The A B C's of Confronting A Suspect: A Practical Guide
12 year old Tamir Rice was murdered by police this weekend in Cleveland Ohio. He was executed for the crime of playing with a toy gun on a playground. Since the police can't figure this out for themselves, here are a few tips:
Hot Tip Tip #1:
When you confront a 12 year old boy on a playground and suspect that
the toy gun he is holding might be real, and if you fear for your safety,please stay in your patrol car.
A. Get as close to the suspect as possible, then from the safety of your patrol car use your loudspeaker, or a bullhorn.
B. Identify yourself, and then ask the suspect to drop whatever he may be holding in his hands
C. Instruct the suspect to raise his hands and then lie face down on the ground
Once the suspect has complied, approach the suspect and assess the situation.By using this method you will help to ensure the safety of the officer , as well as the suspect.
Hot Tip #2:
If you are afraid of 12 year old boys, I suggest a career change. Perhaps a career in accounting,or a managerial position at Dunkin Donuts.You are probably proud of your tips - and the exhibited wit...
But would your point be as easily made if you were a little more accurate in your portrayal?
For instance;
This sure looks like a replay of the media's Trayvon Martin images.
Then of course there is the "instant" recognition of " the toy" gun issue...
The "publicly known" circumstances sure look bad for the cop.
Which means this statement relating part of the event can't possibly be true...
"...LISTEN | 911 caller reports Tamir Rice incident
That's when officers on the scene said they asked Rice to raise his hands and he went for the gun in his waistband."
OK, so they are 10 feet away, it appears to be an overcast day, they are responding to a person with a gun call, and when they ask the victim to raise his hands, and instead he reaches for a not-so-obviously-a-toy gun in his waist band.
Hmm.. Cleveland, gangs, police interaction with gangs with guns - is it possible this scenario might be a familiar one to cops?
Of course for all I know the cop could be guilty as hell for excessive use of force and judgement so poor he shouldn't have a gun - but... it sure doesn't seem as obviously cut-and-dried as you portray it.
Just sayin'
GA
If I were more accurate in my portrayal, I would get banned from Hubpages! Today everyone wants to see the smiling face, hear the friendly word, and keep it upbeat, while children are being murdered by cops. Of course, to many Americans these aren't just children , they are "black" children. Consequently, the adjective makes a difference. Your own words help to prove my point. You have commented that the image looks a lot like Trayvon Martin. To translate for the slower readers, this is a clever way of saying, " They all look alike". You also are careful to make a connection between inner city gang violence and the murder of a child playing on a playground with a toy gun. I suppose you also think that all Italian kids living in New York City are somehow connected to the Mafia.
This kind of white supremacist logic may fly with the befuddled masses, but I'm not buying it. Every black person living in Cleveland is not a gang member. Furthermore, it appears that you are suggesting that any decent law-abiding black person unfortunate enough to have to live amidst poverty and gang violence is by default fair game. You are suggesting that the life of the police officer is more important than the life of the child, and that it is better to kill an unarmed child by mistake than to risk an officer being shot and killed. Posting an image of the two guns is a nice touch that will have the simple folk dancing in the aisles, but all it amounts to is more apologist rhetoric and propaganda.
Making excuses for the cops isn't going to help the situation. Their function and purpose is to serve and protect the citizen. But today, instead of being our public servants,they have become our oppressors, even to the point of killing innocent children with impunity, as evidenced in the Grand Jury's refusal to prosecute the miscreant who murdered Michael Brown in Ferguson Missouri.
The following list will help those members of law enforcement who may find themselves in a situation
where they fear that a toddler, 1st grader, 12 year old, or teenager is carrying a toy that may threaten their life. Read and memorize the following:
• The life of a child is worth more than the life of a cop
• The life of a child is worth more than the life of a full grown man
• A man who murders a child out of fear or malice is a coward
• The man who defends a coward is defenseless
Just sayin'
It doesn't matter if he was at city hall or running down main street. Sometimes kids do things that put themselves in danger. This is why they are called children. We are supposed to look out for them. Of course the parent is responsible. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us get a free lunch. You are suggesting that if a kid doesn't have responsible parents to make all of the right choices, then any loser with a badge that wants to use them for target practice is justified.
Furthermore, until a few days ago I am sure that many parents weren't even aware that such a thing might happen. Kids have been playing with toy guns since long before I was born. I played with toy guns, and so did most of my friends. Our parents never worried about some idiot shooting us. In fact, until a few days ago it never crossed my mind. I was already aware that many in law enforcement aren't at the level of Einstein, but I figured they were at least smart enough to know when a kid was playing with a toy!
The American people have become so conditioned to an oppressive police state that now even the killing of children is taken in stride. The victims are blamed and the murderers are exonerated. What the ignorant masses fail to realize is that the state is continuing to criminalize natural human behavior; to the extent that children can no longer safely play in public places. And there is no need to stop at toy guns. Any number of toys can be turned into a lethal weapon. A doll could be fitted with an explosive device. I have even seen in movies where remote control toy trucks, and cars, were rigged with explosive devices. In a few years some kid is going to get killed by police for playing with a remote controlled Tonka Truck. Of course, they will all shake their head and say " What a shame, but the kid was making the truck go underneath parked cars, and someone called 911 and said it might be rigged with a bomb!"
Oh, I almost forgot: Kathryn, where were the citizens that the cops were protecting? Were they screaming for help? Were they being held hostage? Where were they?
Hear Ye! Hear Ye!
Apparently you haven't watched the video. Barney Fife and Bobo pulled up in their cruiser and immediately jumped out of the car with guns drawn. Within seconds, not minutes, the 12 year old was murdered in cold blood. We can see from the video that no time was taken to assess the situation. This has become typical cop behavior in these situations. They will take the time to drive to the donut shop, stand in line to place an order, and then eat their tasty Dunkin Donut's, but the video reveals that they took no time to spare the life of an innocent child. Why the urgency? Where was the threat?
To answer your question, I am not an imbecile, nor do I consider murder an option. Perhaps I feel this way because murder creates a karmic cycle that is difficult to break. Perhaps another reason is because in the story of Jesus, we understand that Jesus allowed a race of men, not far removed from the baboon, or the monkey, or a goat, to torture and kill him in order to set an example, and to save the soul of man. This is a powerful story`, and whether one chooses to believe it or not, it illustrates how the karmic cycle of violence can be eliminated. We live in a world of violence simply because ignorant men continue to believe that violence and oppression, instead of love and compassion, can solve all of our problems. But we can clearly see that violence only leads to more violence.
We can understand by watching the video that no on, except Tamir Rice, was in harms way. The place looked completely deserted. This reminds me of the cowardly cops who recently killed a homeless man in Albuquerque New Mexico for "trespassing" and camping out on a worthless patch of desert. If I were a cop, and if I were a coward, I would remain in my patrol car, at a safe distance, and instruct the child through loudspeaker or bullhorn. A child should not have to pay with his life because these cops were too stupid to get this concept. I am not a coward or a murderer, consequently, I would have taken as much time as necessary to assess the situation, even if that meant hours. A human life is priceless, but this evil system has convinced many of you that compliance, rigid protocol,and expeditious procedure, are more important than the life of a child.
But please don't feel that I am trying to convince you of anything, as I am speaking directly to God. If there is a reckoning after death, I will not add the silence of a lamb to my list of sins. Osiyo!
I thought of three people when I saw this video; Sed-Me, MelissaBarrett .... and you.
http://faithtap.com/2195/lowell-police- … surprises/
I know, I know, you assumed we would be smart enough to read between the lines for your implied qualifiers, like; some police, not all police, etc. etc.
