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Immigration Reform

  1. greekpalmtree profile image82
    greekpalmtreeposted 2 years ago

    A broken system.  Why isn't the government doing more? 

    Whether people agree or disagree with Immigration Reform there needs to be a compassionate solution.  It's a human rights issue...and it's a crisis.

    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/843/643/ … of-summer/

    1. gmwilliams profile image85
      gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      There need to be stricter and more stringent rules regarding immigration.   Only those immigrants who possess relevant educational and work skills should be allowed to enter America.  Conversely, immigrants who possess no such education nor skills should be turned away.   America isn't a charity; America has enough problems of her own without adding immigrants who CAN'T contribute to America.

      1. Silverspeeder profile image61
        Silverspeederposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        And you think you have problems!
        Here in the UK we have absolutely no control over our borders. Anyone from Europe can enter, any criminal, any benefit scrounger, any health tourist, anyone in fact and we can't stop them. There is also an issue with immigrants/ asylum seekers from around the world, as long as they land in Europe they can all come here and no matter what they have done, from terrorism to murder and slavery we can't send them home because of the faceless bureaucrats in the ECHR interpreting the rules as they see them.
        In the last 15 years there have been wildly different estates as to how many have come, the general consensus is between 3.5 and 5.5 million with one. Organisation suggesting almost 10 million.
        Now don't forget this is not a country the size of the US, it's probably about the size of some of your Texas cattle ranches.
        And there will be some that say that the immigrants have caused no problems at all but they really do have their heads buried firmly in their own butts.
        Immigration really does need reform, the human rights act needs reform and article 8 needs reform.
        Countries can't keep pushing their problems onto everyone else by encouraging their disaffected, underachieving, anti government dissidents and economic disasters onto any country that will have them.

        1. John Holden profile image61
          John Holdenposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          There are so many flaws in that statement that I can't even begin to correct them all.

        2. gmwilliams profile image85
          gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          THANK YOU SILVERSPEEDER, A VOICE OF REASON.  You see Silverspeeder, it is the socialist, entitlement, welfare mentality in progress.  We just let them in and we'll pay for it.   Well, ENOUGH is ENOUGH.  America has enough socioeconomic problems with its OWN people without adding illegals to the mix as they are excess baggage that America DOESN't NEED.

          1. John Holden profile image61
            John Holdenposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            But the problem with Silverspeeders response is that like your's, it is emotional and not based on reality.

            Our borders are not open to anybody and we work hard to keep illegal aliens out of the country. Those that do manage to slip through have to live under the radar and if caught they are immediately deported and those employing them heavily fined, and I mean heavily.

            1. Silverspeeder profile image61
              Silverspeederposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I didn't know you had your butt firmly filled with your head John.

              The reality is John is that we have 149000 illegals waiting for a decision on whether they are to be deported or not, whilst they wait there are an army of the liberal left and looney apologists calling for families and children of these illegals to be released from the detention centres.
              And I am sorry to inform you John that you are wrong, there is no limitations to the amount of people who can come from the EU and as long as we stay in there never will be.

              As you may of guessed GW John is one of those socialists who believe everybody has the right to take what you have.

              1. gmwilliams profile image85
                gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                DEFINITELY, but I have known that all along.  Silverspeeder, the issue is illegals exhausting and draining our overworked social system.  The American economy is precarious and highly tenuous.  It is totally illogical to bring illegals in; they don't have skills.  We do not need people w/o contributable and relevant skills.  We have enough moochers in America.   America needs to totally revamp its social systems, eliminating welfare by at least 75% and create jobs with living wage so American living standards can be high again.   What the politicos in Washington under Obummy fail to realize that illegals will decrease the living standards of America. 

                In addition to exhausting social programs, they will also take jobs away from low income Americans, thus plummeting the latter into the underclass.  There is already conflcits between illegals and low income Caucasians and Blacks.   If the influx ocntinues, there IS going to be racial/ethnic war among illegals, Caucasians, and Blacks because of scarcity of rexources.  In addition to that, there is going to be hatred of Latino in general.

                1. John Holden profile image61
                  John Holdenposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  You know nothing.

