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Racism is Rampant Today

  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    There is proof everywhere you look…
    For instance...
    uh… uh….

    1. bBerean profile image60
      bBereanposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Nowhere is it more evident than among the fear mongers whose fame and livelihood depends on their ability to perpetuate dissension and sow discord.  Nevertheless, prophetically it is a sign of the times, as "ethnos" shall rise against "ethnos".  IMHO wink

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
        Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        "Nowhere is it more evident than among the fear mongers whose fame and livelihood depends on their ability to perpetuate dissension and sow discord."
        Thank You!

        Ethnos
        Ethnos (in Greek: ἔθνος "nation") may refer to:
        Ethnic group
        ... and this rising up is evident where?
        middle east… not here in America.
        We must be a unified people to fight the prophetic uprisings. IMHO we are still recovering from the horrible institution of slavery. We need to get past the past to be able to embrace the future...
        when we will be called upon to subdue the TRUE enemy.
        ( whatever it is…)

    2. Credence2 profile image85
      Credence2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      "Rampant" is a strong word, racism has mutated into milder forms over the last generation or two. While it is still among us, it is not the impediment to achievement that it once was... Just 25 years ago, if someone would have told me that we would have a black president, I would have said that they were nuts.....

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
        Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        And that is exactly the point.
        Racism is technically impossible today due to all the laws put into place!


        Apparently, Morality had/has no effect on the matter what so ever.


        And that is a sad commentary on the state of human affairs.

        But, we are getting much much better. We really are. As morality increases...
        TWISI

          Proofs?

        1. Credence2 profile image85
          Credence2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          No, no, racism is not impossible, It  has taken a different tack that certainly is not as obvious as it once was. But believe me, it is still here, unfortunately.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
            Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Morality… are we more moral today?

            1. Credence2 profile image85
              Credence2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

              To be honest, I think that we as a society are no more moral than in the past, we just have tools and technology to make it quicker and more efficient to exploit your neighbor. Much like the difference between a single shot musket and a 50 caliber submachine gun.... We have just become more efficient in doing the wrong thing.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
                Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                I need "for instances…" (good writing always provides examples…)

                1. Credence2 profile image85
                  Credence2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  I hear you, perhaps while I am checking, why do you think that society is more enlightened or moral?

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    I think we are a more feeling and conscious society. We have come a long way… For instance: When I am with my parents or my 83 year old neighbor across the street, I can't believe how petty they are... how self-oriented, how desperate they are to be in touch with or even express their true feelings.
                    I really think we, as a society, are more in touch with the love in our hearts and the ability to express it. I honor my parents generation… but, we so called boomers had a lot of work to do to overcome the mores of the times they ignorantly and unquestioningly followed, such as the application of racist customs, restrictions on women, restrictions on freedom of speech, on hair length, styles and music.. You know…all that forgotten stuff!
                    BTW They are a very long-lived generation. If we talk to them and listen to them we can deeply respect how they also paved a glorious way for all the following generations, as well.
                    What we see today are people questioning... honestly questioning. The BS is being torn up and torn apart.
                        We are torn and we are tearing, but what will come is a whole fabric… of common understanding and acceptance of truth.
                    As I Hope.

          2. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
            Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Can you give examples? By offering examples of how racism still manifests it enlightens us, by ISOLATING the difficulty. We can work on the solution only by knowing the problem. (This is a Montessori principle.)

            1. Credence2 profile image85
              Credence2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Not plugging deliberately, but you asked me. I did an article( hub) about the outrageous exploitation of the minority community by major institutional banks in regard to mortgage loans (Wells Fargo). This reached the level of prosecution of these banks by the Federal Government. The institutions involved decided to settle out court while denying guilt.  Saying that racism in America is not possible is an absolute and we are not there yet. A lot like calculating pi, more digits but do we ever get a definitive answer? Meanwhile, I can certainly work on other examples.