GA
I like how you think. Now let's move on to politics so I can find something to argue about with you.
GA
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Holy cow! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Your superior interpretation of my remarks is so far off the mark that I think it is you that want to bring the stereotypes into the conversation.
For instance;
"You have commented that the image looks a lot like Trayvon Martin. To translate for the slower readers, this is a clever way of saying, " They all look alike".
I am betting that the "slower readers" you refer to, (as in not as sharp and clear sighted as yourself), would have looked at the two pictures and seen the comparison being made was to the innocent cherubic image being used to manipulate public impression vs. the "less innocent" real image seen by the cops.
Here was my point concerning, "This sure looks like a replay of the media's Trayvon Martin images."
As can easily be seen, the media portrayal of Trayvon Martin, using 4+ year-old pictures presented a much different picture to the public than the more accurate "current" images of him that Zimmerman would have seen. Which was the point of my comment. Maybe some of those "slower readers" might chime in to set me straight.
I sure thought the included images addressed that point - for all readers, but if you really want to insist that I could only have been showing my true racist "They all look alike" colors, then maybe it would stem from your own superior perception of the media's images.
Then you continued;
"You also are careful to make a connection between inner city gang violence and the murder of a child playing on a playground with a toy gun"
Once more you twist a portrayal to suit your bias, rather than address the reality of the moment.
I provided visual proof that both the image of a child, and the obvious instant identification of a toy gun are inaccurate and misleading portrayals. Yet you insist on painting that as the true picture - regardless of the facts. You even got the location wrong. It was not a playground, it was a public park.
So, put the real facts next to your portrayal - " a child playing on a playground with a toy gun" and I think even "slower readers" will be able to pierce the fog and see the light.
Then you go on about the Italians and the Mafia, which confused me, because I would have expected a mind as quick as yours to slyly attribute something about watermelons and fried chicken to my thought process. Hmm...
My confusion continued when you said i suggested; "... the life of the police officer is more important than the life of the child, and that it is better to kill an unarmed child by mistake than to risk an officer being shot and killed."
Where did I suggest that? I would be glad to address that point too.
I have only spoken to the insulting statements and insinuations in your response because the rest is merely a rant on your part. Even so, I am feeling like I should include an apology to the "slower readers" that are familiar with my forum activities. I try hard to leave insults out of my exchanges, but in this case I did not want to be the one that brought a knife to a gunfight.
Rather then ending with a "Just sayin'" I will be more clear. Your response to my comment was, inaccurate, purposefully misleading, condescending, and insulting. Not a very effective way to communicate. Maybe you need to remember to downshift from the higher planes of other forum discussions you participate in and type slower using smaller words when you are here on HP.
GA
Yes. One thing we will never know, though, is how it is to be black. We will just never know. But, anyone can become a victim of an immoral cop. Thats why its important for our society to be allowed to have religious freedom and to encourage the belief in the reality of God. God equals goodness, self control and respect for one another as children of God, Creator, Father, Mighty Triple O.
This sorta of goes against what I said up there. oops…
Unfortunately, the ideal cannot be counted upon. The reality is that humans are not that grounded in the ideal.
When they are grounded, you know it. You can sense it.
But, it is a treat. It is not a given.
Sadly.
Your "logic" is fascinating! This was not Vietnam. This wasn't a potential suicide bomber. This wasn't a kid suspected of stealing cigars from a local store. This wasn't a kid walking down the middle of the street and and then allegedly cursing at the police.
This was a kid playing on a playground , which is a proper place for kids to play! This was a kid that was playing with a toy gun; a toy that an be legally purchased at any number of toy stores throughout the United States. Furthermore, it is not unusual for little boys to play with toy guns. In fact, that's who they are primarily made for.
There were no hostages facing imminent danger. There had been no shots fired. No one was screaming for help. These are facts. Consequently, the police could have taken their time to assess the situation before using deadly force. They could have taken the time to understand that they were dealing with a child who may not have been aware of the seriousness of the situation.
Last but not least, as I have already stated,while taking the time to assess the situation, they could have stayed in the relative safety of their patrol car.They could have used a loudspeaker, or a bullhorn to communicate with the child. They could have also used binoculars to closely examine the scene from a distance. Had they done so they could have easily seen that it was only a toy gun. If the police don't already have binoculars in their patrol cars I suggest that the life of a child, or any other citizen, is worth more than the cost of a pair of binoculars!
My assessment has nothing to do with 20/20 hindsight. My assessment is based on my intelligence, my humanity, my morality, and my uncommon sense.. I will not use the term "common sense", because as this term is defined, and considering the current state of the world, I hardly believe that my wisdom is shared by a majority. Thus, the "common sense" is so far beneath me, that to the average American, my thoughts and ideas on this subject will have the overall impact of a whispering memory ... long forgotten.
This is a real gun that has been Cerakoted. Would you like to explain how an officer is to react if he sees this? Discuss.
The American people are already "putting up with it" and have been for a while. The police state is a work in progress since before the turn of the 20th century.The beginning of the end for the white Euro-American working class and poor, was the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. The next step in the downward spiral was the Social Security Act of 1935, and the subsequent issuance of Social Security Numbers in 1936. At this point every citizen would thereafter be "branded" by the state. There are other lesser events that have occurred over the years but these two were the most significant until the passage of the Patriot Act in 2001. I would not say that this particular act is on par with the previous two I have mentioned, but it was a significant move toward greater state control over the populace.
Some of the lesser events I have alluded to are laws that are designed to essentially "protect us from ourselves" or enhance the greater good, and public safety. But do not be fooled by my choice of words. These lesser events, acts, or laws have significantly helped to erode the personal freedoms of the average citizen. Here is a short list of some examples:
• seat belt laws
• laws that require insurance on automobiles, especially off road vehicles
• laws prohibiting use of drugs such as marijuana
• laws that prohibit the feeding of the homeless
• vagrancy and trespass laws that essentially make it a crime to be poor
Laws such as these collectively help to transform the human population into a herd of sheep. They serve a two-fold purpose. First of all, they help to condition the human mind into accepting the absolute authority of the state. Over a period of years, the populace begins not to notice the many restrictions placed upon their personal freedoms, and so many begin to feel quite comfortable living in a cage. Secondly, these laws help to generate a considerable amount of revenue for the state; to the tune of millions of dollars every year!
All that has come before, as I have only briefly outlined, has delivered us to where we stand today. Today we are living in a country where the police are above the very law they claim to serve. Today, it is considered acceptable for a police officer to kill an innocent suspect rather than risk being killed himself. Let us be thankful that firefighters don't feel this way! A man who runs into a burning building to save the life of a man, woman, or child can hardly be considered a coward. Each time he responds to a fire he is risking his life. Furthermore, dying in a fire can be a horrible way to die. The Tamir Rice murder is a metaphor for a house on fire. Rather than run into the burning house to save the child, they chose instead to kill the child. Consequently, there was no need to run into the burning house and risk their life. When we understand that in this case the metaphorical house wasn't even on fire; when we understand that they could have taken at least 5 minutes to assess the situation, instead of 2 seconds, we begin to understand what cowards,and what heartless animals these cops really are.
