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ONE MILLION IRAQIS DIED

  1. maxoxam41 profile image79
    maxoxam41posted 2 years ago

    That is to say 4% of the population. It is the direct consequence of our brutal conquest. Is it what democracy is about?

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
      Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Democracy is not about giving power to evil. It is about giving power to the people.
      Do the people want their power to be used for evil? No. Do the people want their power to be used to protect them? Yes.
      Are the government leaders fooling us? Are they saying they are trying to protect us? But, actually have ulterior motives?  Democracy can be used to vote them out when it is discovered they do not have the people's best interests at heart.

      Right?

      1. maxoxam41 profile image79
        maxoxam41posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Do you really want me to answer your questions?
        Since you assume that we're bringing democracy in Iraq why is it that Sunni Muslims control the region with the Kurds? Why is it that we permitted the genocide of several existing tribes of Iraqis? Why is it that now we are exploiting Iraqi oil?
        It is time that the majority of hubpages' readers grow up and investigate more seriously instead of swallowing blindly what mainstream media says.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
          Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          ...well, thank you for letting us know what is really going on. How do you get your news?

          1. bethperry profile image88
            bethperryposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Since I get my news from several sources, I, too, would like to know how maxoxam41 is so much more informed than everyone else at HP's. Maxoxam41, care to elucidate us?

            1. maxoxam41 profile image79
              maxoxam41posted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Why don't you ask Dennis J Kucinich? He is my source. I don't know where you get your source but it is obviously and conscientiously limited. Why do I have access to a broader source and not you?

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
                Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Sorry for existing.
                Gosh!

                1. maxoxam41 profile image79
                  maxoxam41posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Contrary to a million of Iraqis you are alive.

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Lets just accept that I am really quite ill-informed. Okay?  Now don't get all irritated at my question, but…
                    - how did they die? I mean, what was the "brutal conquest?"

              2. bethperry profile image88
                bethperryposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                If you get your news from a single former Congressman, wow. No, I don't suppose that suggests any insulated or agenda-soaked world view on your part at all. Sorry I can't be as broad-minded to rely on a single source. I'll have to stick with MSNBC, FOX, CNN, ABC, Yahoo News, Aljazeera and the BBC and use that awful thing called common sense in determining the accuracy of the news I see and read.

                1. maxoxam41 profile image79
                  maxoxam41posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  It seems part and parcel of petty minds to assume that anyone will develop a critical thinking only based on one source.
                  It is interesting to see that your source is mostly audiovisual that is to say a very effortless and biased source. Even Jazeera, the Qatari channel is a US vassal therefore not independent at all. I understand why you are so misinformed and uninformed.

              3. GA Anderson profile image85
                GA Andersonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Kucinich does offer some common sense non-tow-the-line perspectives, but he also makes some outrageous non-reality statements. How do you pick and choose which to believe?

                GA

                1. maxoxam41 profile image79
                  maxoxam41posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  What about using a critical thinking and what I would call a bit of common sense and intelligence? Can't you do that? Is it that much of an effort?

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    He is talking about the ability to discern. It is not a matter of effort. Unless you are talking about flying over to the country and going to the right people to get the right answers. Who would you go to for the correct info, if you could go directly to the appropriate scene?

        2. GA Anderson profile image85
          GA Andersonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Max I know you cite alternative news sources, but what are your sources for the claims that we supported the genocide of what tribes?

          And since most data available contradicts your claims of the U.S. exploiting and benefiting from Iraqi oil, what are your sources to the contrary? Everything I find cites China as the biggest Iraqi oil benefactor.

          GA

          1. maxoxam41 profile image79
            maxoxam41posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            What about Jeremy Scahill? As with Tarpley, you will shoot at the messenger? Or let me guess, you didn't read him either!
            Which data are they? Which source?
            Who is in Iraq since the assassination of Saddan Hussein? Is it the US or China? Who has military bases, mercenaries... in Iraq? The US or China? Let me guess again, you won't answer objectively because you will lose face.

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
    Kathryn L Hillposted 2 years ago

    August 8, 2014 - Two U.S. F/A-18 jet fighters bomb artillery of Sunni Islamic extremists in Iraq. President Barack Obama has authorized "targeted airstrikes" if needed to protect U.S. personnel from fighters with ISIS. The U.S. military also could use airstrikes to prevent what officials warn could be a genocide of minority groups by the ISIS fighters.
    August 19, 2014 - In a video posted on YouTube, U.S. journalist James Foley, missing in Syria since 2012, is decapitated by ISIS militants. The militants then threaten the life of another captured U.S. journalist, believed to be Steven Sotloff.
    September 2, 2014 - ISIS releases a video showing the beheading of U.S. journalist Steven Sotloff. Sotloff's apparent executioner speaks in what sounds like the same British accent as the man who purportedly killed Foley. He's dressed identically in both videos, head to toe in black, with a face mask and combat boots. He appears to be of similar build and height. He waves a knife in his left hand, as did the militant in the video of Foley's death.
    September 11, 2014 - The CIA announces that the number of people fighting for ISIS may be more than three times the previous estimates. Analysts and U.S. officials initially estimated there were as many as 10,000 fighters, but now ISIS can "muster between 20,000 and 31,500 fighters across Iraq and Syria," a CIA spokesman tells CNN.
    September 13, 2014 - ISIS militants post video on a website associated with the group, showing the apparent execution of British aid worker David Haines. This makes him the third Western captive to be killed by the Islamist extremist group in recent weeks. ISIS directs a statement at British Prime Minister David Cameron, threatening more destruction if Britian continues its "evil alliance with America." At the end of the video, the executioner threatens the life of Alan Henning, another British citizen held captive. The executioner appears to be the same one who killed both Steven Sotloff and James Foley.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/08/world/isis-fast-facts/

    1. maxoxam41 profile image79
      maxoxam41posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Since you are good in decorticating sentences, why don't you search CNN? Which hands do finance and feed its "reporters"?

  3. Silverspeeder profile image60
    Silverspeederposted 2 years ago

    It is impossible to calculate how many Iraqis Saddam killed, it is said he sacrificed 5 million in the war with Iran.
    This not to say the west had any reason to attack Iraq other than the oil and personal gain of Bush, Blair and the cronies from hell.

    1. maxoxam41 profile image79
      maxoxam41posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      5 million? Who said that? The same ones who said that he had weapons of mass destruction? You understand why I can't believe you and it seems to me to be simple propaganda to have our agenda to move quicker in the daedal labyrinth of the legislative. And how many men is the US government sacrificing? It doesn't count? But, my problem is that contrarily to the Iraqis, they chose to fight, to be a soldier...

      1. Silverspeeder profile image60
        Silverspeederposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I thought you of all people would know about the Iran Iraq war? As many as 10 million may have been killed and Saddam loved to kill Kurds as well. Nobody in Iraq was free and nobody in Iraq is free.

        1. maxoxam41 profile image79
          maxoxam41posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Are you talking about the same Saddam Hussein that we advised and supported in his invasion of Iran? It needed an American meddling in the Iraqi affairs for Iraq to invade Iran, didn't it?
          Who told you that nobody was free in Iraq, our biased media? The same ones that said that there were weapons of mass destruction. I rest my case.

 
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