homeless as not) stole power from nearby public buildings, destroyed the landscaping and defecated all over the lawns.  Cops were needed more than a few times to quell violence between protesters, and there was at least one rape.

          When they finally left, the park was bulldozed and started anew, at enormous cost.  "Protesters" my a$$; these were delinquents and thieves, destroying public property and violating every sanitation code around.

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Did you personally witness all that or are you just repeating what the news media told you? smile

            1. Silverspeeder profile image59
              Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              A noble cause for the left wing err......... masses to follow.

              My lasting image of the occupy for London activists is one throwing a waste bin through a bank window (live), but this could have been a journalist I suppose.

              Whilst I agree that anyone has a right to protest against something they see as wrong I think the occupy movement lost control of what should have been a peaceful non aggressive demonstration and as such lost the support of the public in general.

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Lost control through their actions or through the actions of agents provocateur?

                1. wilderness profile image96
                  wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Primarily their own actions.  A demonstration is useless if it doesn't garner media attention, and absolutely the best and easiest way to do that is to add in a little violence.  A garbage can through the window, a fist fight, maybe a little arson as a cop car goes up in flames.  In the mob scene it will always grow very quickly, attracting the media.

                  The little guy at the bottom may just want to be a part of a peaceful protest, but the agents provocateur, the people at the top setting it all up and with something to lose if it all flops, they have a different agenda in mind.

                  1. John Holden profile image60
                    John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    As do the police and government security services and to a lesser extent the media itself.

            2. wilderness profile image96
              wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Some of both.  I didn't witness the rape, but police records are easy enough to track.  I didn't see the power theft, but it was pretty well documented and mentioned several times in the legislature.  I DID see the park during and after the mob left, and the massive damage done, and that was my biggest gripe with them.  They not only deprived the public of the use of the park, they absolutely destroyed it for future use as well until it could be completely rebuilt.

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      retief2000posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      It wasn't passive resistance , it was poop in the park and on the police car while waiting for a handout.

  3. J - R - Fr13m9n profile image85
    J - R - Fr13m9nposted 3 years ago

    The bankers and the mainstream media (especially one particular mainstream outlet i need not identify) treated Occupy Wall Street as a malediction. Persistence is the key to social change. Many years may pass before we see any major change. Thank you for your comment.

  4. JenniferReeves profile image90
    JenniferReevesposted 3 years ago

    Yes, passive resistance is still effective. For example, the women in Saudi Arabia who are trying to end the discrimination against them. One form of discrimination is the fact that they are not allowed to drive cars, or obtain a driver's license. Therefore, they must rely on men to transport them. Women are asserting their independence by taking the wheel themselves. Many women are risking their jobs and reputation to stand up for their rights. This method of protest will inevitably change the law, but it is taking so long because they live in such a male-dominated culture.

    1. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Is it passive to take action that violates the law?  I would not have considered it so...

      1. MelissaBarrett profile image61
        MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I wouldn't think.

        In this case passive resistance would be to refuse to go anywhere until they could drive themselves.

        1. J - R - Fr13m9n profile image85
          J - R - Fr13m9nposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Your comment is appreciated. Thank you.

          1. MelissaBarrett profile image61
            MelissaBarrettposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            No need to thank me. I wasn't talking to you.

        2. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          That would sound more passive, all right.

    2. J - R - Fr13m9n profile image85
      J - R - Fr13m9nposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you for your response Ms. Reeves. Yes it does take a long time, I would say generations. Passive resistance is not easy; for example if someone is physically abusing a passive resistance demonstrator. Persistence is the key.

  5. John Holden profile image60
    John Holdenposted 3 years ago

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