I have judged no one after the fact. I, and many others, have foretold the evil of Ferguson and Cleveland long ago. But many have chosen to bury their head in the sand and ignore reality. It makes perfect sense that a coward would shoot first and ask questions later. It makes perfect sense that a simpleton would mishandle a situation and allow what should have been routine to escalate into murder. It also makes perfect sense that psychopaths, killers, and sadists would find police work attractive. Other than the military, it is the only job that allows you to mistreat, brutalize, rape, and even kill people with relative impunity. Finally I am not quick to judge. My understanding is based on a lifetime of living within this evil American system. My understanding is also based on my years of study that have helped me to understand what came before. Welcome to the real world. http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/column … an_cops-0/
I don't recall I said anything about fairness and freedom for all. Such sentiment is used in these types of cases to elicit sympathy for criminals.
You speak of what we know for sure, but the part about the boy grabbing the toy gun again, is a story told by the officers. I watched the video and the boy was obscured from view after the cops arrived. To my knowledge there is no other camera that verifies the officers account. Apparently, whatever they say, you are willing to believe without corroborating evidence. Ironically, you have accused me of making judgements before all of the facts are known. Yet, you speak as if their version of events is the gospel truth. Let me also note that I have not suggested that the cops should have let the boy pull the supposed weapon, point the supposed weapon, or let any sort of dangerous scenario play out. This is a fiction you have created to bolster your argument.
I have maintained throughout this thread that the police were reckless, and put themselves , and Tamir Rice, in harms way as a result of their stupidity. I have also maintained that the life of a child, or citizen is more important than the life of a cop, or public servant. If after all necessary precautions have been taken, and the cop is still injured or killed, this must be accepted as the cost of doing business. A fireman accepts the dangerous nature of his job, and for him there are no guarantees of safety. Why is a cop any better than a fireman?
You have asked, "How many seconds exactly do you wait? The answer to the question is:" You don't". You don't put yourself in harms way from the start. There are procedures and precautions that help to minimize danger. That's why police officers are supposed to be trained. Furthermore, when we look at the video , there are no innocent children standing around waiting to become victims of a 12 year old playing in the park. No I don't have "access to the mind of the officer " as you have stated. On the contrary I am an intelligent person and would never create a situation that could escalate into the murder of an innocent child. In fact, my IQ prohibits me from becoming a cop in certain jurisdictions because I am too smart.
If the cops had been properly assessing the situation , Tamir Rice would be alive today. What don't you understand here? I do assume the worst because a child is dead and an entire family has been crippled for life. I have no sympathy for the killers who will spend this coming Christmas with their families. I do not know Adolf Hitler or Columbus, but I have the mind to assess the legacy of a tyrant. The legacy here is that someone is dead who was a threat to no one. The legacy here is that in their supposed attempt to protect the public they created a victim. The very facts warrant my outrage. The facts show that these losers were either very stupid, or that they had a blatant disregard for human life. Either one of these is unacceptable. I suspect that anyone who behaves in such a fashion must have sadistic tendencies.
Your very words indicate that you have deferred yourself to the authority of the state. You concern yourself with fairness for the minions of an oppressive system when they have proven that they are cold blooded murderers. There is no question about what they have done. There is no question that they took no time to assess the situation. There is no question that they were reckless. The "why" of a psychopath or sadist will not mitigate the cold blooded murder of a child.
Your mindset is revealed in the words you speak, as well as those unspoken. If you have spoken the truth then you have revealed that you are existing in a state of mental, and physical slavery. You say,
" I can't stand the idea of unbridled authority, especially if it is lacking morality and or lacking a freedom and justice for all." Yet, this type of authority has existed, more or less, for over 500 years on this continent." Where have you been?
There is nothing exaggerated about the evil perpetrated on this continent by the European Invaders. Neither have I exaggerated the evil perpetrated by the United States government against all races of people. You comment that my rhetoric is strong. However, after 500 years, the killing of innocents upon this continent continues. What do you suggest? A kinder gentler approach? Should we patiently wait another 500 years for the killing to stop? There is no "in-between". We either are against evil, or we are for evil. Those who refuse to speak out against this evil are as guilty as those who wallow in it's corruption.
Osiyo! First of all it is a myth that a minority in a racist system can be racist. This is simply not possible. A simpleton might believe such a thing, but we are powerless to convince the mindless as we walk through the wilderness of "Huh?" Racism is not only an individual's dislike for another race, but this dislike must necessarily be institutionalized in the same socio-political system in which said individual is a member of the majority. A minority, on the other hand, may dislike, or even hate a member of the majority. But since the majority does not have the weight of institutionalized racism bearing down upon them as well, it is not possible for them to realize the burden of racism. Thus,we cannot truly define a minorities hatred of the majority as racism, as it could never deliver the proper effect.
Concerning my concept of a separate but equal public school system: As an example, on May 11, 2010 Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed House Bill 2281 that prohibits Mexican American studies in public schools. Here is an excerpt from MLA: http://www.mla.org/ec_tucson
" In December 2011, Judge Lewis Kowal affirmed Huppenthal’s decision, saying that the Mexican American studies program had “one or more classes designed primarily for one ethnic group, promoting racial resentment, and advocating ethnic solidarity” and was thus in violation of state law.
Here we have the decision of a racist judge, upholding a racist bill that was passed in Arizona, and signed by a racist governor. I especially like the "promoting racial resentment" part of the decision. Let me translate: In other words, if we tell the truth about American History; about how the colonialists tortured, raped, murdered and then stole the land and resources from the Indigenous, while teaching them the Ten Commandments, some students might get upset. Instead, we will give them a watered down version of American History that makes the Euro-American look like great pioneers, and benevolent god-fearing people."
Essentially the racist Arizona government declared it illegal to tell children the truth about American History in public schools. But this is only one recent example. Generation after generation of Indigenous, and African children have been denied the chance to learn the truth about America, and their ancestors in the public school system. Since white Euro-Americans continue to refuse to offer Indigenous and African children anything other than a Euro-centric version of the world, I suggested the logical alternative, which is a separate but equal school system. Students could participate on a volunteer basis, and Indigenous and African taxpayers could choose which system to support with their tax dollars.
It should be common knowledge that a majority of people do not study history outside of the public school system. Consequently, citizens of all races grow up with a distorted, and incomplete view of American History. Understanding history is important, as it affects many aspects of the present. For instance, concerning the murder of Tamir Rice, understanding the nature of law enforcement over the last 200+ years enables one to better understand what is happening today. Today we see the beginnings of a police state that could not so easily be seen 30 or 40 years ago, at least not by the white majority. Today, whites are just as likely to be the victims of police brutality as minorities. For example: 2010, Belmont Shores California, police shoot and kill 35 year old Doug Zerby for holding a garden hose that police mistook for a gun.
The public school system has been used as a tool of genocide. The revisionist history, the Euro-centric values, "the melting pot" etc., help to destroy the cultural identity of the Indigenous, and the African. Many applaud those who have attempted to save a species like the whale from extinction, but not many care that an entire race of people will soon become extinct. The flesh and the blood of a people are only superficial aspects, compared to the mind, the spirit, and the cultural identity.
I do not have such a gift that allows me to discern your motivations, or feelings on any matter through cyberspace. But I will attempt to answer you with several other important questions:
Why do birds sing so gay?
And lovers await the break of day?
Why do they fall in love?
Why does the rain fall from up above?
Why do fools fall in love?
Why do they fall in love?
You have asked, " Are you maybe assuming that people like myself (or any ole' American), endorse all of the things that happened to the indigenous people's... ?" To paraphrase Bill Clinton: I guess it depends on how one might define the word "endorse":
If someone stole your car, and while they were stealing your car they murdered someone you love, and then they sold that car to me. How would you feel about me?
Especially after I looked in the trunk of the car and found, to my surprise, your inheritance; a nest egg which consisted of gold and silver, and the deeds to numerous oil wells and mineral deposits.
