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The USA is destined to win WW III.

  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    Some people are not in agreement as far as conspiracy theories.  Yet rumors abound explaining that whoever put Obama in place is pretty much controlling the US from behind the scenes. The next presidential race "they" say will be between Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton. Then we will have an "election" where Jeb wins and afterwards runs the country very badly. Then, when it counts, the left will move back into power…. slowly moving us toward socialism. We will fall for it, We will crumble.
          But, then we will bounce back into position once we know for sure what is actually going on. Right when China and Russia and whoever else thinks they have us, we'll fight back, possibly on our very soil. The statue of liberty might tumble into the sea, but her arm and torch may remain visible, raising out of the sea... and we will win the third world war.

    1. gmwilliams profile image86
      gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Well, that is a good hypothesis to say the least.   It is well thought out!

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      Carey Mitchellposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I won't enter into the debate around the scenario, but will comment that America's most powerful weapon has always been our economy - it allowed us to gear up and successfully wage WW I and II.  Now that it is stagnant and weakening, while China and Russia are growing theirs (economies and especially their military), I am not as optimistic about the outcome of a major war.  I don't believe there is likely to be a WW type  engagement, but more "proxy wars" and low intensity conflicts.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
        Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, maybe even internet based.

  2. FatFreddysCat profile image93
    FatFreddysCatposted 2 years ago

    Ooooooo-kay. Does Elvis talk to you, too?

    1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
      MelissaBarrettposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I used to have to dissolve things on my tongue to have conversations like this. Imagine the money I could have saved had I known HP was offering the service free of charge.

      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/8801113_f248.jpg

      1. calculus-geometry profile image86
        calculus-geometryposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I used to have to dissolve things on my tongue to have conversations like this.
        Gonna have  to steal this for use in real life. Seriously, my eyes are welling up. lol

      2. janesix profile image60
        janesixposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        How is this any crazier than a belief in something such as, say, the Bible?

        Really. It's completely illogical to believe in the Bible or the Koran. There's all kinds of weirdness in those books and religions. Think about it. The leader of the Catholic church wears a fish crown on his head.

        Weird ideas doesn't make a person crazy.

        1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
          MelissaBarrettposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          This has potential for an interesting conversation.

          Weird ideas (or at least many weird ideas or even a few really weird ideas) technically do make a person crazy. I mean that's kind of the definition of crazy. It's all a matter of degrees. At a certain degree, religious belief IS an indicator of mental illness.

          There is a level of deviance from societal norms that is acceptable, once a person passes that threshold then yes, there is likely something happening up there that shouldn't be. It isn't a matter of logical verses illogical, it's a matter of abnormal thinking vs. normal thinking. Lots of concepts are illogical but still within "normal" thinking (religious beliefs and traditions fall in this category) Lot of things are logical but outside the realm of normal thinking (a lot of phobias fall into this category).

          1. janesix profile image60
            janesixposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            I agree with that.

            People like me, who can't function in society and stay "down to earth" have to take meds and should get therapy.

            It's ok to have weird ideas, as long as they don't take over your life. (Like I've done). Or, if you can't control it.

            1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
              MelissaBarrettposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              True. I don't think there should be a stigma attached to it. At the same time, I think it's invaluable to get the feedback that these "weird ideas" aren't really typical. It's harsh, but that's how those individuals who do have mental illness generally become aware of it. It's a form of societal self-regulation.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
                Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                If you believe this conspiracy theory, explain why. if you do not, explain why.
                Otherwise, you are on the other side of a wall, in which case, I, for one, cannot see you.

                1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
                  MelissaBarrettposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Actually, I wasn't talking to you. Sorry. It was an interesting sub-conversation. Such things happen. Keep on behind that wall dear.

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Not a very nice sub conversation at all.

                    And very very very off topic.

                  2. PrettyPanther profile image85
                    PrettyPantherposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    I'm on the other side of the wall, too.  Too much Pink Floyd in her younger years? ;-)

              2. janesix profile image60
                janesixposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Actually, I never thought of it that way. Perhaps you have a good point. In my own personal experience, especially during my first "episode" I had no idea what was going on. I had no idea I was acting strangely. I didn't know till later that my boyfriend had called my mom and family over for an "intervention".

                I can self-regulate a bit more easily now, because I know the signs of the beginnings of psychosis. Still, once I'm there, I don't know what's real and what's in my mind.

  3. janesix profile image60
    janesixposted 2 years ago

    If there will be war, it will be a war of resources. I doubt it will be about some conspiracy theory.

  4. janesix profile image60
    janesixposted 2 years ago

    But who really wins, if everything's blown to bits?

  5. janesix profile image60
    janesixposted 2 years ago

    Even science is illogical and weird. Quantum mechanics? Particles popping into existence for no apparent reason? Far from logical, yet millions of people swear by it and accept it at face value.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      No, JS I am discussing conspiracy theories and whether or not this one is believable. Many people believe this one. To understand world affairs in this light allows one to remain calm in an increasingly mad world.
      TWISI.

      1. janesix profile image60
        janesixposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I know. I was just saying you aren't crazy for thinking so, as others were insinuating.

        As for your theory, I don't think there is any big conspiracy. I think that there is probably major influence in politics from big corporations or other interests, but that's about as far as I think it goes.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
          Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          How much influence do they have over the going-ons in this country?

          And the real question is:
           
                                          Q.What are the influences?

          1. janesix profile image60
            janesixposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            I have no idea, but probably quite a bit.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
              Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Yes.  Yes.  Yes.
              ...whoever want to convince me this is not true, I am all eyes.

              1. janesix profile image60
                janesixposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Even if it is true, what could even possibly be done about it?

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Awareness is everything.
                  A lot!

                  We could prevent a lot of suffering.

                  1. janesix profile image60
                    janesixposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Well, do you have any proof of anything? Let's take a look at the proof, and then go over the details.

  6. wendhel7 profile image61
    wendhel7posted 2 years ago

    very crazy, and cool input... At least, the Statue of Liberty pokes out the water! Thank God for that right?

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      ( Why the question mark??? You are not sure? )

      Right!

  7. janesix profile image60
    janesixposted 2 years ago

    I can't talk like this if you keep editing:) It is just too confusing.

  8. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    I win.

    1. janesix profile image60
      janesixposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      You are a competitive one, aren't you...lol

      I certainly do enjoy our discussions, even when we disagree on so much.

  9. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    Back to the laws of nature:
    God gave man love of independence.
    Not dependance on a government.
    Ourselves.
    End of Story.

    1. janesix profile image60
      janesixposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      God gave man

      Free will (or the appearance of free will)
      Natural instincts
      A sense of right and wrong

  10. janesix profile image60
    janesixposted 2 years ago

    "Common means scientifically and naturally applicable to all people. Laws of nature/ applicable to all people. Maybe it gets down to science!
    nature has laws.  if we do not follow the laws of nature we will all suffer. "

    "What laws are those? 
    What laws of nature should we follow that we are currently breaking  and causing us to suffer?"

    I don't know. I don't think science has it all figured out yet.

  11. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    repeating:
         "Without freedom to guide our wills according to this sense of independence, we humans are miserable.
    We are loving when we are free and hateful and crazy when we are not free.
          In liberty, we are willing to help out our fellows when they need our help due to a natural sense of compassion. When one is deviated through unhealthful restrictions placed by parents, society or government, love is blocked and anger resides in its place."
    I think the founding fathers would heartily agree with me. I can hear them clapping in the heavens.
    So should we all.

 
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