            2. Credence2 profile image85
              Credence2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I am just one man and do not have all the answers and I look just as urgently as you would. You also need to tell me how all the laws we have make racism impossible, how are you that certain?

    3. rhamson profile image77
      rhamsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      It is a product of the face value society we have today. The first thing we notice is how a person appears. Our fears and experiences govern our response to others and with all the walls we throw up it is often the wrong first impression we get from strangers. How often do we have a deep discussion with our friends and acquaintances without fear of offending them or exposing our inner selves. It is not a popular and more over a risky exposure to say the least. Sometimes I am amazed at the distortions and or snap judgment's that come out of people I thought I had known very well. Why is it that we are this divided and still so vulnerable?

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
        Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Someone just told me, in jail, there is the worst racism. Thats where it is rampant… I guess. Couldn't tell you…but according to this guy I was talking to…
           I can't even say more.

        1. rhamson profile image77
          rhamsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          The anger of these people that are in jail feeds many emotional and physical actions. I think that these problems came in with them and manifest themselves with the only things they know to express themselves. I don't know what could be done to change that as they have to pay for their transgressions inside before doing something about it on the outside.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
            Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            - yes. They must work on their attitudes. Before they went in they were already in a self-consrtucted jail of negative feelings/emotions.

            anger
            self-pity
            depression
            hatred
            inability to forgive
            revenge
            desperation
            hopelessness
            lying
            stealing,
            drug abuse
            In general... a downward spiral.

            What maintains an upward spiral?

            (BTW I no longer speak of race/color. We are all people made in the same way with spirits and nervous systems. If your eye be single, (sense of intuition,) your whole body will be perceived as light...and the bodies of all others, as well. No matter what your situation in life, in America, every citizen has equal opportunity.)

            1. rhamson profile image77
              rhamsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I agree on the inside there are so many human emotions that bind us all together. On the outside there are cultural either generationally developed by good or bad influences that seems to draw the distinction. Is it bad to have cultural differences? I don't think so. It is like the old adage "If all the flowers were the same, what a boring garden it would make".

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
                Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                of course… what is bad is to let anything rob us of opportunities which rightfully exist for all.
                What will each of us do with the freedom we have been granted by our forefathers? What will we do to make sure we can keep these opportunities for posterity.

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    Don W posted
    "...ignorance results in people not accepting that racism is woven into the fabric of society (a legal system that is racially biased is an example of exactly that). And it's not "alleged" that black males get up to 20% longer sentences than whites for the same crime. They do. Sentencing data is freely available. And no it's not something that should be dismissed as you do. It's an absolute travesty. Same for the other instances cited."
    (The "other instances" were references to want ads regarding black employment rates, websites of white supremacists and institutional racism.)

    "Institutional racism is any system of inequality based on race. It can occur in institutions such as public government bodies, private business corporations (such as media outlets), and universities (public and private). The term was introduced by Black Power activists Stokely Carmichael and Charles V. Hamilton in the late 1960s.

    The definition given by William Macpherson within the report looking into the death of Stephen Lawrence was “the collective failure of an organization to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their colour, culture, or ethnic origin." Wikipedia
    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/123808? … ost2622695

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    I still say "room for improvement" is not "racial creep."

  4. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    "Civil Rights Act of 1866:
    This is the law that declared all people born in the United States are legally citizens. This means they could rent, hold, sell and buy property. This law was meant to help former slaves, and those who refused to grant these new rights to slaves were guilty and punishable under law. The penalty was a fine of $1000 or a maximum of one year in jail.

    Fair Housing Act of 1968: (Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968)
    Extends the protection to color, religion, sex and national origin.

    The New York State Human Rights Law:
    Extends the protection to marital status and age, aimed to prevent non-racial discrimination.