Especially if I decided to claim it as my own. Especially after I had been informed that the car had been stolen and the original owner had been murdered.
Especially after I shrugged my shoulders and said, " Hey man, I didn't do it". Especially after I said, "Why don't you just get over it?"
Especially after your family had been impoverished, and mistreated as a result of the stolen inheritance, forced to speak a foreign tongue, and pay tribute to the thief that created their poverty.
Especially when you were forced to gain your financial freedom by the rules set by the same murderous thief. How would you feel about me? Would you believe that I endorsed the evil? Would you believe that I was a participant? Would you believe that I endorsed your misfortune?
The United States has claimed that there is no statute of limitations on murder. When an individual is found guilty of certain crimes such as murder, they are forced to forfeit any money, possessions, or real estate that was acquired through the commission of said crime. I agree that this is fair.
If you truly believe in love and forgiveness, I suggest that every rapist, thief and murderer should immediately be granted amnesty and released from prisons throughout the United States. After all, the European is free to live and prosper on a stolen continent while walking on the bones of murdered innocents. Since God has forgiven those who have prospered indirectly from the evil deeds of others, it only seems fair to return the favor. Peace and Love!
If we are "moving ahead" then why are we debating whether or not a cop has the right to murder a 12 year old kid? That's the whole point Kathryn. That's what I'm all about. I was tough love before tough love was cool. Now you can see the vision because we have come full circle. Drink it in, and inebriate yourself with understanding! Evil men are killing innocents just as they did in 1492. Now is our chance to do something about it. We can stop the killing in "our time".
I agree, wilderness, the melting pot needs to be kept hot.
We need individuals who are willing to work together harmoniously. Not schools of fish warring against each other… But come to think of it, not even schools of fish do that!
First of all, you asked a question and I answered your question. Otherwise, I wouldn't have gotten into a discussion about race, at least not to this degree. Concerning my "broad judgements" : My judgements are based on what a particular commentator has posted. I am very well aware of the deception that abounds on the internet, but my thoughts are my own. My arguments, and my analysis, are valid regardless of the authenticity or sincerity of a particular commentator.
Why do you suppose I should think of myself as guilty? What am I guilty of? Being honest? I am a student of History, I have been living in the world; I have been participating in the world; I have lived and died,and then I have lived again. When I hear a dog barking I say, " I hear a dog barking". When I speak of America I only speak the truth. In light of the truth, there is no need for an opinion.
This is the history of America: A group of rapists, murderers, and treasure hunters came to this continent in 1492. After them came a more docile variety of European who was content to ignore the evil of genocide and slavery. This "kinder gentler" European began to build towns and cities. They became the new caretakers of the land that the earlier, more ruthless pioneers had "cleared" or ethnically cleansed to facilitate white settlement. This process of ethnic cleansing was followed by wave upon wave of Europeans. These facts are well documented, and my repeating these facts does not , by default, mean that I am racist, that I hate anyone, or that I place any race above another. In fact , I have no allegiance to any particular race of people, and I would be more accurately described as a misanthrope than a racist. Foremost, I believe in God, I believe in the truth, and yes, I hate evil, and the ignorance that allows it to flourish.
You have commented: "Why does one race, get excused from the same judgements placed on the others?" And you have ended the argument with "Logic would dictate that all races have these types in every line!"
You begin this argument with a fiction based on your assumptions. I have never stated that anyone gets a free lunch when it comes to immorality and injustice. If I were presently living in a nation that had been brutally carved from the blood and bones of another race by Fiji Islanders; a nation presently dominated and ruled by Fiji Islanders, I would be discussing the evil of the "Fiji Islander Invasion", but this is not the case. Furthermore, this is not only about inheriting the sins of the fathers, but more about a nation that has "accepted and justified" the sins of the fathers through the fiction of Manifest Destiny. Neither have I stated that I only care about my own. Here, you deliver yet another fiction based on an erroneous assumption.
The German and the Dutch are as much "my own" as the Tsalagi, and the Shawnee. Like so many others, you have decided that to speak against the evil of the European Invasion is an indictment of the entire European race. From this point, you and others on this thread are seeking to invoke the myth of "reverse racism". Contrary to your opinion, my measurements, and assessment of the European Invasion do not point to me, or the Indigenous of this continent. I have not sat idly by, refusing to speak out against the evil of America, and so my conscience is clear. I have taken the time to challenge the status quo, not only in cyberspace, but also in the real world. Of all of my sins this is one I will not have to answer for. Furthermore, there was no invasion of the European continent by the Indigenous. The French , the British, and the Dutch are not speaking Tsalagi or Nahutl, while referring to Tecumseh as a "founding father". Your entire argument is nothing more than common apologist rhetoric.
I like to use the history of the Jews in Nazi Germany in such arguments, as it clearly illustrates the hypocrisy, ignorance, and inhumanity of many Americans. You have used the common tactic of equating the oppressed with the oppressor. The fact that there most likely have been Jews that committed atrocities prior to WWII; the fact that there were Jews throughout history who may have been morally reprehensible, or even monstrous, hardly justifies the mass murder of European Jews by the Nazis during the war. Such an argument is absurd, yet, you have raised the argument here. Your logic could lead us to the conclusion that the character of a woman who has been raped should be considered when assessing the seriousness of the crime, as well as the appropriate punishment for the rapist. Using the logic you have presented,a woman who has lied, cheated, stolen money, or slept around most of her adult life, is hardly worthy of the same consideration as a bible thumping virgin. Consequently,according to you, the man who rapes the sinful woman is less culpable than the man who rapes a god-fearing virgin. As you should now understand, I have no need to spin your words, or to create a fiction in order to destroy your argument.
My analysis reveals that your weak argument only further illustrates the degree of denial that exists in America today. I have clearly illustrated that the Indigenous are no more responsible for the holocaust of over 100 million at the hands of the European Invaders, as the Orthodox Jews are responsible for the holocaust of over 6 million at the hands of the Nazis. In either case, the victim does not share the guilt of the perpetrator.
Concerning your opening words of wisdom: You claim to know that a man has no choice in 4 things. Your comment is very poetic, and perhaps this is true of your life, but contrary to your belief, I have had all of these choices, and more than once. Your proclivity to make assumptions will only lead you to more confusion. The world will speak to you and tell you all that you are capable of knowing, but you must first believe that the world has the ability to speak. Otherwise, you will only hear the rustling of the wind. Osiyo!
If generations continue upon the same course that was set by criminals, and if these generations, knowing the evil truth of the path that they follow, do nothing to seek a remedy, there can only be one conclusion. When we also consider that these generations have knowingly prospered as a result of their evil predecessors, the situation becomes even more egregious. Just as the great Osceola, I am as much a European as I am Indigenous, but my European ancestry has not blinded me to the truth, nor to my personal responsibility to seek a remedy. I do not love one race and hate the other. I am too intelligent to fall into such a simple trap. Racism is a divisive tool of oppression; an instrument set in motion by Pope Nicholas V in the year 1452. I would never allow myself to willingly become the pawn of an evil system. What I am doing here, any man can do. But many will not speak in favor of humanity because they are selfish cowards who have become fat and addicted to comfort.
What is evil? Evil is not only the deed itself, but it is also the apathy, the acquiescence, and the ignorance that nurtures and perpetuates a world of misery. Just as a man is connected to the past through previous generations, the evil that took root here in 1492 is also connected to the present. You choose to believe that there is no connection , but the laws of nature , as well as the laws of science, have shown that no person, place, or thing creates itself. All that is has only continued and transformed from what has come before.