                  1. gmwilliams profile image85
                    gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    No, YOU know nothing. I KNOW that the influx of illegals is going to further damage the American socioeconomic fabric. The illegals are to Americans what the Huns were to the Romans.  America is going to HELL!

                2. GA Anderson profile image85
                  GA Andersonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Where do you get the information that helps you feel so confident about strident opinions? Or are your opinions just your emotional responses, and as such don't need any facts to validate them?

                  GA

                  1. gmwilliams profile image85
                    gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Even the Reverend Jesse Jackson has taken Obama to task for putting the needs of the illegals before the needs of America.  Reverend Jackson indicated that Obama should help American children as they are the country's priority before helping illegal children.  Mr. Jackson believes that Black families are going to be displaced socioeconomically because of the influx of illegals. In essence, it's going to be the poorest America, regardless of race, who will be negatively impacted by the influx of illegals.
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              2. John Holden profile image61
                John Holdenposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                I think it is you who has their head firmly up their butt.

                By definition EU citizens are not illegal aliens, neither are refugees awaiting a decision.
                Illegals are deported as soon as they are found, how else would some of those at Sangette make daily attempts to access the UK?

  2. demonfort007 profile image79
    demonfort007posted 2 years ago

    Simple we are ran by communisim and no we do not need immigration reform but we need to enforce the laws that are already in place. Send them back we can not afford them and we have millions in need here that are here LEGEALY.

    1. John Holden profile image61
      John Holdenposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Communism lol lol lol

    2. gmwilliams profile image85
      gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000-yet ANOTHER voice of reason and logic.

      1. John Holden profile image61
        John Holdenposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Run by communism is reason and logic!

        Two more words you don't understand the meaning of.

    3. gmwilliams profile image85
      gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      +1,000,000,000,000!

  3. psycheskinner profile image80
    psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago

    Illegals are also the only reason the crops get harvested and linens changed in the hotels.  That is why big business does not support a crack down. Americans demonstrably will not take minimum wage seasonal laboring jobs. Our economy depends on have access to people who will. No amount of ideology will change that. You cannot make Americans work like immigrants. IMHO, the answers is a proper working visa system for manual laborers with clean records--which does allow eventual naturalization. ...Or paying a living age for those jobs, which is even more of a pipe dream.

    1. John Holden profile image61
      John Holdenposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      It has also been illustrated that people unused to agricultural work (i.e. crop picking) can not do it for long at any level of remuneration.

      1. psycheskinner profile image80
        psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Probably because its frickin brutal.  As a student I mucked out pig stalls and picked berries.  Bloody hard work which. I also would not do it for minimum wage unless there was no other option at all.

        1. John Holden profile image61
          John Holdenposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          When I was younger I worked in forestry, harvesting. That is crippling hard work and requires super fitness.
          One summer when work was a bit slack we decided to go strawberry picking. I worked from dawn to dusk, could hardly stand up when finished and by the time we got home having stopped for a couple of pints and a couple of gallons of petrol arrived home with almost exactly the same amount of money we'd left with in the morning.

    2. GA Anderson profile image85
      GA Andersonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      You make good points, and one of the"answers" you speak of already exists - the use of the H2-A temporary worker program, that with employer assistance could lead to a green card.

      GA

  4. gmwilliams profile image85
    gmwilliamsposted 2 years ago

    Rest, take care of yourself and hope you get better soon.

    1. Silverspeeder profile image61
      Silverspeederposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I am getting better by the day GW, I was out of bed yesterday and I have started to reduce the painkillers, however I shall still be no weight barring for 12 weeks and will have to take a year off work.
      Thanks you.

  5. writelane profile image61
    writelaneposted 2 years ago

    When the Pilgrims arrived they were immigrants. We need compassion and new rules - yes, it is a human rights issue. There has to be a good reason why these parents are paying dearly to send their children to another country.

  6. maxoxam41 profile image78
    maxoxam41posted 2 years ago

    My problem is why suddenly the media gives such importance to immigration? Which agenda are they trying to hide by emphasizing on immigration? Which country are we going to attack this time? Or which act of terrorism are they going to implement domestically to blame it on Russia in order to justify a nuclear attack? Isn't it what our governmental bubbleheads want?

 
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