    Section 236 and 237 of the New York State Property Law:
    Further extends the protection to include dwellings with children and mobile home parks. This is meant to protect renters and sellers from discriminating based on number of children in a family. Currently the Fair Housing Act protects against discrimination of race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status, and disability. The law applies to all types of housing, rental homes, apartments, condos and houses. The only exception to the act is when an owner of a small rental building lives in the same building he rents to. Since he owns the building and also resides there, he can decide who lives there."

    1. Credence2 profile image85
      Credence2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Do you think that in the century after 1866, that the spirit of that law was adhered to?
      We had reconstruction and Jim Crow. JFK said in 1963,  that in the century after the Emancipation Proclamation, black folks were not yet free.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
        Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Mores:
        mores |ˈmôrˌāz| plural noun
        the essential or characteristic customs and conventions of a community: Dictionary
        Mores (generally pronounced /ˈmɔreɪz/, and often /ˈmɔriːz/; from Latin mōrēs, [ˈmoːreːs], grammatically plural: "habit"; singular form: mōs) is a term introduced into English by William Graham Sumner (1840–1910), an early U.S. sociologist, to refer to norms that are more widely observed and have greater moral significance than others. Mores include an aversion for societal taboos, such as incest or pederasty. Consequently, the values and mores of a society predicates legislation prohibiting their taboos. Wikipedia

        These do not go away OVERNIGHT, obviously.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
          Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I said, "What we see today are people questioning... honestly questioning. The BS is being torn up and torn apart."

          For Instance: Atheism is a reflection of this honest questioning. People do not want to blindly believe… they want Reality. For instance, atheists claim that morals do not originate out of religion, they originate from the perception of what is right. What is Right is what we are coming to terms with. It is a valid search and the results of that search are worth waiting for.

          I feel that people are very sincere in general. However and unfortunately, on the internet, where people are expressing themselves freely in an anonymous way, freedom of speech is actually being abused and I don't like to see insincere points of view. Eventually, even that abuse will cease as others call them on it.

          Perhaps, calling on what is wrong... is the key.

          So go ahead and isolate the difficulties, the injustices, the restrictions of the human spirit.
          Read Abraham Lincoln.
          Truth will prevail… I think.
          Because as some one said, the truth sets you free.

  5. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    "The Civil Rights Act of 1968 also enacted 18 U.S.C. § 245(b), which permits federal prosecution of anyone who "willingly injures, intimidates or interferes with another person, or attempts to do so, by force because of the other person's race, color, religion or national origin"  because of the victim's attempt to engage in one of six types of federally protected activities, such as attending school, patronizing a public place/facility, applying for employment, acting as a juror in a state court or voting.

    Persons violating this law face a fine or imprisonment of up to one year, or both. If bodily injury results or if such acts of intimidation involve the use of firearms, explosives or fire, individuals can receive prison terms of up to 10 years, while crimes involving kidnapping, sexual assault, or murder can be punishable by life in prison or the death penalty."

  6. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    More evidence of room for improvement according to Wikipedia:

    "Violations of the Fair Housing Act
    There are an estimated 2 million cases of housing discrimination each year according to HUD. The National Fair Housing Alliance, the largest fair housing non-profit in the country, estimates that number to be closer to 4 million per year, excluding instances of discrimination due to disability or familial status.[20] The actual number of Fair Housing Act violations is likely much higher than 4 million annually. However, between the years of 1989 and 1992 only 17 of these went to court nationwide. Redlining is still a major problem despite the legislation passed making it illegal. Studies and investigations have shown that minorities who apply for mortgages are rejected 3 times as much as Caucasians. According to one Federal Reserve Board study, among higher income applicants, the denial rates were as follows:

    African-Americans: 21.4%
    Latinos: 15.8%
    Asians: 11.2%
    Whites: 8.5%
    Housing projects have also come under fire by researchers and NGOs alike. Housing advocates Elizabeth Julian and Michael Daniel state:

    'in addition to the inequality in the actual housing provided to low-income African-American families under the federal programs, the neighborhoods in which they receive assistance are usually subject to various adverse conditions not found in the neighborhoods surrounding the housing units in which whites receive the same assistance. These conditions include inferior city-provided facilities and services, little or no new or newer residential housing, large numbers of seriously substandard structures, noxious environmental conditions, substandard or completely absent neighborhood service facilities, high crime rates, inadequate access to job centers, and little or no investment of new capital in the area by public and private entities.'