The killing of Tamir Rice is just one in a series of killings that have happened recently. Here is a very short list:
• March 16th 2014: Albuquerque New Mexico: A homeless man,James Boyd, was murdered by police for illegally camping.
http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/james-boyd/
• June 18th 2014: An Oklahoma City police officer was charged Friday with raping or sexually abusing six women he allegedly threatened to arrest if they did not submit. Officer Daniel Holtzclaw, 27, was charged with two counts of first-degree rape, four counts of sexual battery, four counts of forcible oral sodomy, four counts of indecent exposure, one count of first-degree burglary and one count of stalking.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati … /14830063/
• Diana Showman, a mentally ill woman brandishing a power drill was shot dead by an officer after she called 911 and told San Jose dispatchers she had an Uzi. Diana Showman, 19, had come out of her house, ignored demands to put down the weapon, and was shot once. Showman’s parents criticized the officer’s response, saying that the police needed to be better equip to handle mental health issues.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Pa … 07961.html
• In 2010, Belmont Shores, California police shot and killed Doug Zerby for holding a garden hose that police mistook for a gun. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 … ozzle.html
Interestingly, there is no official government database that reflects how many citizens are killed or raped by the police every year. However, the F.B.I. does keep track of how many police officers are killed each year. Independent organizations have estimated that between 400 and 1000 civilians are killed by the police every year in the United States. We can see here that the "public servant" is obviously considered by the government to be more important than those being served! Can we really imagine that the butler or the maid is ever treated with more respect and consideration than the master? Can we really believe that their needs, their concerns, and their personal safety supercedes that of their master. Historically, this has not been the case. So we must ask ourselves how the police have gone from being the servant, to being the master. We must wonder how a public servant can now commit murder with impunity.
The evil deeds, the apathy, and the acquiescence we see today are directly associated with that which began in 1492, and which has continued unto the present. The very system itself is founded on evil, and so any solutions that do not involve the creation of a new system are nothing more than band aid solutions. This can easily be proven by using an open sewer as an example: Find yourself a volunteer and have him stand waist deep in the filthy sewer water. Stand at the edge of the sewer and throw bars of soap at the man. How many bars of soap will it take to wash him clean? Of course, we can all guess that until the man chooses to step out of the sewer, he will never be able to wash himself clean. Metaphorically speaking, this is what has been happening here in America for over 500 years.
When we step out of the sewer, we step out of the dream and into the real world. It is only from the standpoint of the real world that we can make substantial and lasting changes that will remove the violence that has followed us like a plague, and that permeates our society today. To eradicate this evil, we must begin at 1492, and then move toward the present. My words and concepts may seem strong, and perhaps unreasonable to many, but this is only because I have long ago stepped out of the sewer of materialism and greed. HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW? Perhaps some of you would rather hear a rousing rendition of the old Hank Williams favorite, "Kaw-Liga". I am sure there is a traitor living nearby who would be glad to sing it for you, or any number of Lee Greenwood songs. My state of being is not perfection, but perfection is not necessarily a prerequisite for peace, love and understanding. And after all, "What's so funny 'bout that?"
First of all your comment about Columbus makes no sense at all. Like others on this forum, you have invented a fiction and then attributed it to me. I have made no such statements as you have ascribed to me concerning Columbus. Furthermore, my goal at this time is not to offer any "solutions" as you have mentioned. I have only pointed in the right direction. It would be foolish of me at this time to proceed any further. If the government wants details, then let them set a price and I will consider it.
Your apologist rhetoric completely misses the point of my commentary and analysis. I am completely aware that a world of ignorance and evil existed long before 1492. It is humorous, and also frustrating that you felt the need to highlight the obvious. But your commentary is important as it helps to illustrate the difficulties one must face when attempting to inject a new paradigm into a primitive society. For you to point out that violence and evil have existed throughout history, and throughout all races and cultures is remarkable.
I have suggested that there is a way to mitigate, and possibly eradicate violence and murder throughout the United States in our time. It is the arrival of the European to this continent in 1492 that we must be concerned with, because it is the European legacy that continues to prevail socially and politically. It is the European legacy that we can clearly see is not working for the majority, which includes the majority of working class Euro-Americans. To suggest that the Indigenous who existed at the time of Columbus may have displaced other races or civilizations in the distant past only serves to support my argument: "If we continue down the same path there will be no hope for humanity". Today, unlike in 1492, it is possible for us to eliminate a present and future misery by addressing a past misery, and moving forward from 1492. You have attempted to reduce a serious argument to the superficial level of "My Home Team vs Your Team", which is not uncommon, nor unexpected. Osiyo!
Your assumptions and conclusions are quite remarkable. Now you accuse me of " attempting to sound collegiate". Please let me inform you that I am not impressed with the educational system here in the United States. In spite of such prestigious institutions like Harvard, established in 1636, innocent children are still homeless and dying in the streets, the environment continues to be polluted, women continue to be raped and molested, over 40,000 die annually in traffic fatalities, war has become big business, drug abuse, poverty, and the band played on! What have all of these college graduates been doing since 1636? The current state of the world should have given you a clue that college has little to do with true intelligence, and more to do with making lots of money, which by the way, any drug dealer or pimp is also capable of doing. No, I am not interested in being mistaken for another soldier in an army of educated fools.
What I find most interesting is that you insist on presenting a fiction and then arguing against it. It is apparent that you are providing generic answers without reading my posts. Evil can be likened to a virus or a disease. I have simply provided a location on the timeline; a place in the past where the present evil begins. I fail to see how you have construed this as "wallowing in the past". If a doctor is going after a brain tumor it would make little sense to start with an incision in the buttocks!
Furthermore, when an adoptee discovers their birth mother, and inquires as to what family illnesses might exist, it is not wallowing in the past when she informs her child that there is a history of diabetes in the family. I do not need to explain the benefits of such information.
Today, many are seeking a solution to the problem of police brutality, and violence in general. I have shown you the beginning of an end to this misery. The reason that it is taking the world so long to find a solution is because many people are very arrogant, but not very smart, and this has proven to be a lethal combination. If you can't see how my input has contributed to the discussion that I myself started, then I am at a loss, since I have been quite meticulous, albeit necessarily brief in my commentary. As far as the invite to join you in the 21st century, I think I'll pass, and go back to the future instead. Hafa Adai
The murder of Tamir Rice and thousands of others by police every year in the United States cannot be resolved by voting,town hall meetings, or violent protests. Unfortunately, the solution is far more complex, because it requires a revolution of the mind, and a freeing of the majority from mental slavery. This is the hardest part because the majority are living in an artificial reality, and until that reality is discarded there will be no significant changes.
The United States is based on a corrupt and unjust system that claims to promote freedom and equality, but ironically, it is the antithesis of both. Police brutality, poverty, violence, drug addiction,slavery, and racism are perpetuated by this system. To argue that these same conditions exist throughout the world is meaningless, since nearly the entire world operates through the same capitalist system.
My position seems unreasonable to many in this forum because they have literally been brainwashed and manipulated by the status quo since the time of their birth, just as many generations before them. This is not unusual, as it is well known that during the antebellum, some slaves had grown so accustomed to their servitude that they did not wish to be freed, and would betray anyone who sought to rebel against their "master", or escape. To distinguish the two era's of slavery, I have coined the phrases: "Slave State of the First Order", and "Slave State of the Second Order". Of course we are living in the latter. It would not be practical to attempt to explain the benefits of Anarchism over the current system since such an explanation would fill volumes. Anarchism, and all of it's permutations can no more be reduced to a convenient soundbyte than the Christian Bible, or any other philosophical or religious belief. Suffice it to say that there is a wealth of information available for anyone interested in understanding the truth about "Anarchy vs the so-called "American Dream".
To better understand Anarchist thought, I would suggest reading the entire book "WHAT IS PROPERTY?" (https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/360 ) as well as " Civil Disobedience" by Thoreau (https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search … sobedience ) and "Anarchism and Other Essays" by Emma Goldman ( http://ucblibrary3.berkeley.edu/Goldman … Anarchism/ )
Here are some excerpts from:
WHAT IS PROPERTY?
AN INQUIRY INTO THE PRINCIPLE
OF RIGHT AND OF GOVERNMENT
by P.S. Proudhon
Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (1809 - 1865) is reputed to be the first person to declare himself an anarchist.
Excerpts from : WHAT IS PROPERTY?
... Thus the law, in establishing property, has not been the expression of a psychological fact, the development of a natural law, the application of a moral principle. It has literally CREATED a right outside of its own province. It has realized an abstraction, a metaphor, a fiction; and that without deigning to look at the consequences, without considering the disadvantages, without inquiring whether it was right or wrong.
It has sanctioned selfishness; it has indorsed monstrous pretensions; it has received with favor impious vows, as if it were able to fill up a bottomless pit, and to satiate hell! Blind law; the law of the ignorant man; a law which is not a law; the voice of discord, deceit, and blood! This it is which, continually revived, reinstated, rejuvenated, restored, re-enforced—as the palladium of society—has troubled the consciences of the people, has obscured the minds of the masters, and has induced all the catastrophes which have befallen nations.
This it is which Christianity has condemned, but which its ignorant ministers deify; who have as little desire to study Nature and man, as ability to read their Scriptures...
... Not only does occupation lead to equality, it PREVENTS property. For, since every man, from the fact of his existence, has the right of occupation, and, in order to live, must have material for cultivation on which he may labor; and since, on the other hand, the number of occupants varies continually with the births and deaths,—it follows that the quantity of material which each laborer may claim varies with the number of occupants; consequently, that occupation is always subordinate to population. Finally, that, inasmuch as possession, in right, can never remain fixed, it is impossible, in fact, that it can ever become property.
Every occupant is, then, necessarily a possessor or usufructuary,—a function which excludes proprietorship. Now, this is the right of the usufructuary: he is responsible for the thing entrusted to him; he must use it in conformity with general utility, with a view to its preservation and development; he has no power to transform it, to diminish it, or to change its nature; he cannot so divide the usufruct that another shall perform the labor while he receives the product. In a word, the usufructuary is under the supervision of society, submitted to the condition of labor and the law of equality.
Thus is annihilated the Roman definition of property—THE RIGHT OF USE AND ABUSE—an immorality born of violence, the most monstrous pretension that the civil laws ever sanctioned. Man receives his usufruct from the hands of society, which alone is the permanent possessor. The individual passes away, society is deathless...
Proudhon could not have expressed himself more clearly when he stated concerning property and the law: "... It has literally CREATED a right outside of its own province. It has realized an abstraction, a metaphor, a fiction; and that without deigning to look at the consequences, without considering the disadvantages, without inquiring whether it was right or wrong."
Here we see a common ground between Proudhon's conclusions, the teachings of Jesus, and many Indigenous nations that existed here prior to 1492. The childish treatment of my comments by many on this forum is indicative of why nearly 150 years after Proudhon's death, a majority of Americans continue to cling to a lie, believing that somehow, someday, things will get better in a system that cannot possibly afford to the many when it's very design can only accommodate a privileged few. This is not a matter of race or a clash of cultures. Proudhon was a French politician, I am an artist of mixed race (Euro-Indigenous), Jesus was a Jew, and the Indigenous nations that have existed on this continent for over 10,000 years are as varied and unique as the various European tribes. But in spite of, racial, and cultural differences, and in spite of the passage of time, there is a commonality of thought and understanding.
All of the French, especially the aristocracy did not share Proudhon's views, of course not! Neither have all Indigenous nations shared the same views on ownership and property. But the fact that the world at large has never truly followed the teachings of Jesus, Proudhon, or any number of philosophers, or social architects, does not necessarily render their teachings irrelevant. On the contrary, the fact that we have the luxury of hindsight, and can clearly see that the present system has, and will always accommodate only a privileged few, must lead us to explore a different approach to the maintenance of society; one that is more productive and less adversarial.
Whether or not a majority could ever accept a world that allotted a fair share of land, resources, and wealth to everyman, while denying the greedy motivations of evil men is not the proper, or relevant question. The question that we must resolve is, " How many generations are we willing to forfeit, and sacrifice, for the false security of servitude?"
First of all, it is not my burden for you or anyone else to "take me seriously". Like so many others, you assume that because I am using a common English language, and I am posting in a common internet forum, about common social issues, we both have similar ambitions ,desires, and values; that we are cut from the same cloth. That we are "equals". I assure you we are not. But you have expressed yourself in a manner that betrays a hidden motive. For instance, you have ascribed to me that which I do not own! You say,
" You are not omniscient, or all knowing. This is why your ideas and mine need (and ought to be, all) critiqued, and hard."
Your preceding comment is totally absurd, and serves no purpose other than slander. The difference between my comments and yours is that I assess the character and the understanding of an individual, or group based on what has been stated, believed, and practiced by said individual or group. It is not merely my opinion, educated or otherwise, that the United States is essentially a slave state. No more than it is my opinion that the police murder and rape thousands of citizens each year. These are facts! Simply because you have not studied certain issues and are not aware of the facts does not reduce these facts to the level of a personal opinion. It is not my burden to convince you that you are a slave when the chains that bind the poor and working class are clearly visible to anyone who cares to look.
I have not stated or even implied that I am "all knowing", and such slander can only be explained as follows:
1.You are purposely being slanderous to entertain yourself.
2.You fear that you have been made a fool of by the government, and so it is easier to attack and slander the messenger.
3.There is an issue of comprehension
4.There is an issue of social or racial bias.
5.It is difficult for you to accept a higher authority.
Whatever your reasons for slander, although your assumptions may provide you with some personal satisfaction, they will not break the chains that have bound the common man. Even someone who has never studied logic, or philosophy, or religion , or science,or art for an entire lifetime, understands what it means when someone is lying dead in the street! The ideas and the society that you apparently defend have provided, over the last 200 years, empirical evidence that clearly substantiates my claims. On the other hand,you challenge my position but you have no such empirical evidence to attack the validity of my arguments. Based on your commentary, it appears that you have accepted that it is natural and proper to be born a slave, and to live and die in servitude to a ruling elite; a ruling elite that stands behind the curtain and actually controls and manipulates the wealthy 1% that sit above the rest of humanity.
Finally, your opening statement challenges the source of my knowledge and understanding. Such statements are, to say the least, arrogant. But most importantly, your opening statement further substantiates my claim that a majority of Americans have been brainwashed. Your statement reveals that you cannot conceive of an authority; a philosopher, seer, holy man, extraterrestrial, or emissary of God who would ever speak directly to you in an online forum. It appears that you will only accept what has been sanctioned and disseminated publicly by the government through various media, or television programs such as "Oprah", "Nancy Grace", or "CNN".