    Thus, this discrimination goes beyond being poor because white housing projects receive more attention and public investment, making housing discrimination overall a racial problem.

    Although several legal measures have been taken to protect all kinds of people against housing discrimination in the U.S., still the most commonly targeted and largest victims are African-Americans."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

  7. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    Interesting opinions from two years ago:
    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/82359

  8. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    And then there is this topic:
    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/85781

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I have decided it is morally wrong to call out and pinpoint the color of a man's skin or his genetic heritage. We are all equal under the law as long as our constitution is in place. It is a matter of common decency to honor all citizens and each other as Americans. And all that entails. Even in Jail, guys.

  9. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    Discrimination exists on so many levels.

    Discrimination: "1 the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, esp. on the grounds of race, age, or sex:" Dictionary

    One could add "class."

    "3 social division, social stratum, rank, level, echelon, group, grouping, income group; social status; estate; condition."

    Maybe what we have is an issue of class discrimination.
    What has contributed to the CREATION of this class?

    This "lower" class?

    This class apparently stuck in poverty with no way out... to the point they blame others?

    Could it have been created way back in 1966? with the attempt to legislate morality?


    Why, in a basically Christian nation, were we so evil that morality had to be legislated?

    Confused.

  10. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    I have discovered it is an US vs THEM class.
    Legislating morality caused some Americans to identify with helplessness, weakness and victimhood.
    Perhaps?

  11. maxoxam41 profile image79
    maxoxam41posted 2 years ago

    Is racism rampant or only the expression of an economic crisis? Is racism rampant or was it sleeping? What can we expect from a society that had its roots in colonialism?

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Racism is rampant when there is no morality.

    2. rhamson profile image77
      rhamsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I think all of those are a component to the divide. What is funny is that those who are doing well forget the past as their lives are set on the future. Those who are not faring so well have time for retrospect and what contributed to their condition. The two different factions in this have a hard time relating to each others fortunes or plight.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
        Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        But, I just discovered that racism is actually kind of a problem in public schools! I was so surprised after a google search!
        I have never seen it in the schools where I substitute teach.
        Very disheartening.
        http://blackagendareport.com/content/pu … nal-racism

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image84
          Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          An excerpt from the article: News, Analysis and Commentary From The Black Left:
          "Disparate educational standards are the rule in present day America, broken down by way of race and income. These inequities are more race-based than they are class-based. For example, even so-called “well to do American-born Africans” that reside within predominately white suburban communities, are strongly persuaded to worship white supremacists, slaveholders, and murderers like George Washington (owned over 300 African slaves), Andrew Jackson (murdered countless of Seminoles) and Christopher Columbus (murdered tens of thousands of indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere). These students must learn to accept and admire repugnant white historical figures, regardless of the pain and damage they inflicted upon enslaved Africans and indigenous people. This is nothing short of white supremacy in the raw."    
          Black Agenda Report

          What are we to make of this type of rhetoric?

          1. Credence2 profile image85
            Credence2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            If this was what was said, it is a bit over the top. The race conflict is just a skirmish in larger war of haves verses have not. I recognize contributions of these White historical figures in balance, acknowledging the good and the bad. Where on earth is aggression not the rule of the day, in past centuries or today?

  12. Cgenaea profile image60
    Cgenaeaposted 2 years ago

    Rubbish!!! Everyone knows...we are free.

  13. Cgenaea profile image60
    Cgenaeaposted 2 years ago

    Edit: wink

 
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