But it should be clearly understood that if the simian can learn to speak this language, and to effectively communicate; write essays, treatises,books, poetry, and song, it is not so far fetched that a superior entity, or the humble emissary, would utilize the English language as well. There are humans of great conscience who go among other species in an attempt to keep them from harm, or save them from extinction. There are also entities and humans who serve the human race in the same fashion. I am not here to win a popularity contest, or to gain "followers". There is too much at stake to concern myself with such pedestrian concerns. In the months and years to come, there will be more rapes and murders committed by the police, while millions continue to suffer under the yoke of "freedom". Tamir Rice is the image of God that has been defiled and cast aside. He deserves more than 15 minutes of sympathy and soundbytes.
I have many talents, it is true. I am also physically attractive, and so I have known and enjoyed many beautiful women, as well as those who might be considered quite ugly, since I respect all of God's creation. But for some things, you don't need a special talent in order to understand. Sometimes you just need to read, look around, and experience for yourself.
John Brown was ahead of his time, yet he was ridiculed and hanged by the neck until he was dead. Jesus was said to be the son of God, yet he was tortured, spat upon, and crucified. I do not expect to be treated any better than those far above my station, nor do I expect nothing less than the ridicule that you and others here have delivered.
Here in the United States, the families and the victims of those who are raped, murdered, and abused by the police every year, know that I speak the truth, because they have already received their proof: empirical evidence that came in a box , a funeral urn, or an indelible memory of injustice and humility.
First of all it is your reading comprehension that must be called into question. I haven't distanced myself from any quotes I made about 1492, or the miscreant treasure hunters, rapists, and murderers who came with, and after Columbus. It is you that continue to insist in all or nothing. I have never claimed any one group or race as being perfect , or above reproach. I do not harbor such childish notions as many have represented here.
You comment that capitalism works because you have chosen to ignore the evil of the inner cities that capitalism has created. You have chosen to ignore that Americans who have lived in the suburbs, paid taxes, and worked hard all of their lives are foreclosed and thrown out into the streets. You have chosen to ignore the evil of a "for profit" prison system; the evil of the Imperialist policies of the United States that destroyed the Chagossians of Diego Gracia; the killing of Palestinian children with American tax dollars through an evil alliance with a Zionist State that even Orthodox Jews have condemned. You have chosen to ignore the reality of over 50,000 homeless veterans sleeping on the streets. You say capitalism works because you have chosen to ignore the genocide of 100 million innocents, and an institution of slavery that provided it's foundation. However, you are correct in saying that capitalism is not supposed to be a cure, for capitalism is most certainly the "disease"!
You commented: " I can't help but think that we would see some countries employ what you are suggesting and showing how it could work, if it could be done." Huh? Are you serious? There are other examples of why anarchy is not prevalent throughout the world, but I will give you one:
The teachings of Jesus are in many ways similar to Anarchist ideology. In spite of whether Jesus was real or imaginary, the teachings of Jesus are sound. Yet, there are few countries throughout the world where a majority have ever truly practiced Christianity. Even in the United States, which claims to be a nation founded on Christian principles, the historical record reveals that the teachings of Jesus were never taken very seriously here in the United States. These teachings have not become universally accepted because a majority made up of selfish, greedy, materialistic people, could not realize their true nature in a Christian society. Jesus spoke of the "narrow road", and that it would be"easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter into heaven!" Here we can substitute "American" for "rich man".
Finally, you commented," I also think that with the right ideas, you could enact a great deal of good, help promote it. " It is my hope that your comment was meant to be condescending. Otherwise, I am forced to believe that you are serious. You know nothing of my life; what I am doing, or what I have already accomplished. There are a lot of supposed "do-gooders" who speak politely and utilize the proper social etiquette for any, and all occasions. But still, the world continues to collapse around us as they chase their prostitutes, do their backroom deals, cultivate war, and continue to steal the inheritance of the American people. Of all the sophisticated electronic technology available today that can be used by the state as tools of oppression, some of the most effective weapons used by the state against the common man are still the friendly smile, the handshake, and a kind word. I dare not be mistaken for that which I abhor.
I have often said I hate evil, and all that it entails. It is you who have falsely accused that , " I Hate America". Such a fiction is commonly used to create resentment, and to switch the focus of a conversation. This is a common diversionary tactic. Of course, I am not accusing you of being a racist Kathryn, since I would never be so presumptuous. However, it is known that racists have commonly resorted to such tactics as shifting the blame to the social activist, or the citizen who stands against a particular evil, and then painting them down as the devil.
Al Sharpton , a man of African descent, has always been a popular target of racists, especially after the famous Tawana Brawley incident in which a New York State grand jury claimed that Brawley made up the entire story of being gang raped . However, Brawley and her family still maintain that the incident actually happened. The problem with this case was that the United States courts have historically been so biased against people of African descent, as well as female rape victims in general, that even if the grand jury was right, this was still a classic case of "crying wolf". For so many years the African community has been so conditioned to injustice, it was difficult for many to imagine that this wasn't simply more of the same. Many have used this incident as a means of destroying Sharpton's credibility; even accusing Sharpton of being a racist himself, a "race baiter" or an opportunist.
On the other hand, Harry Truman, a man of European descent, ordered the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki . On August 6, 1945, 70,000 Japanese died immediately from the explosion, and another 70,000 died from radiation within five years. Three days later 90,000 died in Nagasaki. Some experts have agreed that these are conservative numbers. The casualties were primarily civilian, the vast majority women and children. Except from a racist ,and a barbaric point of view, Truman and his unholy cabal are nothing less than war criminals. To decide the outcome of a war that many historians agree would have soon ended anyway, Truman ordered the murder of over 230,000 human beings. It is well understood that this crime against humanity was committed as much to chasten Russia, and the perceived communist threat, as to end the war with Japan.
This comparison is relevant because it illustrates the mindset of the American mainstream. A mindset that has it's roots in the 15th century; a mindset which holds that the ends justifies the means, whatever the cost in human life. In other words: "Manifest Destiny". It is ironic that Al Sharpton, a black civil rights activist, who may or may not have had a lapse in judgement, which may have temporarily tarnished the "reputations" of several upstanding citizens, is considered to be more hated by the conservative mainstream than a mass murderer who caused the needless deaths of nearly a quarter of a million human beings! I am not surprised that there are those on this thread that persist in focusing on my irreverence toward the"American Dream", instead of the killing of innocent children by the police. All throughout the historical record, as I have briefly illustrated in this thread, a majority of American's have shown a blatant disregard for human life.
It follows that if a single individual can be diagnosed as a psychopath, that an entire nation could also be defined in the same fashion. Here, I am breaking new ground, as there is no such term to designate such a condition. Although the familiar term "group psychosis" may be used, I suggest a more specific term that can designate this condition at a national level. I have coined the term "MASSPATRIOPSYCHOSIS". I believe that this term is useful because patriotic fervor has been known to lead to the commission of many atrocities throughout the historical record. If we look at the definition of psychosis, we can see that the current definition can easily be applied at a national level; especially when we consider that each part of the following definition not only applies to the American mainstream in 1945, but to the general mindset of Americans for the last 500 years.
• a person with a psychopathic personality, which manifests as amoral and antisocial behavior ( Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Diego Garcia etc.)
• lack of ability to love or establish meaningful personal relationships ( Genocide of 100 million Indigenous)
• extreme egocentricity (white supremacy)
• failure to learn from experience ( War after War after War etc.)
Contrary to the simplistic interpretation that has been offered by some concerning my previous posts. My analysis is not meant to be derogatory in the least; no more than the intention of a dentist is to cause excruciating physical pain. Sometimes, in this topsy turvey world we live in, it is the the best remedy that may sometines hurt the most.
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Here is the whole quote, sed-me, in case you missed it:
"I have many talents, it is true. I am also physically attractive, and so I have known and enjoyed many beautiful women, as well as those who might be considered quite ugly, since I respect all of God's creation." I was wrong about the tall part. I guess my imagination went a little wild.
Osiyo!
Apparently, there are individuals on this thread who seem to require that every statement I make concerning right and wrong, or good vs evil, must have a yin attached to the yang. Aren't most of us adults here? Hubpages, I assumed, was a site primarily designed to attract writers. I also assumed that writers would have a certain amount of training, or that they at least completed Jr. High. Many of the comments I have received lead me to believe that I have assumed wrong. If I comment that "Evil Europeans Invaded This Continent", but don't follow with "But All Europeans Weren't Bad People", then someone will invariably accuse me of saying "All Europeans Are Bad People". In the same manner, if I say " Killer Cops Murdered A 12 Year Old Kid", but don't follow with, " But All Cops Aren't Bad People" someone will invariably accuse me of saying that all cops are bad people. SERIOUSLY FOLKS! Do I really need to hold your hand and say, "Everything's gonna be alright Lenny, just look straight ahead while I stand behind and tell you about the rabbits?" To clarify my position for those of you who need extra attention:
1. I do not hate white people,my mother was white, my best friend is white, most of my girlfriends have been white. (By default, this also means I don't hate Europeans)
2. I don't hate everybody. I only hate evil liars,murders, rapists, and thieves, and all of the stupid people that believe in them, which most likely constitutes over 85% of the total world population. Did I leave anybody out?
3. I don't hate all cops. I only hate the ones who kill innocent people. Cops are very important: We need them to protect us from the other 85%.
Here are some excerpts from a book originally published in 1857, entitled: "SLAVERY ORDAINED OF GOD" by the Rev.Fred A. Ross who was pastor of the Presbyterian Church, Huntsville Alabama.
These particular excerpts were taken from a speech that Ross gave in Buffalo New York,May,1853.This book is an excellent example of American apologist rhetoric of the 19th century. Here Ross justifies southern slavery and the subjugation of the wife by the husband through the "word of God". During his speech he reminds the audience on more than one occasion, the moral, and intellectual superiority of the European over the African.
Although I have not read the entire book, I am sure that if he mentions the "Indian Removal Act of 1830", which legalized the theft of 20 million acres for white settlement, that he has a good reason why God approved of this criminal act as well. This apologist rhetoric reminds me of some of the comments made on this thread by those who are more concerned with my choice of words, and the "feelings" and reputation of the murderous Cleveland police officers, than the 12 year old victim Tamir Rice and his family. When I compare these excerpts with many of the derogatory comments and justifications I have received on this thread, I am reminded of the old Carpenters song "Yesterday Once More . The entire book can be read and downloaded here: http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=m … =1up;seq=1
"...Let us then, North and South, bring our minds to comprehend two ideas, and submit to their irresistible power. Let the Northern philanthropist learn from the Bible that the relation of master and slave is not sin per se. Let him learn that God says nowhere it is sin. Let him learn that sin is the transgression of the law; and where there is no law there is no sin, and that the Golden Rule may exist in the relations of slavery. Let him learn that slavery is simply an evil in certain circumstances. Let him learn that equality is only the highest form of social life; that subjection to authority, even slavery, may, in given conditions, be for a time better than freedom to,the slave of any complexion. Let him learn that slavery, like all evils, has its corresponding and greater good ; that the Southern slave, though degraded compared with his master, is elevated and ennobled compared with his brethren in Africa..."
"...Man fell and was cursed. The law of the control of the superior over the inferior is now to begin, and is to go on in the depraved conditions of the fallen and cursed race. And, FIRST, God said to the woman, “Thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall ‘rule over thee.” There,in that law, is the beginning of government ordained of God. There is the beginning of the rule of the superior over the inferior, bound to obey. There, in the family of Adam, is the germ of the rule in the tribe,--the state. Adam, in his right, from God, to rule over his wife and his children, had all the authority afterwards expanded in the patriarch and the king..."
"...Why, sir, the wife everywhere, except where Christianity has given her elevation, is the slave. And, sir, I say, without fear of saying too strongly, that for every sigh, every groan, every tear, every agony of stripe or death, which has gone up to God from the relation of master and slave, there have been more sighs, more groans, more tears, and more agony in the rule of the husband over the wife. Sir, I have admitted, and do again admit, without qualification, that every fact in Uncle Tom’s Cabin has occurred in the South. But, in reply, I say deliberately, what one of your first men told me, that he who will make the horrid examination will discover in New York City, in any number of years past, more cruelty from husband to wife, parent to child, than in all the South from master to slave in the same time. I dare the investigation..."
"...Do you say, The slave is held to involuntary service? So is the wife. Her relation to her husband, in the immense majority of cases, is made for her, and not by her. And when she makes it for herself, how often, and how soon, does it become involuntary ! How often, and how soon, would she throw off the yoke if she could!..."
"... Nevertheless, he has authority, from God, to rule over you (the wife). You are under service
to him. You are bound to obey him in all things. Your service is very, very, very often involuntary from the first, and, if voluntary at first, becomes hopeless necessity afterwards..."
"...Why, sir, if a man can hold three slaves, with a right heart and the approbation of God, he may hold thirty,three hundred, three thousand, or thirty thousand. It is a mere question of heart, and capacity to govern.The Emperor of Russia holds sixty millions of slaves: and is there a man in this house so much of a fool as to say that God regards the Emperor of Russia a sinner because he is the master of sixty millions of slaves? Sir, that Emperor has certainly a high and awful responsibility upon him. But, if he is good as he is great, he is a god of benevolence on earth.And so is every Southern master. His obligation is high, and great, and glorious. It is the same obligation, in kind, he is under to his wife and children, and in some respects immensely higher...
INSULT
"An insult is an expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful. Insults (sometimes called "cracks" "remarks" or one-liners) may be intentional or accidental. An insult may be factual, but at the same time pejorative, such as the word "inbred".
"speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse."
"abuse, be rude to, slight, disparage, discredit, libel, slander, malign, defame, denigrate, cast aspersions on, call someone names, put someone down; offend, affront, hurt, humiliate, wound; badmouth, dis; derogate, calumniate; asperse. ANTONYMS compliment."
Online definitions are good enough for that word.
<"Jesus spoke of the "narrow road", and that it would be"easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter into heaven!" Here we can substitute "American" for "rich man".">
<"The problem here is that no one wants to admit that the United States is, and always has been on par with Nazi Germany.">
Thanks.
How can we not take these statements personally? I ask incredulously!
...and now you say,
<"I also assumed that writers would have a certain amount of training, or that they at least completed Jr. High.">
Here is a boundary for those who don't want to offend others,
No insults.
Nothing, I said should be taken as an insult, as I did not single anyone out. I live in America, and so technically I would be considered by a foreigner to be an American also. If a foreigner said that Americans were subsidizing the killing of Palestinian children I would have to agree, as I am aware that since 1962, American military aid to Israel has amounted to nearly $100 billion.
One can hardly believe that all that money has been used to buy coffee and donuts for the troops. The money doesn't just fall out of the sky. The money that is used to buy bombs, bullets, rockets, and land mines comes from U.S. taxpayers. And by the way, for those who have suggested that I am stuck in 1492: Ask a Palestinian if it feels like 1492 when the bombs begin to fall , and afterwards they bury their children. No I would not be offended by such a statement, and neither would many Orthodox Jews who are adamantly opposed to Zionism. Read here: http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/opposition.cfm
What are you suggesting Kathryn? Censorship?
American Freedom 
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